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QUESTION LIST #21
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  1. Predestination; are fates set in some cases?

  2. Confusing the matter by calling the Giants (children of the fallen angels) "Gibbor"; they are properly called Nephilim

  3. Is it OK for Christians to celebrate Christmas (and Easter) even though it has been Paganized?

  4. A Reader asks about the money system during the Tribulation

  5. Jehovah's Witnesses New World Translation Bible translation of John 1:1: "the Word was a god"

  6. Are Kenites real?  Where are they today?

  7. Does the book of Esther belong in the Bible?

  8. How can God speak to Jesus if they are One?

  9. The Tribulation; Seals Trumps, and Vials, have they commenced (started) yet? How long is it to be for?

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Question #1
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Predestination; are fates set in some cases?

 

A Reader asks:

"is it an accurate assumption to say that even in our spiritual bodies we have free will and can commit sin?  Is this why some "evil" souls are placed in certain corrupt bloodlines as they assume fleshly bodies here in this earth age?"

Answer:

     Hello, you asked a good deep question.  The answer is yes, but I can't prove it to you.  Please understand that this touches on predestination in a way that most people cannot fathom nor would be willing to accept, though the Bible is really all about predestination.

     It's about - who is forever - and who is not forever.  I think that what happened in the rebellion in the age of old sealed many fates; and that people today, as we know them, must just simply live it out; else the below Scriptures do not seem fair:

John 6:44
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.  (KJV)

John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  (KJV)

     The irony.

     That there are some that were to be born into their fate is clear:

Jude 4
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.  KJV

     My opinion, drawn from the totality of the Scriptures; and admittedly not able to be documented by any one Scripture alone, as would have been desired; is that certain were fated to work for satan, and certain were destined to work for God; and between these two groups lies the overwhelming majority of people who have choice and free will.

     Those that I refer to as satan's, would be the Kenites; and those that I refer to as God's, would be what we (sometimes confusingly) refer to as God's Elect

     NOTE:  Please do not confuse "God's Elect" with all Christians.  And please understand that many times all Christians are referred to as the Elect, but that within that group is a body of individuals that were afore-ordained to work for God.  A study on this is well overdue, and when time permits we shall publish one here.  Many people read the scriptures wherein it mentions "the Elect" and "the Elect Lady," etc., and suppose that this is not speaking of the general body of Christians, but only of a sub-group.  This is an error.  All Christians are Elect, but there is a sub-group of these Elect that is ordained from before the world began to work the purpose of God.  The difficulty is in how to know when it is speaking of the main group or when it is speaking of the sub-group.  More to come, someday....

     The bottom line is that God is fair; and that if there are some "who were before of old ordained to this condemnation", and there are, then it is because of what they did in the rebellion of the First Earth Age.  What is the condemnation?  Observe as the Master tells us:

John 3:17-21
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.  KJV

Jude 4
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.  KJV

     Bullinger has an appendix that goes into this rebellion, I will reproduce it below my signature line.

God bless the study of His Word, in Jesus Christ' name!
Nick Goggin

EXCERPT FROM: "The Foundation of the World"

Foundation of the World
This Is Appendix 146 From The Companion Bible.

   To arrive at the true meaning of this expression, we must note that there are two words translated "foundation" in the New Testament: 

(1) themelios, and 

(2) katabole.

   The Noun, themelios

occurs in Luke 6:48-49, 14:29, Acts 16:26, Romans 15:20, 1Corinthians 3:l0-12, Ephesians 2:20, 1Timothy 6:19, 2Timothy 2:19, Hebrews 6:1, 11:10, Revelation 21:14,19. It is never used of the world (kosmos) or the earth (ge). The corresponding Verb (themelioo) occurs in Matthew 7:25, Luke 6:48, Ephesians 3:17, Colossians 1:23, Hebrews 1:10 and 1Peter 5:10. The verb is only once used of the earth (ge). Hebrews 1:10.

   A comparison of all these passages will show that these are proper and regular terms for the English words "to found", and "foundation".

   The Noun, katabole

occurs in Matthew 13:35, 25:34, Luke 11:50, John 17:24, Ephesians 1:4, Hebrews 4:3, 9:26 , 11:11, 1Peter 1:20, Revelation 13:8, 17:8 and the corresponding Verb (kataballo) occurs in 2Corinthians 4:9, Hebrews 6:1 and Revelation 12:10.

   A comparison of all these passages (especially 2Corinthians 4:9 and Revelation 12:10) will show that kataballo and katabole are not the proper terms for founding and foundation, but the correct meaning is casting down, or overthrow.
 

   Consistency, therefore, calls for the same translation in Hebrews 6:1, where, instead of "not laying again", the rendering should be "not casting down". That is to say, the foundation already laid, of repentance, etc., was not to be cast down or overthrown, but was to be left and progress made unto the perfection.

   Accordingly, the Noun katabole, derived from, and cognate with the Verb, ought to be translated "disruption", or "ruin".

   The remarkable thing is that in all occurrences (except Hebrews 11:11) the word is connected with "the world" (Greek kosmos. Appendix 129.1), and therefore the expression should be rendered "the disruption (or ruin) of the world", clearly referring to the condition indicated in Genesis 1:2, and described in 2Peter 3:5-6. For the earth was not created tohu (Isaiah 45:18) but became so, as stated in the Hebrew of Genesis 1:2 and confirmed by 2Peter 3:6, where "the world that then was by the word of God" (Genesis 1:1), perished and "the heavens and the earth which are now, by the same word" were created (Genesis 2:4), and are "kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment" (2Peter 3:7) which shall usher in the "new heavens and the new earth" of 2Peter 3:13.

   "The disruption of the world" is an event forming a great dividing line in the dispensations of the ages. In Genesis 1:1 we have the founding of the world (Hebrews 1:10 = themelioo), but in Genesis 1:2 we have its overthrow.

   This is confirmed by a further remarkable fact, that the phrase, which occurs ten times, is associated with the Preposition apo = from (Appendix 104. iv) seven times, and with pro = before (Appendix 104. xiv) three times. The former refers to the kingdom, and is connected with the "counsels" of God; the latter refers to the Mystery (or Secret; See Appendix 193) and is connected with the "purpose" of God (see John 17:24, Ephesians 1:4, 1Peter 1:20).

   Ample New Testament testimony is thus given to the profoundly significant fact recorded in Genesis 1:2, that "the earth became tohu and bohu (i.e. waste and desolate); and darkness was on the face of the deep", before the creation of "the heavens and the earth which are now" (2Peter 3:7). 

 

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Confusing the matter by calling the Giants (children of the fallen angels) "Gibbor"; they are properly called Nephilim


Shay asks:

"Was he (Jephthah) just a mighty man or is that gibbor in the definition of progeny of the fallen angels?????"

Answer:

     Hi Shay, long time, no hear.  He (Jephthah) was just a mighty man, he was not of the fallen angels.  Pastor Murray, in my opinion, confuses the matter by calling the children of the fallen angels "Gibbor."

     The confusion, I believe, is coming from a misunderstanding of the children of the fallen angels.  The fallen angels are the "sons of God," not the Nephiylium (various English transliterations and spellings acceptable).

     The Nephiyl (Nephiylium) are the offspring (children) of the fallen angels (the sons of God), they get their name from "the fallen", i.e., the sons of the fallen ones, so that while the sons of God ‘fell' their offspring are the ones called the Nephiyl, which name means "fallen."  It is common to call the children by the attributes of the father.  Observe:

"Giants" of Gen 6:4: Hebrew word #5303  nephiyl (nef-eel'); or nephil (nef-eel'); from 5307; properly, a feller, i.e. a bully or tyrant: KJV-- giant.

Hebrew word #5307  naphal (naw-fal'); a primitive root; to fall, in a great variety of applications (intransitive or causative, literal or figurative):   KJV-- be accepted, cast (downself,, [lots], out), cease, die, divide (by lot), (let) fail, (cause to, let, make, ready to) fall (away, down, -en, -ing), fell (-ing), fugitive, have [inheritance], inferior, be judged [by mistake for 6419], lay (along), (cause to) lie down, light (down), be (X hast) lost, lying, overthrow, overwhelm, perish, present (-ed, -ing), (make to) rot, slay, smite out, X surely, throw down.

     Now to your word Gibbowr (or Gibbor, etc...), it is found in Gen 6:4 as "mighty men."  Observe:

"Mighty men" of Gen 6:4: Hebrew word #1368  gibbowr (ghib-bore'); or (shortened) gibbor (ghib-bore'); intensive from the same as 1397; powerful; by implication, warrior, tyrant: KJV-- champion, chief, X excel, giant, man, mighty (man, one), strong (man), valiant man.

     So that what we see is that while the children of the fallen angels are called Nephillum, and that they became as mighty men (Gibbor), not all mighty men (Gibbor) are children of the fallen angels.  In other words, "Gibbor" is an attribute of a person, while "Nephilium" is a name of persons (the giants of the fallen angels).

     A way to understand this would be in the analogy of, say, that "all bankers are wealthy, but not all wealthy men are bankers."  You know what I am trying to show here?

     Now bearing in mind that becoming a Gibbor (mighty man) is what happened to the children of the fallen angels (Nephilim) but not all who become "mighty men" (Gibbor) are children of the fallen angels.

     Remember that Nimrod was also called a "mighty man" - "mighty one" (Gibbor) though his lineage is from Cush by Ham, whom was from Noah, who was from Adam; i.e., no lineage to the fallen angels.

Gen 10:8
8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one [Gibbor] in the earth. (KJV)

    In Gen 6:4 we see several words that are translated as "man" or "men" in the Bible, each having a distinct meaning that is lost to the student through the English language Bible.  Observe:

Gen 6:4
4 There were giants [Nephilim] in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God [the fallen angels] came in unto the daughters of men [Adam], and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men [Gibbor] which were of old, men [Ish] of renown [Shem]. (KJV)

     Appendix #14 of the Companion Bible will help you with this.  I have reproduced it below my signaure line.

God bless the study of His Word, in Jesus Christ' name!
Nick Goggin

EXCERPT FROM: The Synonymous Words used for "Man":

 

The Synonymous Words
used for "Man".

This Is Appendix 14 From The Companion Bible.

   There are four principal Hebrew words rendered "man", and these must be carefully discriminated. Every occurrence is noted in the margin of The Companion Bible. They represent him from four different points of view :-

 

  1. 'Adam, denotes his origin, as being made from the "dust of the Adamah" ground (Latin homo).
  2. 'Ish, has regard to sex, a male (Latin vir).
  3. 'Enosh, has regard to his infirmities, as physically mortal, and as to character, incurable.
  4. Geber, has respect to his strength, a mighty man.

   I.  

'Adam, without the article, denotes man or mankind in general (Genesis 1:26; 2:5; 5:1, followed by plural pronoun). With the article, it denotes the man, Adam, though rendered "man" in Genesis 1:27; 2:7 (twice) 8,15,16,19 (margin), 22 (twice); 3:12,22,24; 5:1; 6:1 (rendered "men"), 2,3,4. After this, the Hebrew 'Adam = man or men, is used of the descendants of Adam. Hence, Christ is called "the son of Adam", not a son of Enosh.

   With the particle Hebrew: eth ('eth) in addition to the article it is very emphatic, and means self, very, this same, this very,. See Genesis 2:7 (first occurrence), 8,15.

   Rendered in the Septuagint Greek: anthropos (anthropos) 411 times; Greek: aner (aner) eighteen times (fifteen in Proverbs); once Greek: thnetos (thnetos), Proverbs 20:24 = dying; four times Greek: brotos (brotos), mortal (all in Job); once Greek: gegenes (gegenes), earth-born, Jeremiah 32:20.

   II.  

'Ish. First occurrence in feminine, Genesis 2:23, 'ishah = woman. Therefore, 'ish = male, or husband ; a man, in contrast with a woman. A great man in contrast with ordinary men (Psalm 49:2, where "low" are called the children of Adam, and the "high" = children of 'ish. So Psalm 62:9 and Isaiah 2:9; 5:15; 31:8). When God is spoken of as man, it is 'ish (Exodus 15:3. So Joshua 5:13. Daniel 9:21; 10:5; 12:6,7. Zechariah 1:8, etc.). Also, in such expressions as "man of God", "man of understanding", etc. In the early chapters of Genesis we have it in chapters 3:22,24 and 4:1.

   Translated in Septuagint 1,083 times by Greek: aner (aner), Latin vir, and only 450 by Greek: anthropos (anthropos), Latin homo.

   It is rendered "husband" sixty-nine times, "person" twelve times, and once or twice each in thirty-nine different ways.

   III.  

'Enosh. First occurrence Genesis 6:4, men of name. Always in a bad sense (Isaiah 5:22; 45:14. Judges 18:25). Morally = depraved, and physically = frail, weak. It is from 'anash, to be sick, wretched, weak, and denotes inability, for strength, physically; and for good, morally (compare 2Samuel 12:15. Job 34:6. Jeremiah 15:18; 17:9; 30:12,15. Micah 1:9). Note the contrasts, Isaiah 2:11 and 17, "The lofty looks of man ('Adam) shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men ('Enosh) shall be bowed down" (compare Isaiah 13:12. Job 25:6. Psalms 8:4; 90:3; 144:3. Job 4:17; 10:5; 7:17. Daniel 4:16). Other instructive passages are Isaiah 8:1; 66:24. Ezekiel 24:17 (afflicted, or mourners. Compare Jeremiah 17:16, "day of man"). In 1Samuel 4:9 it is probably plural of 'Ish (so probably Genesis 18 and 19, where the indefinite plural must be interpreted by the context, because 'Adam would have denoted human, and 'Ish, males).
   It is rendered "man" 518 times, "certain" eleven times, and once or twice each in twenty-four other and different ways.

   IV.  

Geber. first occurrence in Genesis 6:4 1, mighty men, and denotes man in respect of his physical strength, as 'Enosh does in respect of the depravity of his nature. It is rendered "man" sixty-seven times, "mighty" twice, "man child" once, "every one" once. In the Septuagint rendered fourteen times Greek: anthropos (anthropos) and the rest by Greek: aner (aner).

   For illustrative passages see Exodus 10:11; 12:37. 1Samuel 16:18. 2Samuel 23:1. Numbers 24:3,15. 1Chronicles 26:12; 28:1. 2Chronicles 13:3. Ezra 4:21; 5:4,10; 6:8.

   V.  

Methim (plural) = adults as distinguished from children, and males as distinguished from females. Occurs Genesis 34:30. Deuteronomy 2:34; 3:6; 4:27; 26:5; 28:62; 33:6. 1Chronicles 16:19. Job 11:3,11; 19:19; 22:15; 24:12; 31:31. Psalm 17:14; 26:4; 105:12. Isaiah 3:25; 5:13; 41:14. Jeremiah 44:28.

NOTE
1 In Genesis 6:4, we have three out of the above four words: "daughters of men" (= daughters of [the man] 'Adam); "mighty men" = (geber); "men of renown" = Hebrew men ('Enosh) of name, that is to say, renowned for their moral depravity.


Gen 6:4
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.  (KJV)

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Is it OK for Christians to celebrate Christmas (and Easter) even though it has been Paganized?

Renamed and moved to here: Should true Christians celebrate Christmas and Easter?

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A Reader asks about the money system during the Tribulation


Answer:

     Hi.  I believe that at the end 'they' will place all commerce on a voucher system wherein all will have an account.  And that any purchases and/or salaries are placed directly into this account.  In this manner they will be able to track every consumer (person).  Even today most employers are going to direct-deposit with the paychecks; and most creditors offer automatic billing wherein they directly charge your Bank Account monthly.  So your paycheck goes into the bank and your bills are paid without you doing anything, it is all automated.  Need cash?  Put your card into the ATM machine and access your account 24hrs a day, 365 days a year, from most anywhere in the world.  We are much more global financially than we realize.

     Also, by this computerized system they will be able to cut-off anyone that they wish from being able to buy or sell―they will just suspend their account.  They will also know the location of that purchase, should they want to arrest that person.  They will also be able to track the geographical location where you are spending your credits.  In this manner they know what store, restaurant, coffee shop, or parking garage to find you at.

     They can do this now with credit cards (and bank Debit cards that were instituted to get all people on-board, even the poor and credit-less).  In other words, those who could never get a credit card can get a bank card which allows them to use their savings or checking account as they would a credit card, except they must have the funds in the account at the time of purchase, where with a credit card you are actually borrowing the money at usury (interest).

     They will be able to 'legally' cutoff anyone they wish by simply saying that that person is wanted by the Police, or whatnot, for whatever trumped-up charge they desire.  The making of new laws is endless, and once a new law is established, it is enforceable with the full arm of the police. 

     For instance, in England, Canada, Australia today you cannot so-called deny the Holocaust under penalty of incarceration under the ever-widening so-called "Hate Crime Legislation."  So that what you have is that the Jews grossly exaggerated the Holocaust story (Click E-Book link at right), made it a law that you must believe the lie, and then set an apparatus in place where if you doubt the scope of the so-called Holocaust, you are eligible for 3-5 years in prison for committing the so-called hate crime of "Holocaust Denial."  This they do to secure their war-reparations payments.  It was always only about $$$ and a Nation State of Israel in Palestine (which both things they acquired after, and because of,  WWII). 

     Is it really that inconceivable, that in the future, to believe in the God, the Bible, and Jesus Christ, that you will be legislated against and incarcerated for?  No, it is not at all inconceivable.  For God, the Bible, and Jesus Christ, are quite 'intolerant' by today's standards.  And "we" can't have intolerance in satan's New World Order, now can we?

     The masses will go along with this system because the lower classes will be given free credits as part of some social program.  So naturally they will participate because they will getting this welfare payment.  Once the majority are participating it is a small step to make it mandatory for 'efficiency's sake.'

      Regarding the mark of the beast, the jury is still out on this one for me.  Whatever it is, none will be able to buy or sell without it.  The possibilities are many.  But it won't be some overt satanic symbol (not at the first, at least) for they want all to get on board with it, and many won't take a 666 tattoo or whatnot.

 

 

 

 

Paying for drinks with
wave of the hand

Club-goers in Spain get implanted chips for ID, payment purposes


April 14, 2004
By Sherrie Gossett
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

  Being recognized has never been easier for VIP patrons of the Baja Beach Club in Barcelona, Spain.

  Like a scene out of a science-fiction movie, all it takes is a syringe-injected microchip implant for the beautiful men and women of the nightclub scene to breeze past a "reader" that recognizes their identity, credit balance and even automatically opens doors to exclusive areas of the club for them. ....

 

 

 

     This is the problem that Applied Technologies is having getting their implant-chips accepted―too many people equate it with the Biblical mark of the beast.  They are addressing this by slowly phasing it in, first in pets, then high-profile people, then medical emergency cases, children susceptible to kidnapping, etc.  In an upscale club in Spain it is even trendy to have an implant chip.

     So, to be one of the "beautiful people" you need to get chipped.  People clearly are being desensitized to being chipped (implanted with sensors, transmitters, and location beacons) so that all will take this type implant. 

     When it is imposed mandatory, all true Christians will know the mark of the beast (whatever it may be) for what it is, thus they will resist and by that they will be located and arrested and executed summarily in secret camps unknown to the masses of humanity (who wouldn't care anyway, for by then Christians will have been vilified and called intolerant exclusivist hate-mongers).

     Many Christians will be located and arrested by the 'informer system,' of which we saw just a little taste of in the Patriot Act where people (mail clerks, etc.) were encouraged to report anyone 'suspicious' activity regarding Arab Terrorists.  In the end-time the Christians will be the 'terrorists' that need to be 'caught' for the 'good' of society.  If they offer to credit the account of informers, many will turn in the 'archaic,' 'out of step,' Christians to authorities for reeducation (really extermination at secret tribunals).  Can anyone say "mark of the beast?"  "...and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.  And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads" (Rev 13:15b-16).

     Just keep your eyes open and be able to change your perceptions and suspicions as fast as 'they' change their tactics.  And they are ever-changing, trying to find a chink in the armor of the world's citizenry, in order to bring civilization to it's knees before satan.

     The second (last) part of the Tribulation:

Rev 13:10-18
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.  KJV

God bless the study of His Word, in Jesus Christ' name!
Nick Goggin

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Jehovah's Witnesses New World Translation Bible translation of John 1:1: "the Word was a god"


 

Dan asks:

"...I have a Jehovah's Witness friend ... He quoted Psalm 82 verse 6 as a scripture which means man has the potential to become a "god" After reading this, I had no counter to his argument though.  What do you think of this?"


Answer:

     Well, the Jehovah's Witnesses use as their Bible the corrupt New World Translation.  In this translation John 1:1 says that "the Word became a  god", instead of as in the King James Bible "the Word was God". 

 

King James Version (KJV) Bible translation:
John 1:1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (KJV)

New World Translation (NWT) 'Bible' translation:
John 1:1-51
1 In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. (NWT) 
Source: NWT on-line; official website of the Jehovah's Witnesses (Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society)

     Likewise with your above mentioned Scripture (Psms 82:6) wherein the Jehovah's Witnesses Bible quotes it as "man has the potential to become a "god"," the King James says "Ye are gods".  There is a difference.  The word used here for "god" is elohiym which in another place (Psm 8:5) is translated to "angels"   

Ps 8:4-5
4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels [elohiym] , and hast crowned him with glory and honour.  (KJV)

Ps 82:6
6 I have said, Ye are gods [elohiym] ; and all of you are children of the most High.  (KJV)

gods: Hebrew word #430  'elohiym (el-o-heem'); plural of 433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: KJV-- angels, X exceeding, God (gods)- dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.

     Below are other places that illustrate thatthe Hebrew word elohiym (God or god) is not always speaking of the One true God Yehovah (YHVH):

Exod 22:28
28 Thou shalt not revile the gods [elohiym] , nor curse the ruler of thy people. (KJV)

Ps 82:1
1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods [elohiym].  (KJV)

Gen 30:8
8 And Rachel said, With great [elohiym] wrestlings have I wrestled with my sister, and I have prevailed: and she called his name Naphtali. (KJV)

Gen 31:30
30 And now, though thou wouldest needs be gone, because thou sore longedst after thy father's house, yet wherefore hast thou stolen my gods? [elohiym]  (KJV)

Exod 12:12
12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods  [elohiym] of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD [Yehovah] . (KJV)

Exod 20:23
23 Ye shall not make with me gods [elohiym]  of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods [elohiym]  of gold. (KJV)

Exod 22:8
8 If the thief be not found, then the master of the house shall be brought unto the judges [elohiym] , to see whether he have put his hand unto his neighbour's goods. (KJV)

Exod 22:20
20 He that sacrificeth unto any god [elohiym] , save unto the LORD [Yehovah only, he shall be utterly destroyed. (KJV)

IKing 11:5
5 For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess [elohiym]  of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. (KJV)

Now getting back to our Scripture in question, i.e.,

Ps 82:6
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.  (KJV)

We see Jesus explain this Old Testament Scripture; going to the New Testament:

John 10:34-35
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods [no article] , unto whom the word of God [has the article] came, and the scripture cannot be broken;  (KJV)

     Jesus uses the Greek article (the) with the second word "God" in the Scripture showing that when He said that we were ‘gods" that were not the same as THE God. The Strong's dictionary brings forth the importance of the Greek article, observe:

God: Greek word #2316  theos (theh'-os); of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with NT:3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very:KJV -  exceeding, God, god [-ly, -ward].

The Greek word (New Testament) #3588 is the article which does not always appear in the English translation but is so very important in the Greek. 

(The definite article): Greek word #3588  ho (ho); including the feminine he (hay); and the neuter to (to); in all their inflections; the def. article; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom): KJV - the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc.

PS: Unlike the English, the Greek has no such thing as an INdefinite article (a, an); so don't let the term "definite article" confuse you in that regard; the ‘article' in the Greek IS ALWAYS the ‘definite article' (the, that, this)―they are one in the same.

In the English the indefinite article is rendered as: "god" (a god).
              "           definite article is rendered as: "God" (The God).

So that in the Greek, the lack of an article CONSTITUTES an indefinite article statement.  Observe:

In the Greek the 'indefinite article idea' is rendered as: "theos" (a god).
              "           definite article is rendered as: "
ho Theos" (The God).

Many (most) times the 'article' is exhibited in the English language as a capitalization of the word, in the Greek New Testament Manuscripts there are no capital letters in the Greek regarding the indication of the article, the manuscripts are all in the same case (upper or lower) depending on the age of the manuscripts (In fact, one classification of the GREEK Bible manuscripts are called the "unicals" because they are all in uppercase letters; so thus is the method and need for the Greek article to show emphasis and to set aside certain words and ideas.)

     So an analogy in our modern day English would be that if I write of a "husband" in general I would write it in English as "husband."  But if I were referring to a specific woman's husband, I might illustrate that by placing it in capitalization, or also by placing a demonstrative before it.  Observe:

"Many husbands love their wives, but Sally loves only her husband.  The men, the husbands of the Church Board, asked Mary, "Where is your beloved, your Husband?"

     In the above, in English, I relayed the fact that this particular man, this Husband of Mary's, was apart from all other husbands on the earth, by using the word "her" and "your" before the word husband.  Well, the Greek language has different rules, in the Greek the above paragraph might look something like this transliterated:

"Many husband love wive, but Sally love the [article] husband.  men, husband church board asked Mary, "Where beloved, the [article] Husband?"

     Ya know what I am trying to say?  I hope that helps.

God bless the study of His Word, in Jesus Christ' name!
Nick Goggin

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 Are Kenites real?  Where are they today?


A Reader asks a question about the Kenites:

(Note: She first wrote-in doubting that the Kenite ever existed; and if they did, that they certainly exist no more.  She changed her mind on that, and wrote back saying/asking):

"O.K., it's true.  What are we supposed to DO about it?  I believe the
Scriptures teach that we are to allow the tares to grow with the wheat
undisturbed until the end harvest when the ANGELS will gather, & bind
them. As Christians aren't we to know who they are, but leave them
alone? Else how can the Scriptures be fulfilled? Just wondering if I
have it right or need to rethink the whole matter?"


ANSWER:

     Well, what have I ever said to do to them (Kenites), except to know that they do in fact exist?  Israel of old was told to kill them all, but they disobeyed God, and some of them instead mated with the Kenite, forever destroying their descendants from out of Israel, God's beloved.  That is how the line got into a portion of Israel.  It was they, at the head of the Sanhedrin that killed Christ; it is they, at the end of the world, that shall foment the Great Tribulation.  Who did you think that it was that the heads the seven global control regions, and the ten Kingdoms in Revelation chapter thirteen were?  Christians?  Hardy! 

     Nothing changes; Cain killed Able, Cain's descendants killed Christ, and their descendants shall kill Christians in the Tribulation (they also killed many other Christians at many other times in the world's history, but it is not for us here to go into that lengthy subject).  But why is this so hard to reason for so many Christians today?  They believe that evil exists, but yet they cannot believe that an evil seed exists, though their Bibles tell them so "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel"  (Gen 3:15).  But they believe that a holy seed exists―this they errantly figure to be the so-called modern day Jews.  Go figure!  The irony! 

     I believe that while the Kenite always traveled close to Israel, that it was during the Babylonian Captivity that the Kenite firmly entrenched itself into Judah by intermarriages.  Also, it was at that time (circa 500 B.C.) that the Jewish Babylonian Talmud first started to be codified.  This Talmud now eclipses the Old Testament Hebrew Scriptures for the majority of modern-day global Jewry (a notable exception is the negro Ethiopian Jews, who reject Talmud and stick to only the Old Testament Hebrew scriptures―and for this of course, modern-day Jewry rejects them, and will not ordain them nor allow them to officiate at weddings, funerals, etc.).  To see the sheer and utter spiritual and moral depravity of the Jewish Babylonian Talmud, see our: THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TALMUD:  A Documented Exposé of Jewish Supremacist Hate Literature.  (Kids under 18, don't you even look at their "holy" book, for the profaneness of it.)

     Is all of this antiSemitic?  Do be so ridiculous and shallow; see our: WBSG's position on AntiSemitism, so-called.  While the Kenite is foremost a Jew, yes, but he is a Satanist Jew; and remember that all Jews are not Kenites.  The Kenite hides within Jewry, but is a separate people.  It was the Kenite that sacrificed the Jews in WWII Europe, and many Jews are waking up to this fact.  That fact being that International Jewry abandoned the Jews in Europe to Hitler, and even financed Hitler; and when Hitler had offered to ransom the entirety of European Jewry out of Europe for a paltry 20 million dollars―the rich International Jews rejected the offer, because, in their own words:
 

The below, from the Zionist Jewish Agency Executive Offices in Switzerland, during WWII, was in reply to the call of the Jewish Rescue Committee in Czechoslovakia for help, with documentary evidence furnished, concerning the fate of millions of Jewish people in Nazi occupied Europe.

We are writing to remind you of the one factor of which you must never lose sight: that ultimately, the Allies will win the war [WWII].  After their victory, territorial boundaries will be reshaped as they were after the First World War.

       Then, the way will be clear for our purpose at this time, with the war drawing to a close, we must do everything in our power to change Eretz Yisroel to Medinat Yisrael and many steps have already been taken in this regard.  Therefore, we must turn a deaf ear to the pleas and cries emanating from Eastern Europe.  Remember this: all the allies have suffered many losses, and if we also do not offer human sacrifices, how can we gain the right to sit at the conference table when the territorial boundaries are reshaped?

     Accordingly, it is foolhardy and brazen for us to negotiate in terms of money or supplies in exchange for Jewish lives.  How dare we ask of the allied powers to barter money for lives while they are sustaining heavy casualties daily?  So, insofar as the masses are concerned: RAK B'DAM TIHJE LANU HAAREZ, (Eretz Yisroel [land of Israel] will be ours only by paying with blood), but as far as our immediate circle is concerned, ATEM TAJLU [you escape].  The messenger bearing this letter will supply you with funds for this purpose. 

MIN HAMETZAR (p. 92) by Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L. Dean of
Nitra Yeshiva. The excerpt is a literal translation of the letter
the Jewish Rescue Committee in Czechoslovakia received
from the Zionist Jewish Agency Executive
Offices in Switzerland.


     See the source of the above quotation from our website article: The Unthinkable: Truth Suppressed!  Zionists Jews sacrifice WW II European Jews for Palestinian Homeland, and JEWS NOT ZIONISTS WEBSITE (Please don't get your theology there, it will kill your soul.)

     So we see that all Jews are not the same people; and to speek out about the Zionists or the Kenites is not to speak against Mr. & Mrs. average everyday "Jew."  The average Jew s the victim of the Kenite, though the Kenite identifies himself as a Jew.  Confusing?  It really isn't.  It is the same model like their (Kenite's) Satanic Illuminati, Illuminati hid within Free Masonry, separate and apart; just like the Kenites hide within Jewry separate and apart; just like they did in the Old Testament with Israel: "And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab." (1 Chron 2:55).

     And don't worry about people hurting the Kenite, the Kenite shall (and always has) hurt the peoples of God.  God saw to it that they would always make it through; in the beginning He set a mark upon Cain that none could kill him.  In the end satan shall require God's people to take a mark of the beast―is this some kind of mocking tit-for-tat?  I don't know.

     Do you know who the Kenite is?

     You should, for he has a very active part in your life; you are enslaved to him and do not even perceive it.  He  ultimately holds the note on your car and home; he sets the price for your food and oil; the interest rates for your money which you let him use to make his money.  He makes your laws, runs your country's war machine; he makes Presidents, and "pro-choice" laws; he stirs racial animosity, he is the guarantor on your insurance policies, he's also your taxer.  He tells you what is acceptable for you to think and say, and then sets up the apparatus (Political Correctness, 'hate' speech laws, etc.) to condemn and punish you when you disobey.

     There is nothing in your life that he does not control.  He corrupts your churches, he takes away your crosses from government lands that you fund, he takes God out of your schools and inserts 'alternative lifestyle' reeducation in His place.  He is your master and yet he is invisible.  He has muddled your history books, omitted the true and inserted lies.  He drew the Christian nations into war against each other in the Worlds Wars.  He foments all wars and revolutions―he is above all a revolutionary―for his credo is, "Destroy everything; whatever is, is wrong."

"...This second movement aims for the establishment of a new racial domination of the world...the moving spirits in the second scheme are Jewish radicals. Within the ranks of Communism is a group of this party, but it does not stop there. To its leaders Communism is only an incident. They are ready to use the Islamic revolt, hatred by the Central Empire of England, Japan's designs on India and commercial rivalries between America and Japan. As any movement of world revolution must be, this is primarily anti‑Anglo‑Saxon...The organization of the world Jewish radical movement has been perfected in almost every land." The Chicago Tribune, June 19, 1920.

     He poisons your children with unsafe (and unnecessary) drugs and inoculations, he poisons (sedates/makes docile) you with fluoride in your water, emasculates your men with feminizing hormones in your plastic food containers and masculinizes your women with other chemicals.  He was behind the women's movement, the racial integration laws, the Social Welfare System―he is above all a Marxist Communist. 

"Some call it Marxism ― I call it Judaism." The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935.

     And he is not done with you.  His motto is, "Out of chaos, order."  Thus he must destroy your world so that his may rise from it's ashes: "Pluralistic chaos, out of which the Phoenix of the New World ORDER can arise. Resurrected from the ashes of the Mysteries of the past.".  He above all promotes social reforms, for they all play into his hand of destroying everything that was once holy, true, and good.

     He is the friend of the gay, the lawless, the Atheist, the criminal; he shall make your world theirs.  He is the enemy of Christianity, God, and Jesus Christ; he seeks to make that world his own and his god satan's.  He attacks every tenant of your Christian Bible, yet he is esteemed as the chosen of God by the ignorant and the indifferent.  The Bible paints a very different picture of these people and their great-ancestor satan, the serpent of old.

Gen 3:14-15
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.  (KJV)

     The Kenite is everything spiritually and morally vile.  Don't weep for his safety, he wants you dead.  And in the end, for a little while, his god and father Lucifer shall rule the world―then Christian beware!  You have absolutely not seen anything yet by comparison.

Matt 24:21-22
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.  (KJV)

     You ask if we are not to harm or hinder them?  You couldn't, he already possesses you, what can the slave do to the master?  Only God can set things strait, and He shall at the appointed time.

     Just open your eyes and try to protect yourself until the time.  And pray.  Study the Word and pray.

God bless the study of His Word, in Jesus Christ' name!
Nick Goggin

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Does the book of Esther belong in the Bible?


Tasha writes:

"I had a couple of questions to ask concerning this book [Esther], I was actually kind of disturbed when I finished reading it."

     Hello.  As many know, the name of "God" or "Lord" does not appear even one time in the book of Esther.  And I reject the Companion Bible's assertion that it is hidden in acrostics―seems a little too convenient (made up after the fact?) and Kabalistic to me.  Especially as there is no rhyme nor reason as to how the so-called acrostics are located.  It is as though someone just looked through the book for a couple of instances where certain words followed one another.  Remember that Bullinger was a friend of the converted Jew Ginsburg, and that Ginsburg was studied in the Cabbala (Kabbalah).  This type of counting and letter sequencing seems very Kabalistic.  I just don't like the feel of it, at all; it seems eerily reminiscent of the "Bible Code" type spurious books.  "...no lie is of the truth" (1 John 2:21b).

     Esther is a curious book, indeed.  The Shepherd's Chapel has a 4-tape series on the book of Esther.  It never appears on TV because of the explosive nature of the info on the book.  You can call or write the Chapel and ask for the series on by name and they will send it to you.  It is 4 tapes at $4.00 each, and maybe give three or four dollars donation to cover shipping.  It is well worth the $20.00, as he covers Esther verse by verse and shows that the Kings and the people named in Esther didn't exist when compared to other contemporary Bible characters in the book of Daniel and the book of Ezra which were from the same time frame.

     He does not say that the book shouldn't be in the Bible, but rather he seems to allude to it showing the method of the Kenite (Though I don't speak for the man.  You get the tapes and come to your own conclusion.)  Bullinger, in his Companion Bible footnotes, points out many/most of these conflictions, though he tends to be an apologist for them.  It seems that Bullinger and myself have come to different conclusions regarding the purpose of the book of Esther.

     I myself am not so sure that it is a reliable book in that it contains inaccuracies; but I am reluctant to say that it doesn't belong in the Bible because of the implications of such a thing in the minds of some who would not understand.  This is not to say that God did not allow this book into the Bible, just that perhaps He did not Author it's words or sanction what it taught therein. 

     Let me explain.  In Genesis chapter three, we see satan utter lies:

Gen 3:4-5
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.  KJV

     Now, if someone were to say that what satan said in Genesis 3:4-5 above, has to be true because it is in the Bible; they would be missing the point.  God allowed satan's lies in Gen 3:4-5 into the Bible TO SHOW US HOW SATAN OPERATES.  We see this same phenomenon when satan misquotes Scripture to Christ in the wilderness, in the Gospels.  Does that mean that the error is chargeable to God or His Bible?  No, it just means that God is relaying what was said by another. 

     God never claims to speak in the book of Esther.  So what is said, when wrong, is not chargeable to God.  We see something along these lines where God allows a lying spirit to be sent to reprobate men who refuse the truth from the Holy Spirit of God (1st Kings 22:22-23, 1st Chron 18:21-22).  God will allow one to believe a lie if they reject the truth.  Does not the New Testament even tell us so: "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." (2 Thess 2:11-12); you see the guilt all over those who God was stirred to send delusion.  These are not innocent Bible students who just "didn't get it," they did not believe the truth of God; and worse, they amused themselves in vain fables (perhaps leading others astray with them?).  This will most likely be a common event during the Tribulation, with the know-it-alls and the self-righteous. 

     So too did God, I believe, allow the Jew's lies into the Bible, in the form of the book of Esther; to show how they operate.  So, while what is in this book (Esther) may not be true history, it is in there to teach us what they had done (and have done all down through time).  What do I mean "have done all through time?"  I am sure that you have been taught that the poor Jews were just harassed and attacked by Germany for no apparent reason, right?  Well there was an apparent reason for Germany to want to expel the Jews from her border, as so very many other European countries had expelled them at one time or another.  That was Hitler's Final Solution, deportation, not extermination).  Many people are unaware that between 250 A.D. and 1948 A.D., there were 108 Jewish Expulsions (Deportations) from various countries, mostly from Europe.  Click on the picture at right, for full-size list of these 108 expulsions. 

     The Holocaust exaggeration, and the outright re-written history of the matter, is one glaring modern-day example.  Many people do not know that the so-called six-million lie was used as justification for the slaughter of millions of Germans at the close of the war.  Type "Dresden" into your search engine for a taste of Jewish vengeance and bloodlust.

     Dresden was a German city which was not a military target; had no industry, war materials or  otherwise; nor any garrisoned troops; it was a city full of German women and children war-refugees streaming to safety near the end of the war.  At the insistence of the International Jews, the Allies firebombed the entire city of Dresden, killing most all the German women and children in the inferno (holocaust).  Yes, Virginia, the Jews (the International ones) wielded much power in WWII, and even brought that war about for their own designs.  Notice the date on the above facsimile of the Daily Express newspaper Front-page of March, 24, 1933, heralding the declaration of economic war upon Germany by International Jewry; This was BEFORE World War Two!)

     How amazingly absurd this must sound to the reader who has been brainwashed by rewritten history and the Anti-Semitism bogey and myth.  For a quick little (real) history of WWI and WWII, especially see: A Jewish Defector Warns America by Benjamin H. Freedman.  Observe the dates on the below quotes from the annals leading up to the world's second great war, World War II, which was fought from 1939-1945:

"...Jabotinsky insisted that all energies be expended to force the Congress to join the boycott movement [the boycott movement was the subject of the above newspaper headline].  Nothing less than a 'merciless fight' would be acceptable, cried Jabotinsky.  'The present Congress is duty bound to put the Jewish problem in Germany before the entire world...(We [Jews] must) destroy, destroy, destroy them, not only with the boycott, but politically, supporting all existing forces against them to isolate Germany from the civilized world...our enemy [Germany] must be destroyed." ― Speech by Vladimir Jabotinsky, a Polish Jew, on June 16, 1933.

"The fight against Germany has now been waged for months by every Jewish community, on every conference, in all labor unions and by every single Jew in the world.  There are reasons for the assumption that our share in this fight is of general importance.  We shall start a spiritual and material war of the whole world against Germany.  Germany is striving to become once again a great nation, and to recover her lost territories as well as her colonies.  But our Jewish interests call for the complete destruction of Germany..."  ― Valadimir Jabotinsky, in Mascha Rjetsch, January, 1934. 

"Germany is the enemy of Judaism and must be pursued with deadly hatred.  The goal of Judaism of today is:  a merciless campaign against all German peoples and the complete destruction of the nation.  We demand a complete blockade of trade, the importation of raw materials stopped, and retaliation towards every German, woman and child." ― Jewish professor A. Kulischer, October, 1937.

"The millions of Jews who live in America, England and France, North and South Africa, and, not to forget those in Palestine, are determined to bring the war of annihilation against Germany to its final end."  ― [The Jewish newspaper] Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederland, September 13, 1939.

"Kill the Germans, wherever you find them! Every German is our moral enemy.  Have no mercy on women, children, or the aged! Kill every German―wipe them out!" ― Llya Ehrenburg [Jewish], Glaser, p. 111. (undated).

"...In Germany the Jews occupy the principal riles and are first-rate revolutionaries.  They are writers, philosophers, poets, orators, publicists, and bankers, and on their heads and in their hearts all the weight of ancient ignominy!  They will one day be terrible for Germany...probably followed by a morrow terrible for them." ― Rougeyron, 1861; Metternich, 1849; "The Trail of the Serpent," Inquire Within, Miss Stoddard, p. 93.

     Also during the final moments of WWII (in Germany), a Russian General (Jewish) in the advancing Russian Red army, said upon the final assault of the German homeland, something to the effect of "The German Hag is in for a rough night," or words to that effect. [sorry, can't locate the exact quote at this moment―but I have it in some book or other.]  A "hag" is a derogatory word for a women.  What he meant was that the Jewish controlled Russian Red Army was going to rape it's way through Germany.  And they did.  Also, remember that millions ended up in the Russian (Jewish run) Gulags in Siberia, never to be seen alive again.

     Typical Jewish hate-slaughter, just like the book of Esther illustrates.  Coincidence?  Or was this the reason that God allowed the book of Esther into the Old Testament?  Even though that in not even one place in the book of Esther do we see it written "Thus saith the Lord, ..." or "God did this, or God did that...," or, "Esther and Mordecia prayed to God and the Lord said/did..."  Nothing!  No reference to God at all.  No you can see why the Jews who set the cannon and who preserved the writings, needed to "find" the name of God in the book of Esther by "acrostic."  Sorry, God doesn't operate like that. 

     God was not the actor in the book of Esther, He was not influencing the events; nor was He once consulted by the Jews in the book when things looked bleak for Jewry.  Why do you think that that is?  It is because by then, the so-called Jews hated God and turned their backs on Him.  And when He would come in the flesh as Jesus Christ, some 400 years later, they would go on to kill Him. 

     Nowhere in the book itself does it claim that God had any hand in the 'events' of the book of Esther.  It was written by Jews who had turned their back on God because He let the Temple fall and Judah be taken into captivity.  It was this spirit and mindset that allowed, at this precise time in history, for the Jews to begin compiling their Babylonian Talmud, which is a mirror-image opposite of the Hebrew Old Testament.  They had by this time completely renounced God.  God allowed their spurious writing (Esther) to be, for all time, a testament to their sin and their manner.  Yet foolish Christians today, believing the lies about the so-called modern day Jews being the "chosen of God," cleave to the Jew as their "brother in faith."  Fools!  Harsh word?  No, true.  The modern day Jew and his corrupt religion Judaism is against all that God had intended from any people of His who would be "called by His name" (Christians are named after Christ, who was God in the flesh.  Thus, Christians are those that are called by God's name).

     An earlier example of Purim type murder, slaughter, and intrigue, would be Jew's Russian Bolshevik Revolution, where they, in the Jewish-led overthrow, after seizing control of the government through a Jew-fomented revolution; systematically exterminated some 60-100 million Christians―all in the name of the so-called Anti-Semitism bogey man.  What a perfect parallel to what they say happened in the book of Esther.  Could it be that the book of Esther was fabricated to cover-up the slaughter of so many non-Jews in Medio-Persia?  God only knows.
 

...The Russian Author, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, relates that some sixty-million "real Russians" have been murdered since the Bolshevik Revolution at the hands of the Yiddish [Jewish] revolutionaries.

WHO IS ESAU-EDOM?  by Charles A. Weisman; pg. 104.

       Is it a coincidence that the same type of false-AntiSemism charges, which led to the slaughter of untold numbers of non-Jew souls, by the Jews in the book of Esther, was repeated all down through history; and that God was warning us of their tactics? 

     Even today the Jews are strengthening their hand world-wide with draconian so-called AntiSemitism laws and bizarre so-called hate-speech laws, which make the very thought of criticizing a Jew―a crime punishable (now) by imprisonment.  In 1917 Russia―as millions of once-Christian Russians found out―the punishment for perceived or contrived AntiSemitism was a single bullet to the base of the skull in your own front-yard, in front of your own family (if they weren't also exterminated with you).  It appears from Scripture, that during the Tribulation, beheading is to be the new Jewish bullet to the base of the skull.
 
   
 

"Step by step, I have arrived at the conviction that the aims of [Jewish birthed] Communism in Europe are sinister and fatal.  At the Nuremberg Trials, I, together with my Russian colleague, condemned Nazi Aggression and Terror.  I believe now that Hitler and the German People did not want war.  But we, [England] declared war on Germany, intent on destroying it, in accordance with our principle of Balance of Power, and we were encouraged by the Americans [influential Jews] around Roosevelt.  We ignored Hitler's pleading, not to enter into war.  Now we are forced to realize that Hitler was right.  He offered us the co-operation of Germany: instead, since 1945, we have been facing the immense power of the Soviet Empire.  I feel ashamed and humiliated to see that the aims we accused Hitler of, are being relentless pursued now, only under a different label."

British Attorney General, Sir Hartle Shawcross, in a speech at Stourbridge, March 16/84 (AP).

   
   

     As one searches history, competently, and without Jewish subterfuge; he learns that everything that the Jews say is, or has been done to them, was in fact done by them to other non-Jewish peoples.  I guess they know the power of telling the lie first, so that the truth which contradicts it appears itself to be cover-up and lie.  They are genius, evil genius.

     Here is an illustration of the evil genius of the International Jewish mind:  If someone hits you in the head, but he runs to the world court and says that you hit him; then he is justified to hit you back―after all, you drew first blood.  So that, though you really never hit him at all, as you lay broken and prostrate on the ground: nobody calls him to task for destroying you.  In such manner was the once great Christian Nation Germany rendered prostrate, partitioned, and broken.  This type of evil genius creates an alternate 'reality' where the International Jew may extract retaliation upon the world, for what HE did to them.  Welcome to the reason for the Holocaust fantasies and gross exaggerations.  Were Jews killed in WWII?  A lot of people were killed in WWII, but only the Jews (as a collective race) were (disproportionately) rewarded for it. 

  Could this be the International Jewish mentality behind the 911 attacks?  Who knows; but there definitely is intrigue in the air regarding those attacks; I think that everybody can agree that something just isn't right with the whole affair.  We are not being told the whole truth.  So then we have to look at who is capable of pulling-off such a grand deception.

     History proves that from since Cain, till today, murder is in the "Jewish" heart (and NO, Virginia, the so-called Jews are not the Israel people of God, as found in the Old Testament).  They were murders from the beginning, and there is no truth in them.

John 8:44
44 Ye are of your father the devil , and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.  KJV

     "Oh! but you don't understand; Jesus was just having an antiSemitic moment," the wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked Judaized play-Christians of today would say.  These same would say that Jesus was only kidding, or was grossly unfair, when He said: "That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar." (Matt 23:35).  I do not hate my less-informed brethren in Christ; what you read in me is anger, not hate; and I certainly do get very upset at them for being so darn easy.  Perhaps they can't help it?  Well, perhaps; but a brother in Christ ought to at least tell them the truth.  What they do with that truth is up to them.  Seems that most simply roll over and go back to sleep.  They shall be rudely awakened in the Tribulation.

     Are they (the international Jews) gearing up for their final slaughter?  I believe so, it is called the Great Tribulation.  For those who have been lulled to sleep with dreams of peace, peace (when there shall be no peace), and those who cannot believe that Christians shall be martyred in the Great Tribulation, see our Scriptural Evidences That Christians Shall Die In The Great Tribulation.

     But anyway, there definitely are some problems with this book of Esther.

     For one, the people and places mentioned by the Author of Esther do not align with the same rulers, etc., mention by the contemporary Old Testament Authors of the books of Daniel and Ezra-Nehemiah.  (Once again, Pastor Murray's 4-tape set Esther Study covers all of these conflictions in great detail; why don't you call The Shepherd's Chapel and order a set from them?)

     Some examples are:

 

Some Inconsistencies between the book of Esther and the rest of the Old Testament

Esther Other Old Testament Books The Problem
Est 1:1 Dan 6:1 The number Provinces is off by seven in Esther.
Est 2:6 2 Kings 24:14-15
Jer 52:24-34
Dating in Esther is 133 years incorrect, compared to 2nd Kings and the book of Jeremiah.
Est 2:20 Ezra 1:1 Secrecy spoken of in Esther not necessary if emancipation occurred as found in Ezra.
Est 3:8 Est 1:1
 
Not necessary for Haman to describe the Jews, had they already received their emancipation, as found in Ezra.
Est 8:8 Est 3:12
(Internal contradiction)
The King Breaking his own unbreakable decree, with his own (another) unbreakable decree.  Not possible in this type of governmental system.
Est 8:17 Old Testament In Esther, Gentiles "became Jews"; in the Old Testament, Israel was by bloodline―father to son, to son, to son, etc.
Est 9:13 Est 9:6-7
(Internal contradiction)
Haman's ten sons killed twice.  Killed in battle in 9:6-7, and killed again on the gallows in 9:13.
Est 9:28 New Testament (and the entire rest of the Old Testament) Feast of Purim commanded to be kept by all Jews.  Nowhere in entire Bible do we see this feast.  Jesus, who kept all of God's feast days, did not observe Purim.

     There are more inconsistencies in the book Esther than the ones listed above; but the above should suffice in showing that there is a "problem" with Esther. 

     Perhaps the greatest "peculiarity" regarding the book of Esther is that the word "God" or "Lord" (or any Divine title) is not once found in the entire book!  Odd indeed, considering that in the book of Esther, the Nation was days away from total annihilation.  You'd think that one of the characters might have thought to pray to God, like Israel always had done in the Bible, when in dire straits.  But there is nothing, no mention of God; not even of a false god.

     Also, Esther, the Queen supposedly responsible for saving the entire Nation, is not even so much as mentioned in any other book of the Bible (notably, not in Daniel or Ezra, who were contemporary with Esther, if she ever existed).  Nor is the event that the book of Esther revolves around (the supposed attempted annihilation of the entire "Jewish" nation) even so much as hinted-at in the rest of the Bible. 

     In fact, when Jerusalem fell to the Babylonians (who would then go on to lose to the Medes and Persians―transferring control of the captives of Judah to Persia), when Judah (a portion of the tribes of Israel) was taken into Babylonian captivity, God said by the prophets of the Old Testament that it would be for only seventy years, and that they would be OK after they were released (God told them not to resist the Babylonians, but rather to go quietly into captivity for their punishment of God).  The author of the book of Esther knows of no such prophecies or promises of God, or he doesn't believe it.

     In fact, Judah (the Southern Hebrew Kingdom split from Israel) was treated quite well by the Medes and Persians in captivity, and were even freed under them.  The King of that Nation also allowed Judah (the remnant of part of Israel in captivity by the Babylonians) to return to Israel to rebuild the Temple.  Monies were given to the kingdom of Judah, from Persia, when she was released from captivity; and military protection as well was provided by the Persians.
 

  Epitaph 

    Could the book of Esther be nothing more than an early "holocaust" bogey (phantom/specter)?  We know that in World War ONE, the Jews claimed that six million were killed (there's that number again), then they quietly retracted the claim when they realized that (their) League of Nations was not going to take hold.  Their plans put in abeyance (i.e., not yet).

  The Jews also claimed that the Romans, at the destruction of the Temple in 70 A.D.,  killed "8 million Jewish children," by rolling them up in Torah Scrolls and burning them in the fire (Early holocaust fantasy?  "Holocaust" means to burn to consumption―"A sacrificial offering that is consumed entirely by flames." - The American Heritage® Dictionary]) 

     But there not eight (or six) million Jews on the entire planet in World War One, nor certainly in 70 A.D.  Nor, for that matter, were there six million Jews in Europe at the time of the German occupation and WWII.  This massive slaughter is somehow important for the Kabalistic Jews, so much so that they constantly, throughout the annals of history, have fabricated the story in one form or another. 

     Finally they got it ( the six-million story) to stick in World War Two*.  From this arose the United Nations, an International Jewish-controlled Global body.

*But see: Did Six Million Really Die?...The Truth


     The second mark of a Jewish fingerprint on the book of Esther is that it ordains (and originates) a Jewish holiday (Purim) that appears nowhere else in the Bible, neither in Old or New Testaments.  Purim is a terrible "holiday" that celebrates the murder of many many people by the Jews.  Nowhere in the entire Bible is the 'feast day' Purim mentioned, except in that book of Esther. 

     In the New Testament, Jesus observed all the Old Testament holidays and traditions (i.e., Passover, Circumcision, even Baptism which was after the Old Testament but before Christ), but He does not celebrate this so-called Purim feast (nor is any mention made of any such feast ANYWHERE else in the other 65 books of the Bible).  Why?  We know from Scripture that God always gives a second witness!  "..In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established." (2 Cor 13:1b)

     My opinion is that the book of Esther was written after even all of the Old Testament were completed (with the possible exception of the Book of Revelation).  When was the Old Testament Cannon closed (completed)?  When were all the Old Testament books arraigned into what we now call the Old Testament?  There is much disagreement on this.  Perhaps the answer shall never be fully known.  This confusion allows the book of Esther to be slipped in.  Was it slipped in?  I don't know sure enough to state it here now.  More research would be need to be done to find old manuscripts that contain the book of Esther and compare their dates.  I do not have that time presently.  Perhaps a Reader has the time?  Let us know what you discover.  It would be interesting to find the oldest example of the book of Esther, if the date of the manuscript can be confirmed―that is the hard part, as they didn't place the dates in when they copied the manuscripts.  Perhaps the answer lies with quotations of the early church fathers, for those are pretty well dated. 
 

Disagreement over the date of the fixing (setting) of the Old Testament Cannon (list of included books)

Eckhard Schnabel, History, Theology and the Biblical Canon: an Introduction to Basic Issues, Themelios 20.2 (1995): pgg. 16-24:

...There are no indications which force us to conclude that the OT canon was ‘fixed’ by a formal council or by a specific group claiming authority, although one could assume that the Sanhedrin, or the earlier gerousia, played an important role. Evidently somebody had to decide sometime which books were ‘holy’ and could be kept in the sacred archive of Scriptures in the temple....

...The Jamnia
[Council of Yavneh] hypothesis - and it was never more than that, despite the frequent references to it - has recently come under attack.  Main arguments against the traditional assumption are the following: (a) rabbinic discussions concerning some canonical books continued into the
second century (and in the case of Esther, even longer
)...

...One argument which has been advanced for the assumption that the OT canon was still
‘open’ in the first century AD is the Qumran evidence
[Dead Sea Scrolls] which has invigorated the discussion in recent years. The peculiar profile of the Psalms scroll 11QPS with its inclusion of several noncanonical (i.e. non-Masoretic) psalms is regarded by some scholars as evidence for an
alternative canonical text. Others have argued that the scroll was produced for liturgical usage and does not reflect canonical status.

"Canon of the Old Testament," Catholic En-cyclopedia, Volume III 1908:

Authors and Standards of Canonicity among the Jews

...points to authority as the final arbiter of what was Scriptural and what not. The so-called Council of Jamnia [Council of Yavneh] (c. A.D. 90) has reasonably been taken as having terminated the disputes between rival rabbinic schools concerning the canonicity of Canticles. So while the intuitive sense and increasingly reverent consciousness of the faithful element of Israel could, and presumably did, give a general impulse and direction to authority, we must conclude that it was the word of official authority which actually fixed the limits of the Hebrew Canon, and here, broadly speaking, the advanced and conservative exegetes meet on common ground.

     The Book of Esther is the writing of a defeated people (Jews, not Israel or Judah) who needed to create justification for their slaughters, and build national unity within their group, all huddled around the bogey (phantom) of supposed hatred against them.  Without an enemy, real, perceived, or fabricated, the Jews can have no justification for their actions.  And that includes what they are doing in Palestine today.  Though neither do the Palestinians have any right to the Holy land―it rightfully belongs to God's people―the Christians.  Christ Jesus shall reclaim it at the Second Advent; until then the International Jews shall control it and the Muslims shall die for it.

     Something is wrong with Purim.  Modern day Jews eat a holiday bread called Haman's Ears on this 'feast day' of Purim.  This represents cannibalism; and I won't even bring up the so-called blood libel with you now (human sacrifice).  Ok, I will; see; Jewish Ritual Murder, and observe that dried 'Gentile' (Christian) human blood was used in these Purim cakes (Haman's Ears) until very recently (and maybe still is in some countries).  No, I dare say, certainly is.  How can I say this? 

     Even today, among a very strict Hasidic Jewish sect, they practice Animal Sacrifice on the Day of Passover (and sometimes on Purim), in that they kill a chicken and sprinkle the blood upon themselves for atonement of sins.  This is a blasphemy to God, of the Blood of Jesus Christ, the Messiah of God (and one-time forever offering for sin).  The Jews are in great trouble with God, to put it mildly.  In the final days, the Jews shall reenact the Temple Blood Sacrifices, on the Temple Mount, Jerusalem, in a new Temple built for their false god antichrist.  They shall be the leaders who "worship devils" (Rev 9:20).  The Jews will seek to kill you if you do not worship their god satan (antichrist) "and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads" (Rev 20:4b)
 

Dead Sea Scrolls

The Biblical Scrolls

The Dead Sea Scrolls include more than 225 “biblical” manuscripts, about 215 of which were found at Qumran. Unfortunately, with a few exceptions (such as 1QIsaa and 11QPsa), almost all these manuscripts are in fragmentary form. Parts of every book of the Jewish and Protestant Old Testament are included, with the exception of Esther and Nehemiah. In addition, some other books now included in Roman Catholic Bibles were found at Qumran: Tobit....

― Begg, Flint & Ulrich, 1999, The Dead Sea Scrolls Bible; Introduction pg. xvi.

     Also, Esther is the only book wherein there were found no scraps or remains of in the Dead Sea Scrolls.  The Dead Sea Scrolls were written in 250 B.C. through A.D. 70.  (No scrap of Nehemiah was found either; however, in the Hebrew, the Old Testament books of Ezra and Nehemiah are ONE BOOK, and we have found remains of portions of Ezra in the Dead Sea Scrolls; so that would account for Nehemiah as well, as they are One book, not two.)  So that leaves Esther as the only Old Testament book not found, even in scraps, in the Dead Sea Scrolls.  Curious coincidence?  No, the book of Esther most likely wasn't even written until after the last of the Dead Sea Scrolls was copied/written, circa 68-70 A.D.

     You also asked:

"I wanted to know if the "Jews" it refers to are actually "Jews" of Judah or are they those which say they are Jews and are not (but are of the synagogue of satan)?"

     It is my opinion that they are spurious (fake).

     You asked:

"There is a verse in Esther that made no since to me, it is Esther 8:17, because it says that "... many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them."

     It does make sense when you look around you today.  The Jews strike fear into people.  For instance, many will read this and tell you that I am a Nazi or an antiSemite; so you see that the Jews control by fear.  For I am not an antiSemite nor a Nazi, I am a Christian.  But the truth that I write will be dismissed by many because of the "fear of the Jews."  For this very reason I suggest that you keep this to yourself until you can fully document it, for you will be accused of many terrible things if you go to your Sunday School class or your church Bible Study group and repeat this info without being able to back it up with facts (facts that, they, over the centuries, have sought out and destroyed).

     Why are people in fear of the Jews?  Aren't the Jews just benevolent poor little persecuted victims; that's what I learned in school and on television?  No, Virginia, the Jews are murderers, they are very powerful in the Earth, globally; they just pretend to be weak and persecuted as a cloak to hide their ravagings.  That is why everybody was in fear of them in the Bible―including Jesus Christ and the Apostles, whom the Jews went on to slaughter.  We also see that the early Christian Church was also hunted by the Jews to be exterminated.  Paul, before his conversion, when he was yet named Saul, persecuted the church for his Jewish Sanhedrin masters.  Contrary to popular misconception, Paul/Saul was not a Jew, He is was of Israel by the Tribe of Benjamin.  Paul speaks of himself as: "Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin , an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law [religion], a Pharisee [Pharisaism would go on to become modern-day Judaism];"  (Phil 3:5).
 

  "For Fear Of The Jews" 



       The non-Jewish people of Persia had to fear the Jews 

Esther 8:17
17 And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them.  KJV

       The non-Christian people of Jerusalem had to fear the Jews 

John 7:13
13 Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews.  KJV

       Joseph, a member of the Sanhedrin even had to fear the Jews 

John 19:38
38 And after this Joseph of Arimathaea, being a disciple of Jesus, but secretly for fear of the Jews, besought Pilate that he might take away the body of Jesus: and Pilate gave him leave. He came therefore, and took the body of Jesus.  KJV

       The Apostles had to fear the Jews 

John 20:19
19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.  KJV

       Jesus Himself had to fear Jewish murderers 

John 7:1
7:1 After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry , because the Jews sought to kill him.  KJV

       It is no coincidence that the Dead Sea Scrolls were in Jewish hands for 50 years before being released to the public.  They currently reside in the Rockefeller financed Shrine of the Book at the Israel Museum, Jerusalem, Israel (pictured at right).  They were released in the 1990's, but were discovered way back in the 1940's.  Today they can be purchased, translated into English, in the volume, The Dead Sea Scrolls Bible.  One can only wonder at what great Biblical finds that the Jews, having discovered or bought with their great wealth, have kept hidden from public view; and whether or not if any of the Dead Sea Scrolls were suppressed.  My bet is that many writings have been intentionally destroyed, suppressed, and withheld.  Though I have no evidence of this.  My suspicion is arose in that in the Dead Sea Scrolls we find nothing that is critical of the Jerusalem Jews, nor any mention of the execution of the Messiah of God, Jesus Christ―even though the Qumran community of "Jews" lasted until 68 A.D.―some 39 after Christ's Passion.  You'd think that they would have recorded the event, one way or the other; no?  After all, Jerusalem was only fourteen miles west of the Qumran community were the Scrolls were discovered, in the Dead Sea Caves on the northwest shore of the Dead Sea, at Qumran.   

     And to close this line of thought:  Why would the modern-day, self-styled, so-called Jews, who are so anti-God, bother to invest time, money, and intrigue to uncover hidden ancient Hebrew writings?  An$wer: Because there is the little matter of the hidden Temple riches, as well as the possible location of the Ark of the Covenant and the original Temple Vessels (the Table of Shewbread, Candlesticks, snuffers, etc., and perhaps even the very Altar of God itself), which they want to roll out when their messiah antichrist (satan) arrives.

     You asked:

"Now I know that you cannot simply choose to become a Jew (of Judah). So is it possible that these people it speaks of might not be actual Jews, but the Jew as in a Jew of today? "

     Amen!  Yep, you got it right.

      You asked:

"Also my next question was: The Jews were going to be killed and they grew terribly upset, but then Esther was able to get the king to recall what he had decreed. I understood that, but then why did the Jews rise up against these people and kill them? Was it because some of those of that city still had intent of killing the Jews? Or did they (the Jews) rise up and slaughter them because they were angry at them?"

     My opinion is that the Jews were never threatened, that they made up the impending slaughter so that they could carry out their own slaughter, and hide it as a defensive action.  Or they made up the story afterwards to justify their treachery.  Or maybe it was just Jewish lore, to instill racial unity and the community outrage that holds the hateful Jews together, that somehow got included in the Hebrew Bible.  While modern day (post-Christ) Jews had no hand in writing the Sacred Scriptures, they did decide which books would be included in the Old Testament Cannon (the list of approved and accepted books included in the volume).

     And let's not forget the gist of the book of Esther, she was not exactly a virtuous woman; she was a liar and a willing (unmarried) sex-partner for the King; who doing so well, was made Queen.  How anyone could hold her up as an example is beyond me!

     You said:

"Well I believe that is it. Thank you for your time. I look forward to seeing your opinion on these things! I hope I made some sort of since in this email. Thanks again so much for your time!"

     You are very welcome.  My suggestion is that you get a firm understanding of the Jewish issue before you go public with it, for you will be challenged and slandered.  Fully investigate it for yourself, and then base your opinion on your research.

     So, in closing, the book of Esther belongs in the Bible because it is there.  God did not author the book of Esther; the book is a warning and a type of what has come after it, and what shall come in the end.  God knew that we would pick up on the inconsistencies in the book, and take a different look at it.  Every book belongs among the sixty-six books of the Bible.  God Divinely preserved the book of Esther since it's inception into the Old Testament cannon (circa 6th century A.D.).  It is a very valuable book, as you can see from this study, in warning and preparing God's people (the Christian) to what shall come in MYSTERY BABYLON (the world under the Great Tribulation of antichrist).

     Some other studies that will help are:

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God bless the study of His Word, in Jesus Christ' name!
Nick Goggin

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How can God speak to Jesus if they are One?

 

A Reader asks:

"...Yet on the cross, Jesus cried out, "Father, Father, why have You forsaken Me?"   Whom was Jesus addressing?"


Answer:

     Hello.  He was addressing no one, He was quoting Scripture.  God didn't forsake Jesus neither was Jesus implying so.  Observe:

Matt 27:46
46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?  (KJV)

Ps 22:1
1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?  (KJV)

     Psalm 22 is the prophecy of Jesus Christ.  Jesus fulfilled the prophecy.  Jesus was teaching from the cross that He was the One which was prophesied to come.

     But there are other Scriptures where Jesus talks to God (at the raising of Lazarus, in the Garden of Gethsemane, etc.), and I know that it is difficult for us to understand how this could be if He was God.  But see our, The Holy Spirit & The Holy Trinity.

     Understand that Jesus was God in the flesh, i.e., when God is in the flesh, He is Jesus Christ.  It was Jesus that Jacob wrestled with in Genesis.  Melchisedec was Jesus; Jesus was in the fiery furnace in the book of Daniel with the three Hebrews.

     In the end when all flesh is done away with, God shall be One and be directly with us as He was in the Garden of Eden with Adam:


1 Cor 15:23-28
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.  (KJV)

Rev 21:3-4
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.  (KJV)


     You also asked:

"Whose voice is this?  Please explain, thank you:  'And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.'"

God's voice, just like in:

Matt 17:4-6
4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. (KJV)

     I know that it is difficult to understand how God could speak from Heaven with Jesus yet being on earth.  God is able.  Jesus was God in the flesh, but God was still in Heaven.  I know, it is difficult to comprehend.  I suppose that we are just not capable of such understanding.  (On a side-note, in your Scripture reference above we see all three heads of the Godhead; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.)

     Jesus Himself always submitted Himself to a lesser place that the Father had.  There is obviously some difference between Jesus and God the Father because we see Jesus killed, God cannot be killed.  God came and made Himself a little lower than the angels (spiritual beings).  This means that God became flesh.  But God did not cease being the Eternal Father God.  It is hard to explain and hard to understand.  But it is not a salvation issue to have to believe that Jesus was God, just to believe that Jesus was the Son of God who died to save sinners.

     The problem that us humans have is that we cannot understand how God can be in two different places at the same time.  This is because we cannot be in two different places at the same time, but God is not so limited.  But as far as God in Heaven (who is Spirit) speaking to God in the flesh (Jesus) on earth for our hearing and learning- even we can talk to ourselves.  Is that such a big thing for Him to do so?

     This may help some:  In the Old Testament the son and the father, among men, had a certain correspondence.  We see the sons punished for the father's sins in the Old Testament.  In Sodom even the children were killed for the sins of the Sodomite people.  We see birthright passed from father to son.  Many times the King of Israel was blessed and spared because of the righteousness of his Father (Many were spared because of the promise that god made to king David, and how he would always have a house in Israel).  Even Jesus fulfilled the promise made to David (Jesus was called a Son of David by the demons who possessed knowledge from Heaven).  There is some unknown correlation between son and father that has some greater significance in the spiritual realm.  I figure that God and Jesus are just this same relation only magnified much.

     When all else fails you regarding trying to understand this, refer to:

Isa 55:8-9
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.  (KJV)

God is basically telling us that we cannot understand everything that He does, we are not capable.  Some things must just be accepted simply because He told us so.

John 10:30-33
30 I and my Father are one.
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.  KJV

1 John 5:7
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.  KJV

Titus 2:13
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;  KJV

1 Tim 3:16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.  KJV

John 1:1-14
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
...(continued) ...
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.  KJV

 

Jesus was God come to Earth in a flesh body
 
New Testament
Jesus
Old Testament
The Lord God
John 8:58
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.  KJV
Ex 3:14
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.  KJV
Rev 2:8
8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;  KJV
Isa 44:6
6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.  KJV

 

     For deeper study with more references as to why Jesus was God, see our, The Holy Spirit & The Holy Trinity.

God bless the study of His Word, in Jesus Christ' name!
Nick Goggin

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The Tribulation; Seals Trumps, and Vials, have they commenced (started) yet?  How long is it to be for?

 

Teresa writes:

Hello Watchman Bible study,
My question is:
How long do you think the 5th trump will last, and are with in it now?
Thank you,
Teresa


Answer:

     Hello Teresa, we disagree with some on their interpretation of the timing of the Seals, Trumps, and Vials.

     It is our position that they happen in order: first the 1st-7th Seals, then the 1st-7th Trumps, and then the 1st-7th Vials.  Then comes the Second Advent.

    We are not even in the first Seal yet.  Some have said that we are in the Fifth Seal now, but a cursory read of the events of the 1st through the 4th Seal displays that they have not yet occurred (not to mention some or all of the 5th Seal events).

The First through the Forth Seals:

Rev 6:1-8
6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.  KJV

     Now I may have been sleeping and missed all of the above events (should they have already happened), but I know that I haven't missed all or part of the Fifth Seal events (should they have already happened).
 

The Fifth Seal:

Rev 6:9-11
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.  KJV

     None of these Seals has happened yet. 

    The Seals commence the Tribulation.  From the beginning of the first seal―till the end of the Seventh Vial, and the second advent, is forty-seven months, or just under four years.  That is why we suggest that people who are making provisions for themselves, plan for some forty-eight months.

    We also disagree with some on the length (and the shortening) of the Tribulation.

    Our position is that the first part of the Tribulation is forty-two months, and was not shortened; the second part of the Tribulation being five months, which was shortened.

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Jewish Expulsions (Deportations)

The 108 expulsions of Jews from the countries of the world - between 250 and 1948 A.D.

AntiSemitism?

Come-on, please; let's start getting realistic!

#, date, place

  1. 250                  Carthage
  2. 415                  Alexandria
  3. 554                  Diocese of Clement (France)
  4. 561                  Diocese of Uzzes (France)
  5. 612                  Visigoth Spain
  6. 642                  Visigoth Empire
  7. 855                  Italy
  8. 876                  Sens
  9. 1012                 Mainz
  10. 1182                 France
  11. 1182                 Germany
  12. 1276                 Upper Bavaria
  13. 1290                 England
  14. 1306                 France
  15. 1322                 France (again)
  16. 1348                 Switzerland
  17. 1349                 Hielbronn (Germany)
  18. 1349                 Saxony
  19. 1349                 Hungary
  20. 1360                 Hungary
  21. 1370                 Belgium
  22. 1380                 Slovakia
  23. 1388                 Strasbourg
  24. 1394                 Germany
  25. 1394                 France
  1. 1420                 Lyons
  2. 1421                 Austria
  3. 1424                 Fribourg
  4. 1424                 Zurich
  5. 1424                 Cologne
  6. 1432                 Savoy
  7. 1438                 Mainz
  8. 1439                 Augsburg
  9. 1442                 Netherlands
  10. 1444                 Netherlands
  11. 1446                 Bavaria
  12. 1453                 France
  13. 1453                 Breslau
  14. 1454                 Wurzburg
  15. 1462                 Mainz
  16. 1483                 Mainz (again)
  17. 1484                 Warsaw
  18. 1485                 Vincenza (Italy)
  19. 1492                 Spain
  20. 1492                 Italy
  21. 1495                 Lithuania
  22. 1496                 Naples
  23. 1496                 Portugal
  24. 1498                 Nuremberg
  25. 1498                 Navarre
  1. 1510                 Brandenberg
  2. 1510                 Prussia
  3. 1514                 Strasbourg
  4. 1515                 Genoa
  5. 1519                 Regensburg
  6. 1533                 Naples
  7. 1541                 Naples (again)
  8. 1542                 Prague & Bohemia
  9. 1550                 Genoa
  10. 1551                 Bavaria
  11. 1555                 Pesaro
  12. 1557                 Prague
  13. 1559                 Austria
  14. 1561                 Prague
  15. 1567                 Wurzburg
  16. 1569                 Papal States
  17. 1571                 Brandenburg
  18. 1582                 Netherlands
  19. 1582                 Hungary
  20. 1593                 Brandenburg, Austria
  21. 1597                 Cremona, Pavia & Lodi
  22. 1614                 Frankfort
  23. 1615                 Worms
  24. 1619                 Kiev
  25. 1648                 Ukraine
  1. 1648                 Poland
  2. 1649                 Hamburg
  3. 1654                 Little Russia (Beylorus)
  4. 1656                 Lithuania
  5. 1669                 Oran (North Africa)
  6. 1669                 Vienna
  7. 1670                 Vienna (again)
  8. 1712                 Sandomir
  9. 1727                 Russia
  10. 1738                 Wurtemburg
  11. 1740                 Little Russia (Beylorus)
  12. 1744                 Prague (again), Bohemia
  13. 1744                 Slovakia
  14. 1744                 Livonia
  15. 1745                 Moravia
  16. 1753                 Kovad (Lithuania)
  17. 1761                 Bordeaux
  18. 1772                 Deported to the Pale of Settlement (Poland/Russia)
  19. 1775                 Warsaw
  20. 1789                 Alcace
  21. 1804                 Villages in Russia
  22. 1808                 Villages & Countrysides (Russia)
  23. 1815                 Lubeck & Bremen
  24. 1815                 Franconia, Swabia & Bavaria
  25. 1820                 Bremen
  26. 1843                 Russian Border Austria & Prussia
  27. 1862                 Area in the U.S. under Grant's Jurisdiction
  28. 1866                 Galatz, Romania
  29. 1880s                 Russia (within less than 40 years, by 1917, the Jews will not only have returned to Christian Russia; but they will have fomented the Bolshevik Revolution; and overthrowing the government in that revolution, Russia will become the Atheist Communist Union - the U.S.S.R.)
  30. 1891                 Moscow
  31. 1919                 Bavaria (foreign born Jews)
  32. 1938-45             Nazi Controlled Areas
  33. 1948                 Arab Countries
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