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Are Angels without gender, as we know gender today?
A reader writes:
Dear Nick
just wondered what your opinion was on the question of
are Angels without gender? The real reason for the question is I am
puzzled over your account titled"
WHAT WAS THE REAL SIN IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN?"
[What
was the Real sin in the garden of Eden?]
You say "The 'serpent'
and 'the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the midst of
the garden,' are both one in the same entity; it is satan
himself."
and then you go onto say "One thing for sure: This serpent
wasn't some gardener snake, snakes do not have the organs of speech,
but satan has the organs to accomplish impregnating Eve with
his son Cain."
I've always understood Satan to be the fallen
Angel Lucifer and I
thought Angels were without gender or the ability to reproduce? i.e.
Matthew 22:30 (New International Version)
30 At
the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage;
they will be like the angels in heaven.
Do you think Satan took over the body of someone
male from the first creation account? Or do you believe Satan can
actually become flesh and impregnate a woman?
Thanks for all your hard work and patience
Bless You......................[Xxxxxx]
Answer:
Hello [Xxxxxxx]. Actually angels have gender, they are
male. But they do not have gender as in two genders.
In other words, where there is no female gender there is no observation
of a male gender.
Jesus was God in the flesh, He was made in the
pattern and express image of God, and He was male (He was even
circumcised if you know what I'm getting at). So there is gender, there
just isn't gender differences. In Heaven all angels are what
we today would call male. There is no such thing as a female gender in
angelic form; hence, the foolishness of modern-day "angel accounts." All
female angel "sightings" and most male angel "sightings" today are just
demons impersonating what the person thinks they should look like. Just
like so-called alien sightings, etc.
Satan was different than the fallen angels. The
fallen angels came here against God's orders, but satan was placed in
the Garden by God, for a very specific reason. Thus, satan had a
different body than the fallen angels (who themselves had a different
body than the angels in Heaven). There is some sort of transformation
that occurs when an angel enters this realm. We cannot know much about
this because God doesn't tell us.
I'm sure that you know that the serpent was no
snake, but was a man, an angel in human form, he was satan in the flesh,
just like Jesus was God in the flesh. When I stated that the serpent
was the tree in the midst... I did not mean that he had a trunk and
leaves. The name serpent is a character attribute, not a species
identifier. The serpent was the nachash, he was the
'glistening one' the 'bright one,' the 'wise one' (but evil). The term
"subtle" used of the serpent is defined as "wise." In the New Testament
Jesus says the He (Jesus) is the branch, surely He wasn't saying that He was a
plant. Well, neither was satan (as the serpent) a reptile. You get the
point.
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Storing Tribulation provisions?
A reader writes:
...You encourage your readers to prepare for the
economic and social crash. What is your take on the Y2K non-event? I
had a number of programmers from the US and Venezuela tell me they
were concerned. I remember following a number of websites on it. (I
stockpiled water and toilet paper- non-perishable and popular items,
good for bartering with neighbors for avocados, bananas and
papayas.) Since then I've thought of it as some sort of psy op. I
wonder if it wasn't to desensitize people and make them wary of
websites that promote survival preparation. Your thoughts?
Loved your
expose on Hagee. That windbag. Good job.
Thanks again for all your time and efforts.
God bless, Xxxxx
Answer:
Hi Xxxxxxxx. Thank you for the kind word. Regarding
the Year 2000 non-event: Well, nothing major happened, but what if it
did? That's what preparation is all about—preparing for what you
hope will never happen but being prepared just in case it does.
So in my opinion, the fact that
Y2K did not create the chaos that many had speculated does not in any
way serve as justification to throw away any and all plans for
preparation. Consider this, in 2005 the residents in Louisiana and
other Gulf Coast states were hit with a major hurricane, and in New
Orleans many were without the basic survival products, water, food,
shelter, light, communication/radios/shortwave, firearms, etc.
So there you have two extremes, one where
preparations were made and not used, and one where preparations were not
made and were desperately needed.
As for me, I would rather be in the first group
and have on hand what I may never need, rather than those who were in
great need having nothing.
What is it that they say, "prepare for the worst
and hope for the best"? Sounds good to me.
Do I think that it was a psy-op
[psychological operation]? No, I don't think that there was
any great planning in the fact that many prepared and did not need their
Y2K preparations. But it may have had that inadvertent effect, and that
many will not prepare now thinking that preparations are a waste of time
and quite silly.
That shall their biggest mistake. What is coming is so terrible
that those not prepared are going to be at the will and whim of "the
state" and whatever Kenite you-know-who's that are running it. For, as Jesus
informed us of in no uncertain terms:
Matt 24:21-25
21 For then shall be great
tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to
this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh
be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there;
believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and
shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were
possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before. KJV
Jesus wasn't "play-warning," He was setting down instructions for
the final generation of Christians—I believe that that is us.
And don't think that famines aren't involved; for, in the beginning of
the Tribulation there are among other catastrophes, famines:
Rev 6:5-8
5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast
say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that
sat on him had a pair of balances [(scales)
measuring devises used in commerce] in
his hand.
6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure
of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and
see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
[hyperinflation causing food shortages—a days wages (1¢)only
feed one man (and not his family or the infirm)]
7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the
fourth beast say, Come and see.
8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on
him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power
was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth
[at today's population level of circa 6.5 billion,
that is 1,620,000,000 dead (1 billion, 620 million)],
to kill with sword, and with hunger, and
with death, and with the beasts of the earth. KJV
And a Christian ought never forget what Jesus by revelation informed
us of: "And that no man might buy or
sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast,
or the number of his name." (Rev 13:17). Why warn us ahead of
time if He didn't expect that some of the sharper knives in the
drawer would prepare? Sorry, but I'm not taking any satanic mark
of any beast for my daily bread. And I also don't plan on starving
nor dying. Fill in the blanks.
Rev 14:9-12
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice,
If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark
in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same
shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is
poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he
shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the
holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever:
and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his
image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the
commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. KJV
Now, since most can safely live
three minutes without air, three days without water, and three weeks
without food; and that by my calculations the entire Tribulation shall
be
circa forty-seven months long (42 + 5); it would seem to be an excellent
idea to make preparations beforehand; unless, of course, they are
planning on turning to antichrist's beast system for food. Or,
unless they are among the Divinely protected as those in Rev 12:6 & 14
are. My feeling on the matter is to do all that I can do on my own
and then trust God to do that which I cannot do (and sometimes God's
warning us IS the help from Him; remember Joseph in Egypt
storing food for 7 years [Gen 41:28], and Noah built a boat with his own
hands). But not all Christians feel as I do; many (most) prefer to
leave it all up to God to do for them, while they lounge
doing nothing. You must choose your path, and act as you are led
in prayer.
Thank you, good question.
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Abortion; sin, and forgiveness; Kenites; imperfection;
etc.
I have been reading your site with interest and
have been a student of Shepherds Chapel on and off since the
90's. When I found out that you lived in Chicago I had to mail
you. I have a lot of questions for you that I wont lay all on
you at once but I live in [a Chicago suburb]
so I am close to you and i'm wondering even though I read
supplemental on you page if you have any study groups or if you
have considered Pastoring.....there is certainly a need for it
or if you could recommend a study group. It would be a shame if
you weren't part of it though. I'm sure you get asked this a lot
and am curious to hear your answer.
Me and my daughter are talking about baptism and
i'm also wondering if you have or would baptise? I am looking
for some like minded people who read Gods word as it is to be
read and it is very hard to find people.
I have a personal question that I need some help
with and I have wrestled with for a very very long time. I am
[in his thirties] now and my girlfriend
and I aborted a baby when I was 19. It didn't really eat at my
soul like it did after I found Shepherds Chapel on tv about a
year later. I had studied with Pastor Murray for a while and
when he talked about thou shalt not kill as being murdered I was
mortified (as I should have been). I had not considered the fact
that I had murdered and destroyed an entire seed line. I stopped
studying for a long time because I felt so hopeless and was very
disgusted in what I have done.
Up to that point the Lord had filled me with so
much truth and I loved it. I would spend 3 or 4 hours a day
studying. About 6 months ago I began wondering if God could
forgive even me and decided to try to find the answer and in my
search God is filling me with his word again and I really do
soak it up like a sponge at times......it really is like Pastor
Murray says that there is so much more to God's word than I have
been taught. I felt as if God could forgive me and maybe I
needed to forgive myself because what is done was done in
ignorance. Then I get some doubt and that hopelessness creeps
back in......There are not many days that go by that I don't
think about what I have done. I really need some help on this
and hope you could shed some light on this ( I am the only man
i've ever heard of that feels this way ....which is sad in
itself). I just cant understand that God gives me of his word so
generously and my love for studying it if I am already dead and
on my way to the lake of fire.
I thank you for your time and would really like
to find some people I could learn and grow with as there are to
few people in the Chicagoland area........and if you don't
currently have a study group or do any Pastoring I would offer
my house up or I could other places where we could meet. I have
7 people already who would love it...........
Looking forward to hearing from you,
Answer:
Hello [Xxxxxx]. Hopefully we will have another mild
winter.
Regarding Baptism: I have not been led to
Baptize, though as you know any Christian can Baptize a believer. I
just have never felt the unction to do a Baptism. I'm not saying no,
I'm just saying that I would have to feel led. There is a long-time
female Shepherds Chapel student here in Chicago that I know who has done
something like 10 or 15 Baptisms. People just up and ask her to Baptize
them. And while I see admonition against female preachers
and church leaders in the Bible, and have written at length on
the matter, I find no prohibition on female Baptizers. Though I
personally wouldn't get Baptized by a woman, for whatever reasons that
are in my mind. I guess I'm kind of old fashioned or whatnot.
Do as you feel led after prayer on the matter. I went down to
Shepherds Chapel a long time ago and was Baptized by pastor Arnold
Murray. But that was just what I felt led to do. Since you
like the Shepherds Chapel why not call them and inquire when they are
doing Baptisms?
You should get Baptized sooner
than later, though; it was a commandment of Jesus:
Matt 28:18-20
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given
unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the
name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded
you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world.
Amen. KJV
Mark 16:15-16
15 And he [Jesus]
said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to
every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that
believeth not shall be damned. KJV
Gal 3:26-27
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have
put on
Christ. KJV
We have a Bible study on Baptism:
Baptism. What's my point? My point is: get Baptized
Christian. Whatever are you waiting for?
Regarding study groups: I am not currently
involved in study groups per se, other than Watchmen Bible
Study Group, that is. This Website is a Bible
study and current events study group, it just isn't all that
interactive, other than the Q & A's. And I have so much work, what with
the Website and the book that I trying to complete, that I just don't
think that I could give it the time to do it justice.
Regarding pastoring: There is only one reason
that I can recall that I never got ordained as a minister; and that is
because I will not be beholden to any denomination's creed. When you
are ordained under a denomination you are expected to teach that
particular denomination's articles of faith, and no other. And as many
of you know it is nigh unto impossible to find a church that teaches the
Bible totally and doesn't add this or that; or that for fear of
offending satan's new thing Political-Correctness, doesn't withhold many things.
I just can do it that way. I
cannot remain silent where I see error being taught as truth in any
church. So what would happen to me is that I would probably be
"defrocked" the minute I turned the Bible light on the particular
denomination that ordained me. I think that they call it heresy
in some churches, that means to teach doctrine unaccepted by the
church. You will recall that the Catholic church burned (literally) a
lot of non-Catholic Christians for heresy; that is, they didn't bow to
the supremacy of the pope, and they dared read a Bible on their own (the
Bible was once on the "Index" of the Catholic Church, the index of
FORBIDDEN BOOKS!).
Having read my work here, how long
do you think that I would last as a Catholic priest or a pastor in some
Rapture church? About ten minutes after my first sermon. :o)
And the day that I kneel before a flesh sinful
man and kiss his ring, and call him "holy father," and worship dead
people and corpses made "saints" by men not competent to make breakfast,
as the Catholics do, is the day I ought to consider hell.
Acts 5:29
29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to
obey God rather than men KJV
Or, as they call it: "sola scriptura," by
Scripture alone—no traditions of man that have crept
into the compromised endtime churches.
Sola
scriptura (Latin ablative, "by scripture alone") is the
assertion that the Bible as God's written word is self-authenticating,
clear (perspicuous) to the rational reader, its own interpreter
("Scripture interprets Scripture"), and sufficient of itself to be the
final authority of Christian doctrine.
Sola scriptura was a
foundational doctrinal principle of the Protestant Reformation held by
the reformer Martin Luther and is a definitive principle of Protestants
today (see Five solas)
Sola scriptura may be
contrasted with Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox teaching, in which
doctrine is authentically taught by the legitimate teaching authority of
the Church which draws on the Deposit of Faith which consists of Sacred
Tradition, of which Sacred Scripture is a subset. —
Source
Anyway, none of the Bible greats
were ordained; so being ordained is a tradition of man not a commandment
of God.
Now to our most pressing matter: You stated:
"I am [in his thirties] now and my girlfriend and I aborted a baby
when I was 19. It didn't really eat at my soul like it did after I
found Shepherds Chapel on tv about a year later. I had studied with
Pastor Murray for a while and when he talked about thou shalt not
kill as being murdered I was mortified (as I should have been). I
had not considered the fact that I had murdered and destroyed an
entire seed line. I stopped studying for a long time because I felt
so hopeless and was very disgusted in what I have done.
...I felt as if God could forgive me and maybe I
needed to forgive myself because what is done was done in ignorance.
Then I get some doubt and that hopelessness creeps back
in......There are not many days that go by that I don't think about
what I have done. I really need some help on this and hope you could
shed some light on this"
First I would like to commend you for realizing
that the man also bears some responsibility for an abortion, it isn't
always just the woman's sin alone. So, many men need to be repenting
for abortions as well. I myself have been a culpable party in at least
two abortions that I know about, because I did not try to stop them and
even encouraged one of them when she would have had the baby had I
committed to her. So especially that second one was on my soul. I was
guilty as charged. You did notice the past tense in "was
guilty," didn't you? You see, God forgave me of that in Jesus' name,
and Jesus paid the price for my part of the sin of that baby's abortion so
that I do not have to. How do I know? Because God promised, that's
how. And I believe Him.
So when I speak out strongly
against Abortion on this Website, women need not think that I am being
hard on them; for, I too count myself as having once been guilty of the
sin of abortion.
Now, since you are a
Shepherds Chapel member (as
am I), I must stop here and correct the good pastor. He teaches that
murder is not forgivable on this Earth and that we must find forgiveness
for that sin in Heaven alone. This is wrong on two counts. The first
is that he supposes that we can find forgiveness and repent for sins
AFTER our death, and this also feeds into his "Millennium
teaching/second chance" teaching which is also unscriptural. And it
is so wrong:
2 Cor 5:10
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of
Christ; that every one may receive the things
done in his body,
according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. KJV
Rev 20:11-13
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from
whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found
no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God;
and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the
book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which
were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell
delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged
every man according to their works. KJV
And secondly, the good pastor
errors in that he says that murder is not forgivable under the blood of
Christ. This is so wrong too.
Matt 12:31-32
[Jesus speaking]
31 Wherefore I say unto you,
All manner of sin and
blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy
against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be
forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it
shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the
world to come. KJV
Mark 3:28-30
[Jesus speaking]
28 Verily I say unto you,
All sins shall be forgiven
unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they
shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never
forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit. KJV
The good pastor gets his teaching
from: "and ye know that no murderer hath eternal
life abiding in him" (1 John 3:15b);
however, if we take that verse in context we see that it isn't even
speaking of the physical murder of a human's body:
1 John 3:15
15 Whosoever hateth
his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no
murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. KJV
And if we take the Scripture in its
broader context we see that not only is it NOT talking about the killing
of a man, and it is not saying that it is unforgivable:
1 John 3:13-18
13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love
the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that
no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life
for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have
need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how
dwelleth the love of God in him?
18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue;
but in deed and in truth. KJV
Regardless, what happens when a
sinner repents in Christ? He isn't guilty of that sin anymore—else
what did Christ's perfect sacrifice accomplish? What happens when
a murderer repents of that murder? He isn't a murderer anymore.
Just like when an adulteress repents of her adultery she is no longer an
adulteress; or a repentant thief is no longer a thief, etc.
If, that is, they be Christian believers.
When we die the time for
repentance and forgiveness ceases, and we go to Judgment Day with
whatever unrepented
sins that we had on our soul at the moment of death. This does not
necessarily mean that we will be condemned to "hell" (Lake of Fire), for we do not know how God shall judge this or that.
There are many sins that we all do,
some more than others, some more grievous than others, but we all have
sinned. "For all have sinned, and come short of
the glory of God" (Rom 3:23); but we Christians know that we can: "Being
justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus"
(Rom 3:24 ).
And as we mature in our Christian walk we tend to sin less and
less, but we shall never be perfect. Christianity isn't about being
perfect, it is about knowing when you aren't and caring about that, and
knowing where to take ourselves when we have fallen short or mis-stepped.
Christians are forgiven upon repentance because that is the
New Covenant from God—Jesus is the New Covenant—and by His
blood and our belief upon Him that He did come and do all as God's written
Word the Bible says that He did.
Heb 10:16-23
16 This is the
covenant [the New Covenant]
that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord,
I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write
them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18 Now where remission [forgiveness]
of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
[through Jesus the full price of that sin has been paid,
there is no more sin to pay for, it is gone]
19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest
[the eternal presence of God Almighty Himself]
by the blood of
Jesus,
20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us,
through the veil, that is to say, his flesh
[Jesus' offering on the cross of life, that which was death became life
to those whom believe upon Him who did die and who did resurrect again
to live evermore];
21 And having an high priest [Jesus]
over the house of God;
22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having
our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with
pure water [Jesus IS the Living Water—John
4:10-14].
23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for
he [God] is
faithful that promised;)
KJV
Hey, I know that what you did was
terrible, I know because I did the same thing. But how is it that I
know that God has forgiven me of that grievous sin and you do not know it?
Listen, so completely are the sins of a
repentant Christian forgiven that they no longer exist, God forgets
them by His own decree. They no longer exist:
Heb 10:16-17
16
This is
the covenant
that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord,
I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write
them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will
I remember no more.
What covenant was God
fulfilling with man through Christ Jesus? God kept His promise of the
thing that He promised way back in the Old Testament Jeremiah's day.
Jer 31:33-37
33 But this
shall be the covenant that I
will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I
will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and
will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man
his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the
least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord;
for I will forgive their iniquity, and
I
will remember their sin no more.
35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the
ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which
divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his
name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the
seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the
foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all
the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.
KJV
And through
Jesus Christ we are all adopted by faith into Israel under the Covenant made
by God to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob/Israel; all Christians,
White, Black, Red, Brown, and if there be any green Christians, they too are
adopted through Christ Jesus into eternal life as sons of God. That
was Jesus' mission.
Gal 3:26-4:7
26 For ye are all
the children of God by
faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on
Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there
is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's
seed,
and
heirs according to the promise.
4:1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth
nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the
father.
3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements
of the world:
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his
Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the
adoption of sons.
6 And because ye are
sons [no gender intended, see verse 28 above],
God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son [the
Holy Spirit] into your hearts, crying,
Abba, Father.
7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son,
then an heir of God
through Christ.
KJV
What's my point? My point is that God,
through Christ Jesus, has forgiven you, but satan wishes to oppress you
through guilt that doesn't even exist anymore, and you are in bondage as
evidenced by your continued pain and shame.
Now, we know that Christ defeated
death and that there is no sin save for the unforgivable sin (blasphemy of
the Holy Spirit) that God won't forgive men on Earth, so just what exactly
are you feeling guilty about? Because you sinned? Welcome to the
real world, friend, had not all men sinned Christ need not have suffered.
But we see that He did, and it is evident to us that there was purpose in
that.
Heb 2:9-18
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the
angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and
honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for
every man.
10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all
things [fulfilling Jn 1:3],
in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of
their salvation perfect
through sufferings [fulfilling Hos 1:10].
11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of
one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the
church will I sing praise unto thee [fulfilling
Psm 22:22].
13 And again, I will put my trust in him
[fulfilling 2nd Sam 22:3]. And again,
Behold I and the children which God hath given me
[fulfilling Isa 8:18].
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he
[God] also himself
likewise took part of the same [became flesh, as
Jesus. Fulfilling Isa 7:14 confirmed in Mat 1:23-25 and Jn 1:1 & 14];
that through death [fulfilling Isa
53:12] he
[God as Jesus] might
destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil
[fulfilling Isa 25:8-9];
15 And deliver [free]
them [us Christians]
who through fear of [eternal]
death were all their lifetime subject to
bondage [fulfilling Hos 13:14].
16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on
him the seed of Abraham [fulfilling Gen 22:18
confirmed in Gal 3:16].
17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his
brethren [fulfilling Duet 18:15],
that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things
pertaining to God [fulfilling Gen 14:18, Psm
110:4, Heb 7:1-3], to make
reconciliation for the sins of the people
[fulfilling Isa 42:7].
18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to
succour them that are tempted. KJV
Rom 8:14-17
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God
[the Holy Spirit given to every Christian upon the INSTANT
they believe upon Jesus Christ], they are
the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye
have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit [Holy Spirit of God]
itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we
are
the children of God:
17 And if children, then
heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so
be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
KJV
Sir, you are free, you
have been since repenting of the sin; not because I say so—God
forbid! But rather because God said so. And He promised,
fulfilling that promise in the Innocent One who took away our sins; and He
made a Covenant, an unbreakable promise with us Christians, and when He
could not seal that promise with anything more He sealed it with the Blood
of His Christ, the Messiah of God, that is to say Jesus Christ of Nazareth,
born of the virgin Mary, God Himself being His Father by the power of the
Holy Spirit of God, who died and resurrected and is now in Heaven awaiting
the time of completion of all that God had ordained.
That is a
Covenant above every covenant ever made in this world since before the world
was. Now go, go and be free in Christ Jesus. And place the
remembrance of past sins and transgressions, though they perchance be many
or grievous, as far away in the back of your mind as possible. You, we
all, have work to do for our Lord Jesus Christ in these perilous endtimes.
And we can't be good servants if we are running around with our head hung
low. Don't let satan haunt you with ghosts of sins past which were
removed through Christ Jesus and forgotten of God by His forswearing and
promise. Any less, I dare say, is not of faith.
Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
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The reader writes back:
My daughter is waiting for the snow to fly but I
can surely do without it.
Thank you for the quick response. I respect and
understand all of your positions and thank you the most for help
on abortion. I assume you were answering my question to your
readers as well as myself. I understand that any Christian can
baptize another but I myself wouldn't get baptized by anyone
until I see or hear what they believe. Hence why I asked about
it of you..........but yes then my only other option is to go to
Shepherds Chapel which I would not be able to do until summer
and that's even if they are doing baptisms at the time.
...I am glad I am not the only man who agrees it
is just as much the mans sin as it is the woman's and believe
this message and the abortion message being murder should be
taught. I have never heard Pastor Arnold Murray directly teach
this at all.....only during the question and answer segment have
I heard possible inferences made when he starts a question
.....a young woman wants to know if she can be forgiven and he
will say yes repent and sin no more. Maybe i'm wrong on this but
I have heard him do it quite a bit so one or two of those had to
be that.
I would like to know of you
this.......in Numbers the example given about lying in wait and
the murderer should be killed by the kinsmen redeemer and face
the accuser in heaven? If Christ came not to change one jot or
tittle ....wouldn't this still apply.......this is what I really
need to be set straight on and how it ties into the new
testament as Christ can forgive through the blood he shed but I
am thinking the law still stands about killing the murderer and
sending them to the accuser. I am sorry but i go to these
lengths because I really don't undertand how after Pastor
Murray's teaching on you cant be forgiven till you are killed by
your accuser but Numbers seems to say this must happen. yet
Christ can forgive all manner of sin.
Without reading the Old Testament though I would
be inclined to agree with what you say having read it all many
times and is why I came to the belief that I am
forgiven............that Old testament gets me though.
Update: after reading your email to me again
something finally hit me like a revelation you said:
The first is that he supposes that we can find
forgiveness and repent for sins AFTER our death
I have never thought of this being a student of
the Chapel.......................would it be possible that a
murderers salvation depends on the accuser forgiving you ??
(also how would this play out with the
teachings of Numbers - kill the murderer to face the accuser??)
.............It is the first time i've ever considered pastor
Murray's teaching flawed.........do you have a study or can you
point me to scripture about the Millennium teaching being
wrong???
Wow you have given me more to consider than I
previously thought...........this is very important to me and
you are the only person in the world that I know of that I can
question as Shepherds Chapel is not accessible to me.
Thank You much as I feel this may be starting to
finally open up to me.
[Xxxxx Xxxxxxx]
Answer:
Hi [Xxxxxx]. Don't worry, you did not offend me in any
way.
"I would like to know of you
this.......in Numbers
the example given
about lying in wait and the murderer should be killed by the
kinsmen redeemer
and
face the accuser in heaven? If Christ came not to change
one jot or tittle ....wouldn't this still apply.......this is
what I really need to be set straight on and how it ties into
the new testament as Christ can forgive through the blood he
shed but I am thinking the law still stands about killing the
murderer
and
sending them to the accuser."
Here is found the problem. Nowhere in Scripture
does it say anything about the murderer being killed "so that he can
face the accuser/victim in Heaven," or "sending him to the
accuser." Pastor Murray added that to the Scriptures, or rather
call it supposition on his part. He has also heavily alluded
to the fact that if the victim doesn't forgive the murderer then the
murderer doesn't get forgiven. This is also nowhere to be found in any
Scripture. God does the judging, not dead humans. And since Jesus
said that we must forgive others to have our own sins forgiven, it is a
given that in Heaven all who are forgiven shall have also forgiven those
who have sinned against them: "For
if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also
forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither
will your Father forgive your trespasses."
(Matt 6:14-15).
But don't let that bother you;
for, on Judgment Day we are all in spiritual bodies and really couldn't
care less about what was done to us here in this flesh world. I
hope I haven't confused anyone with this. What I am saying is that
when we are in God's presence looking out forward to our eternal lives
in God's very presence, this little old flesh life and the pains of/in
it shall mean absolutely nothing to us. That's why God does the
judging, because it does matter to Him what went on here.
And don't forget, that in Heaven: "And
God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no
more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more
pain: for the former things are passed away." (Rev 21:4).
Below is the Scripture that you referring to:
Num 35:16-21
16 And if he smite him with an instrument of iron, so that he die,
he is a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to death.
17 And if he smite him with throwing a stone, wherewith he may die,
and he die, he is a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to
death.
18 Or if he smite him with an hand weapon of wood, wherewith he may
die, and he die, he is a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put
to death.
19 The revenger of blood himself shall slay the murderer:
when he meeteth him, he shall slay him.
20 But if he thrust him of hatred, or hurl at him by laying
of wait, that he die;
21 Or in enmity smite him with his hand, that he die: he that smote
him shall surely be put to death; for he is a murderer: the
revenger of blood shall slay the murderer, when he meeteth him.
KJV
You notice that there is no mention of the
victim meeting anyone, and he certainly is not passing judgment on
the offender. Pastor Murray himself says that you should always check
him out, this is one place where that truly does apply. He means well,
he just made a mistake.
Pastor Murray is the best, I respect him, but he
is not perfect, nobody is. I don't want to shake your trust in him.
However, since you asked:
You will find no better out there than pastor Arnold Murray, so bear
with his humanness. Only Jesus was perfect in the flesh. In other
words, "don't throw the baby out with the bath water."
Regarding your confusion over forgiveness in the
Old Testament compared to the New Testament, you are overlooking a very
important event. Jesus Christ died for sin. In the Old Testament this
had not yet occurred.
John 1:29
29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith,
Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
KJV
Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
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The reader writes back:
You have helped me more than you know. I feel so
ridiculous that I did not catch this but mainly read along with
Pastor Murray's (Capital Punishment) tape. I was reading part of
your study last night "The Unforgivable Sin" and recall you
saying more than once how we are human and even Pastors are
prone to a mistake and must change positions as more is
learned.....it was hard for me at first to think if God calls
you to teach his word that you would be allowed to teach a major
point of scripture in error.....but in fact that must be the
case because here is an example of it. My wrong which you taught
me was not checking out what someone is saying clearly enough.
I like Pastor Murray and always
have..........when I first heard him I was awestruck. just like
he had said.....I always thought there was more to God's word
than I was taught and as a kid my mom would read the bible to me
and I would ask questions that no one had the answer to. as I
got older I would read the King James my grandmother gave me but
didn't get that deeper meaning and I couldn't put it all
together........when I first heard Pastor Murray talk about what
happened in the garden I was hooked.
I got lax in my checking things out and got bit
pretty hard. I thank you much for setting me straight. I have
recorded the whole bible plus a lot of individual studies over
the years and I will continue to listen to Pastor Murray while
checking him out. I've had slight disagreements with his
teaching but nothing like this.....it really is an eye opener.
Thank you for pointing me to your studies on the
Millennium ....I will be reading them this weekend with my bible
open.
For the first time I feel I have found the proof
(even though I am still going through it with as much of a fine
tooth comb as I can) that I am forgiven once I repented of the
sin of abortion (murder) as terrible as it is.
I now cant wait to read your studies (I didn't
know you had so many) ......and will be supporting the feeding
once I can and once I read more.
I wanted to ask you ..........you have a lot of
studies and books and films on Kenites.....international
Judaics?? and you mention religions by name.........i'm not used
to someone else doing this although I have. Aren't we to leave
the Kenites alone?? I mean you go pretty deep into it such as
were six million Jews killed in the Holocaust.........I really
need to read before I ask much more on this subject because as a
kid we were plastered with images of the concentration camps and
my grandfather was part of EZ company in WWII and used to tell
me some horrid stories about Germany. Anyway i'm not going to
say I don't believe what you are saying because again i've just
never checked it out.............it is almost as when I started
with pastor Murray saying these things cannot be because its was
never taught..........you have surely piqued my interest.
Answer:
Hello [Xxxxxx]. I am glad that the Lord is easing
your heart about your past transgressions.
And I hope that you don't hang pastor Murray up
because he makes a mistake once in a while. There is not a man Bible
teacher that won't make a mistake or two, myself included, of course.
We try our best, we pray that we give and get the right answers; but God
will not allow any man to be perfect, lest that man become an idol to
the people.
It's all a part of humbling us. God likes us
humble, and the more humble that we are the more He watches over our
teachings. For it is an embarrassing and humbling thing to have to say
"I made a mistake on that one." And for shame's sake many a
person will not change their position. This is not good, and it leads
one down into a whirlpool of greater and greater error because for
pride's sake they made supposition that the truth of God was relevant
and not absolute.
So true is the saying of Christ:
Matt 23:8-12
8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ;
and all ye are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your
Father, which is in heaven.
10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even
Christ.
11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he
that shall humble himself shall be exalted. KJV
"Arent we to leave the kenites alone??"
Oh, but I do not advocate harming them, I do not
attack them, I do not uproot them (as though that were
possible). A little light is good for them, perchance one of their
number may convert; but mostly so that the Christian is aware of his
mortal enemy. But I do speak of them, I do expose them in their deeds.
Jesus said to leave the tares alone, He didn't say to pretend that they
do not exist. In fact, it was He who informed us that they do in fact
exist, and He had it written down in the received and approved text of
the Bible.
I think that sometimes people like to hide
behind the "leave them alone" Scripture so as to not have to take the
bold step of speaking about them. It is much
easier to NOT speak of their existence, you know. They do rule
this world, and they hide within Jewry's numbers so that to speak of the
Kenite is to open oneself up to false allegations (false witness) of
so-called "AntiSemitism." Therefore, many pastors and Bible
teachers just avoid speaking of them at all, for their own comfort's
sake. Or they themselves (the Christian clergy that happen to be
trained in the Judaic-controlled Christian Seminaries and Universities)
are wholly ignorant to the very existence of the Kenite, even though God
Himself promised that they would be here till the end: "Therefore
thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Jonadab the son
of Rechab [a Kenite]
shall not want a man to stand before me for ever."
(Jer 35:19).
Matt 13:24-30
24 Another parable put he [Jesus]
forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man
which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the
wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then
appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir,
didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it
tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said
unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay
[no]; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye
root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of
harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together
first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them:
but gather the wheat into my barn.
[...]
34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and
without a parable spake he not unto them:
35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet,
saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which
have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and
his [Jesus'] disciples
[the 12] came unto him,
saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field
[explain that parable to us, we do not under its
meaning].
37 He answered and said unto them, He that
soweth the good seed
is the Son of man;
38 The field
is the world; the good seed are the
children of the
kingdom;
but the tares are the
children of the
wicked one;*
39 The enemy
that sowed them is
the devil;
the harvest is the end of the world; and the
reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so
shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather
out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do
iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be
wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of
their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
KJV
* 1
John 3:12
12 Not as Cain, who was of that
wicked one,
and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own
works were evil, and his brother's righteous. KJV
[And Cain is the father of the
Kenite race]
But on the same token, you have never heard me
call any specific man a Kenite, save for very few at the top. And you
have never seen me on this Website listing the identifiable traits of a
Kenite, other than to say that they are best identified spiritually.
And as you know, not all "Jewish" people are these Kenites, only a very
small cadre at the top. Most "Jews" are simply unsaved Gentiles who
have been lied to and have been made to believe that they are the
descendants of Abraham, Isaac, AND Jacob/Israel, and thus that they are
Israelites themselves. They are not. And not one of the Bible
Scriptures pertaining to Israel pertain to them, including the promises.
Any "Judaic" who thinks that he is
covered under the first Covenant from the Old Testament is in for a
shock; for, over 95% of people calling themselves "Jews" today are not
"Jews" but rather are Khazars (Ashkenazi 'Jews'), and the Old
Covenant of the Hebrew Bible was never made to their ancestors.
But it doesn't matter anyway, because the New Testament (New Covenant)
ended the Old Testament (Old Covenant), and none can be saved today
under the Old Covenant: "In that he
[God] saith, A new covenant,
he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is
ready to vanish away." (Heb 8:13). And now today, the only
way for the faithful to come to God is through His Messiah Jesus Christ
whom He sent in fulfillment of His promise to Israel (and later to all
the world, to all peoples of the Christian persuasion).
Old Testament prophecy:
Ezek 36:22-28
22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord God;
I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy
name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye
went.
23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the
heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the
heathen shall know that I am the Lord, saith the Lord God, when I
shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of
all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean:
from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse
you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit
[the Holy Spirit]
will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out
of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit [the
Holy Spirit] within you, and
cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments,
and do them.
28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and
ye shall be my people, and I will be your God. KJV
New Testament partial fulfillment
of the above prophecy at the First Advent of Jesus Christ, and to be
fully fulfilled at the Messiah's Second Advent:
1 John 4:12-15
12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God
dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he
hath given us of his Spirit [the Holy Spirit].
14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to
be the Saviour of the world.
15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God
dwelleth in him, and he in God. KJV
Heb 7:22-8:13
22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament
[covenant, testament — Grk. #1242].
[...]
8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come,
saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant
[testament, covenant — Grk. #1242 (throughout)]
with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in
the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of
Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded
them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of
Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into
their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a
God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man
his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the
least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their
sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old.
Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
KJV
John 14:8-21
8 Philip saith unto him [Jesus],
Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet
hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath
seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?
the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the
Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else
believe me for the very works' sake.
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the
works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall
he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the
Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter [the Holy Spirit],
that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth [the Holy Spirit];
whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither
knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and
[the Holy Spirit] shall
be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you
[by the Holy Spirit].
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see
me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me,
and I in you.
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that
loveth me: and he that loveth me [all
true Christians] shall be loved of
my Father, and I will love him [all true
Christians], and will manifest
myself to him [all true Christians].
KJV
So, we see that the Holy Trinity
(the Godhead) was spoken of in the Old Testament as well, it just wasn't
explained yet; the Holy Spirit was spoken of in the Old Testament, God
just didn't fully explain it then; the Messiah Jesus Christ was spoken
of in the Old Testament, and Israel should have known Him when He came;
but many did not, and rather than accepting Him they murdered Him.
Thus, many of the Old Testament prophecies of Messiah are yet
unfinished, they are partially fulfilled, and won't be fully fulfilled
until they see the Son of God Jesus Christ as the Messiah of God.
That shall happen at the Second Advent of Jesus Christ. Then comes
the end and the fulfillment of all things that were written. That
is not to say that they shall be saved, though.
Matt 23:37-39
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and
stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have
gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens
under her wings, and ye would not!
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye
shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
KJV
Rev 1:7-8
7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see
him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds
of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the
Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
KJV
The great and terrible Second Advent of
God's Messiah, Jesus Christ, bringing reward to the faithful and the
wrath of God to the unbeliever and unfaithful:
Rev 19:11-21
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he
[Jesus Christ] that sat
upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he
doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many
crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his
name is called The Word of God
[Jesus Christ - Jhn 1:1].
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon
white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he
should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod
of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and
wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written,
KING OF KINGS, AND Lord OF Lords.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud
voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come
and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains,
and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them
that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both
small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their
armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the
horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that
wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had
received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image.
These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with
brimstone.
21 And the remnant [all unsaved
humans; i.e.,
non-true-Christians]
were slain with the sword of him
[Jesus Christ] that sat upon the horse,
which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were
filled with their flesh. KJV
Ironically, I'm a better friend to
"Jews" than their corrupt, Biblically-illiterate, Babylonian
Talmud-drenched, apostate rabbis are. And by not talking about
this, when I know it, would be contributing to their eternal deaths
because many of them (the 'religious Jews') wrongly assume that because
they are "Jews" they have a free ticket to paradise. There is only one
ticket to paradise, and it isn't free—Jesus paid the ultimate price for
each of our tickets of entry. No Jesus Christ = no salvation. Period.
And again for emphasis, PERIOD!
Acts 4:10-12
10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that
by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth,
whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth
this man stand here before you whole.
11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which
is become the head of the corner.
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is
none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be
saved. KJV
Jesus is the only way to eternal life with God
Almighty:
John 14:6-9
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the
truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from
henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth
us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet
hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me
hath seen the
Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? KJV
Matt 17:5-13
5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and
behold a voice [of God]
out of the cloud, which said, This
[Jesus Christ] is my beloved Son, in
whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were
sore afraid.
7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not
afraid.
8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save
Jesus only.
9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them,
saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen
again from the dead.
10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes
that Elias [Elijah - Mal 4:5]
must first come?
11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias
[Elijah] truly shall
first come, and restore all things.
12 But I say unto you, That Elias
[Elijah] is come already,
and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed
[they beheaded him (John the Baptist)].
Likewise shall also the Son of man [Jesus]
suffer of them
[they would go on to crucify Him].
13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the
Baptist [as coming in the spirit of Elijah, in
fulfillment of Mal 4:5]. KJV
There is only One whom can stand between us and
the Great Judgment of God, no one of us could ever live a perfect enough
life on our own to please God:
Rom 3:19-28
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to
them who are under the law [the Old
Covenant/Old Testament]: that every mouth may be stopped, and
all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be
justified in his sight [no human
could possibly live up to every rule in the Old Testament perfectly]:
for by the law is the knowledge of sin
[the Old Testament law showed us our
weakness and error before God so that we would know].
21 But now the righteousness of God without
[separated from, aside from]
the law is manifested [in Jesus
Christ as prophesied], being witnessed by the law and the
prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of
Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that
believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all
have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified [forgiven, freed]
freely by his [God's]
grace through the redemption that
is in Christ Jesus:
25 [this Jesus] Whom God hath
set forth to be a propitiation
[atoning victim, one who pays our sin
debt] through faith in his blood, to
declare his righteousness for the remission of sins
[forgiveness, freedom from guilt] that
are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might
be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in
Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works?
Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith
without the deeds of the law. KJV
John 3:15-18
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have
eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only
begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have
everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but
that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that
believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not
believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. KJV
But I know that you know that. But some who
may read this may not know. They ought to be told the truth, no matter
how painful it may be. Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Buddhists, Hindus,
Agnostics—it doesn't matter—no matter how "good" they may be, appear,
and act, they still fall short of God's expectations and demands. "For
all have sinned, and come short of the glory of
God" (Rom 3:23). That is why God sent Jesus to stand in the gap
for us, to lift us up, to forgive us, to make us acceptable to God by
His own goodness.
However, one must believe upon Jesus
to be covered under the sacrifice and payment of sin-debt by Jesus.
Those who not believe in Jesus Christ and repent, then shall stand on
Judgment Day before god and be responsible for every single sin that
they did from when they first reached the age of accountability to the
moment of their death. I don't care how good someone may be today,
there is no way that anyone can imagine that he/she has led a sinless
life.
Some (unbelievers) ask why God is such a cruel
God. Cruel? God made law and told man that if he disobeys that law he
dies. Do not even we expect of, and punish, our children? But God
didn't stop there. When He (fore)knew that man could never live up to
that perfect law, He Himself (God) came to this Earth (manifest in the
flesh as Jesus Christ) and died on the cross for our sins and
disobedience to Him. This we would not do for our own disobedient
children. So God came and was punished for what He commanded us to be
under. He paid our price where we could not.
So, how is that cruel?!? It's like a Cop
arresting us, and then the Cop goes and does our time in prison for us,
for our transgressions. And all God asked (demanded) in return is
that we would believe upon that Jesus Christ. And we
should all try harder to do better in our lives regarding sin and error.
Once we believe in Jesus Christ, God sends His Holy Spirit into our
hearts and day by year we get better, we feel guilty doing things that
once before we had no shame. He perfects us little by little, But we
can never be perfect on our own. That's what Jesus does, Jesus stands
in the gap for us and by His suffering for our sin we are make perfect
(forgiven) by God. Christians aren't perfect, as anyone knows, but we
try, and we are forgiven upon repentance to God in Jesus' name.
They (all of the world's unsaved unbelievers:
Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Buddhists, Hindus, Agnostics, etc.) need
to know the truth whereby they might fear and convert to Jesus
Christ and be saved and live. But that happens so very rarely with
Judaics. When they deny Christ (and hate Him, which they do) in
their religion, a spirit comes upon them that isn't the Holy Spirit of
God. No other religion hates Jesus Christ other than Judaism,
It is true that other religions do not believe in Jesus, but they do not
hate Him (nor did they lie against Him and have Him murdered
upon their own false witness). The spirit of Talmudic Judaism is
the evil spirit of the devil; the Spirit of Christianity is the Holy
Spirit of God. And you can't serve two Spirit/spirits any more than you
can serve two masters:
Luke 16:13
13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he
will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the
one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and
mammon. KJV
And this new brand of heretic (like
pastor Rev. John Hagee,
etc.) that co-fellowships with unsaved Jews and doesn't tell them
that they are dead without Jesus Christ are causing much trouble in the
churches and are dragging many so-called Christians ("Christian-Zionists,"
and "Judeo-Christians," including the new Catholics) down into into jeopardy
with them:
2 Cor 6:14-18
14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what
fellowship hath
righteousness with
unrighteousness?
and what communion hath
light with
darkness?
15 And what concord hath
Christ with
Belial?
or what part hath he
that believeth with an
infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the
temple of God
with idols?
for ye
are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in
them [by the Holy Spirit of God]
l be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among
them, and be
ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the
unclean thing;
and I
will receive you,
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and
daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. KJV
But I know that you know that as well. But the new breed of
"ecumenical", "Christian-Zionists," "Judeo-Christians,"
etc., etc., etc., need to learn it before it is too late for
their souls. They need to "come out from among
them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord" (2nd Cor 6:17) before
it is too late for them. One day too late.
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Doubting the official 911 story, is that crazy? ; and
Ezekiel 38-39
A reader writes:
You have truly gone off berserk in your 911
conspiracy rants. With
all the opposing video on you tube, its amazing that you discredit
all your reasonable work with this looney, going main stream crowd
you hang out with.
compare this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBYnUyx4kw8
[WBSG Note: this video is the
one that actually looks doctored, not the below one as you imply!
This video has the World trade Center kinking, bending, and folding
over—never seen in any other 911 video before.]
to the nearly same video that shows what appears to
be termite. You
will notice that the video has been doctored
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExrVgioIXvk
more proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLMvU4LwCp4
[WBSG Note: this video is
confusing the loud bang from TNT and the silent Thermate. Thermate
burns through, explosives explode through. Thermate is silent,
the "'banging" that you hear in 911 videos is the floors slapping
down upon each other.]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhf4BuUP_zQ&NR=1
[WBSG Note: Doesn't prove
anything, other than we aren't sure what kind of aircraft/missile
hit the Pentagon. And the video is suspicious because it
completely ignores the most damning evidence, in that before the
collapse, the hole in the pentagon was round and smaller than the
diameter of the supposed civilian 757 aircraft. Also while we saw
the other plane's wings cut their way through the steel exterior
framing of the World trade Center wall, the titanium engine at the
Pentagon didn't even break the windows on either side of the hole
where it would have hit. Also, no wings outside of the
building and no (initial) hole big enough for them to go into the
building. This video pretends that this is not an important
point, and thus is disingenuous at best. It also shows engine
parts that they say got there from the crash that weren't used on
the 757, but fails to mention that little tidbit.]
Yours Truly
[Xxxxxx]
Answer:
Hello. You are a little loose with the term "proof."
But believe what you want. Eventually the truth shall come out and then
I will accept your apology.
Mark 4:22
22 For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither
was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad. KJV
I have taken a beating from a few people
(very very few) over my position that the official 911 reports are not
true. But I have examined the evidence and am secure in my position. I
refuse to change my opinion or hide my position because it is easier to
roll-over and play stupid than it is to stand up for what I believe to
be the truth, like so many other weak-hearts seem to be doing nowadays.
Polls show that 33% of Americans doubt the official 911 story (and the
majority of people overseas, not anchored to American
Judaic-controlled media, doubt the official 911 story), you won't find
many with the hoss to go on record saying it. Presidential
candidate Ron Paul knows it, but even he hasn't got the guts to say it.
Because if he did then people like you then wouldn't vote for him.
And if you think the Illuminatus
Bill Clinton's recent "How dare you" (say 911 was an inside job)
speech means one wit to me, you are sadly mistaken. And that's not
the first time Clinton used the powerful "How dare you" line and feigned
shock. And He's right in there with them, so is the closeted
Lesbian, the heir apparent to the American empire, his Illuminatus wife
Hillary (Illuminati, 3rd degree Van Dam).
You are being fed after-the-fact
cover-up disinformation and you are accepting it because your mind
cannot fathom the possibility that governments lie to their people and
kill them to start wars and impose Martial Law conditions. (Or, we
must also entertain the possibility that you yourself are engaged in
cover-up disinformation.)
Had you only spent more time in
the history books than on YouTube you would have known about Nero's
blaming of the Christians for arson, the German soldiers hacking off
Belgium baby's arms lie, the Sinking of the Lusitania, the Reichstag
Fire, Pearl Harbor, the Bay of Tonkin, the Iraqi soldiers tossing
Kuwaiti babies out of incubators onto the floor lie, etc.
Listen, 911 was the result of
complicity at the highest levels of government by a shadow government
(the no-names-necessary) with the assistance of the NSA, and the Mossad;
with the full foreknowledge of at least V.P. Dick Cheney and possibly
President George W. Bush (at least after the fact in Bush's
case). The evidence is there, all that is wanting is a key inside
admission. The most shocking thing is that an admission is going
to be forthcoming when it is advantageous to fracture America with the
disclosure.
We can't always sure of what did
happen, of how it was exactly done, but we are certain of how it
could not have happened, and that is the official
version's way.
If people can be so easily fooled
by 911, or are so afraid to voice dissent for "reputation's sake," how
will they withstand the great deception in the Tribulation, when belief
upon the Jesus Christ of the Bible shall be out of style and outlawed?
We hadn't even finished the
mission in Afghanistan before we marched into Iraq, and we aren't even
done in Iraq and the sabers are rattling to bomb Iran, with even dovish
Democrats and lily-livered France (with their new Jewish President,
Nicolas Sarcozy) calling for the aerial bombardment of the Islamic
Republic of Iran. And the targeted states are basically Israel's
main enemies in the Mideast, and two of the only five remaining
substantial nations on the Earth without a (Judaic)
Rothschild-controlled central bank. What a "coincidence," huh?
And without Iraq and Iran there is no substantial Islamic state threat
to the New World Order, all other Islamic states have been bought-off or
they are too weak to matter. Every Communist and Socialist nation
is NWO-ready, as are all so-called "Democratic" states. Only the
Islamic Kingdoms, Republics, and dictatorships were problematic.
Dictatorships are overturned by war, Republics by
revolution, and Kingdoms by infiltration and bribery. And
"Democratic" states are taken by installing their own leaders at the
helm, thus taking over a whole three-billion population country by
owning less than two hundred key men.
Now, I love my country, but not to
the point of blindness. We speak of weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq and now with Iran, but the reality of the matter is
that America has become a weapon of mass destruction. And It's not
that the average American citizen wants to be so—we like people, and
want friends, and we what other nations to like us—it is because the
International Judaics who exercise absolute control over America have
determined to use us to subdue the world to bring in their New
World Order. America isn't the "good guy" anymore, sad to say.
That is well known everywhere except in America.
Wake up, please; and get on the
ball. It's almost laughable to have to actually debate this with
you. And yes I supplied the links to all your videos above from
your E-mail. I am transparent.
This whole thing is planned, all
of it. And if you aren't willing to go into Iran, then they will
see to it that you get "a good reason" to go. And pretty soon
other nations, sensing our imperial ambitions, will join together to
attack us, and it isn't going to be pretty. Ezekiel 38 and 39
anybody? Where "Israel" is where the (true) Israel people are, not those
strangers and Khazars in the un-Biblical modern day nation state of
so-called Israel. America and the Christian West are the ones to
be attacked from the North by Russia & Co. (over the North Pole).
You do notice the plural in the
below, the mountains
(nations) of Israel:
Ezek 38:8
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou
shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword,
and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains
of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is
brought forth out of the nations,
and they shall dwell safely all of them.
KJV
At the time of the above writing
it could never be said that Palestine was always waste, but at that time
America, Canada, and much of Europe was vacant. And even till this
day there has always been a population in Palestine (the geographical
location of the so-called modern day nation state of Israel). Even
when Judah was taken to Babylon the Edomites moved up into Judea (and
then later racially mixed with the returning remnant of Judah after
their 70 years captivity). Below we see again the nations
(mountains) of Israel being attacked from the North:
Ezek 39:1-2
39 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus
saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief
prince of Meshech and Tubal:
2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee,
and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will
bring thee upon the mountains
of Israel: KJV

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The reader writes back:
I am embarrassed for you and us. How can a
student of the Word fall for such a flood of lies? Did you watch
both vids? My links are checked out.
Clearly if you examine the pixels where the thermite is in one
vid compared to the position where there is fire in the other
vid you notice the signs of manipulation.
Which one is genuwine?
Please be honest. Wake up.
I'm not new at this. I also have been studying this issue
probably longer than you for i have debated this with a brother
sinse 2002. I'm not about to show you how much i know because as
a student you ought to know how to discern fact from fiction
related to end time events.
Ps. a missle does not knock over 4 light poles in a wide area on
its way to its target. LOL
HaaaaaaaaaaaHEEEEEEEAahahahahhaaaaaaaaaraeeaeaeeaeaeeaeee.
compare this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBYnUyx4kw8
to the nearly same video that shows what appears to be termite.
You will notice that the video has been doctored
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExrVgioIXvk
agape
[Xxxxxxx]
Answer:
Sir, please. Look at your above two videos again.
In the one
with the Thermate molten-metal runoff it is before the
collapse. In your
first video
it is just prior to the collapse and the Thermate in that
section had already been used. The final collapse sequence starts
when the inner core-columns are severed by OTHER Thermate charges.
For your video to prove anything, it would have
to be segments of the same TIME. You can't go 30-60 seconds earlier
and compare it with a video from the future and then say, A-Ha!,
they don't match up!
Of course they don't match, they are shot at
different points in time. A capsizing ship just looks
like swirling water when you film the site at a later moment in
time.
"Ps. a missle does not knock over 4 light
poles in a wide area on its way to its target. LOL
HaaaaaaaaaaaHEEEEEEEAahahahahhaaaaaaaaaraeeaeaeeaeaeeaeee".
Um, my exact words were: "we
aren't sure what kind of
aircraft/missile hit the Pentagon."
And Cruise missiles have short stubby wings, by
the way; which could account for the aluminum wreckage on the lawn
(assuming that it wasn't planted there after the fact).
As for the light poles: I do not know the
placement of them, and quite frankly after the way your animated
video misrepresented the wings crashing through the Pentagon walls
(which they didn't), I can't take their word on anything, including
light pole placement.
Below is a still from your video
animation inaccurately depicting the wings going into the building
by crashing through the walls of the pentagon:

Now compare actual photos below
of the entry hole in the Pentagon before
the collapse of the entire wall (this is the photo that the press
doesn't show, they show the pictures of the collapsed wall so that
it looks like the planes wings entered to building. This is
just plain subterfuge and disinformation, because the same
"you-know-who's" who control the media committed the 911 attacks).
Below two photos courteously of:
911 Lies. It should be noted that the overlays depicting
the entry penetrations are inconsistent in the below two photos,
probably by an error of the illustrator. The first photo is
inaccurately labeled in the wrong place. (This could
innocently happen if they made the arrow and circle, placed it on
the photo, and then enlarged the photo before saving it, thus making
the arrow and circle appear on a different part of the picture.
Sloppy work, which only further confuses the matter, sad to say.)
However, we offer the pictures simply to illustrate that a 757 could
not have hit the pentagon; for if it did, either the support columns
would be missing or the wings would be found outside of the building
on the lawn.

You should note that there is no entry point
for the wings of a 757. Where did the wings go? Notice also the
unbroken support pillars on either side of the hole where wings loaded full
of jet fuel and carrying heavy jet engines are supposed to have
slapped into at 400-530 miles an hour.
A good video on the Pentagon
attack is here:
http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php
Back to the light poles
Ironically there is a highway traffic camera
that points right at those light poles and the approach route of the
airplane to the Pentagon. This camera would have caught the
plane at least, and a confiscated gas station surveillance video
would have shown the actual impact, but the
Government won't release those videos. Why?
My impressions about the hollow aluminum
light poles is that if they were indeed stuck by the heavy engines
of a 757 aircraft traveling 400+ miles an hour that you would have
to search for them maybe a 1/4 or a 1/2 mile away. (I have heard
estimates of between 400 and 530 miles per hour.) I would also
venture to guess that they wouldn't snap off at the base but rather
bend in half at the impact point and then rip out of the ground or
sever in half. The light poles look like they were knocked over
sustaining very little damage comparatively. Another thing to
consider about the light poles is that an aircraft and/or missile
flying right past them at 400+ miles an hour would create an instant
400+ mile an hour wind. This is over twice the fastest wind of our
worst hurricanes. These poles are not designed to withstand that
force of a gale and would have been knocked to the ground as shown
in your videos.
Like I said, we don't know exactly what
did happen (because the Government has
withheld key evidence and surveillance videos), but it is clear with
the slightest critical look that what they said happened,
could not have happened that way.
Once again, believe what you wish, this is a
free country. But at the end of the day when the evidence comes
out, I will accept your apology.
911 is not my area of
expertise nor is it the focus of my work. You are trying to
push me into a long drawn-out debate on the matter. But
where's the time? I have other pressing matters to attend to.
Since 911 seems to be your main focus, why don't you do your own
research and not draft me into having to debunk you at every turn?
The bottom line is that at the
first when the 911-truthers presented their evidence, the
"government" ignored them. Then when they started making good points
and other people started seeing it their way, the "government"
shills (Sayanim?) started flooding the Internet with "alternative
views" and outright lies, distortions, and disinformation.
Finally they attempted to ridicule anyone who doesn't accept the
"official story." The end result is that the average person is
confused and sick of the matter and has closed their ears to the
subject one way or the other. In other words, the conspirators
got what they wanted. Mission accomplished.
It was just that easy
for them to stage attacks against this nation and get away with it.
And they got all their wars and Martial Law legislation to boot!
A perfect piece of evil genius.
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The reader writes back:
Go research the names of those who died.
http://www.september11victims.com/september11victims/victims_list.htm
and dont give some hair brained apologist answer to your
obvious
fictional conspiracy.
The Flood of Lies..., may the times be shortened...even the
elect
will be decieved.
agape
[Xxxxxxx]
Answer:
How does this injure the memory of the dead
victims? I would think that it would be insulting to let the
real murderers get away with it, which is what is happening
today.
The real murders are profiting on the
sacrifice of the victims. And the one's that are telling you
that this is okay are the murderers themselves. So I do not
dishonor the memory of the dead, those who protect the
conspiracy that killed them do.
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The reader writes back:
Subject: your entry hole is a exit
hole...thought i'd remind you

This
photograph from outside of the C-Ring punch-out hole gives a
sense of the lack of obstructions between the facade and the
C-Ring exterior wall. One can see clear through the C-, D-,
and E- Rings to a pair of windows in the facade on the right
and the northmost end of the entry impact punctures on the
left.
Answer:
You are correct about that picture. But that
wasn't the picture I sent you. However, since I couldn't verify my
photo I did not post it.
But that brings up another problem for you;
namely this: How did an aluminum aircraft penetrate six concrete
reinforced walls (not to mention all the concrete interior pillars)
and then leave the same size exit hole as its entry hole, and then
disappear outside???

Exit hole, but no airplane
Got you on that one, huh?
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A Black (Christian) reader's perspective on Race and crime
A (Black) reader writes:
Hi Nick. My name is [Xxxxx] and I am a 30 year old
black man in Atlanta. I've had "eyes to see" since I was 25 years
old. I feel so grateful to our Father for allowing me to see truth.
I struggle with understanding why He would grant someone like me,
with so many shortcomings, access to His truth.
But before I digress, let me first say that I
appreciate your ministry so much. I hope you realize how many people
you guys are helping everyday. And though I appreciate what you call
"telling it like it is" when it comes to blacks and hispanics, I
take issue with what appears to be a lack of being fair and
balanced. I can agree that the state of my people is downright
shameful to say the least [download the PDF report:
The Color of
Crime, or
View as HTML]. My heart breaks just
looking at how our MINDSET is destroying us. You make mention of
several statistics which I'm sure are probable more accurate than I
would like to admit. However, I don't hear you ever make mention (at
least I haven't read it yet) of the SYSTEMATIC degradation of blacks
by the hands of people with white skin.
Now I use that term "systematic" loosely
because it may sound like a "crutch" or excuse for my people. I
personally feel that the condition of my people TODAY is 100 percent
our responsiblity. However, we can't ignore the history of racism
initiated by whites in this country. It's somewhat like the 50 year
old alcoholic or crack addict. They are 100 percent responsible for
their actions. But isn't it interesting when looking at their
childhood, you'll usually find molestation, divorce, death, or some
other traumatic experience.
When looking at the history of blacks in this
country, it was WHITES(whether Kenites/Jews or whatever) that beat,
raped, and murdered black Americans in the name of slavery. It was
WHITE men that drew dipictions of blacks with huge lips and rear
ends and tar like skin to make a mockery of us. It was WHITE men
that put up "whites only" and "coloreds only" signs. It was a small
number of WHITE men that formed the KKK.
It was WHITE families that taught their children
that blacks were inferior by making them get out of swimming pools
if a black got in. (There are people alive today that can attest to
that) Now granted, these white men and women were not Christians,
but neither are the blacks that make up those horrible statistics.
My main point is that if we are going to broadcast the horrific
black statistics, let's also broadcast the horrific white statistics
that we can say CONTRIBUTED (not an excuse) to our present day
status. Let's not for a moment pretend that there is some sort of
inherit evil that blacks and hispanics embrace.
I've been fortunate in my life that the racial
divide hasn't taken over my mind. I love all people. And yes, I do
live in a predominantly white neighborhood because of the criminal
element that I refuse to subject my family to. It hurts so much to
say that but truth is truth. Sorry for this question/comment being
so long. Thank you and God bless.
Answer:
Hello [Xxxxx]: In fairness and for
balance I shall post your comments without comment or alteration, other than
to break your one large paragraph into smaller segments for easier
readability on a computer screen (without your name, of course). Thank
you for sharing your perspective.
Oh
well, I just can't help but make one comment: You say that Blacks are
"100 percent responsible for their actions"
but then you say (with a disclaimer): "the horrific white
statistics that we can say CONTRIBUTED (not an excuse) to our present day
status"
So which is it, are Blacks responsible for their actions, or did "Whitey
make them do it?"
I mean, isn't every Black's problem
laid at the feet of the genetically-ingrained White Racist people?
I know that you are a good Christian
man, and that you mean well with your above. And I appreciate the
moments of painful honesty expressed by yourself. I truly respect you
for that. I also accept you as a Christian brother and welcome you to
WBSG; I hope that you will stay, and bring friends. However, until
Black men in general start acting like men and not like cry-baby children
looking for their allowance from the great White daddy (government), and
completely loosing it and falling apart when some White person utters
the wrong word (a word that they say a 100 times a day to each other, I
might add), they shall ever live a life of a ruined people. The
Black's greatest enemy is other Blacks. Whites generally actually
treat Blacks better than other Blacks treat Blacks, which is why you prefer
to live in a White neighborhood and only venture into Black neighborhoods
when you have to. You are allowed to do that because you are Black;
but when a White does it, it is called "Racism." Of course there are
exceptions to every rule, and there are abuses on both sides. I hope
my reply is accepted by you in the softness that it was intended.
Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
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The same reader writes back:
Subject: Response to your answer
Hi Nick. Thanks for answering in such a prompt way. I must say that it's
unfortunate how a persons' true thoughts may not come across in
written form. At any rate, I still did not hear you address your
thoughts on the SYSTEMATIC degredation (I'm referencing the past,
not present) of blacks in this country. I don't think there is a
soul alive that could seriously debate that fact.
I still did not hear you address the horrific actions that
white Americans were a part of. Do you think that the examples I
mentioned (regarding whites degrading blacks) really happened or
not. Did white men and women make their children get out of pools
when blacks entered or not? Did white men draw horrific dipictions
of blacks with huge lips and butts as a mockery or not? Did white
men put up "whites only" signs or not? Did white men rape, murder,
and beat blacks in the name of slavery or not? Is it a figment of
our imagination.
I was able to accept that the horrific statistics regarding my
people are more accurate than I would like them to be. Can you grant
me the same? Can you ACKNOWLEDGE what WHITE men did or is it too
painful? If you can take yourself away from the PRESENT for one
moment, and look at the PAST. And yes, we (blacks) are 100 percent
responsible for our actions, yet at the same time, there are
CONTRIBUTORS, not excuses. That's just an outright fact.
My basic point is not so much about what your saying as it is
what your NOT saying. If a person living under a rock for the last
100 years began to analyze the status of black America, don't you
think they would be remiss in not analyzing the beginning? I hope my
true feelings are coming across because I am the LAST black man on
Earth to make excuses. I detest clowns like (Reverends) Jesse
Jackson and Al Sharpton. I'm a Republican, pay my taxes, own my
home, hate big government, and detest "cry babies", as you would
call them. I don't stand for what's "black", but what's right.
I think you are a good man, Nick, I just think if your going to
"tell it like it is" with my peoples' present, then please "tell it
like it is" with your peoples' past which contributed, even if but a
bit, to the MINDSET of my people. Keep up the excellent work and I
can't wait for Jesus to return (after the false, of course) to
straighten out this mess. At the end of the day, I think we both
know what we wrestle against, and it aint black vs white. Out of
respect for your Q&A forum, this will be my last reply. Thank you
and God bless.
Answer:
Hello again. I hope that I haven't offended you, that was not my intent.
And thank you for continuing the dialog.
Regarding where you said:
"Do you think that the examples I mentioned (regarding whites degrading
blacks) really happened or not. Did white men and women make their
children get out of pools when blacks entered or not? Did white men draw
horrific dipictions of blacks with huge lips and butts as a mockery or
not? Did white men put up "whites only" signs or not? Did white men
rape, murder, and beat blacks in the name of slavery or not? Is it a
figment of our imagination. I was able to accept that the horrific
statistics regarding my people are more accurate than I would like them
to be. Can you grant me the same? Can you ACKNOWLEDGE what WHITE men did
or is it too painful? If you can take yourself away from the PRESENT for
one moment, and look at the PAST."
Can't you see the problem? It is in your last word above. Those things are
"PAST." But you won't let them go.
Did some White people do some bad things to some Black people two centuries
ago? I'm sure they did. Did some White people do some bad things to some
Black people sixty years ago? I'm sure they did.
But did the White people living today do them? And does what other
White people did to other Black people in the past justify what a Black
person does to a White person today? And are you saying that all the Blacks
were little angels way back then, and that there wasn’t excesses on
their part? Is that how you have learned your history? Or, would you
say that since some (comparatively few) Whites had slaves that anything any
Black did to any White was justified? Maybe that is the origin of the
"blame Whitey"?
I never owned a slave, raped a slave, sold a slave. I never captured anyone
in Africa and shipped them here. I never drew a caricature of a Black
person with large lips. I never put up a “Whites only” sign on any water
fountain, nor have I ever got out of the swimming pool when a Black person
jumped in. And guess what, you have not been on the receiving end of that
either. But you have benefited from it, I haven’t.
Do you suppose that Blacks are the only people to have suffered in the
course of history? Did you know that there were White slaves millennia
before your ancestors were enslaved? You should know that, you are a
Christian and it is in your Bible. It happened in Egypt. Now, do I as an
Anglo-Saxon descendant of those Israelites hold a grudge against the
descendants of the Egyptians? Do I blame them every time I score poorly on
a test, don't get that job, get cut-off in traffic, don’t get the loan, or
get arrested?
Of course not, for that would simply be excuse-making on my part. My
ancestors grabbed themselves up by the bootstraps and built civilizations,
they built the world as you now know it. Your ancestors in Africa hadn’t
even invented a wheel nor had a written language when my Dutch brothers came
and settled in South Africa and set up missions and schools. How can you
blame that on the White man? The White man brought peace and plenty and
safety to Africa.
Oh, I know that the Media Judaics have lied to you about that. They told
you that Apartheid was evil and that Whites were evil for running the
government in South Africa. Well, someone had to run it. But your people
were tricked into overthrowing the Whites and raping and murdering them
stealing their working farms which lay dormant today while a continent
starves (something the Judeo-media doesn’t report on). And now you have
Black rule again, and the people are starving again, and they are hacking
each other up with machetes in tribal warfare again, and grown Black men are
raping baby girls because their Voodoo shamans told them that "sex" with a
virgin cures AIDS. And one in three men, women, and children in Africa is
HIV-positive. Sub-Saharan Africa is a dying continent. Can't you see
it?
Do you want to know why your people were seduced into overthrowing White
rule in Africa? It was so that the Jewish Debeers, Rothschilds, etc.
etc., etc., could rape your gold and diamond mines while your people eat
mud cakes with a little straw and weeds to sustain their children. People
weren’t starving under Apartheid, people had jobs and security under
Apartheid. They had law and order, their women weren't raped multiple
times before they reached the age of 20.
Apartheid was good for the average Black in South Africa. You read that
right. Study the matter independent of the Judeo-propagandists. Must I
point out to you that Blacks do not self-govern well? They don’t get along
with each other, it’s always tribal warfare. Today that plays out on
America’s streets in the cities. Look out across the world at all-Black
nations under Black rule. It is always a military strongman who holds the
people down through poverty, iron rule, and secret police. In many African
nations they just traded one ruling government for another ruling man; and
they are none the better off for it. In fact they are worse off for
it.
But Apartheid was bad for the International Judaic robber-barons. So they
took a murderer and a terrorist out of prison, rewrote history, and you got
the make-over Judaic-controlled Nelson Mandela as a hero. The Judaics gave
you all your heroes. Take your Martin Luther King Jr., he was Judaic-made
man. His closest advisor (handler) was a Jewish man who wrote King’s
speeches, set King’s policies. "Reverend" Martin Luther King Jr. was a
card-carrying Communist. He was unfaithful to his wife and liked to buy
White prostitutes. In fact, Martin Luther King Jr. spent the evening before
his assassination beating up a White prostitute in his hotel room. You have
been lied to by people (Judaics) who are using you.
And at the end of the day they are going to send you out into the streets,
“no justice—no
peace,” and slaughter you. Who do you think the International Judaics are
building the concentration camps in America for? You do remember that the
REX-84 PROGRAM was designed to imprison in camps, Hispanics. After setting
them loose on society, how long do you think that the Int. Judaics are going
to allow Black and Hispanic street gangs to roam free? In Katrina they
declared martial law and sent in Blackwater Mercenaries to subdue the
rampaging Black gangs. Then the Judaic-controlled media went into spin
mode and covered it all up.
Today, in many parts of Africa they are all suffering under corrupt Black
leaders who sold out to the International Judaics (Just like Jesse Jackson
and wannabe Al Sharpton are doing here in America).
Like I said: Black people are Black people’s worst enemies. All this
complaining about what some White people did centuries ago; but who has the
courage to address the fact that the number-one cause of death for young
Black males is other young Black males? And don’t suppose to call them all
victims, most are killed in gang rivalries, turf warfare, competition over
lucrative narcotic markets, or pride-killings because “conflict management”
doesn’t seem to be a strong point in Blacks. And a major cause of death for
Black females is their Black boyfriends, husbands, and ex’s (and White women
who date Black men suffer at the same rate). How are we going to blame that
on slavery, or White men, on segregated water fountains, or on the man on
the moon?
I wonder if you know that
the
Irish were enslaved by the Judaics who controlled England? I wonder if
you know that after World War Two, four million German civilians were
enslaved in the USSR, France, Belgian, Czechoslovakia,
and
England? Of course you don’t know that, the International Judaics have kept
it from you, and it was them that did it. But any library would bear me
out. Below is an excerpt from my upcoming book:
...The picture below is a facsimile
of the afore-mentioned document from the Harry S. Truman Library &
Museum:

The four million German citizens are listed separate from the 90,000 Nazis.
Have you any tears for my German ancestors who were first victimized by the
Nazis then by the Allies? I didn't think so. After all, they
were just Germans. No "German History Month" for those innocent German
civilians. The vengeance-crazed (and misinformed) Judaics have smeared
the reputation of the average German citizen who had nothing to do with
Nazism. Not any more than you have anything to do with Pres. Bush's
Empire building.
And slavery is going on at this very instant. And guess what? It is Blacks
enslaving other Blacks in Africa and selling them into forced labor or for
ransom. But here in America Blacks pretend that they are the perennial
victims of the slave experience. There’s slaves in the Bible, slavery is
not a Black thing only. And who do you think captured and sold the Blacks
to the Jewish slave merchants? It was Blacks in other Black tribes who
sold other Blacks to the Jewish slavers for whisky and trinkets. (Did I say
"Jewish" slave merchants? Yes, see
Who Brought the Slaves to America?)
Louis Farrakhan also has a lot of research info on that fact. And since you
mentioned Whites raping Black slaves; Farrakhan also has a lot of info on
the JEWISH slave masters raping their female slaves. Judaics are not in the
White race, they are on their own, as they themselves claim. (They are
the Turko-Mongoloid Khazars, not Israelites or even Hebrews, nor even a Semitic
peoples for that matter). And it is a fact that Whites very, very, very,
rarely rape Black women. So your enemy is not the White man, it is the
International Judaics and many of their opportunist “lesser brethren” who
have caused you so much grief and then blamed it all on the White man (their
true target is the true-Israel Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian and
kindred peoples who just happen to be White).
And as much as you may hate to admit it, if it were not for slavery you
yourself may well be eating mud pies and practicing Voodoo on your way to
hell. Slavery Christianized (and educated) the American Blacks. But
that
Christianity is being taken away by the Black’s second worst enemy after
other Blacks: the International Judaics.
So please, Black people in America just need to get over the slavery thing
once and for all. You heard me right. Just get over it. Quit letting the
media-Judaics plaster Lynching pictures all over the TV ensuring that every
new generation of young Blacks keep the fires of hatred, shame, and
vengeance burning in their souls. Or else they shall never raise their
necks up from under the boots of their sell-out Black leaders who are
betraying them into the hands of their Judaic masters. If Blacks don't
forgive America for the slavery issue, they will never make it.
Once again, I hope that you take this in the kind spirit that I intend it.
And feel free to reply. I’m just not going to lie to you to be your pal.
If I have to lie to you then my friendship would not be real. Call it tough
love, if you will. But I also have the right (and duty) to defend myself
and my people from the legion of false accusations and corrupted history.
Why? Because those distortions and exaggerations and misapplication of
guilt is being used as the justification for all the predatory Black Hate
Crimes being committed against innocent Whites in what truly could be called
an epidemic. (Download the PDF report:
The Color of
Crime, or View as HTML.)
Whites aren't going to long put up with it, either. And then we all
loose; and the International Judaics get their Race Riots and their Martial
Law and their Tribulation leading to the seating of their god
satan/antichrist on the Temple Mount, Jerusalem.
The Judaics in
Hollywood made an over-dramatized and falsified movie called "Roots," and
with it they taught entire generations of Blacks a new spin on history.
After all, if it is on TV it must all be true, right? Did you know
that many Blacks were taken in and treated like family, rather than slaves?
Did you know that after they were freed many slaves stayed on the farms
under pay? Did you know that Blacks fought on the side of the South
during the Civil War? I know that you didn't learn it in the
Judaic-controlled school curriculum, if you do know it. You are
looking for me to apologize to you for slavery. I cannot do that
because I am not guilty of it. Do I ask you to apologize for the Black
crime waves? No, because you are not guilty of it.
May I close this E-mail with another E-mail from an honest and decent
Christian woman who just happens to be Black? She may have hit upon what is
ailing so many Blacks. She also rightly identifies the "media" as the
enflaming factor:
Subject: GROWING ANTI WHITE ATMOSPHERE
Hi Nick,
I have been reading
your website for the past 3 years and I want to start by
saying that I am so thankful for your work. I have been
truly enlightened! I am writing in response to your on going
writings on the growing anti white climate being created by
today's media. I am a black 27 year old female and I can
testify to the fact that black people (regular educated
black folk) are being heavily influenced by the media on
this subject. More and more I find myself defending white
people behind very racial comments spoken by people around
me regularly.
Additionally, some of
the biggest nationally syndicated radio and tv shows are
doing more shows on racism against blacks furthering
enraging blacks. And most of the info being given is non
researched and biased. Then to make matters worse these same
shows stand up for the irresponsible actions of rap artists
and people like the Jena 6 simply because they are black. I
don't understand it!
Black people wont ever
admit to how they really feel about white people, which is
instilled by them by their parents. Furthermore, black
people refuse to address the fact that we are morally
bankrupt. It is easier to focus on how everybody's "holding
us down".
Continue to speak the
truth because someone's listening!!!
Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
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The same reader writes back:
Hello Nick. Thanks for allowing me to respond yet
again. This will indeed be my last reply. Well, I was man enough to
publicly criticize you for your opinions on race relations in this
country, now I'll be man enough to publicly praise you for your
honesty.
Though I still believe you can be a little
"one-sided" on your views (on race relations), I took some time to
research some of the claims you made regarding Martin Luther King
Jr. As is turns out, you are right. It does appear that this man was
not only indeed a communist, but an outright fraud. I'm not
convinced about his "sexcapades" with prostitutes, but there has to
be a good reason that the FBI sealed those files (wire taps,
etc.) for fifty years.
Though he was never my "hero", it still comes as a
painful blow to have been misled. Though I don't believe that there
is an International Judaic behind every bush, it's clear
that they have more influence than I gave them credit for.
I appreciate you and your staff for your dedication
to proclaiming the truth about our Fathers' Word as well as the
truth about what's happening around us. Though I don't totally agree
with your assessment of the tribulation periods, I think your full
of truth and wisdom.
With that having been said, I actually do have a
question I've been curious about. As far as the elect of God are
concerned, what qualifies a person to be of such? Can only the seed
of Abraham be elect, or only the people who know the antichrist
comes first, or what? Thanks and God bless.
Answer:
Hello again. You are an honorable man.
Regarding Martin Luther King Jr., he was most useful
to the International Judaics because he was Black and was a way for the Int.
Judaics to steer the Black community where they wanted them to go. In
MLK's defense I will say that he was simply swept up in a movement that was
build around him by people who he could not control; he was overwhelmed and
listened to and trusted his Judaic "advisors" who filtered all that he heard
and knew about the movement that he thought that he was leading.
If it wasn't MLK it would have just
been another charismatic Black man.
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are being used in that same manner today,
otherwise you would have never heard of these men, or they would have been
destroyed, as was MLK when he became unmanageable and had fulfilled his
usefulness, and the power-masters had determined that it was time to
pull-back the reigns of the Civil Rights movement so as to be able to keep a
balance of opposing forces. This is the tragedy of Martin Luther King
that you shall never hear of because it involves two "sacred cows," Martin
Luther King Jr. and the Judaics—neither of which any criticism is allowed
nor tolerated. They are both walk-on-water untouchables.
Incidentally, this was also the reason
for the Cold War—to keep balance between two entirely different ideologies,
both of which they controlled. The whole
Capitalism-verses-Communism diametric is a ruse, a facade. At the
time of the Cold War the International Judaic power base was the Tel
Aviv—Moscow—New York triangle; in other words, the International Judaics
controlled both the Soviets and America in the "Cold War." And through
the Cold War the International Judaics were able to consolidate most of the
world into two factions, either pro-Soviet or pro-Western. Remember,
consolidation is the ultimate goal—a one-world system that is easily saddled
and led.
Right now they are just using opposing
forces to create a one-world body. But just as with the racial
tensions in America (Black/White), and the religious tensions in Europe
(Muslim/Christian), you cannot blend governments and people without
fracturing them first. And although the Judaics and Judaic-founded,
funded, and led Civil Rights organizations outwardly appear to
support Black causes and integration, but the truth of the matter is that
right now the absolute last thing that they want in America is
harmony among the races. Which is why their media tentacle is hyping
White against Black misdeeds and totally ignoring Black against White
misdeeds. Why? It is because they need balance,
one group cannot be powerful than the other, whether it is Black verses
White, the Soviets verses the West, or Christianity verses Islam. So,
in a country like America which is 69% White and only 13% Black they must
tweak the gears to give a larger footprint to the Blacks and a lesser voice
to the more numerous Whites.
"The Jewish people as a whole
will be its own Messiah. It will attain world domination by the
dissolution of other races...and by the establishment of a world
republic in which everywhere the Jews will exercise the
privilege of citizenship. In this New World Order the Children of
Israel...will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition..."
— (the Judaic "father of Communism") Karl Marx in a letter to (the
Judaic) Baruch Levy, quoted in Review de Paris, June 1, 1928, p.
574.
Right now as I write this, the
International Judaic's man Al Sharpton is marching a few thousand Black
Racists in Washington D.C. The ironic thing is that the march is
called "a protest against (White on Black) Hate Crimes," and Blacks
have been led to believe that this is a valid problem. This would be
laughable if it were not so serious; for, although Blacks are only 13% of
America and Whites are 69%, Blacks commit 85% of the violent
interracial crimes (against Whites), and Whites commit 15% (against
Blacks), almost a complete inversion. Thus making Blacks 39
times more likely (that's %3900!) to violently abuse a White than
the other way around.
Hate Crimes |
% of the population of
America |
% of
violent interracial crime commision |
Blacks |
% 13 |
% 85 |
Whites |
% 69 |
%15 |
So, the wrong people are marching on
Washington today. Whites should be demanding protection from predatory
Blacks, but Whites don't march and protest (especially on a work day); nor
do they stand-up for each other, themselves, or their women and children.
Why? It is because Whites have been programmed by the Judaics to
equate White complaining with White Racism, and Blacks have
been trained to see it that way as well. And also, that it is
impossible for a Black to commit a Hate Crime because Hate Crimes are by
definition White against Black, silly. This was all part of the
Judaic's plan that I outlined above. Below is a snapshot view from
The Color of Crime—NCF’s
report on on differences in crime rates by race, bias in the justice system
and interracial crime:
Interracial Crime
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent
interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites,
blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime
against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims
are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When
whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are
black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times
more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa,
and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times
[%225] more likely to commit
officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.
What the Blacks that are marching
today do not understand is that they are doing the International Judaics
bidding; for, they are demanding whole new classes of "Hate Crime"
legislation, and they are demanding strict enforcement. What will
happen when Blacks start getting charged with these Hate Crimes?
"Racism" I'm sure will be their answer. What they cannot see is that
Hate Crime laws suppress everyone; for they are not Hate Crime laws,
but rather they are Hate Thought laws. And once you
create a whole new class of Federal laws, you too are subject to them.
What Blacks really want is a way to get vengeance on Whites, and they have
been led to believe that they can ruin Whites at will and whim with these
arbitrary "Hate Crime" laws. It is another example of offender playing
victim, a system brought to perfection by the Int. Judaics. What's a
Hate Crime? When a White says the "N-word," puts a noose on his
truck's tailgate, says "Nappy-Headed Ho"? Or, when a Black rapes a
White woman, beats and robs a White man? Who will determine these
things, Al Sharpton? David Duke? Are we to simply give in to
this out fear that Blacks will riot and kill us if we do not? That's
what happened in the 1960's. And make no mistake about it, the "No
Justice, No Peace" that mobs of Blacks chant at their protests and
marches is a direct threat of violence, as is their raised clenched fist
"Black Power" salute (adopted from the Communist's clenched fist,
incidentally). Is that how America works now? And if
it is, then the violent and lawless shall always prevail over the meek and
law abiding. This is the exact opposite of the intention of America's
system of governance and law. Not to mention God's Bible.
Right now the target of "Hate Crime"
laws is the Whites, next it will be all Christians, finally everyone else.
We will not be able have or voice a single thought that is not approved by
Congress (i.e., the International Judaics who control both houses of
Congress). As a footnote, unbeknownst to the "Reverend" Al Sharpton is
the deeper meaning of the theme that they are using in their march.
They are symbolically marching around the U.S. Department of Justice
building exactly seven times. This is a type of Israel
marching seven times around Jericho. And at the end of the seven
times, Jericho fell. So the Talmudic/Cabalistic symbology is that they
are being used to destroy the American justice system and form of
government.
Josh 6:4-21
4 And seven priests shall bear before the ark seven trumpets of rams'
horns: and the seventh day ye shall compass the city
[Jericho] seven times,
and the priests shall blow with the trumpets.
5 And it shall come to pass, that when they make a long blast with the
ram's horn, and when ye hear the sound of the trumpet, all the people
shall shout with a great shout; and the wall of the city shall fall down
flat, and the people shall ascend up every man straight before him.
[...]
20 So the people shouted when the priests blew with the trumpets: and it
came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the
people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that
the people went up into the city [Jericho],
every man straight before him, and they took the city.
21 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and
woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the
sword. KJV
The International Judaics ultimate
plan is to set each group upon the other, and then from the ashes of the
struggle shall rise their New World Order, with them securely at the helm.
Unfortunately they shall succeed, that much Revelation 13 confirms, but it
will be conceived in many tears.
"We shall have World
Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether
World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
— Statement made before the United States Senate on Feb.
7, 1950 by (the Judaic) James Paul Warburg, son of Paul Warburg who
wrote the Federal Reserve Act, and nephew of Max Warburg who had
financed Adolph Hitler. The Warburg family is a very powerful
International Judaic functionary, and operates at the behest of the
(Judaic) Rothschild oligarchy.
And every now and then I like to throw
in evidence that the Judaic-controlled media is an accomplice of the
International Judaic's New World Order program:
"We are grateful to the
Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great
publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected
the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been
impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had
been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years.
But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march
towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of
an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the
National auto-determination practiced in past centuries"
— (The Judaic) David Rockefeller, founder and honorary
chairman of the Trilateral Commission; member and honorary
chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations (and director of it
from 1949-85, chairman of the board 1970-85, and vice president
1950-70), in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in
June of 1991. The Rockefellers are a most powerful International
Judaic oligarchy (some believe they are actually an off-shoot, a
splintering, of the Rothschild family).
Anyway, the International Judaics always use a
"Gentile Front" man to
infiltrate groups that they could not themselves infiltrate. They did
this in Russia with the Bolsheviks, they do it everywhere. They are
also the hidden power behind all the puppet governments in Africa (and
Europe, Asia, and North America, etc.). They
take hidden power easily because they have the money and influence to bride popular
strongmen and charismatic upstarts, as well traditional democratic
government systems through said control over a relatively small number of
elected leaders. As you see, it is not only in the Black
communities and nations that they secretly control, but it is in all communities and nations by adjusting
the program to meet the demands of the system being hijacked.
"The world is governed by very
different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind
the scenes." — (Judaic) British Prime Minister
Benjamin Disraeli, 1844.
"Some even believe we
{Rockefeller family} are part of a secret cabal working against the best
interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as
'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to
build a more integrated global political and economic structure—one
world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud
of it." — (The Judaic) David Rockefeller, 2002
Autobiography.
You might be surprised to know that it
is a conservative estimate that over 10% of members and leadership in the
KKK, and in the White Pride, White Separatist, Aryan Pride, Pro-Majority (i.e.,
pro-White) groups are either crypto-Jews (secret Judaics) or informers
working for them. The Judaic, Morris Dees, head of the Southern
Poverty Law Center, and the Judaic, Abraham Foxman, head of the
Anti-Defamation league of B'nai B'rith, two groups that "watchdog"
White groups, have many paid informers and agents planted in these groups.
And it is often these plants and crypto-Jews that do the absurd things that
then are given heavy press, all with the intent to discredit these groups.
There is many a Kosher head under those white hoods you see on TV. It's like spying,
it is spying; for the International Judaics, this is just another
intelligence front in their war upon the world.
The dirty little secret is that no
matter what good came of it for the Blacks, the whole Civil Rights Movement,
Desegregation, and School Integration of the 1955-68
was a Judaic clandestine Communist operation. Which is why the FBI was
investigating Martin Luther King Jr. and top Civil Rights workers at the
time. You will remember that we were in the thick of the Cold War at
the time.
Their intent was to incite the Blacks
to rise up against the Whites so as to be able to get a handle on the
Whites. Which handle the Judaics today firmly have on Whites (and
Blacks as well, and they are currently harnessing the Mexican illegal immigrants as
we speak). They are pitting us against each other to destroy us both,
leaving them to sweep in and pick up the pieces and take the reigns of
power, just like they did after THEIR Civil War. Yep, the American
Civil War (called The War between The States by Southerners) was
instigated and financed on both sides through Jewish banks. "Ending
Slavery" is just the reason that they give us now, but there were many
issues other than slavery that led to the war which cost more American
casualties than any other war till today (620,000 soldiers and an
undetermined amount of southern civilians were killed).
The American Civil War (1861–1865)
also had much to do with financial issues, tariffs, and states rights.
And Abraham Lincoln, the refashioned hero of the war, was not
interested in freeing the slaves, only in limiting the spread of slavery
into states that did not then permit it. "Lincoln
did not propose federal laws against slavery where it already existed"
— "American Civil War" Wikipedia Encyclopedia.
Source.
The war began before there was a
proclamation to free the slaves, a proclamation that may have simply been a
war strategy to disrupt the southern armies by causing rebellion of the
Blacks of the area and dissuading Blacks from joining the southern armies: "...In
September 1862, Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation made
ending slavery in the South a war goal, which complicated the
Confederacy's manpower shortages." — "American
Civil War" Wikipedia Encyclopedia.
Source.
Therefore, the war began on April 12, 1861 with the South's attack on Fort
Sumter; however, the Emancipation Proclamation regarding
freedom to slaves (in the Southern States but not in the Northern and Border
States) wasn't issued till sixteen months later on September 22,
1862. Below we see Abraham Lincoln's true motives for the freedom of
slaves:
"Abraham Lincoln had already
issued his Emancipation Proclamation, which ironically affected only the
states who were not under his control. Lincoln had proclaimed freedom
for all slaves in the territory still held by the Confederacy in
an attempt to end their usefullness in the South. However, the
slaves in areas under Union
[Northern] control remained slaves.
It almost seemed hypocritical. Nevertheless, the Emancipation
Proclamation was a powerful psychological weapon that made the
North now appear to many as the champion of human liberty.
The slaves had been given reason to hope for Northern victory."
— "The Black soldiers who served in the Confederate Army
are the real forgotten men" by Charles Rice, author of America's
Civil War, Nov 1995. Civil War history.
Source
Now, I do not condone slavery; I do
know that it is in the Bible, and that my ancestors (True-Israel) were once
slaves in Egypt (and elsewhere); but it just doesn't seem to me to be a
Christian thing to do. The very idea of slavery is repugnant to a free
man, both Black and White; just as Communism is repugnant to citizens of a
free nation. But for every hard thing God can make some good of it;
for, as I stated earlier in this series of exchanges, American Slavery
Christianized (thus ensuring their eternal life) and educated the Blacks
(thus insuring their future), just as the foreign slaves of Israel were also
included by God under the Covenant (eternal life), if they also circumcised
their male children and kept the Law of God and the Passover (Gen 17:12; Ex
12:47-49; Num 9:10-14, 15:13-16, 15:27-31).
So sometimes there are grey areas when
considering events in history; and without the Judaic's outside instigation
perhaps Blacks and Whites in America would have come to place where
bitterness over slavery would have died down and the sad pages of that
history become almost forgotten, certainly the sting would have been salved.
What is the purpose of this present day constant media and educational
institution's bombardment of the slavery and lynching's of so long ago, by
people who are no longer living, neither victim nor oppressor? I've
never owned a slave and you've never been one, so why are Blacks and Whites
systematically being set against each other over this matter? You know
the answer to that if you've been reading here at WBSG for any amount of
time.
Therefore, my purpose here in this
section is to illustrate that we haven't been told the whole story,
or even a true rendition of it, in our controlled-curriculum schools of
today. History has been warped to fit in with international Judaic's
program of divide and conquer. And these are the same Judaics that brought the slaves here to begin with!
See: free E-book of the popular
reprint documenting Jewish involvement in the slave trade, ship ownership,
etc.,
Who Brought the Slaves to America, and:
VIDEO:
The Judaic Role in the Black Slave Trade
(Black Professor Tony Martin's candid Speech).
These tactics are called "divide and
conquer." To the Talmudic Judaic, all non-Jews are to be slaves
and every Jew a master. So it's funny that they would be
festering animosity over slavery.
In Behind Communism, Frank
Britton states of the Jewish slavers:
We find the first Jews
filtering into Europe some time before the Christian era, particularly
in the region of Greece. The ancient Greeks spoke of these Asiatic
invaders with considerable bitterness. Very quickly they spread
throughout the Roman Empire and into Europe proper. The Jewish
merchant, artisan, and slave trader appear on the Roman scene
with increasing frequency after the second century A.D. and there can be
no doubt that their position in the Roman world was one of growing
importance even as the Empire drifted to destruction. Under Justinian,
says the Jewish Encyclopedia, "They enjoyed full religious
liberty, in return for which they assumed all a citizen's duty toward
the state; minor offices were also open to them. Only the synagogues
were exempt from the duty of quartering soldiers. The trade in
slaves constituted the main source of livelihood for the Roman Jews,
and decrees against this traffic were issued in 335, 336, 339, 384, etc."
{Funk & Wagnall's Jewish Encyclopedia, page 460, vol. 10}
― Behind Communism by Frank L Britton.
Source
The International Judaic's (not all
"Jews") plan is to divide and conquer, to foment internal rebellion within
the targeted nations, pitting the general masses against the ruling parties,
and to cause fracture by revolutions and civil wars, from whence they shall
ascend to power in all the nations. Look at history, you can literally
watch nations being picked-off one at a time. This is a very long plan
commenced centuries ago. Don't just take my word for it, take
the International Judaic's own words on the matter from their 1897
manifesto,
Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion:
PROTOCOL No. 1
[WE SHALL END LIBERTY]
[25.]
Far back in ancient times we [Judaics]
were the first to cry among the masses of the people the words
"Liberty, Equality, Fraternity," words many times repeated since
these days by stupid poll-parrots [those who
simply repeat impossible slogans without analyzing them]
who, from all sides around, flew down upon these baits and with them
carried away the well-being of the world, true freedom of the
individual, formerly so well guarded against the pressure of the mob.
The would-be wise men of the GOYIM [Jewish
pejorative for "human cattle," i.e., non-Jews], the intellectuals, could not make
anything out of the uttered words in their abstractedness; did not see
that in nature there is no equality, cannot be freedom: that Nature
herself has established inequality of minds, of characters, and
capacities, just as immutably as she has established subordination to
her laws: never stopped to think that the mob is a blind thing, that
upstarts elected from among it to bear rule are, in regard to the
political, the same blind men as the mob itself, that the adept,
though he be a fool, can yet rule, whereas the non-adept, even if he
were a genius, understands nothing in the political -- to all those
things the GOYIM paid no regard; yet all the time it was based upon
these things that dynastic rule rested: the father passed on to the son
a knowledge of the course of political affairs in such wise that none
should know it but members of the dynasty and none could betray it to
the governed. As time went on, the meaning of the dynastic
transference of the true position of affairs in the political was lost,
and this aided the success of our cause.
[26.]
In all corners of the earth the words "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity,"
brought to our ranks, thanks to our blind agents, whole legions who bore
our banners with enthusiasm. And all the time these words were
canker-worms at work boring into the well-being of the GOYIM, putting an
end everywhere to peace, quiet, solidarity and destroying all the
foundations of the GOYA States. As you will see later, this
helped us to our triumph: it gave us the possibility, among other
things, of getting into our hands the master card -- the destruction of
the privileges, or in other words of the very existence of the
aristocracy of the GOYIM, that class which was the only defense
peoples and countries had against us. On the ruins of the
eternal and genealogical aristocracy of the GOYIM we have set up the
aristocracy of our educated class headed by the aristocracy of money.
The qualifications for this aristocracy we have established in
wealth, which is dependent upon us, and in knowledge, for which
our learned elders provide the motive force.
[27.]
Our triumph has been rendered easier by the fact that in
our relations with the men, whom we wanted, we have always worked upon
the most sensitive chords of the human mind, upon the cash account, upon
the cupidity, upon the insatiability for material needs of man; and
each one of these human weaknesses, taken alone, is sufficient to
paralyze initiative, for it hands over the will of men to the
disposition of him who has bought their activities.
[28.] The
abstraction of freedom has enabled us to persuade the mob in all
countries that their government is nothing but the steward of
the people who are the owners of the country, and that the steward
may be replaced like a worn-out glove.
[29.]
It is this possibility of replacing the representatives of the people
which has placed at our disposal, and, as it were, given us
the power of appointment....
—
Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, Protocol No. 1, ¶ 25-29.
Delivered by speech in 1897, but published in 1905 (The Protocols
of…Zion were the minutes of the First Zionist Congress held at
Basle, Switzerland, in 1897, under the presidency of the "father of
Modern Zionism," the late Theodore Herzl.) A copy of the Protocols
of…Zion is in the British Museum today bearing the date of its
reception, August 10, 1906. Source:
https://watchman.news/watchman-bs-site-arcv/plez.htm
These tactics are called "divide and
conquer."
And the only Black leader that ever
got it right about Jewish influence, and had the guts to say it, was the
otherwise absurd Nation of Islam leader Louise Farrakhan.
I could go on...and on...and on...the
Women's Movement, the Gay Movement, the staged "Texas Sodomy Case
incident"....
Divide and conquer. And they are
succeeding magnificently.
Allow me to go just a bit further on the
slavery issue then I'll get to your original question.
To show how history has been skewed, most people
today would consider the Democratic Party to be more of a friend to Blacks
than the Republican Party, and Blacks sense this as they overwhelmingly vote
Democratic; however, slavery was supported by the Democrats (who also
supported the KKK), the Republicans were the ones against slavery.
Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. I wonder if that point is stressed
during Black History Month? Also not widely understood is the
fact that Blacks fought on the side of the Confederacy (the South) in the
Civil War. Below is an excellent article by Charles Rice, author of
America's Civil War, clearly bringing this aspect of the Civil War—and
thus slavery—to light:
...Why did black men become
soldiers of the south? It is often forgotten that while slavery was the
major underlying cause of the Civil War, its abolition was not the
original objective of the US government. In his inaugural
address of March 4, 1861, President Abraham Lincoln stated that he had "no
purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of
slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right
to do so, and I have no inclination to do so." The attempts by
overzealous generals such as John C. Fremont and David Hunter to free
the slaves in the areas they occupied were promptly countermanded
by Lincoln. The man in the White House had enough problems
without pushing slave-owning Union [Northerners]
loyalist in the critical border stares into
the arms of secessionists [Southerners].
Many Northern soldiers felt the same way, declaring that they would
stop fighting if the war turned into a crusade for abolition.
Before
crossing the Ohio River in 1861 into what would become West Virginia,
Maj. Gen. George B. McClellan had issued a proclamation to reassure the
inhabitants, "Not only will we abstain from such interference,"
he wrote, "but we will on the contrary with an iron hand crush any
insurrection on their part." Even General Ulysses S. Grant had said
that if he "thought this was was to abolish slavery, I would resign
my commission, and offer my sword to the other side." Faced with
such an attitude from the hostile North, the black Southerners had
little reason not to be loyal to their home section
[the South]. The
slaves had nothing to gain from a Northern victory, and free black
men might actually stand to lose such rights and property as they
already had. The 1860 census counted 240,747 "free Negroes" in the slave
states, 15,000 more than lived in the free states to the north.
Almost half a century earlier, free black Southerners had fought under
Andrew Jackson to help defeat British invaders at the Battle of New
Orleans. Not surprisingly, many also volunteered to defend their homes
against the new threat from the North. No accurate record has been kept
of black units that served the South, since most of them were state
militia and never mustered into the Confederate Army. However,
contemporary newspapers mention black units as being present at
Charleston, Mobile, Nashville, New Orleans, Bowling Green, Ky. ...
...Many of the slaves did on
occasion take up arms and become combatants. An Englishman serving with
the South wrote that one "might as well endeavor to keep ducks from
water as to attempt to hold in the cooks of our company, when firing or
fighting is on hand." Despite ordering his black cook to remain in
the rear during the First Battle of Manassas, the English Confederate
found him on the firing line, rifle in hand, shouting "Go in, Massa!
give it to 'm, boys! Now you've got 'm, and give 'em Hell!" The
soldier wrote, "If the Negro is really so unhappy as
Northernern orators proclaim, why do our servants go into battle
with us? - how comes it that officers cannot keep them from the front?"
One of the fighting cooks was given his freedom as a reward for his
bravery but still continued to follow his former owner. It should be
noted, however, that in almost every instance where a slave served
loyally with his soldier-master, there was longstanding close
relationship between the two. Slave and master had often grown up
together, and the emotional ties between the two were strong.
— "The Black soldiers who served in the Confederate Army
are the real forgotten men" by Charles Rice, author of America's
Civil War, Nov 1995. Civil War history.
Source
And Southerners today get a bad name
because of Northern propaganda, in that because the South lost the war the
North got to write the history. Below is offered for some more
balance, then we will move on:
"After the war, the
contributions of black soldiers to the Southern war effort were almost
completely forgotten. In part, this was the result of the growing
misconception that the Civil War had been fought solely to end slavery.
The political and economic causes were virtually ignored, as was the
question of the legality of secession. The memory of the martyred
Abraham Lincoln left little place for the recognition of black men who
had fought against his armies. However, one former slave who had been
captured with his master spoke for them all. "I had as much right to
fight for my native State as you had to fight for yours," he told a
Union officer, "and a blame sight more right than your furriners*,
what's got no homes." [*Note:
foreigners, referring to the foreign mercenaries the Jewish banking
houses financed for the North]
The Confederate veterans did
not forget. In 1913, 50 years after the bloody Battle of Gettysburg,
thousands of surviving members of the rival armies met once more at the
little Pennsylvania town, this time in friendship. The commission in
charge of housing had provided accommodations for the black Union
veterans. However, they were completely surprised when black
Confederates showed up as well. The unexpected black Southerners were
given straw pallets in the main tent of the compound. White veterans
from Tennessee soon learned of their old comrads' plight. The white
Confederates led the black veterans to their own camp, assigned them one
of their tents, and saw to their every need. In peace, as in war, all
men were equal." — "The Black soldiers who
served in the Confederate Army are the real forgotten men" by Charles
Rice, author of America's Civil War, Nov 1995. Civil War
history.
Source
Moving on...
You had a question:
"As far as the elect of God are concerned, what
qualifies a person to be of such? Can only the seed of Abraham be
elect, or only the people who know the antichrist comes first, or
what?"
Here is where I differ somewhat
from Pastor M. and many other "British Israelism" and non-Racist brands of
"Christian identity." I am quite convinced that many times the term "God's
Elect" in the New Testament refers to any and all true-Christians, regardless of
pedigree. Below are just a couple of Scriptures that would bear me out.
Then after those I will mention a separate group who are true-Israel, that being
"the remnant."
All Christians are the "saints" and "elect"
Col 3:11-13
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor
uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but
Christ is all, and in all.
12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved,
bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a
quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. KJV
Matt 24:29-31
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be
darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall
from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then
shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man
coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they
shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of
heaven to the other. KJV
Rom 8:27-33
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit,
because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of
God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that
love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to
the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he
called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also
glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be
against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all,
how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God
that justifieth. KJV
Now, the confusion on this matter enters
in because certain have taken an attribute (election, being elect, being called)
and turned it into a proper name (THE Elect). We will give
the Strong's definition of "the elect of God," and we will work with the below
Scripture because it is so plainly and clearly inclusive of Christian Gentiles:
Col 3:11-13
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor
uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but
Christ is all, and in all.
12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved,
bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a
quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. KJV
elect:
Greek word #1588 eklektos (ek-lek-tos'); from NT:1586;
select; by implication, favorite: KJV - chosen, elect.
However, the differences we have
with other "British Israelism" (the Anglo-Saxons being the lost tribes of
true-Israel) teachers might only be semantic. Below we see certain people
mentioned that were specially chosen of God, and they are clearly Israelites,
not Gentiles:
Rom 11:1-5
11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I
also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of
Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not
what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against
Israel, saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine
altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself
seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according
to the election of grace. KJV
So here is a group that is specifically and only of Israel
that were the election of God. But that is not what it says! Read it
again: it says that they were the REMNANT according to the election of
grace. And here is the difference. The term "remnant" here goes back
to the subject of Israel in Elijah's day (Elias in the Greek) spoken of in verse
2. So, those of Israel who God reserves (for duties in extreme times) are
the remnant. You can only be a remnant if you were part
of the original group, for remnant itself means "that/those left
over."
Bear in mind also that the term "election of grace" is the same
thing as the "election of God" (by grace).
So here is the problem, and the answer to your question:
Are "the elect" all Christians regardless of race, or are they only blood-descendants of Israel/Jacob who are Christians?
The answer to that can only be understood with an eye
towards what Jesus Christ accomplished. For, in the Old Testament the
answer would be easy, the election of God was Israel by blood. However,
something changed when Christ came and was offered. Now, today, through
Christ all peoples are adopted-in and share the same place as true-Israel as
regarding salvation, that is to say election. In the New Testament
"election" is synonymous with salvation, It's the same thing. You cannot
be elect and yet be unsaved, and the unsaved are never called the elect of God.
We will document this by continuing the above Romans Scripture down several more
verses. Then we have one more comment relative to this matter.
The Gentiles who believe upon Jesus Christ are grafted
into the same tree as the Israelites who believe upon Jesus
Christ:
Rom 11:6-36
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more
grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no
more work.
7 What then? [most of]
Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for;
but the [remnant according to]
election hath obtained it, and the rest
[most of Israel] were blinded
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber,
eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto
this day.
9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a
stumbling block, and a recompence unto them:
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their
back alway.
11 I say then, Have they [Israel]
stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their
fall salvation is come unto the
Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
12 Now if the fall of them [Israel]
be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them
[Israel] the riches of the Gentiles; how much
more their [Israel's]
fulness?
13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle
of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them
[Israel] which are my flesh, and might save
some of them [Israel].
15 For if the casting away of them [Israel]
be the reconciling of the world [Gentiles],
what shall the receiving of them [Israel]
be, but life from the dead?
16 For if the firstfruit [Israel]
be holy, the lump [gentiles]
is also holy: and if the root [Jesus Christ]
be holy, so are the branches [Israel & Gentiles
together in faith in Jesus Christ].
17 And if some [Israel]
of the branches [saved]
be broken off, and thou [Gentiles],
being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them
[Israel], and with them partakest
of the root [Jesus Christ]
and fatness of the olive tree [eternal salvation in
Heaven with God];
18 Boast not against the branches [that fell off -
Israel]. But if thou
[dare to] boast, [then
you should bear in mind that] thou bearest not
the root [Jesus Christ],
but the root [Christ] [bears]
thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches [Israel]
were broken off, that I [Gentiles]
might be graffed in.
20 [you said] Well;
because of unbelief they [Israel]
were broken off, and thou [Gentiles]
standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if
God spared not the natural branches [Israel],
take
heed lest he also spare not thee [Gentiles].
[In other words, God doesn't play.
And He is fair. But He will surely punish those that deserve it,
Gentiles or Israelites alike.]
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell
[away], [God gave]
severity; but toward thee [Gentiles who were
grafted-in by faith in Christ Jesus],
[God gave] goodness,
if
[that's a condition!] thou continue in his
goodness [through faith]:
otherwise thou also
shalt be cut off.
23 And they [Israel]
also, if they abide not still in unbelief [i.e.,
if they don't doubt], shall be graffed
[back] in: for God is able to graff them in
again.
24 For if thou [Gentiles]
wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed
contrary to nature into a good olive tree [into Jesus
Christ]: how much more shall these
[Israel], which be the natural branches, be
graffed into their own olive tree? [if
they repent and believe upon Jesus Christ]
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part
is happened to Israel,
until
the fulness of the Gentiles be come in [that
blindness is past, the Gentiles have come in, mainly through Paul
here's ministry].
26 And so all Israel [both natural born
and the grafted in who believe upon Jesus]
shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion
the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant [the New Covenant (New
Testament)] unto them, when I shall take away
their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they [apostate Israel who
fell away] are enemies for your sakes: but as
touching the election [of grace, the remnant],
they are beloved for the fathers' sakes [God 'remained
them over' (made them be the remnant) in fulfillment of His promise to the
fathers (patriarchs)].
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance
[God does not go back on His word].
30 For as ye [Gentiles]
in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through
their [Israel's]
unbelief:
31 Even so have these [Israel]
also now not believed, that through your mercy
[the mercy God gave to you] they also may
obtain mercy [of God].
32 For God hath concluded them all [Israel and
Gentiles] in unbelief, that he might have mercy
upon all [Israel and Gentiles].
33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how
unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
[try as hard as we will, we can never fully understand why God does
what He does. (But we trust that He is fair and merciful)]
34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him
again?
36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory
for ever. Amen. KJV
So we see that both Gentiles and Israel
have received election of God, they just got it at different times and in
different ways, but all election is through belief upon Jesus Christ, both
for the Gentiles and for by-blood Israel.
However, that is not to say that there is
not to be a true-Israel remnant in the endtimes. Far from it, our
Scripture above lets us know that there is always a remnant of Israel who God
preserves faithful. And in Revelation chapter seven we see mention of the
literal descendants of the Twelve tribes that are sealed during the Tribulation
(the 144,000). These are literal by-blood Israelites (not today's
so-called "Jews"). The Two
Witnesses are two prophets born of woman who shall be working during the
Tribulation. And there are the "seven thunders" of Revelation chapter ten
that shall be prophesying for God during the Tribulation. These must
necessarily be by-blood Israelites, for all of God's prophets are Israelites.
The Bible is the story of Israel and of God's dealings with them, which
eventually brought all humans into community with God.
So, in the Tribulation, good Christians in
all nations of men shall stand and many shall be martyred; and God's Israeli
prophets shall prophesy, His Israeli remnant shall work works, and most of the
world shall worship the beast. But the election of God, His
TRUE-Christians of all stripes, both Gentile and Israel, both men and women,
shall do marvelously.
Col 3:11-13
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor
uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but
Christ is all, and in all.
12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved,
bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a
quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. KJV
Rev 13:7-8
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome
them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not
written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the
foundation of the world. KJV
So, how do you know if you are in that "written
in the book of life"? And it is important, because if you aren't in
it then you aren't going to Heaven:
Rev 20:15
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the
lake of fire. KJV
You are in it if you are a
Christian, for, that is why you are a Christian today, your name was
in the book and God elected you according to His grace. The answer to the
book of life is found in it's full title: "the book
of life of the Lamb [Jesus Christ]
slain from the foundation of the world" (Rev 13:8b)
Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
PS: I
agree with you that we can leave this subject here and move on. Thank
you for the thought provoking questions and comments. But, I hasten to
add, feel free to comment if you desire.
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Backdoor to censorship: Internet filters and E-mail SPAM
filters used to control and suppress content
A reader writes:
I just thought that I would let you know that I can no longer
view your website from my work computer because our new Websense
program
filters it under the category of "hate and racism". I haven't
tried, but I would bet that one can still access John Hagee's
site if he has one.
I wonder if "you know who" was involved in the design of this
software.
Answer:
Try and click on Hagee's site tomorrow and let me
know if it got through, okay?
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The reader writes back:
Well, I was
correct in my suspicion, Hagee's site is readily accessible! I
knew this would happen sooner or later, but that doesn't lessen
the disgust I feel over the matter. One can really feel alone
sometimes, when it seems that no one else you come in physical
contact with can see the big picture and how God is being
systematically driven from our nation and those who do don't
have a clue that it is an element in the group of who they
perceive to be "God's chosen people" who are ultimately
responsible for this depravity.
What I really
find amazing is the level of blatant indifference to anything
concerning Christianity or the attack upon it. Most of the folks
I work with think that anything related to God's word has no
place in the work place. Many of them have told me that they
don't believe in God or the Bible and some who claim to, have
even voice their opinion that they don't believe salvation is
necessary for eternal life. I really don't quite understand
that. It seems that the price of gas is an issue that far out
weighs the moral and spiritual vacuum into which we are being
drawn. I could go on and on, but I suspect that you can probably
identify quite well with what I am trying to point out. Please
don't get the idea that I am a "poor me baby", because that I am
not. I am ready to stand and fight!
It's just
frustrating to see the masses deceived and it seems sometimes
almost willingly! As a side note, I have been able to determine
with fair certainty that the owner (top of the food chain) in
our corporation is Jewish as I had long suspected. May God bless
all your labors in
his service!!
[Xxxxx Xxxxxxx]
Answer:
Hi. So, our little Watchmen Bible Study Group
is banned for "Hate and
Racism," and (antichristian) Christian-Zionist
pro-Israel-over-America John Hagee's Website is allowed? Why not,
Christian-Zionists and the so-called Judeo-Christians are no threat to the
New World Order, Zionism, antichristianity, or satan and his worker bees.
In fact, traitors like the immensely popular pastor John Hagee are actually
aiding and abetting the International Judaics. Did you see Hagee's
latest blasphemy:
In the below video for his new book,
In Defense of
Israel, Christian-Zionist Pastor John Hagee states:
[Caution,
blasphemous (and damnable) false teaching!]
Partial transcript (video follows
below):
“I'm
delighted to present my latest book, In Defense
of Israel. This book will expose the sins
of the fathers, and the vicious abuse of the Jewish
people.
In Defense of Israel will shake Christian theology. It
scripturally proves that The Jewish people, as a whole did not
reject Jesus as Messiah.
It will also prove that
Jesus did not come to Earth to be the Messiah.
I will prove that there was a Calvary conspiracy between Rome, the
high priest, and Herod, to execute Jesus as an insurrectionist too
dangerous to live.
Since Jesus refused by word and deed to claim to be
Messiah,
how can the Jews be blamed for rejecting what was never offered?
Read it in this shocking exposé In Defense of Israel." ...”
— Pastor (Evangelical) John Hagee, in
a video advertisement for his latest book, In
Defense of Israel. Oct, 2007.
Below is the 1:37
Min. video:
[Caution,
blasphemous (and damnable) false teaching!]
John Hagee “In Defense of ‘Israel’”

We offer
a Scriptural
rebuttal to pastor Hagee's false statements and false
teachings
HERE.
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The antichristian lies on the Internet about pastor Arnold
Murray
A reader writes:
I started listening to a program on TV called
"Shepherd's Chapel" about 2 years ago after my brother told me
about it. I just recently decided to check out what other people
said about him on the Internet. One person gave your website and
said it was similar to what Arnold Murray taught. Another
person said he was against Israel.
Could you tell me your beliefs on the Jewish
people? I was raised to believe that they are God's chosen
people. Are you anti-Israel and if so, why?? I enjoyed reading
about the 3 world ages which is similar to Arnold Murray.
Answer:
Hello [Xxxxxxx]. Pastor Arnold Murray is the best
out there, and don't be misled by all the lies about him on the
Internet. They each just copied one another's lies in an attempt to
destroy pastor Murray because he rocked their Rapture boat and because
he teaches who true Israel are. Pastor Murray himself addressed those
lies about him:
Answer to Critics. And it is a
sinful shame that so many Christians are spreading these lies. They
will answer for that.
"Could you tell me your beliefs on the Jewish
people? I was raised to believe that they are God's chosen people.
Are you anti-Israel and if so, why??"
Well, to answer your above questions we would
have to lay a heck of a lot of groundwork. But if you start reading at
our
New material on site
you will get a good foundation about just who
TRUE-Israel is.
But I will answer your above questions just the
same:
"Could you tell me your beliefs on the Jewish
people?"
Here's the foundation of the problem. The people
that you have been told are the "Israel people of the Bible," are not.
But if you are asking my opinion on the people that are living over
there in the modern day nation state of Israel and the absolute
majority of the rest of the circa 13 million people on this planet who
call themselves "Jews," my answer would be:
They are a Gentile peoples who are in need of
being saved by Jesus Christ.
"I was raised to believe that they are God's
chosen people."
You have been grossly misinformed. And I
know that your churches have fed into that misconception.
"Are you anti-Israel and if so, why??"
Do you mean the nation state of Israel in
Palestine today? If so, my answer would be that that state is
not Biblical and does not fulfill one single prophecy of
Biblical Israel. It is a lie; which as you see, most of the
Christian world has bought. We do see what shall become of that
place (and those people) in the book of Revelation—satan shall
sit there claming to be God. And God's Two Witnesses will be
murdered there by satan (antichrist).
That place was polluted when the Jews
killed God there (as Jesus), the place is polluted now, and it
shall remain polluted until the Second Advent of Jesus Christ
when God purges the place with fire.
And I will answer one that you did not
ask: "Am I AntiSemitic?"
No, I am not. But some might think
that I am until they learn the truth about this situation,
as you shall learn if you read the latest several additions
to the Website at the link that I gave you. Specifically
see:
Expose on Hagee. You see, to tell the truth about those
people who are "the synagogue of
Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie"
(Rev 3:9b), is considered AntiSemitic
today. Never mind the truth of the matter.
Prepare for an eye-opener. But once
you learn that truth you shall never be the same.
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The "wedding garment." Israel, Gentiles, and the
perfect plan of God.
A reader writes:
Good morning Sr. I was reading this morning Matthew
22, and I am
confused. Who is the "friend" to which God talks and sees him
'without a
wedding garment'? how did this individual get in?.. thank you. May
God
bless you and your ministry
Answer:
Hello. The man without the wedding garment did
not get in, he was "cast him into outer
darkness" (Mt 22:13).
Matt 22:1-14
1 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and
said,
2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a
marriage for his son,
[Kingdom of Heaven
= going to Heaven, spending the eternity with God. In other
words, making it through Judgment Day and receiving the rewards
of the faithful. The certain King
is God, the Son is Jesus
Christ, the marriage is
Christ's bride (now known as Christians)]
3 And sent forth his servants
to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not
come.
[his servants
were Israel, who rejected Christ at His First Advent. This was
Christ's first offer of the Kingdom: "But
he [Jesus] answered and
said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of
Israel." (Matt 15:24)]
4 Again, he sent forth other
servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have
prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all
things are ready: come unto the marriage.
5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm,
another to his merchandise:
6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully,
and slew them.
[This was the offering of the Gospel to Israel
once again after the Crucifixion. Remember, at the first the
apostles and apostle Paul only went to scattered Israel. "James,
a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the
twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting."
(James 1:1), etc. Later in the 2nd third of the book
of Acts apostle Paul first, then the other disciples, would go
to the Gentiles also. But not yet. The apostles were
persecuted and murdered later on by the Jews and by the Roman's
on the Jew's behalf.]
7 But when the king heard
thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed
those murderers, and burned up their city.
[The destruction of
Jerusalem, A.D. 69, and the purging of the "Jews" from Judea
and Jerusalem.]
8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is
ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
[Israel (Israel & Judah)
were not worthy because they rejected the King (Jesus Christ)
and thus rejected the Kingdom of God which came through His
Messiah Jesus Christ. They crucified their Christ, yelling with
one accord "Crucify Him, Crucify Him."]
9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as
ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
[The Gentiles are offered
the Kingdom. "And they of the
circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came
with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was
poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost" (Acts 10:45)]
10 So those servants went out into the highways, and
gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and
the wedding was furnished with guests.
11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man
which had not on a wedding garment:
[Here is an unbeliever
that supposed that because he was "a Jew" that he would enter
Heaven. But the only way into the Kingdom is through Jesus
Christ. So this unbelieving man was cast to
hell]
12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in
hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
[The "wedding
garment" is the dress of the bride of
Christ, it is your faith in Jesus Christ which promises your
inclusion in the eternal Kingdom. This is a called a wedding,
for only by Christ Jesus may we be one and enter in.]
13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand
and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there
shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
14 For many are called, but few are chosen. KJV
What does verse 14 above mean? It is something that
"the Jews" never understood, and don't understand to this day. It is
namely this:
Many were called (Israel) "I
am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
(Matt 15:24), but through unbelief they were
rejected.
And many who were not called (Gentiles) did in fact
enter in because of belief upon Jesus Christ—they
were adopted into Israel and are children in good standing, possessing
through Christ all the rights of the natural born son.
This parable can better be understood through the
below parable. For, in the below we see how the Kingdom was offered,
removed, and re-offered to two groups of people separately, (1.) Israel
and (2.) the Gentiles (Gentiles are basically everyone that isn't of
Israel; if I may simplify that I would say 6th Day Creation and 8th Day
Creation, but even that statement is oversimplified and wanting.)]
Rom 11:1-36
11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also
am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not
what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God
against Israel, saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars;
and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to
myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image
of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a
remnant according to the election of grace
[there is a faithful remnant of Israel at all times, no matter how
small their numbers sometimes fall to].
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is
no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace:
otherwise work is no more work.
7 What then? [the
majority of (apostate)] Israel hath not obtained that
which he seeketh for; but the election [God's
small (faithful) remnant of Israel] hath obtained it, and the
rest were blinded
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of
slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should
not hear;) unto this day.
9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and
a stumbling block, and a recompence unto them:
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down
their back always.
11 I say then, Have they [Israel]
stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but
rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles,
for to provoke them to jealousy [In
other words, God is explaining WHY Israel rejected Him
and Jesus Christ].
12 Now if the fall of them [Israel]
be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them
[Israel] the riches
[blessings] of the Gentiles; how much more [of
a blessing shall be Israel's blessings when they come in]
their fulness?
13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I [God's
faithful and chosen apostle, Apostle Paul] am the
apostle of [to, for]
the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my
flesh [Israelites], and might
save some of them [Israel].
15 For if the casting away of them
[Israel] be the reconciling of the world
[Gentiles], what shall the receiving of them
[Israel] be, but life from the dead?
16 For if the firstfruit [Israel]
be holy, the lump [Gentiles]
is also holy: and if the root [Jesus
Christ] be holy, so are the branches
[Israel].
17 And if some of the branches
[Israel] be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree
[Gentiles], wert graffed in among them, and with them
partakest of the root [Jesus Christ]
and fatness of the olive tree
[eternal life with God in Heaven];
18 Boast not against the branches
[Gentiles, don't brag about yourself over those of Israel who fell
through denial]. But if thou boast, thou
[Gentiles] bearest not the root
[Jesus], but the root thee
[in other words, you were saved by GRACE through Jesus Christ, and
not on your own].
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches
[Israel] were broken off, that I
[Gentiles] might be graffed in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they
[Israel] were broken off, and thou
[Gentiles] standest by faith
[only by Jesus are you here saved, not because of any ability in
yourselves]. Be not highminded
[don't brag], but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches
[God condemned unbelievers in Israel], take heed lest he also
spare not thee [since God wasn't
slack to reject apostate Israel, be careful that you don't cause Him
to likewise reject you to hell].
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which
fell [apostate Israel],
severity ; but toward thee
[believing Gentiles], goodness,
if
thou continue in his goodness [IF
you remain in faith of Jesus Christ]:
otherwise
thou also shalt be cut off [God cast
off many of His chosen people Israel when they betrayed Him, and
don't think that He won't cast off the Gentiles who made Heaven by
the grace of God by his opening their eyes to faith in Jesus Christ].
23 And they [those apostate ones of
Israel] also, if they abide not still in unbelief
[if they change and believe upon Jesus Christ], shall be
graffed [God will allow them to come
into eternal life] in: for God is able to graff them in
again.
24 For if thou [Gentiles] wert
cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature
[pagans, heathen unbelievers by nature], and wert graffed
contrary to nature into a good olive tree
[Jesus Christ, Christianity]: how much more shall these
[Israel], which be the natural branches, be graffed into
their own olive tree [if they repent
and believe]?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this
mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that
blindness in part is happened to Israel,
until the fulness of
the Gentiles be come in
[that time is past. Christ was offered, the Gentiles have been
brought in. Those who say that today's so-called antichristian
"Jews" are blinded by God Himself are wrong, and are not
rightly dividing the Word according to TIME].
26 And so all Israel shall be saved
[but understand that today "Israel" are all who believe upon Christ
Jesus, and those natural born Israelites who reject Christ are cast
out (cut out) of Israel]: as it is written, There shall come
out of Sion the Deliverer [Jesus
Christ], and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob
[Israel]:
27 For this is my covenant unto them
[Israel], when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they
[Israel] are enemies
[rejecters of Scripture] for your sakes: but as touching the
election [God's small faithful
remnant from verse 5 above], they
are beloved for the fathers' sakes
[God's fulfilled promises to the Patriarchs (the ancient fathers of
God's people)].
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance [God's
promises endure, so Jesus Christ was sent as promised that by God
through His Messiah, Israel should be saved].
30 For as ye [Gentiles] in
times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy
through their [Israel's]
unbelief:
31 Even so have these [Israel]
also now not believed, that through your mercy
[the grace upon you] they
[cut-off Israel] also may obtain mercy
[Grace unto salvation].
32 For God hath concluded them all
[Gentiles and Israel] in unbelief, that he might have mercy
upon all [Gentiles and Israel].
[*God knows that we have trouble understanding all this, especially
this verse 32; so He goes on to say:]
33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of
God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding
out! [We are incapable of fully
understand God or His ways]
34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his
counsellor? [none of us!]
35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto
him again? [none of us!]
36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom
be glory for ever. Amen. KJV
In other words, God first saw to His Israel, then to
His Gentiles. And He didn't spare the Gentiles for Israel, and He
didn't spare Israel for the Gentiles. In other words, He loves them
all. But He will also punish any of them who disobey His command
towards faith in Jesus Christ.
But anyway, the "wedding garment" that you asked of
earlier is the token of salvation that every Christian has. Every
Christian, whether they be male, female, Gentile, or Israel, are the
bride of Christ. And the wedding is in Heaven. The wedding gift is
eternal Heaven. And God is the Giver of that gift and the giver of all
life.
Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
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Secret Societies and the Second Overthrow
A reader writes:
Hey Nick,
I'm a big visitor of your site. Really enjoy all the insightful
current events/culture watch things you put up and how it relates to
how Christ said things would be in these end days.
Clearly we're in that final generation of the fig
tree. I really feel the next 7-11 years are going to be extremely
interesting for all of us waiting for that blessed hope of His
Return in Glory (AFTER Satan has been here as Antichrist) of course.
I have a question in relation to the Illuminati versus the "Learned
Elders of Zion". Clearly the head leaders of the Zionists are of
Cain and their father Satan. Their writings in the Protocols make
that quite evident as far as I'm concerned. My question is:
In your opinion is the Illuminati mainly for our people (true Saxon
Israel) to be secretly initiated into with promises of wealth,
prestige and power and secretly run by the snakes? In other words,
do you think our people (like Bush and other "gentile-goy" leaders
know what's going on in the power structure)? Do you think our
leaders that clearly are involved in some secret societies know
what's going on behind the scenes but have so much personal wealth,
power and comfort they just don't really care what happens to the
rest of us on the bottom of the totem pole?
Are the Zionists a "Secret society within a secret society" or do
you think the "goy elite in there" know who these "Learned ones" are
and know them as being "Learned ones"?
Just curious. I value your thoughts on this.
Take care.
Sincerely,
[Xxxxxx] from Minnesota
Answer:
Hello [Xxxxx]. Thank you for the kind words of
encouragement. You asked:
"I have a question in relation to the Illuminati
versus the 'Learned Elders of Zion'."
Let me explain the relationship in
this way: The Learned Elders represent world Jewry, or rather
they have appointed themselves to represent world Jewry.
However, the average "Jewish" person has absolutely no idea just whom the
men are that have self-appointed themselves as the leaders of Jewry (Jewry
is defined as: Jews worldwide as a community, making no difference regarding
race or religion—anyone who considers themselves to be a Jew is a Jew, and
is thus this body that is called Jewry).
And I think that an understanding of
this subject would allay a lot of fears regarding "AntiSemitism." You see,
the Judaics (a title that I use as a more respectful sounding title than
"Jews") have been told many things about themselves by their rabbis and leaders
that are simply not true, and naturally they believed them. They have
been told that they are the "chosen people of God" and that by simple
inclusion in that group they shall be fine after this world into the next—even if they don't believe in God the average Judaic has no worry about hell
or eternal damnation. (In
America 45% of Judaics admit to not believing in God, and in the State
of Israel that number
is 62%. They call themselves "Secular Jews," you may have heard of
that term. It means an Atheist Jewish person. So even though
they do not believe in God they still carry the title "Jew" as in Secular
Jews for the ca is is what is c They have been lulled into the "chosen people"
myth. So naturally they are not all to pleased when a Christian
informs them of the fact that without belief upon Jesus Christ every man is
damned. "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the
truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
(John 14:6). And they take this to be AntiSemitism.
In other words, simply telling the
truth about Judaics, Jewry, Zionism, and the State of Israel is AntiSemitic.
So they suppose. It is so very easy to be an "AntiSemite" today, or rather
to be considered an AntiSemite. If you believe that Jewish people also
have to believe upon Jesus Christ to spend the eternity in Heaven—then you
are an AntiSemite. If you criticize any Jewish person or any Israeli
policy, no matter how
accurate and warranted that criticism is—then you are an AntiSemite.
If you rightly point out that people who call themselves Jews are at the top
of all significant institutions and movements of power—then you are an
AntiSemite. If you believe that the Christian and Muslim Palestinians
are human beings with the right to exist and that it was wrong to rape,
terrorize, and murder them out of their homes and towns to make room for the
new Jewish Nation—then you are an AntiSemite.
Etc. etc., etc. I won't bore you with the long list.
Back to the Secret Societies
Based on the above, it is therefore
naturally "AntiSemitic" to point out the Judaic founding and leadership of ALL
modern and not so modern
secret societies. You mentioned the Illuminati; well, the Judaic, Adam
Weishaupt, founded the Illuminati. You mention Freemasonry, well,
Judaics structured the organization as we know it today by infiltrated the
masons (builders) and putting their movement under the Freemasonry title.
In other words, they hijacked it, like they have hijacked the Identity of
true-Israel. But that original organization antedates the stone
builders (masons). Freemason's historians trace actual Freemasonry as
we know it today back to King Solomon, King David's son. You will
recall that Solomon sinned greatly in that he brought idols into the very
Temple of God, thus beginning the profaning of the symbols in the Temple.
2 Kings 23:13
13 And the high places that were before Jerusalem, which were on the
right hand of the mount of corruption, which Solomon the king of Israel
had builded for Ashtoreth the abomination of the Zidonians, and for
Chemosh the abomination of the Moabites, and for Milcom the abomination
of the children of Ammon, did the king defile. KJV
1 Kings 11:4-10
4 For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away
his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the Lord
his God, as was the heart of David his father.
5 For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and
after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites.
6 And Solomon did evil in the sight of the Lord, and went not fully
after the Lord, as did David his father.
7 Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of
Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the
abomination of the children of Ammon.
8 And likewise did he for all his strange wives, which burnt incense and
sacrificed unto their gods.
9 And the Lord was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from
the Lord God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice,
10 And had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go
after other gods: but he kept not that which the Lord commanded.
KJV
The
symbology and concept at the top of Freemasonry (and all other secret societies) is Jewish
Cabalism (Kabbalah), they
even use the Hebrew alphabet on some of their symbols like in the picture at
right where you have Hebrew characters at the five points of the Satanic
upside-down star. The symbol at right is from high level witchcraft
which incorporates the Mason's Compass and Square. (Incidentally, you
might notice the figure in the center of the upper icon and the figure in
the center of the lower icon, it is the same form that the U.S. Pentagon
building is in.)
Buy here is the secret and the
problem. This philosophy that permeates all secret societies goes way
back, the trail of this serpent is traced back through Europe, Babylon,
Assyria, Egypt, Sumer (the Sumerians, the inventors of writing, agriculture,
etc.), all the way back to the Garden of Eden.
It originated with satan's son Cain, who passed it down through his
children. At some point it became a Jewish movement, most likely
during the Babylonian captivity (circa 5th century B.C.). From then on
it hid within Jewry. I say hid.
The whole thing, under it's multitude
of names and facades has always infiltrated groups and lay hidden at the
top in inner circles and groups within groups, protected from discovery by secrecy rites, initiations,
and death oaths. Now, I
am admittedly not doing justice to this subject here for brevity, but I'm
writing a book that is going into great depth on the matter.
At the top initiation levels, which
few ever attain to (or even know exist) the Mason, Illuminati, etc.,
learn that the main text for the "religion" (and it is a profane religion)
is the Jewish Kabbalah. But by then they are so spiritually
numbed that they don't even blink when they learn that they are worshipping
Lucifer, not God.
So, to say that there is a conflict
between the Illuminati and the Learned Elders of Zion is a bogey. For
the learned Elders are Illuminated (Illuminati), but not all Illuminati are
Jewish Learned Elders. Illuminati is named
after Lucifer as the "bearer of light, or light bearer" but this light is pure evil, it is
evil wisdom gained by communion with satan and his evil spirits in rites and
incantations that the average Freemason does not even know exists. So,
your old uncle Humphrey who was a Freemason most likely has no idea that the
organization that he has been making oaths to is satanic at its very upper
core. This "light," this "Illumination" is why Christ would make the
curious statement:
Luke 11:35
35 Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness.
KJV
We saw the first rays of this "light"
in the Garden of Eden, when Eve then Adam were illuminated by satan (the
serpent):
Gen 3:1-7
3 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the
Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye
shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the
trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God
hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye
die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes
shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and
evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it
was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one
wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and
gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they
knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together,
and made themselves aprons. KJV
Satan's above lies are the basis of
all New Age religions today, which themselves copied it from the Jewish
Gnostics of the first and second century A.D., transmitted through the
Nag Hammadi Gnostic texts (discovered and unearthed in upper Egypt in 1945).
That is, that man can become godlike or even God—pure blasphemy! This
type of blasphemy is also a core doctrine in the Mormon churches, but is not
taught to outsiders and nominal converts. Mormons believe that the God
who created this universe was once a man on another universe, and that they
(perfected Mormons) shall one day become the God of their own universe.
Like I said, the trail of the serpent has slithered all throughout the
world, poisoning everything it touched. All these teachings are wrong
and they only lead to death, as in Adam and Eve's case.
But that was why God was so
angry at them—they weren't eating the wrong apple—that is just a lie
spread to the early churches to obscure the mysteries, who then believed it
in ignorance and a misplaced sense of modesty. Adam and Eve had gone over to
satan, and rejected God for satan. They believed satan over God and
sought to be equal with God, not worship Him. "Ye
shall not surely die. For God doth know that in the day ye eat
thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods"
(Gen 3:4b-5a). Satan
illuminated (enlightened) them with forbidden (and evil and inaccurate)
knowledge.
Perhaps one of the better explanations
that I have seen which explains what "Illumination" means would be the below
from Adolph Hitler's spiritual mentor. I have copied the below quote
from a place further down in this study, so you will see it again.
Upon proofreading I felt that it would also be helpful here to try to
explain what I mean by illuminated, as I have read no other writer
speak of the Garden of Eden incident as such.
Dietrich Eckart,
[Hitler's]
spiritual mentor and father figure ...died in 1923 of Heart
Attack induced by a Morphine addiction, On his deathbed Eckart Said:
"Follow
Hitler ! He will dance, but it is I who have called the tune
!" "I have initiated him into the 'Secret Doctrine', opened
his centers in vision and given him the means to communicate with
the Powers." "Do not mourn for me: I shall have influenced
history more than any other German." —
Source;
and also in Jim Marrs' book, Rule By Secrecy, pg. 160.
That much more happened in the Garden
of Eden than simple disobedience (and certainly more than apple munching) is
the fact that God Himself observed that Adam and Eve had attained some form
of knowledge from satan (the serpent) that gave them a certain wisdom only
possessed by supernatural entities. But this was not good wisdom, it
was bad wisdom, "knowing...evil", as one could
expect since it came from satan; and possessing it they were made unfit for
eternal life.
Gen 3:21-24
21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins,
and clothed them.
22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us,
to know good and evil:
and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life,
and eat, and live for ever:
23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to
till the ground from whence he was taken.
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden
of Eden Cherubims [a class of angels],
and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree
of life. KJV
God's plan would later allow them
forgiveness through the distant from then Jesus Christ:
1 Tim 2:15
15 Notwithstanding she [Eve]
shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity
and holiness with sobriety. KJV
There is knowledge that is forbidden
for man to possess, Paul casually mentions the existence of such knowledge
when he speaks of himself in the third party regarding his visit to Heaven
(probably after his stoning):
2 Cor 12:1-4
12 It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions
and revelations of the Lord.
2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body,
I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)
such an one caught up to the third heaven.
3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I
cannot tell: God knoweth;)
4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable
words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. KJV
But any knowledge or "wisdom" from
satan is evil and will lead men to Hell (Lake of Fire).
Therefore, any illumination or secret doctrines learned in the mystery
cults, Illuminati, Freemasonry, Witchcraft, Satanism, secret societies,
etc., will lead to the ruin of the soul, for it is all evil and mostly
lie, and all forbidden by God. If any reader is a Christian who is in
Freemasonry, get out now and repent, and pray that God cleanses the evil
spirits out of you, for they are surely there. An excellent book for
such a person would be:
Masonry : Beyond the Light: by
William Schnoebelen: Amazon.com Reviewer R. W. Dundas,
June 7, 2000 says: "Freemasonry is a Luciferian Religion! Mr.
Schnoebelen's book absolutely blows the lid off of the religion of
Freemasonry! The author provides a detailed, in depth look into this
insidious cult of Satan and he does so in a very logical, easy to follow
manner. Masons who claim to be Christian will, of course, flatly deny
that Freemasonry is a religion and will furthermore dismiss Mr.
Schnoebelen and others as "phonies." This book will provide more than
adequate ammunition to refute any Mason who would insist that the Lodge
is Christian. Give him the names of a couple of his illustrious Lodge
brothers: Aleister Crowley; infamous Satanist, Anton LeVay, author of
the satanic bible! Ask him about General Albert Pike, the Grand
Commander, Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry who said that the
"Masonic Religion should be ....maintained in the purity of the
Luciferian doctrine.....Lucifer is God!" Ask him about Baphomet, Mah-hah-bone,
Jabulon or Abaddon! Why does the Shrine (A.A.O.N.M.S) require that
it's initiates swear an oath to Allah with his hand on the Qu'ran. I
also recommend "Freemasonry" by former worshipful master, Jack Harris.
(Starting on page 117 read about the deathbed confession of Henry L.
Valance of the murder of Capt. William Morgan!) The bottom line is that
the deception, lies and secrets of the religion of Freemasonry have been
exposed. The evidence is irrefutable and damning. The prosecution
rests, Your Honor!" (Price approx. $10.00)
Back to Lucifer, the bearer of evil "light"
Satan is called "Lucifer" in Isaiah
chapter fourteen, a name that is associated with "light", but this light of
satan is dark light, evil light. "Take heed
therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness." (Christ
speaking in Luke 11:35).
Isa 14:12
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of
the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground,
which didst weaken the nations! KJV
Lucifer:
Hebrew word #1966 heylel (hay-lale'); from OT:1984 (in
the sense of brightness); the morning-star: KJV
- lucifer (the king of Babylon). [WBSG note: disregard Strong's
inaccurate comment "the king of Babylon"]
morning:
Hebrew word #7837 shachar (shakh'-ar); from OT:7836;
dawn (literal, figurative or adverbial): KJV - day
(-spring), early, light, morning, whence riseth.
Satan himself is said to disguise
himself (transform in the KJV) as an angel of light, and that those
who work for him are likewise disguised and hide themselves in positions of
trust in the church to destroy true Biblical Christianity:
2 Cor 11:13-15
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming
themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an
angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be
transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be
according to their works. KJV
transformed: Greek word #3345
metaschematizo (met-askh-ay-mat-id'-zo); from NT:3326 and a
derivative of NT:4976; to transfigure or disguise;
figuratively, to apply (by accommodation): KJV - transfer,
transform (self).
And make no mistake about it, satan was
the serpent in the Garden of Eden:
Rev 12:9
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent,
called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole
world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with
him. KJV
God gives the perfect definition of
this evil light of satan and the good light from Jesus Christ by comparing
it to the difference between good and evil, and sweet and bitter:
Isa 5:20
20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put
darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for
sweet, and sweet for bitter! KJV
The Illuminati today (getting that name
for their having been illuminated [into the mysteries]) have an evil
light in their souls:
Matt 6:22-23
22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single,
thy whole body shall be full of light.
23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness.
If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that
darkness! KJV
All these references to "light."
The first mention of this controversy of "light" is in the forth verse of
the Old Testament, where we see light and darkness separated on the first
day (but no sun until the fourth day [Gen 1:14-19]):
Gen 1:4
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light
from the darkness. KJV
And in the forth verse in the New
Testament we are informed of who that good light was:
John 1:1-5
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and
the Word [Jesus Christ (see verse 14 "and
the Word was made flesh"] was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made
that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it
not. KJV
Back to the Garden of Eden
We are not told all that was done in
the Garden of Eden, and it is obvious that much has been withheld from us by
God's good design, but we do know that Eve became pregnant there with
satan's son Cain. (See:
What was the Real sin in the garden of Eden?) God
forgave them of the greater spiritual sin because they did it ignorantly, not understanding the great
controversy between God and His created being, satan. But God still
left the flesh curse on Adam and Eve, and true to God's word Adam did die in
that day that God had formed him:
Gen 2:17
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat
of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou
shalt surely die KJV
2 Peter 3:8
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day
is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand
years as one day. KJV
Gen 5:5
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty
years: and he died. KJV
And no man has ever been allowed to
live a thousand years (one day with God), Enoch's son Methuselah, Noah's
grandfather, came the closest and he lived 969 years (Gen 5:27).
I feel like I'm all over the board
here with this one. Let me just sum up your answer as thus:
At the top of the mysteries is satan
himself and his servant demons (evil spirits). Under him (on Earth)
are his descendants (the Kenites [Heb. #7017]; i.e., the sons of
Cain) interbred with Illuminated men who
would call themselves "Jews," and you would recognize them as such (the
Judaic families of the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, etc.). Under
them are the varying degrees of initiated men, both "Jews" and "Gentiles,"
who in the lower degrees are lied to about the symbols and meanings in
Freemasonry, and who think that it is just a benevolent fraternity of men.
Under them is the general mass of humanity, both "Jew" and "Gentile" alike
who are kept ignorant to this structure.
At every level of these secret
societies the initiate only knows of the top of their particular system's
degrees. What I mean is that the 1st degree Mason knows of the 33rd
Mason degree, but is kept ignorant of its doings. And the 33rd degree
Mason knows that there is a group above him, but he is kept ignorant of it.
I have heard that there is as high as 97 degrees of Freemasonry (Rite
of Memphis-Misraim), just how many may be above that are unknown to the 90th Degree Mason who
exposed his degree after conversion to Christianity. Few Masons even knew
this until it started being exposed by high level occultists who converted
to Christianity. At every jump up to a higher level these people are
given more of the mystery, more of that (dark) "light," and that damages
their soul. (But they can repent and covert and be saved). But
what happens is that as they move up in the levels and degrees they are
numbed spiritually and move further and further away from God and towards
satan. They actually become literally possessed.
For an inside
look at the illuminati at the higher levels see the two videos (part one and
part two) of Bill Schnoebelen's exposé on the Illuminati. This
is the fellow that wrote the book that I recommended above. Mr.
Schnoebelen
is an accomplished author who has written several books including,
Masonry: Beyond the
Light, Lucifer
Dethroned ; A True Story, and,
Wicca ; Satan's Little
White Lie. Below is the video's description as supplied:
Exposing the Illuminati from
Within. Bill Schnoebelen was a Satanic and Voodoo High Priest,
2nd degree Church of Satan, New Age guru, occultist, channeler, 90th
degree Mason, Knight Templar, and a member of the Illuminati. Bill
shows how the conspiracy works and how it uses the Lodge and the highest
echelons of power and technology to form a new world government.
[Two parts]
There are things in video two that seem
unreal or surreal. For instance, Schnoebelen states that he subsisted
for a whole year eating only human blood and the Catholic's Communion bread.
Also, his belief in UFO's is odd, but then at the end of his dissertation on
UFO's and "aliens" he does state that he believes that these could be evil
spirit manifestations. If you can get by that, there is a whole lot of
meat in these videos, most all of it confirmed by other sources. I
suggest these videos only to show the pure evil that is in all the above
listed secret societies and how that they are interconnected. I am
always careful around ex-Illuminati, ex-Witches, ex-Satanists, etc.
(all of things this man was) because I fear that they may still be able to
be influenced by these spirits. Though I do not doubt the power of
Jesus Christ to cleanse them fully. At the end of the second video
Schnoebelen gives an excellent dissertation on the dangers of the newer
Bible versions. In that regard see our:
Adulterations in the Newer Bible Versions (NIV, NASB...); Proof that the
King James Bible (KJV) is the True Word of God.
Part one (video 1 hour 54 Min. long)
Exposing the Illuminati from Within. Part 1 - Bill Schnoebelen
Part two (video 1 hour 50 Min. long)
Exposing the Illuminati from Within. Part 2 - Bill Schnoebelen
You asked:
"Do you think our leaders, that clearly are
involved in some secret societies, know what's going on behind the
scenes but have so much personal wealth, power and comfort they just
don't really care what happens to the rest of us on the bottom of
the totem pole?"
Yes. They know to a
certain degree that something is going on above them, but they aren't show
the whole picture until and unless they reach the very highest degrees.
Men like President G.W. Bush (Skull & Bones) and ex-President Bill Clinton
(Illuminati) know full well whom they serve.
They know who gives them their orders, got them elected, punishes them when
they disobey (Monica-gate, Watergate, etc.). And those that
engage in the Homosexual romps in the Bohemian Grove know that they are
engaging in a Satanic mock(?) human sacrifice under a statue of the false
god Molech (sacrificing
living children by immolation to Molech
is approved in the Jewish Talmud
[Sanhedrin 64a-64b]). As these
men moved up in the degrees of the secret societies they knew the ever
darker oaths and pledges they made during each progressing initiation.
These men are evil. Being initiated taking death-oaths with daggers
pushed point-first on their chest, naked with ropes around their necks,
Homosexual sodomy rites (in the higher degrees, and Homosexual Pedophilia
rites at the very top), etc.
The
Yale cheerleader (yep!) Pres. George W. Bush knew what
he was doing when he drank from a human skull and slept all night in a
coffin during his Skull and Bones initiations. (Adolph Hitler was also
illuminated [*see below].)
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Dietrich Eckart, [Hitler's]
spiritual mentor and father figure ...died in 1923 of Heart
Attack induced by a Morphine addiction, On his deathbed Eckart Said:
"Follow
Hitler ! He will dance, but it is I who have called the tune
!" "I have initiated him into the 'Secret Doctrine', opened
his centers in vision and given him the means to communicate with
the Powers." "Do not mourn for me: I shall have influenced
history more than any other German." —
Source;
and also in Jim Marrs' book, Rule By Secrecy, pg. 160.
And it is notable that supposed
Christian President George W. Bush refused to mention Jesus Christ's name in
his speech at an internationally televised multi-faith memorial service for the
victims of 911, in a Christian church yet! (National Cathedral on
Sept. 14, 2001.) He instead used the universal term "God." I
know because I watched it. Christianity took a hit that day.
This was not some innocent mistake, it was intentional. And at the
event I watched with shock as (the so-called Christian) Pres. G.W. Bush
quoted this Scripture aloud: "...As
we have been assured, neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities
nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, can
separate us from God's love." (Rom 8:38-39a)
but
left off the last clause: "which is in Christ Jesus
our Lord." (Rom 8:39b). No true
Christian could do that by accident. God saw.
Rom 8:38-39
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor
principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to
separate us from the love of God,
which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. KJV
Knowing that he professed to be a
Christian, nobody would have the right to fault Pres. Bush had he read the
Scripture as it appeared in the Bible, and my guess is that nobody would
have complained, not even the antichristian Judaic Abraham Foxman of the
ADL. Men like this are not as they appear to
us, they are Satanists. Many of your heroes are really villains.
There are very many popular Christian leaders who are Freemasons, high
degreed Freemasons, illuminated men, but for time's sake I won't mention
names here because then I would have to devote pages to document it.
You can do your search on the Internet and find some solid documentation.
My point is that these men don't fear God, much less serve Him, but they all have one thing in
common, true to the hierarchy I listed above, they all have "fear of the Jews" (John
7:13). They know where the true power lies in this world.
"It was not my intention to
doubt that the doctrines of the Illuminati had not spread in the United
States. On the contrary, no one is more fully satisfied of this fact
than I am." — U.S. President George Washington,
1782.
"The world is governed by very
different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind
the scenes." — (Judaic) British Prime Minister
Benjamin Disraeli, 1844.
"Since I entered politics, I
have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the
biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and
manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a
power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so
complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath
when they speak in condemnation of it." —
U.S. President Woodrow Wilson, 1913.
"From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt
[Judaic, founder of the Illuminati] to
those of Karl Marx [Judaic, father of
Communism], to those of Trotsky
[Judaic, Bolshevik revolutionary and Communist leader in the post-1917
Revolution USSR], Bela Kun
[Judaic, Hungarian Communist and revolutionary],
Rosa Luxembourg [Judaic, socialist leader
and revolutionary in Germany], and Emma
Goldman [Judaic, Lithuanian-born anarchist
known as "Red Emma"], this world wide
conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution
of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious
malevolence and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It
played a definitely recognizable role in the tragedy of the French
Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement
during the nineteenth century, and now at last this band of
extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of
Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of
their heads [the (Jewish) Bolshevik Revolution of
1917], and have become practically the
undisputed masters of that enormous empire." —
(Judaic) British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, 1920.
"I am a most unhappy man. I
have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is
controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is
concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our
activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be
one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and
dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by
free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the
majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small
group of dominant men." — U.S. President
Woodrow Wilson, 1916 (Speaking on his passing of the Federal Reserve Act
in 1913 which gave ten Jewish banking houses control of Americas money
system).
And they call us "conspiracy
theorists!" The above men are nation leaders and they all speak of the
same conspiracy (and the same perpetrators)!
So then, what is the mystery of the
mysteries? What's the big secret? The mystery is that Lucifer is the (false) god that all
these organizations are pledged to serve, and he is the false god of this
world as we see in 2nd Thes 2:4, and "Wherein in time
past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the
prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the
children of disobedience" (Eph 2:2). The mysteries is satan's
answer to God's world, they are the design by which satan imagines himself
to triumph over God, taking His (God's) place. The Bible spoke
explicitly on this matter:
2 Thess 2:1-4
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit,
nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at
hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be
revealed, the son of perdition
[satan/antichrist];
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or
that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God. KJV
So they didn't have to sell their
souls over to satan to learn the mystery, they could have just opened their
Bible. Of course by the time satan tells them, it is too late for
them, they are wholly given over to satan, they are possessed in every sense
of the word.
And the top men of the mystery
religions, the Illuminated men, are finally at the top of their degrees told
that they shall reign with satan over this world after God is finally
destroyed by the rejection of the world. Of course this is absurdity,
but they believe it. These illuminated men—not all of them, but the
top men, the men at the very top, the men that illuminate other men, the men
that wrote the Jewish Kabbalah and Talmud—are for
all appearances men who today call themselves "Jews." They are the
leaders of the beast system in Revelation chapter thirteen (in the
Tribulation). And as the leaders of the New World Order (the beast
system) they are the beast that receives the worship of the world
along with their master satan (the dragon):
Rev 13:3-4
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly
wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the
beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon
[satan/antichrist]
which gave power unto the beast: and they
worshipped the beast [the "NWO" leaders],
saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
KJV
Of course, there is something
that satan isn't telling them. This "secret" you can only learn by
opening-up God's Bible. Satan knows it, he read the Bible. And it
is mainly this: satan is going to loose. And these men that subdued
the world to bring satan in as the (false) god of this world are themselves
destroyed by God.
So these men who have all the power of
mankind on Earth, and who thought to destroy God and replace him with
Lucifer (satan/antichrist/dragon/devil/etc.) are destroyed by God,
eternally. So far away from defeating God were these evil men that
they did not catch-on to the fact that God was aware of their plans; and
what's more, that He turned their wisdom against them, "For
the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He
taketh the wise in their own craftiness." (1 Cor 3:19), and that He
used them. As always, God was in ultimate control at every turn.
Rev 17:12-17
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which
have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour
with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength
unto the beast.
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall
overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and
they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore
sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast,
these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and
shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to
agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast,
until the words of God shall
be fulfilled. KJV
A fitting punishment for disobedient
blasphemous men who supposed to do battle with God and live, much less win.
In closing, all of this "conspiracy,"
all of this "New Word Order," all of the secret societies, all of the global
control of finance, media, education, and (corrupted) religion, is under
satan's control who is using a certain identifiable group of remarkable,
wealthy-beyond-measure men on this Earth to overthrow God's ordered world,
just like he did in "the world that then was"
(2 Pet 3:6a). (See:
When was The beginning?)
Rev 12:3-4a
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and
behold a great red dragon [AKA
satan], having seven heads and ten horns,
and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars
[souls, see Job 38:7]
of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: ... KJV
Satan lost that above first battle, just as he
shall loose this current one, which is why we are here today in this flesh
world. Sides are being drawn, decisions made, fates set; stay with God
through Jesus Christ and you shall win and live, eternally. And as for
those who defy God:
Rev 20:11-15
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face
the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were
opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead
were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according
to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell
delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man
according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.
This is the
second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into
the lake of fire. KJV
There
is no third death. The first death is the death of the flesh
body. The second death is the death of the soul, and it is quite
complete and final. It is eternal death. As contrasted by
eternal life for the faithful overcomers:
Rev 21:1-7
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the
first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of
heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle
of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his
people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be
no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more
pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new.
And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and
the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the
water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and
he shall be my son. KJV
Christians,
do not dare to dabble with Freemasonry, etc!
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God bless the study of His Word; in Jesus Christ's Precious and powerful
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