QUESTION
LIST #14:
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A-Millenialism.
What is it, and is it Biblical?
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Was
the holocaust of the Jews in WWII
greatly over- exaggerated?
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Was
the Mt. St. Helens eruption really a sign?
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Which
day is the true Sabbath, and what of it?
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Why
were women specifically warned to have the veil of Christ over them?
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Do
the Scriptures speak of Predestination?
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Question
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Do the
Scriptures speak of Predestination?
Sally Writes:
Dear Nick,
What
do you read in the Scriptures regarding Predestination? I
personally read that Jesus came to save all, not just the selected ones.
Thank you
Sally
Answer:
Hi
Sally:
That certain were chosen for
'certain' things is unmistakable in the Scriptures. Below is just a
couple of Scriptures that definitely show that 'certain' were chosen
(predestined) for certain things (fates). I wont supply Old
Testament Scriptures as I feel that we can all agree that Israel was God's
chosen there.
Jude
1:4-5
4 For there are certain men
[not
all men] crept
in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this
condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into
lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus
Christ.
5 I will therefore put you in remembrance,
though ye once knew this ['once
knew this?' They (not all) knew it from before (before this eath
age)],
how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt,
afterward destroyed them that believed not. (KJV)
Rev
17:14
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb
shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and
they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. [not
everybody, He is speaking of those WITH Him]
(KJV)
John
15:16
16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen
you, and ordained you, that ye should go
and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain:
that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he
may give it you. [not
everybody, He is speaking of the Disciples (and by extension, the Elect
of the latter times)] (KJV)
I must hasten to add that since Christ's work on the cross, all can be
adopted into eternal life through faith in Christ Jesus. However,
'certain' have been chosen, pre-selected by God, not to be more loved of
God but to do a certain task in the end times in fulfillment of Scripture.
These are called the Elect of
God. So then, that leads to natural question: Who are the Elect?
Well, every single denominational group claims to be the Elect.
The Catholics call themselves the one true Church, the Rapturists
call themselves the saved 'saints,' the Mormons believe themselves to be
the chosen of God, many cults believe themselves to be a special group of
God's Elect. So why should I add to this confusion with an answer?
other to say that God's Elect are those who know the truth about the
identity of the antichrist in the final times (our generation).
But the main point is that while God's plan and prophecies MUST be
fulfilled as prophesied, for
"scripture cannot be broken" (John 10:35),
and the whole world shall worship the antichrist as it is written:
Rev
13:8
8 And all that dwell upon the earth
shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of
the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. (KJV)
Only God's Elect (by His grace and purpose) shall resist the antichrist.
That is not to say that all who UNWITTINGLY worship the wrong Christ
are damned, for there is a certain degree of innocence in ignorance.
And we are not fated on an individual level to be deceived, but many
do not study to their own undoing. Nobody is born damned, they
become that way by their own free will actions.
Yes, Christ's blood is able to
save all, but not all shall be saved. There are qualifiers with all
of God's promises:
John
3:15-18
15 That whosoever believeth in him
should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only
begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not
perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn
the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not
condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he
hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (KJV)
You
might enjoy our work When
was The beginning?, also the Companion Bible appendix on our site: The
Mystery
God bless!
Nick
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Question
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Why were women
specifically warned to have the veil of Christ over them?
Mel Writes:
Hello I was reading your site on the fallen angels, and wanted to know
more about the use of the word hair verses veil. I was wondering because
I was once told that women should keep their heads covered at all times
to avoid being temped by satan's angels. Is that what this particular
verse means in the bible and what exactly is the veil? Please explain I
am very interested.
I wanted also to comment that I like your website and will return to
learn more soon. I have been reading my Bible with out help from a
(church/preacher) because I have found that most are corrupt in their
own ways and would rather learn on my own. Thank you so much for the
information. sincerely, Mel
Answer:
Hello Mel:
You heard correctly, a woman is
to be covered with the veil in the end-times. That veil is Christ.
‘Hair' is used symbolically for the covering of the head, for the
veil (see below Scripture). The reason that she should
be covered with Christ (by Christ Jesus) is because the fallen angels are
coming back. Jesus Himself warned as much:
Luke
17:26-30
26 And as it was in the days of Noe [Noah
in the Greek],
so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they
were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the
ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they
did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it
rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the
Son of man is revealed [at
the Second Advent].
(KJV)
Who was given in marriage and to whom were they given? Flesh women
were seduced by the fallen angels and the fruit of that union was the
Giants, which Noah's Flood was sent to destroy. Below is the
incident that Christ was referring to, and which shall again transpire in
the end times (the Tribulation):
Gen
6:2-8
2 That the sons of God [the
fallen angels] saw
the daughters of men [flesh
women]
that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they
chose.
3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive
with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred
and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in
those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto
the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the
same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in
the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was
only evil continually.
6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the
earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have
created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the
creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I
have made them.
8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. (KJV)
Below we shall examine the Scripture in question, observe that the
"hair," in a spiritual sense, is the covering, the veil. A
woman is to have that covering in the end times to protect her from the
‘advances' (sexual) of the fallen angels who come back here with satan
(antichrist) in the end-time (Rev 12:9). And what it means where it
says that it is a shame if the man has to have the ‘hair' (covering) to
protect him from the fallen angels, is that if he needs this it is
something perverted going on (homosexual), because the fallen angels are
male (there is no female form in spiritual bodies [which incidentally,
is further witness to the fact that the so-called Marian sightings (Fatima
etc.) are in reality, demonic apparitions (2nd Cor 11:14-15)]).
Also, in the above Scripture
(the first one) in Luke 17:28-29, you notice that Sodom was mentioned in
context with the fallen angels of Gen chapter six. It is my belief
that there was another irruption of the fallen angels in Sodom, though I
be hard pressed to fully document it. We know that there was another
irruption of the fallen angels in David's time, for the Goliath was a
giant (the offspring of a union between angelic beings and human women).
There are others mentioned in other places in the old Testament as
well. "There
were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that,
when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare
children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of
renown. (Gen 6:4)
But anyway, below is our Scripture in question. I have supplied
certain definitions from key words in the Scripture. These
definitions are from the time trusted Strong's
Exhaustive Concordance, a necessary tool for the English-only
(non-Greek or Hebrew) language speaking Bible student. But be
careful with free Internet versions of the Strong's, there are many
spurious versions out there that are not real Strong's Concordances:
1
Cor 11:10-15
10 For this cause ought the woman to have power
on her head because of the angels.
11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman,
neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man
also by the woman; but all things of God.
13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray
unto God uncovered?
14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a
man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to
her: for her hair is given her for a covering. (KJV)
Strong's
definitions from above:
power:
Greek word # 1849 exousia (ex-oo-see'-ah); from 1832
(in the sense of ability); privilege, i.e. (subjectively) force,
capacity, competency, freedom, or (objectively) mastery (concretely,
magistrate, superhuman, potentate, token of control), delegated
influence: KJV-- authority, jurisdiction, liberty, power, right,
strength.
uncovered:
Greek word #177 akatakaluptos (ak-at-ak-al'-oop-tos);
from 1 (as a negative particle) and a derivative of a compound of
2596 and 2572; unveiled: KJV-- uncovered.
shame:
Greek word #819 atimia (at-ee-mee'-ah); from 820;
infamy, i.e. (subjectively) comparative indignity, (objectively) disgrace:
KJV-- dishonour, reproach, shame, vile.
covering:
Greek word #4018 peribolaion (per-ib-ol'-ah-yon); neuter
of a presumed derivative of 4016; something thrown around one, i.e. a mantle,
veil: KJV-- covering, vesture.
Christ
is our veil:
Heb
10:19-20
19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into
the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated
for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
(KJV)
Does
that help?
God bless!
Nick
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Which day
is the true Sabbath, and what of it?
Pam Asks:
Do you have an article on
which day is the true Sabbath? I am very confused about this.
Thank You,
Pam
Answer:
Hi
Pam:
The Sabbath day is the seventh day. God worked six days and
rested the seventh. The seventh day is our Saturday (which is the
modern day Jew's Sabbath Day - from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday.
The Hebrew day begins at sundown the day prior). Over
time, the Sabbath became to be observed by Christians on the first day of
the week (our Sunday).
But all the wrangling over
which day is the true Sabbath Day is moot, for Christ became our Sabbath
(our rest), our Passover, our Circumcision (Rom 2:29) and the one time
offering for our sin. And even Jesus did many of His works on the
Sabbath Day (which got Him in much 'trouble' with the Jews):
Matt
12:1-8
1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day
through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck
the ears of corn, and to eat.
2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold,
thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.
3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David
did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat
the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them
which were with him, but only for the priests?
5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the
sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are
blameless?
6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one
greater than the temple.
7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, ["]
I
will have
[desire] mercy,
and not sacrifice ["]
[(quote
from Hos 6:6. see below)],
ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath
day. (KJV)
Hosea 6:6
6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the
knowledge of God more than burnt offerings. (KJV)
After the Gospels (which were prior to Christ's fulfilling), the only
mention of Sabbath is regarding the Jews that they (Disciples) were trying
to convert to Christianity. The Apostles did not teach that
observing the day of rest (the Sabbath) was necessary to salvation, quite
the contrary:
Col
2:8-17
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and
vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the
world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead
bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of
all principality and power:
11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the
circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body
of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein
also ye are risen with him through the faith of the
operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the
uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him,
having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances
that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the
way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he
made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in
meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or
of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but
the body is of Christ. (KJV)
Acts 15:5-31
5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the
Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise
them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
6 And the apostles and elders came together for to
consider of this matter.
7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose
up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while
ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear
the word of the gospel, and believe.
8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them
witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying
their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke
upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we
were able to bear?
11 But we believe that through the grace of the
Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave
audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God
had wrought among the Gentiles by them.
13 And after they had held their peace, James
answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me:
14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit
the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it
is written,
16 After this I will return, and will build again the
tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the
ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord,
and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who
doeth all these things.
18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning
of the world.
19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not
them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
20 But that we write unto them, that they
abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things
strangled, and from blood.
21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that
preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
22 Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the
whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with
Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men
among the brethren:
23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner;
The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren
which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:
24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went
out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying,
Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such
commandment:
25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one
accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of
our Lord Jesus Christ.
27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall
also tell you the same things by mouth.
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us,
to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols,
and from blood, and from things strangled, and from
fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well.
Fare ye well.
30 So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch:
and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the
epistle:
31 Which when they had read, they rejoiced for the
consolation. (KJV)
In
addition to Sabbath, and Circumcision which Christ fulfilled (circumcision
is now of the heart and includes women - Rom 2:29), Christ became our
Passover as well:
1
Cor 5:6-8
6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little
leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a
new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover
is sacrificed for us:
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old
leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the
unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. (KJV)
Below
is an article from the International Standard Bible Encylopaedia
relating
to observing the first day of the week (Sunday) or the seventh day of the
week (Saturday) as the Sabbath Day:
SABBATH
2. What History Says about the Sabbath: (1)
Josephus.-- This summary of history must necessarily be brief, and it
will be impossible, for lack of space, to quote authorities. From the
testimony of Josephus it is clear that the Jews, as a nation,
continued to observe the seventh-day Sabbath until their overthrow,
when Jerusalem was captured by Titus, 70 AD. As colonies, and
individuals, scattered over the face of the earth, the Jews have
preserved a knowledge of the original Sabbath, and the definite day,
until the present time. They constitute a living testimony for the
benefit of all who desire to know the truth of this matter.
(2) Church history.-- According to church history,
the seventh-day Sabbath was observed by the early church, and no other
day was observed as a Sabbath during the first two or three centuries
(see Hastings, Dictionary of the Bible, IV, 322 b).
In the oft-repeated letter of Pliny, the Roman governor of Bithynia,
to the emperor Trajan, written about 112 AD, there occurs the
expression, "a certain stated day," which is usually assumed
to mean Sunday. With reference to this matter W.B. Taylor, in
Historical Commentaries, chapter i, section 47, makes the following
statement: "As the Sabbath day appears to have been quite
as commonly observed at this date as the sun's day (if not even more
so), it is just as probable that this `stated day' referred to by
Pliny was the 7th day as that it was the 1st day; though the latter is
generally taken for granted." "Sunday was distinguished as a
day of joy by the circumstances that men did not fast upon it, and
that they prayed standing up and not kneeling, as Christ had now been
raised from the dead. The festival of Sunday, like all other
festivals, was always only a human ordinance, and it was far from the
intentions of the apostles to establish a divine command in this
respect, far from them, and from the early apostolic church, to
transfer the laws of the Sabbath to Sunday. Perhaps at the end of the
2nd century, a false application of this kind had begun to take place;
for men appear by that time to have considered laboring on Sunday as a
sin" (Tertullian De Orat., c. 23). This quotation is taken from
Rose's Neander, London, 1831, I, 33 f, and is the correct translation
from Neander's first German edition, Hamburg, 1826, I, pt. 2, p. 339.
Neander has in his 2nd edition, 1842, omitted the second sentence, in
which he expressly stated that Sunday was only a human ordinance, but
he has added nothing to the contrary. "The Christians in the
ancient church very soon distinguished the first day of the week,
Sunday; however, not as a Sabbath, but as an assembly day
of the church, to study the Word of God together and to celebrate the
ordinances one with another: without a shadow of doubt this took
place as early as the first part of the 2nd century"
(Geschichte des Sonntags, 60).
Gradually, however, the first day of the week came
into prominence as an added day, but finally by civil and
ecclesiastical authority as a required observance. The first
legislation on this subject was the famous law of Constantine, enacted
321 AD. The acts of various councils during the 4th and 5th centuries
established the observance of the first day of the week by
ecclesiastical authority, and in the great apostasy which followed,
the rival day obtained the ascendancy.
During the centuries which followed, however, there were always
witnesses for the true Sabbath, although under great persecution. And
thus in various lands, the knowledge of the true Sabbath has been
preserved. -- International
Standard Bible Encylopaedia, Electronic Database Copyright (C)
1996 by Biblesoft.
Below
is the original Commandment to keep the Sabbath Day (pre Christ):
Exod
31:15-18
15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath
of rest,
holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall
surely be put to death.
16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe
the sabbath
throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in
six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he
rested, and was refreshed.
18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him
upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with
the finger of God. (KJV)
In
the above Scripture we see that Hebrew word for rest
is synonymous with Sabbath:
rest:
Hebrew word #7677 shabbathown (shab-baw-thone'); from
7676;
a sabbatism or special holiday: KJV-- rest, sabbath.
sabbath:
Hebrew word #7676
shabbath (shab-bawth'); intensive from
7673; intermission, i.e (specifically) the Sabbath:
KJV-- (+every) sabbath.
Hebrew
word #7673
shabath (shaw-bath'); a primitive root; to repose, i.e.
desist from exertion; used in many implied relations (causative,
figurative or specific): KJV-- (cause to, let, make to) cease,
celebrate, cause (make) to fail, keep (sabbath), suffer to be
lacking, leave, put away (down), (make to) rest, rid, still, take
away.
Christ became that rest, He became our Sabbath, He did not
void the Old Testament Scriptures (Mat 5:17), but rather, He fulfilled
them (Heb 10:7; Psm 40:7), they were written of Him "Then
said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do
thy will, O God." (Heb 10:7).
The below Scripture sums it up quite nicely regarding Christ becoming our
Sabbath (after His work on the cross):
Heb
4:1-11
1 Let us therefore fear
[revere, be in awe],
lest, a promise [covenant,
divine promise of God]
being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should
seem to come short of it.
2 For unto us [Christians,
the new covenant (New Testament)]
was the gospel preached, as well as unto them [those
under the Old Testament covenant]:
but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in
them that heard it. [it
did not require faith to satisfy the Old Testament covenant, only
obedience (for they had seen and heard, and when you see something it
isn't faith that you believe it, for you were convinced by seeing and
hearing, not by believing), but the New Testament requires faith in
Jesus Christ, whom we have not seen but yet whom we believe upon]
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest,
as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into
my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of
the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And
God did rest the seventh day from all his works. [Gen
2:2]
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
[Psalm 95:7-11]
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they [Old
Testament]
to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day,
after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his
voice, harden not your hearts. [Psalm
95:7-8]
8 For if Jesus had given them [in
David's time] rest,
then would he not afterward have spoken of another day [this
day].
9 There remaineth therefore a rest
to the people of God.
[the
rest in Jesus]
10 For he [any
person] that
is entered into his rest
[Jesus's],
he also hath ceased from his [any
person's] own
works, as God did from his.
11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest [Jesus
Christ (Mat 11:28)],
lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
[we are saved, and rest, in faith upon Christ Jesus - He became our
rest, He is the fulfillment of the Sabbath as He is also the fulfillment
of all of the promises of God towards us]
(KJV)
rest
: Greek word #4520 sabbatismos (sab-bat-is-mos');
from a derivative of 4521; a "sabbatism", i.e.
(figuratively) the repose of Christianity (as a type of
heaven): KJV-- rest.
God
bless!
Nick
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Question
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Was the Mt. St. Helens
eruption really a sign?
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Figure of a
face (Elijah?) in the pillar of smoke from the May 18, 1980 Mt. St.
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Shanoa Writes:
Nick I am still working on
the Mt St. Helen thing. [Speaking of a certain cassette tape
about the significance of the eruption according to end time prophecy of
signs and wonders] This tape was done in 1985. ...It has
had some fascinating things on it. What I want to know if you do
know is at the end of the tape it talks about the time of the eruption
8:32. They were about to explain the significance of this when the
tape cut off. Do you know what it means???
May the Lord Bless and Keep
You............Shanoa
Answer:
Hi, I had heard
the tape. I don't place as much importance in the Mt. St. Helens
eruption as some apparently did. Although the face in the pillar of
smoke certainly is interesting. But I don't know how we can say that
it is the face of Elijah.
As far as the eruption time, it could be any time depending where you are
on the planet (Time Zones/International Date Line). And I don't
think that God places hidden obscure messages like that.
And besides, I believe that the natural catastrophes of the end times will
be known to all as the very hand of God. The extreme activity
written of in the Bible appears to me to happen after the
Elect are delivered up, not some 20 years before:
Luke
21:10-13
10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against
nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places,
and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall
there be from heaven.
12 But before all these, they shall lay
their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the
synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for
my name's sake.
13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony. (KJV)
It
is my humble opinion that when we start looking for hidden meanings in all
things, then we find hidden meanings in all things, but are they just our
overactive imagination and our zeal to know secret things, or are they
truly signs?
I feel that when God does something Biblical, in answer to Biblical
Prophecy, the entire world will know that God indeed has done as He has
said that He would do. What would placing the face of a man in the
smoke formation of Mt. St. Helens in 1980 accomplish? For a sign of
the end? Well, that was twenty-one years ago. Of course we now
have the luxury of looking back twenty-one years and analyzing the event.
Those at that time of the eruption in 1980 did not have that advantage.
However,
observe the timing of the prophesied signs; by the below Scripture
chronology they occur DURING and AFTER the Elect testify:
Acts
2:16-22
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I
will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your
daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your
old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those
days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth
beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before
that great and notable day of the Lord come:
21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the
Lord shall be saved.
22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man
approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did
by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: (KJV)
The miracles and signs and wonders came WITH Christ,
not some twenty-one years prior to Him. So too, do I believe, shall
the end time signs and wonders come. They will come during the Great
Tribulation when Elijah, the Two Witnesses of God and the Elect shall
testify against antichrist/satan and his one-world beast system. Not
before, and certainly not two decades before. Mt. St. Helens had
always been an active volcano, and it is predicted by
Geologists
to continue to erupt in the future. No great miracle there. I
feel that when God, by His power, shall bring the end-time signs and
wonders to pass, there shall be absolutely no doubt as that they are an
act of God for a purpose.
Excerpted from 1999 World Book Encyclopedia:
Mount Saint Helens is a volcano in
the Cascade Mountains, 95 miles (153 kilometers) south of Seattle. Mount
St. Helens erupted violently on May 18, 1980. The eruption resulted in
57 deaths. It also caused hundreds of millions of dollars of damage to
the surrounding area. Volcanic explosions blasted away more than 1,000
feet (300 meters) from the peak and created a huge crater. The volcano's
elevation after the 1980 eruption was 8,364 feet (2,549 meters) above
sea level. The eruption of Mount St. Helens was the first to occur in
the continental United States outside Alaska since 1917, when Lassen
Peak in northern California last erupted.
Mount St. Helens has erupted many times in the past 4,500 years, but it
was inactive from 1857 until 1980. Hot ash and rocks from the 1980
eruption started forest fires and melted snow on the upper slopes of the
mountain. The resulting floods and mud slides washed away buildings,
roads, and bridges. Explosions flattened millions of trees. The eruption
also spread a thick layer of volcanic ash over a wide area, destroying
crops and wildlife and blanketing cities. Between May 1980 and 1986,
many small eruptions occurred. But these did not result in deaths or
significant property damage. Geologists expect Mount St. Helens to
continue to erupt from time to time.
Contributor: Jois C. Child, Ph.D., Former Assistant Prof. of Geography,
Eastern Washington Univ.
Incidentally,
I believe that God shall alert His Elect to the time when it is at hand
and instruct them. He may do this in person through His Holy Spirit,
or by the Two Witnesses, or even by Elijah, who is prophesied to come
BEFORE the end (Mal 4:5-6), or some combination of the above.
God
does not leave us alone to make decisions regarding the culmination of the
age. We are incapable of standing up against supernatural beings
(antichrist/satan and the fallen angels/locust army). God will
provide that His Elect do exactly as He wishes to fulfill the unbreakable
prophecies in the Bible.
Matt
10:19
19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how
or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same
hour what ye shall speak. (KJV)
That
"same hour" is the five months of antichrist's reign:
Rev
17:12
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings,
which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one
hour with the beast. (KJV)
Matt 26:40-41
40 And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them
asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one
hour?
41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation:
the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak. (KJV)
Rev 3:9-10
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan,
which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make
them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved
thee.
10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I
also will keep thee from the hour of temptation,
which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the
earth. (KJV)
Rev 18:10
10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment,
saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in
one hour is thy judgment come. (KJV)
God
bless!
Nick
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Was the holocaust of the
Jews in WWII greatly over- exaggerated?
SC WRITES
I Need help with
a sensitive topic
Hi. I was skipping around on the net between my favorite Bible
study sites and saw something that I am now unable to locate.
It was in reference to the locust armies of Revelations and the Kenites,
and it mentioned the Holocaust, and the word holocaust was written
hoLOCaUST. The implication was that the holocaust of the Jews in
WWII was greatly over- exaggerated, but no other information was given.
Now given the nature of the
Kenites to "poor me baby" and "give me money for my pain
and suffering", I have no problems believing that such a thing is
possible. However, I am looking for more substantive proof.
:) Can you either give me an answer or some sites that I could go
to to study up on this? My searches so far have only yielded
indignant folks that refute the denial claims and call others who
question the holocaust racist and Nazi.
I would appreciate any help you can give me on this, and at your
earliest convenience.
Thanks, SC
ANSWER:
Hi, First of all, not all Jews are Kenites, and not
all Kenites are Jews, though they do seem to group in family clans.
The Kenites are the upper elite that nobody really sees (Rothschilds,
Rockefellers, Bilderbergers, Learned Elders of Zion, the upper echelon of
the Secret Societies - Illuminati et al, ...).
And yes the 6 million figure is exaggerated probably
by a factor of ten. There were more like 600,000 not 6,000,000 Jews
who died of ALL causes during WW II.
"With the help of one hundred
pages of cross-checked statistics, professor Rassinier concludes in Le
Drame des Juifs Europeen that the number of Jewish casualties during
the Second World War could not have exceeded 1,200,000. However,
he regards such a figure as a maximum limit" --
Did Six Million Really Die? The Truth At Last; pg. 27
The ugly little truth is that they (Jews) got rich
off of the subsidies paid as reparations, reaped enormous International
sympathy, and got a Nation as well (Israel). Four-fifths of the
supposed 6 million Jewish victims that Germany was paying subsidies as
reparations for were alive after the war. That should answer your
question as to why the Jews
would lie. Nobody mentions the 12 million Christians who died in WW
II, nor were any reparations paid. I guess they don't count anymore,
maybe they never did. Nor does anyone mention 'who' financed that
war (the same people who financed both
sides of our American Civil War). Yeah, you got it, the 'victims,'
the Rothschild's and the other International Jewish banking Family
Cartels.
I've seen faked before and after photos of corpses
superposed in front of Concentration camp inmates:
FAKE
death camp PHOTOGRAPHS
Excerpted from: --
Did Six Million Really Die? The Truth At Last; pg. 23 & 24
"Not only were situations such as those at Belsen
unscrupulously exploited for propaganda purposes, but this propaganda has
also made use of entirely fake atrocity photographs and films. The extreme
conditions at Belsen applied to very few camps indeed; the great majority
escaped the worst difficulties and their inmates survived in good health.
As a result, outright forgeries were used to exaggerate conditions of
horror.
A startling case of such forgery was revealed in the British Catholic
Herald of October 29, 1948. It reported that in Cassel, where
every adult German was compelled to see a film representing the
"horrors" of Buchenwald, a doctor from Goettingen saw himself on
the Screen looking after the victims. But he had never been to
Buchenwald. After an interval of bewilderment he realized that what he
had seen was part of a film taken after the terrible air raid on Dresden by
the Allies on 13 February, 1945 where the doctor had been working. The
film in question was shown in Cassel on 19 October, 1948. After the air
raid on Dresden, which killed a record 135,000 people, mostly refugee
women and children, the bodies of the victims were piled and burned in
heaps of 400 and 500 for several weeks. These were the scenes, purporting
to be from Buchenwald, which the doctor had recognized.
The forgery of war-time atrocity photographs is not new. For further
information the reader is referred to Falsehood in Wartime (London,
1928) by Arthur Ponsonby MP, which exposes the faked photographs of German
atrocities in the First World War. Ponsonby cites such fabrications as
"The Corpse Factory" and "The Belgian Baby without
Hands," which are strikingly reminiscent of the propaganda relating
to Nazi ‘atrocities’. F.J. P. Wale explains in his book that the bogus
"jar of human soap" solemnly introduced by the Soviet
prosecution at Nuremberg was a deliberate jibe at the famous British
"Corpse Factory" myth, in which the ghoulish Germans were
supposed to have obtained various commodities from processing corpses (Times
17 April 1917, p.5; Veale, ibid, p. 192; The Penguin Book of Lies,
Kerr, London, 1990, p. 301). The accusation was one for which the
British Government apologized after 1918.
It received new life after 1945 in the tale of lamp shades of human skin,
which was certainly as fraudulent as the Soviet "human soap". In
fact, from Manvell and Frankl we have the grudging admission that the lamp
shade evidence at the Buchenwald Trial "later appeared to be
dubious" (The Incomparable Crime, p. 84).
It was given by a certain Andreas Pfaffenberger in a "written
affidavit" of the kind discussed earlier, but in 1948 General Lucius
Clay admitted that the affidavits used in the trial appeared after more
thorough investigation to have been mostly ‘hearsay’.
 
An excellent work on the fake atrocity photographs pertaining to the Myth
of the Six Million is Udo Walendy’s Forged War Crimes Malign the
German Nation (Vlotho/Weser, 1989; Hull 1996), and from the numerous
examples given we illustrate one overleaf [the
two photos supplied at right and above] The origin of the first
photograph is unknown, but the second is a photomontage. Close
examination reveals immediately that the standing figures have been taken
from the first photograph and a of corpses superimposed in front of them.
The fence has been removed and an entirely new horror
"photograph" created. This blatant forgery appears on page
341 of R. Schabel's book on the S.S., Macht ohne Moral: Eine
Dokumentation uber die SS (Frankfort, 1975), with the caption "Mauthausen".
Walendy has cited eighteen other examples of forgery in Schnabel's book.
The same photograph appeared in the Proceedings of the International
Military Tribunal, Vol. XXX, p. 421, likewise purporting to illustrate
Mauthausen camp. It is also illustrated without caption in Eugene
Aroneanu’s Konzentrationlager; Document F.321 for the
International Court at Nuremberg; Heinz Künrich’s Der KZ-Staat (Berlin,
1960, p. 81); Vaclav Berdych’s Mauthausen (Prague, 1959) and
Robert Neumann’s Hitler - Aafsueg und Untergang des Dritten
Reiches (Munich, 1961)."
Gas
Chambers and the Zyklon B Gas
I've heard of the so-called Gas Chambers (really shower rooms) with their
floor drains linked by sewer to the German Officers Mess Hall (Hardly the
ideal set-up for the introduction of poisonous gas.) I've heard the
Scientific analysis of the Zyklon B Gas that was supposedly used to
exterminate millions of Jews. It is ill suited as an agent for human
extermination (it was an insect pesticide). There were no Gas
Chambers.
Chemical
analysis from The Dupont Chemical Co. Publication 7-83
"Time of exposure
depends on the type of pests to be attacked; for the destruction of the
various types of moths and their pre-adult stages 24
hours will suffice, against other kinds of insect
pests one should fumigate for 48 hours. If there are any
dense stowages or bulkss of commodities to penetrate, the time of
exposure may need to be extended to 72 hours." -- (Excerpted from the Dupont Chemical
Co. analysis and method of use (on insects). Complete analisis at
the end of this article)
I've seen pictures of the ovens that were so few in
number (2 at one camp) with which they would probably still be burning the
so-called 6,000,000 bodies today. I've read the outrageous claims:
"...Although Reitinger's
6,000 a day would mean a total by October 1944 of over 5 million, all
such estimates pale before the wild fantasies of Olga Lengyel in her
book Five Chimneys (London, 1959). Claiming to be a former
inmate of Aushwitz, she asserts that the camp cremated no less than
"720 per hour, or 17,280 corpses per 24 hour shift." She
also alleges that, in addition, 8,000 people were burned every day in
the "death pits" and that "In round numbers, about 24,000
corpses were handled every day" (p, 80-81). This, of course,
would mean a yearlt rate of over 8 ½ million. Thus between march
1942 and October 1944 Auschwitz would finally disposed of over 21
million people, six million more than the entire world Jewish
population. Comment is superfluous." --
Did Six Million Really Die? The Truth At Last; pg. 15
German Soldiers Confess To Jewish Interrogators
After WW II; What's Wrong With This picture?
"...Van Roden
[American judge Edward van Roden, investigator for the 'methods of
justice' at the Dachau trials]
explained: "The statements which were then admitted as evidence
were obtained from men who had first been kept in solitary confinement
for three, four, five months...The investigators would put a black hood
over the [German soldiers]
accused's head and then punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick
him and beat him with rubber hoses... All but two of the German's, in
the 139 cases we investigated, had been kicked in the testicles beyond
repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American
investigators."
The "American"
investigators responsible (and who later functioned as the prosecution
in the trials) and his assistants, Capt. Raphael Shumacker, Lt. Robert
E. Byrne, Lt. William R. Perl, Mr. Morris Ellowitz, Mr. harry Thon,and
Mr. Kirschbaum. The legal advisor of the court was Col. A. H.
Rosenfield. The reader will immediately appreciate from their
names that the majority of these people were "biased on racial
grounds" in the words of Justice Wenrsturm - that is, were Jewish,
and therefore should never have been involved in any such
investigation." --
Did Six Million Really Die? The Truth At Last; pg. 10
Didn’t you ever wonder why the Zionists pursue
some sad-sack German soldier Concentration Camp Guard for decades and then
charge the underling with war crimes when he could have never disobeyed
his orders to begin with? It’s all hype and propaganda to
reinforce the Jewish persecution myth. They are the persecutors if
anybody is. Why don’t we hunt down and prosecute the American
Soldiers who participated in the Mai Lia Massacre. Because they were
men under orders in a time of war! Believe what you will, but
it is one big organized Zionist plot.
Unfortunately, no mainstream bookseller will carry
the titles that document this and any other ' unfavorable' facts about the
Jews. They control all media, both printed, publishing houses,
visual, radio, and they are working on controlling the internet (did you
see who bought out A.O.L. several months ago?)
However, you are in luck. Below is a Website that carries many such
books, for now. Check especially the Suppressed Titles (SU) Section,
specifically the book referenced Did
Six Million Really Die? The Truth At Last.
It has many photo's regarding your questions.
I have made several purchases from them and always received my order
promptly and honestly. You have to wade through some so-called
Racist material at this book seller, but there are dozens of good
reference and history books on the site.
I was going to offer some of the history books in
our Book store, but I figured the Kenites would make me out to be some
kind of an anti-Semite Racist boogeyman because this bookseller also has
so-called 'Racist titles.' I didn't want to give the Kenite an
opportunity to defame a Christian Bible study Website (ours), but heck,
I'm not going to lie for them; thus, I will answer your honest question
and post your question/answer on the Website (without your name, of
course) for any others who are not afraid of the truth. Since when
can't we read what we want? I trust that you know what is junk and
what is well documented fact. Censorship is upon us, it's everywhere
around us, and we do not even know it.
Be ready to have your eyes opened more than you
probably want them to be. And there's no going back once you fully
discover the Kenite for whom and what he is, you will never look at the
world the same again.
I don't believe they take Credit Cards, and the Site
is at:
http://sharpwebpage.com/CR/CatalogTOC.html
Christian Research
P.O. Box 385
Eureka Springs, Arkansas [ 72632-0385 ]
Phone / FAX: (501) 253-7185 *
E-Mail
And to those who don't like this topic and would rather
bury their heads in the sand:
John 8:32
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. (KJV)
Gal 4:16
16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? (KJV)
God bless!
Nick
Zyklon B: Chemical analysis from Dupont
Publication 7-83
Note: The fact file series is intended to present facts of
history, free from the polemics and misinformation so often presented in
this medium. Hopefully the facts contained herein will serve the cause of
truth in history.
Note to educators and students: This Fact File presents
background and technical information regarding Zyklon B. Zyklon B or in
English, Cyclone B was a trade name of the German firm Degesch which
supervised the distribution of this product during World War II. The
product was designed as a fumigant for the purpose of pest and vermin
control. Zyklon B was a special preparation which contained hydrocyanic
acid (HCN). HCN was used as a fumigant even prior to World War I by the
United States. Zyklon B was HCN absorbed in a carrier, typically wood pulp
or diatomaceous earth. This preparation of pellets was sealed in an
airtight can to make handling and transportation safer. Zyklon B would be
a forgotten footnote of World War II except for the allegation that it was
used as a poisonous gas to execute millions of concentration camp inmates.
Much was made of the bills of lading for deliveries of this fumigant at
the Nuremberg Trials. It is reasoned that most of the concentration
camps used Zyklon to kill vermin and fight disease thereby reducing the
camp death rates. Other camps, designated by experts as extermination
camps used the same Zyklon to kill inmates and thereby increase the camp
death rates. Therefore, deliveries of Zyklon to Dachau was beneficial and
humane while delivery of Zyklon to Auschwitz was criminal.
| SPECIFICATIONS FOR
HCN |
| Name |
HCN, hydrocyanic acid; prussic acid |
| Boiling point |
25.7 C / 78.3 F at 760 mm Hg |
| Specific gravity |
0.69 at 18 C / 64 F |
| Vapor density |
0.947 (air = 1) |
| Melting point |
-13.2 C / 8.2 F |
| Vapor pressure |
750mm Hg at 25 C / 77 F 1200mm Hg at
38 C /100F |
| Solubility in water |
100% |
| Appearance |
clear |
| Color |
slightly bluish |
| Odor |
bitter almond, very mild,
non-irritating (odor is not considered a safe method of
determining presence of the poison) |
| Hazards |
| 1. |
Unstable with heat, alkaline
materials and water |
| 2. |
Will explode if mixed with 20%
sulfuric acid. |
| 3. |
Polymerization (decomposition)
will occur violently with heat, alkaline material or
water. Once started, reaction is autocatalytic and
uncontrollable. Will explode. |
| 4. |
Flash point: -18 C / 0 F |
| 5. |
Autoignition temperature: 538
C / 1000 F |
| 6. |
Flammable limits in air volume
% lower 6 upper 41 |
|
Source: Hydrogen Cyanide, Dupont Publication
7-83.
HISTORY
As long as 80 years ago it was recognized that hydrocyanic acid could be
useful in pest control but it took half this time to popularize the
method. Deficiencies and disadvantages had first of all to be eliminated
from the method of application. First this had been done in such a way
that hydrocyanic acid was no more developed on the spot by mixing cyanides
and acid, but this process already took place in the factory: The
so-called pot method was replaced by liquid hydrocyanic acid. The few
deficiencies of this procedure were removed in the early twenties by the
ZYKLON method: One added liquid HCN to a carrier substance, thus
simplifying handling whilst all favourable properties of liquid HCN were
maintained. At the same time, danger to the operator was reduced to a
minimum. Hydrocyanic acid in the form of ZYKLON can be safely stored for
considerable periods and under all climatic conditions, any quantity of
gas can be easily measured, quickly and cleanly released. Any residures
are completely harmless.
COMPOSITION:
In ZYKLON pure (98%-99%) liquid hydrocyanic acid is chemically stabilized
and absorbed in a porous, inert material. It is supplied in snippets or
discs prepared from wood pulp. Snippets generally are preferred as in view
of their larger surface they give off the gas more rapidly. Upon request
also discs can be supplied. The aborbent material can easily be collected
at the end of the fumigation.
PACKING:
ZYKLON is packed in handy, gas-tight tins of various sizes which are
packed in strong wooden cases. One case, measuring 72 x 50 x 36 cm
contains: Imperial - units 16 tins, each containing 40 ozs. HCN - total 40
lbs HCN or 30 tins, each containing 16 ozs. HCN - total 30 lbs HCN.
TOXICITY:
No thoroughly effective pesticide is known to exist which could be
considered to be harmless to human beings or mammals. Fatal concentrations
of HCN impede or completely cut off the oxygen supply to the cells. The
poison can enter the body in three ways: through the mouth, the
respiratory organs, or the pores of the skin. The latter will occur in
particular if the body is exposed to high concentration for any length of
time and in unfavourable conditions (great heat).
METHODS:
Prior to fumigation, the tins must be distributed about the building. The
tins are opened, and the ZYKLON is scattered so as to reach even the
remotest parts of the building. If this is done correctly the gas will
develop evenly and instantaneously throughout the premises. Spaces
difficult to reach may be charged separately. In multi-storied buildings
one begins with the top floor, and then works towards the exit, taking
care that nobody re-enters rooms already charged. Even under mask
protection it is not advisable to expose oneself to the gas more than is
absolutely necessary. The exit door is sealed after everybody has left the
building; warning notices must be put up before gassing commences and a
guard placed near the building to prevent unauthorised persons from
entering. Time of exposure depends on the type of pests
to be attacked; for the destruction of the various types of moths and
their pre-adult stages 24 hours will suffice, against other kinds of
insect pests one should fumigate for 48 hours. If there are any dense
stowages or bulkss of commodities to penetrate, the time of exposure may
need to be extended to 72 hours.
VENTILATION:
During this operation gas-masks must be worn. The ventilation takes place
in the reverse direction to the gassing. All windows near the entrance are
opened first, then gradually those in the rest of the building. It is
advisable to work only for 10 to 15 minutes at a time and then to make
interruptions of half an hour, as a precaution against skin poisoning.
Depending on concentration, outdoor tempature and weather conditions,
ventilation will take at least 10 hours. Clearing of tins and residues may
be commenced before the end of airing. Windows and doors must remain open,
and gas-masks kept available. ZYKLON tins and absorbent material must
always be collected and cleared away before the resumption of work.
Source: Zyklon for Pest Control, Degesch Publication
A SHORT LIST OF BOOKS FOR FURTHER READING
The following are works by Fred A. Leuchter Jr., unquestionably an expert
in the design and fabrication of execution hardware. Mr. Leuchters career
and personal life have been destroyed due to the publication of these
works. Every slander, every weapon has been used to silence Fred Leuchter.
Prior to the defamation, Fred Leuchter was featured on Prime Time Live
where he was called,>> the countrys reigning expert on execution. He
was also part of an expert panel on the Phil Donahue Show regarding
Capital Punishment. The New York Times ran a first page story with photo.
According to the Times, Mr. Leuchter is <<a consultant to 16 states
on executions.>>
The Leuchter Report: The First Forensic Examination of Auschwitz
(Focal Point Publications - 81 Duke Street, London W1M 5DJ
The Second Leuchter Report: Dachau, Mauthausen, Hartheim
The Third Leuchter Report: A Technical Report on the Execution Gas
Chamber - Mississippi State Penitentiary Parchman, Mississippi
The Fourth Leuchter Report: An Engineering Evaluation of Jean-Claude
Pressacs Book Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers
(All are published by :History Buff Books and Video - P.O. Box 3061,
Station C - Hamilton, Ontario - Canada L8H 7J3) The above mentioned items
can be obtained by writing to : Samisdat Publ. 206 Carlton St. Toronto,
Ontario, Canada M5A 2L1
Institute of Forensic Research, An Official Polish Report on the
Auschwitz Gas Chambers- Journal of Historical Review, Vol XI, No. 2 Summer
1991
Walter Lueftl, The Lueftl Report: An Austrian Engineers Report on the
Gas Chambers of Auschwitz and Mauthausen - Journal of Historical Review,
Vol XII, No. 4 Winter 92-93.(Published by the IHR P.O. Box 2719 Newport
Beach, CA 92659)
Germar Rudolf, Gutachten uber die Bildung und Nachweisbarkeit von
Cyanidverbindungen in den Gaskammern von Auschwitz (Technical Report on
the formation and detection of cyanide compounds in the gas chambers of
Auschwitz) (Cromwell Press, 27 Old Gloucester St., London WC1N 3XX,
England, UK)
One should also obtain the Translation of Document No. NI-9912 Office
of Chief Counsel for War Crimes: Directives for the use of Prussic Acid (Zyklon)
for the Destruction of Vermin (Disinfestation).
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A-Millenialism. What is
it, and is it Biblical?
Below is a short exchange of letters wherein we asked the gentleman to
explain his beliefs in A-Millenialism. I had not asked permission to
post the gentleman’s name with his letters, so as a matter of
courteously, I will refer to him as simply "Joe."
"Joe" Writes:
HI Nick,
A-millenialism is the belief that there is no future thousand year reign
of Christ. We believe when Christ returns it is the last day and the
final judgment. And then he will create the new heaven and earth.
And reign forever and ever,
"waiting for and hastening the
coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved
in flames and the elements melted by fire. But according to his promise
we await new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness
dwells."
[WBSG NOTE: Joe supplied the above
verse from another Bible version (we can't figure out which one -
perhaps he paraphrased). We at WBSG use only the king James Bible.
Below is Joe's Scripture in the KJV:
2 Pet 3:12-13
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein
the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall
melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and
a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. (KJV)
Back to Joe's letter:]
The 1,000 is believed to be a symbolic
number. Is there biblical precedent for the number 1000 to be
symbolic? The bible says God owns the cattle on a 1,000 hills.
Does this mean he doesn't own them on a 1001? The Bible says that
the blessings of God are to the thousandth generation, etc. The
number 1000 thousand represent fullness. A day is to the Lord as a
1000 yrs.
I believe in one final resurrection of the just and unjust. ...When?
"Behold, He cometh with clouds, and EVERY eye shall see Him"
–– Revelation 1:7. When Christ returns. And again, I say
Matthew 25 describes the final great white throne judgment. This
occurs when Christ returns.
In Christ
[Joe]
Our
answer to Joe:
Hello Joe:
I must say that I have never heard it on that wise. So then, would
it be correct to say the an "A-Millenium" believer does not
believe in the so-called Rapture? And by "Rapture,"
I mean any gathering of a partial amount of the souls
(people) from among those living on the earth at the time Prior
to the Second Advent of Christ Jesus, no matter where the several
different and disharmonious Rapture doctrines place that event.
Also, you said that "And again, I
say Matthew 25 describes the final great white throne judgment. This
occurs when Christ returns." While Matthew 25:46 mentions
what shall happen at the Judgment Day (or the outcome of it, better
stated) , it does not set it here chronologically in Matthew 25, anymore
than it sets the Second Advent and Millennium at Matt 25:31-32 even though
it mentions it and looks forward to it. You have to remember,
Matthew 25 is all parables.
Also, you wrote:
"HI Nick, A-Millenialism is
the belief that there is no future thousand year reign of Christ.
We believe when Christ returns it is the last day and the final
judgment. And then he will create the new heaven and earth.
And reign forever and ever, ..."
May I then ask you what you would have us
do with (Rev 20:1-10)? For it is events that lead up to the Judgment
day of (Rev 20:11-15):
Rev 20:1-10
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the
bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the
Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a
seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the
thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a
little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given
unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the
witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not
worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark
upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned
with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years
were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on
such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God
and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out
of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four
quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to
battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp
of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God
out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and
brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be
tormented day and night for ever and ever. (KJV)
That's a lot of Scripture to 'spiritualize'
away! Below is the Final Judgment Day that you seem to skip over the
above ten verses to get to:
Rev 20:11-15
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose
face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place
for them.12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and
the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book
of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were
written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell
delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every
man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the
second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast
into the lake of fire. (KJV)
Please explain. Thank-you.
God bless
Nick
Joe replies:
Hi Nick,
A-Millenialism was the predominant view among the church for 14 centuries.
All the Protestant reformers were A- Mill. Pre-millenialism was
revived in the 1800's. Please do NOT confuse what I am saying with
Preterism. I disagree with preterist thinking.
We do believe in the catching away of the saints on the last day, as
described in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, to be preceded by the final judgment
and the new heaven and new earth.
A "thousand years" is a figurative, or symbolical, description
of the entire age of the new covenant. The number 1,000 is a
symbolical number, made up as it is of the number 10. In the Bible,
10 is the number of completeness. The symbolical nature of the
thousand year period is in harmony with the symbolical character of the
book of Revelation, e.g., the depiction of Satan as a great red dragon
(Rev. 12). It is also in harmony with the obviously figurative
character of the binding of the spirit, Satan, with a great chain.
WE REPLY TO JOE:
Hello Joe:
While I can appreciate that there is certain symbology incorporated in the
Holy Scriptures, I cannot see the thousand years in Revelation 20 as
symbolic. There are too many references to the thousand years as a
specific length of time; it tells of what happens during the thousand
years, what happens after the thousand years, how those in Christ will
reign with Him, how those not in Christ shall sleep through it.
Perhaps if this 1000 year period were only mentioned once in this
Scripture we may have taken it as symbolic, but there are no less that
FIVE times that this specific length of time is spoken of in this
Scripture. I feel that the Holy Spirit was being quite emphatic that
this is a literal 1000 year span of time.
I just can’t see how can spiritualize away this thousand years and all
that transpires during it. Also, the last nine chapters of the book
of Ezekiel (chpt. 40 onward) describe this time (the Millennium) and what
transpires during it, describes the Millennial Temple (which is NOT the
Holy City Jerusalem come down from God in Rev 22:2). Would you then
tell us to spiritualize away (or take symbolically or as metaphor)
one-fifth of the book of Ezekiel?
Many have stated that 1000 is a day with the Lord, and so it is: "...that
one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one
day" (2 Pet 3:8). But this even lends more support
to a literal 1000 year Millennium, for it is the Lords Day spoken of so
much in prophecy, which begins at the Second Advent and ends after
Judgment day (Rev 20:15). The Millennium is the literal 1000 year
day of the Lord (1000 years with us = one day with God).
Also, the mention of the thousand years in the second verse )of rev 20)
regarding satan’s incarceration solidly links the later references of
the thousand years in the chapter as being the same time frame.
Therefore I do not feel that we have authority to declare that from verse
four onward is a different time than that being spoken of in verses 1-3.
I just do see how you can make a change of thought and time even
in-between verses 3 & 4 of Rev chpt. 20 (see below).
The one greatest error, I think, that Bible commentators make, is to
confuse that which is symbolic with that which is literal, and taking that
which is literal as though it were symbolic. Every Scripture must be
measured by it’s own content, it’s subject and object, in context both
as to time and place, and who or what is being spoken of, etc. That
of course is the goal of all great Bible commentators. And all do
not do so well. Dr. E.W. Bullinger, while not perfect, does a better
job than any in his The
Companion Bible.
Observe the "Millennium Scripture" again and note the
highlighting that I have supplied. I feel that do to the
explicitness of these highlighted texts, this below Scripture cannot be
taken in way other than a literal 1000 year period of time wherein Christ
accomplishes several tasks in accordance with prophecy both in the Old and
the New Testaments. Observe:
Rev 20:1-6
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the
bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the
Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years ,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a
seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till
the thousand years should be fulfilled : and after that he
must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given
unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the
witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not
worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark
upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and
reigned with Christ a thousand years .5 But the rest of the
dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished .
This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on
such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God
and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years .
(KJV)
Comments?
God bless you my friend!
Nick
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