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The Mel Gibson Set-up and his capitulation for "the
fear of the Jews" (Est 8:17, Jn 7:13, 19:38, 20:19)
A reader writes:
Hello Nick,
After the lashing that Mel Gibson got over his statement about the
Jews
on the media last night, I was looking in your site for a good
definition of what a Semetic really is. I know I read it before and
would like to go back and give it a second study.
God Bless
[Xxxxx]
Answer:
Yes, I too have been following this story. And I have
some comments to make on it from the perspective of a Police Officer (which
I am by trade). But first I shall answer your question. A Semite
is anyone descended from Noah's son Shem (Shemite = Semite). This
includes all of true Israel (the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, and kindred
peoples), most Arabs, and a host of other peoples. It does not,
ironically, include 95% of today's so-called "Jews" who use the term in
their libelous "AntiSemite" pejorative.
There are two main groups of
"Jews" today, the Sephardic and the Ashkenazi Jews.
Today's Jews, the 90%-95% (number disputed and unascertainable) that are
what is called Ashkenazi Jews, are of Japheth, one of Noah's other
sons, and they herald from the Turko-Mongoloid Khazar peoples. They
also have other blood in them that we won't go into presently. But the
point is that these so-called "Jews" have no true Israel (and little
Shemite/Semite) blood in them. See the below articles and e-books that
we carry which are written by Jews themselves, lest you think this is
so-called AntiSemitism:
The Thirteenth
Tribe by Arthur Koestler
Facts Are
Facts by Benjamin H. Freedman
The Life
of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel
by
Jack
Bernstein
A Jewish
Defector Warns America by Benjamin H. Freedman
Now to the Mel Gibson incident
I will comment on this from the
perspective of a Police Officer. I have been a Police Officer in a
major Midwest City for almost twenty years now. When I first heard
this story breaking I was shocked by something that I know that many others,
not being Police officers, missed. I refer to the sabotage story:
Arresting deputy
didn’t want to ‘defame’ Gibson
‘I don’t take pride
in hurting Mr. Gibson’ says officer, who is Jewish
Surprise!, the Officer who leaked
info in the Gibson case is a Judaic
Below he is seen shamelessly posing
with official police and court
records, nicely fanned out, of the
arrest incident for distribution to
the mass media |
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Los Angeles County Sheriff deputy
James Mee speaks to a reporter
Monday, July 31, 2006, as he arrived
at his home in Calabasas, Calif. The
allegations of anti-Semitism during
the drunken driving arrest of
actor-director Mel Gibson on Friday,
July 28, stemmed from a leaked
arrest report that quoted Gibson as
saying, "The Jews are responsible
for all the wars in the world," and
asking deputy Mee, "Are you a Jew?"
(AP Photo/Nick Ut) ―
Source |
...“I don’t take
pride in hurting Mr. Gibson,” said Mee, a
17-year deputy who is Jewish. “What I had
hoped out of this is that he would think
twice before he gets behind the wheel of a
car and was drinking. ... I don’t want to
ruin his career. I don’t want to defame him
in any way or hurt him.”
An official police
report on the arrest substantiates claims
that Gibson made anti-Semitic remarks and
threatened a deputy, officials said earlier
Monday.
Sheriff’s
Department officials sent prosecutors their
case, which also says a tequila bottle was
found in Gibson’s car when he was pulled
over.
The entertainment
Web site TMZ.com had reported that the
sheriff’s department was considering
eliminating the anti-Semitic remarks from
its official report.
The report forwarded to
prosecutors cites Gibson as making
disparaging comments about Jews, according
to the law enforcement official, who spoke
on condition of anonymity because of the
sensitivity of the matter." ―
Source
So, the officer doesn't "take pride in
hurting Mr. Gibson"? I'm sorry, that Police Officer is lying through
his teeth. And Gibson ought to get a good attorney who will have no
problem showing that by the Officer's actions, he was prejudiced towards Mr.
Gibson and therefore unable to make an unbiased and untainted Arrest Report
on him. In other words, the Officer has put his own credibility on the
line. How so? We shall explain that momentarily. And I
shall show that Officer Mee should be brought up on internal discipline
charges for several of his actions, which were both unprofessional and
improper, and I would suspect against the very rules and regulations of his
own department―especially if Officer Mee profits financially by this, which
he surely shall, if he already hasn't.
But first I must say that I am
not here defending drunk driving, nor do I perceive that Mel Gibson is
defending his drunk driving (in fact he has owned up to it, which is more
than most do who have a pending court case). That isn't the point here, ironically.
Gibson is not being lampooned for drunk driving, he is being pilloried for
daring to say the truth about our Judaic overlords. The
Judaic-controlled media likes to hype this us by using pejorative terms
such as "AntiSemitic tirades," etc. But what did Mel Gibson really
say? According to their own reports, the statements that so offended
the Judaic masters were:
"TMZ reported that Gibson said, 'The Jews are
responsible for all the wars in the world,' and asked the arresting
officer, 'Are you a Jew?'" ―
Source
Ok, he asked the officer if he was a
Jew. Probably because he (rightly) sensed that he was being baited.
And regarding the comment "The Jews are responsible for all the wars in
the world," what of it? Gibson didn't say anything that wasn't
true, or anything that Jewish authors and rabbis themselves haven't lauded
over our heads. For instance (and I have many more), the Judaic author,
Marcus Eli Ravage, a member of the staff of the
New York Tribune, in "A Real Case Against the Jews,"
carried in Century Magazine, January-February edition of 1928,
arrogantly and fearlessly stated:
"If you really are
serious when you talk of Jewish plots, may I not direct your
attention to one worth talking about? What use is it wasting words
on the alleged control of your public opinion by Jewish financiers,
newspaper owners, and movie magnates, when you might as well also
justly accuse us of the proved control of your whole civilization...
You have not begun to appreciate
the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are subverters. We
have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and have
played havoc with them. We
[Jews]
have been at the bottom of not merely of the latest war
[WWI]
but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every
other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord
and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We
are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing
it...Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours
if we had left you alone.
But we did not leave you alone. We
took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous
structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your
history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated
Africa or Asia. And we did it solely by the irresistible might of
our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda...
Take the three principal revolutions
in modern times, the French, the American and Russian. What are they
but the triumph of the Jewish idea of social, political and economic
justice? And the end is still a long way off. We still dominate
you...
Is it any wonder you resent us? We
have put a clog upon your progress. We have imposed upon you an
alien book
[the Scofield Bible, with
it's pro-Zionist footnotes]
and alien faith [Judeo-Christianity, a false
Christianity]
which is at cross-purposes with your native spirit, which keeps you
everlastingly ill-at-ease, and which you lack the spirit either to
reject or to accept in full...We have merely divided your soul,
confused your impulses, paralyzed your desires...
So why should you not resent us? If
we were in your place we should probably dislike you more cordially
than you do us. But we should make no bones about telling you
why...You Christians worry and complain about the Jew's influence in
your civilization. We are, you say, an international people, a
compact minority in your midst, with traditions, interests,
aspirations and objectives distinct from your own. And you declare
that this state of affairs is a measure of your orderly development;
it muddles your destiny. I do not altogether see the danger. Your
world has always been ruled by minorities; and it seems to me a
matter of indifference what remote origin and professed creed of the
governing clique is. The influence, on the other hand, is certainly
there, and it is vastly greater and more insidious than you appear
to realize...
That is what puzzles and amuses and
sometimes exasperates us about your game of Jew-baiting. It sounds
so portentous. You go about whispering terrifyingly of the hand of
the Jew in this and that and the other thing. It makes us quake. We
are conscious of the injury we did when we imposed upon you our
alien faith and traditions. And then you specify and talk vaguely of
Jewish financiers and Jewish motion picture promoters, and our
terror dissolves in laughter. The Gentiles, we see with relief, will
never know the real blackness of our crimes...
You call us subversive, agitators,
revolution mongers. It is the truth, and I cower at your
discovery...We undoubtedly had a sizable finger in the Lutheran
Rebellion, and it is simply a fact that we were the prime movers in
the Bourgeois Democratic Revolutions of the century before last,
both in France and America. If we were not, we did not know our own
interests. The Republican revolutions of the 18th Century freed us
of our age-long political and social disabilities. They benefited
us...You go on rattling of Jewish conspiracies and cite as instances
the Great War and the Russian Revolution! Can you wonder that we
Jews have always taken your anti-Semites rather lightly, as long as
they did not resort to violence?"
Ok, here's the problem that I
mentioned in the beginning of this article. AntiSemitic remarks are
not against the law in America, and they have no place in a Police report
that is supposedly detailing a drunk driving arrest. I have read
literally dozens of stories on this incident, and in one, they made a big
deal that Officer Mee was asked to redo his report removing inflammatory
sections. That is what Officer Mee's supervisors should have done!
What Mee did was to let his Jewishness cloud his better Judgement as a
Police Officer. I have been called many things in my 20 years as a
Policeman, none of them making it into official Police reports because they
are irrelevant to the charges that the offender was under arrest for.
Now, had Gibson, say, shot a man and said that he did it because the man was
Jewish and "the Jews start all the wars," then it would be appropriate to
include that narrative in the Police report. But Gibson was not under
investigation for a Hate Crime, he was under investigation for driving while
under the influence of alcohol. His political views and grasp of
history not at all being relevant to that crime. Let's look at one of the stories and
analyze it for intent, because I see clearly what is going on here, as
should any other in the courts system or Police fields:
"The
entertainment Web site TMZ.com had reported that the sheriff’s
department was considering eliminating the anti-Semitic remarks from its
official report.
The report forwarded to prosecutors cites Gibson as
making disparaging comments about Jews, according to the law enforcement
official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity
of the matter." ―
Source
Two things here are evident,
one, that somebody knowingly and unlawfully leaked info that they shouldn't
have, "on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter".
And two, that the supervisor was overridded when Officer Mee went to his
Jewish press pal to pressure the Police Department to slant this case
against Mel Gibson by including immaterial and inflammatory information into
the Police report that Mr. Gibson shall be tried in court upon.
Ironically, in effect, they helped Gibson's case in court, and will most
likely have caused it to be thrown out in preliminary hearings based upon
Officer Mee's improper, personal-based, and prejudicial conduct during and after the arrest.
What appears to
have happened, to me, is that this Jewish Officer saw a chance to
get back at "The passion of the Christ" Mel Gibson; perhaps he was
laying for Mel, following him for days. Who knows, the whole
thing may have been a set-up from the beginning, evident by the
"coincidence" that pictures have "surfaced" from a bar that very
night showing Mel drunk [Mel's
photos from before his DUI arrest Check gallery of Gibson boozing
it up at restaurant --In Touch Weekly].
What a "coincidence." In captions of the pictures at that
Website Gibson is reported to have said, "God, I am drunk."
Did that mean that he felt that it was hitting him harder than it
should? If I were Gibson I would go immediately for a drug
screen to see if I had been slipped a Mickey (dosed).
Or maybe
Officer Mee was just on the lookout for whenever the known drinker
Gibson drives by. Mel, being drunk, fell right into Officer
Mee's hands. Mee probably baited Gibson with little remarks
like "The Jews are God's chosen," and "we are all Jews now," etc.
For why would Gibson ask him if he was Jewish, if he wasn't acting
as though he was. Thus taunting the drunk Gibson and causing
him to speak on the Jewish question while not in his right faculty.
I am sure that Gibson doesn't go around to Cops speaking on the
well-known (and admitted by them, see below) Jewish instigation of
wars unless led there. Also, Gibson is reported to have said
"F*ck the Jews." That kind of outburst is usually only
in reply to some comment by another. Unless we are to believe
that in a drunken stupor Gibson was wandering around the police
station incoherently rambling "F*ck the Jews, F*ck the Jews, F*ck
the Jews." No, evidenced by his after-arrest conduct, it
is far more likely that the Officer purposely made some statement to
draw Gibson out.
Then the
Jewish Cop, sensing revenge for the Passion movie, which he
undoubtedly saw as "AntiSemitic," as so many Judaics do, commenced
to write down these "AntiSemitic comments" in the Police report.
Then handed it in to his supervisor for approval. The
supervisor rightly saw that the arrest report was flawed and
improper, and that if sent through in it's present form would
probably exonerate Gibson by means of a tossed-out case.
Mee
wasn't going to let that happen. Here was Mel "son of a
Holocaust denier" Gibson served up on a silver platter. He
will pay for what he said, and for what his father believes in, and
for what Hitler did; and the hell with the DUI case. Mee
contacts a fellow Judaic in the media, faxes him the original
report, and says that if he doesn't get involved and scare his
supervisor, Gibson will get away with his "AntiSemitism."
Then the Judaic
media man calls Mee's supervisor's supervisor, and asks if
"AntiSemitism is his department's policy." After a few more
words about "press coverage" and "media spotlight," and the prospect
of the original report showing up on CNN ABC, NBC, MTV, etc. et
al, the boss of Mee's supervisor says to take a step back and
approve Mee's repost as submitted. This entire department
should be investigated if justice there can circumvented by a
threatening phone call from someone purporting to be a news
reporter! Police supervisors have the right and the duty to
approve all reports before they are submitted, and to direct the
Officer to make changes where appropriate―that is what they are
there for―to supervise. And when a supervisor
signs a report, as they must sign all Police reports, he is taking
responsibility for it's content. Mee's supervisor was forced
to sign a bad report, for "the fear of the Jews" (Est 8:17, Jn 7:13,
19:38, 20:19). This is your justice system in action.
These are things that a jury
would have to look at, had this case gone to trial, which it won't.
Gibson will strike a plea bargain, plead guilty, pay a fine, do community
service (no doubt in the Jewish community), and all will be swept clean.
And Officer Mee will not be disciplined, for "the fear of the Jews" (Est
8:17, Jn 7:13, 19:38, 20:19). Gibson will never again make a movie
that the Jewish censors don't fully approve of. Everybody wins but the
truth.
What is being lost in all this Jewish sentiment is that
the accused has rights. He had the right to a fair and impartial
investigation in his arrest, and it is quite clear that Officer Mee let his
Jewishness cloud his better Judgement. So that now, no court can be
certain of anything written in that report by Officer Mee. In judicial
work there is a saying that goes like this: "the fruit of the poison tree is
inadmissible." What that means is that any evidence that was gathered
after an impropriety on the part of any Police investigator is thereby
inadmissible in court. In other words, Mel Gibson's Police report may
well be inadmissible in court.
In other words, if Mel has the
guts to fight this, he may well walk free. Officer Mee would then have
to
pay a heavy cost for that in disciplinary hearings. And it also opens
up all of the other cases that Officer Mee worked on to greater scrutiny, as
it is apparent that Officer Mee places personal racial pride and prejudices
over impartial Police investigation. I wonder how Officer Mee's Arabic
arrestees fare? Officer Mee does not belong on the street
having contact with citizens. And if he worked for my Police
Department he would answering telephones somewhere in a basement office away
from civilian contact, most likely stripped of Police powers pending
investigation of the leak and the tainted investigation of Gibson. It
will be interesting if his department buckles to Judaic pressure and does
not discipline Officer Mee. Today, in the Judaic media, Officer Mee is
a hero, tomorrow in his department he may be under investigation. But
that is in a perfect world, where truth matters and all are treated equally.
But Officer Mee isn't equal, he is royalty, he is a Judaic.
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Screen capture of AOL's news
ticker, Aug 1st, 2006; where we see in action the power of "the
fear of the Jews" (Est 8:17, Jn 7:13, 19:38, 20:19).
You also have to wonder where the Judaic-controlled AOL (America
On-Line) found the above picture to use here, making Mel look like
he is scared to death of his Judaic masters. Some Judaic
Website programmer searched the archives high and low to select just
the "right" picture to place here with Mel's mia Culpa (my
apology). The beast is so easy to see through once you know
his methods. His method here was perception control.
Without reading a word, one look at that picture and you immediately
sense that the man in it just did something very terrible and is
scared and in big trouble with somebody, maybe even God by the way
they have him looking upwards. It's all a tactic to train your
mind into their thought. |
Sadly, Gibson broke down and is
now presently groveling for Judaic forgiveness. Something that, as we
shall and even now do see, is going to be drawn-out and painful. The
Judaics do not forgive; remember their own saying: (full unsanitized
version) "Never Forgive, Never Forget," not as you have
heard it as just "Never forget," as evidenced by the AntiGentile
Abraham Foxman:
"Abraham H. Foxman, national director
of the Anti-Defamation League, called Gibson's apology 'unremorseful and
insufficient'." ―Source
What more does the Racist
Abraham Foxman want out of Mel Gibson? His head by guillotine? The Judaics shall extract their
pound of flesh, and they won't make it easy on Mel Gibson. Observe the
below absurd story carried on the TMZ outlet that "broke the story" (and no
doubt were the meddlers that influenced Mee's Police Department to keep
intact the inflammatory comments in the arrest report).
Observe also, how the arrogance
of the Judaic editor of the below Website actually makes a case for the "Jews controlling everything and everyone," including, as TMZ notes for
us, Pope Benedict XVI and Senator Hillary Clinton. What happens is
that when the Judaics feel strong, they make mistakes and let out secrets
showing their terrible power, as Mr. Harvey Levin, the Judaic managing editor of TMZ.com has done in the below posting which mocks Mel Gibson with the
typical Judaic revenge.
I suspect that the Learned Elders of Zion are
not at all happy with the bad press that this incident shall ultimately
bring upon International Jewry, as many shall see this as vengeance for
Gibson overriding Abraham Foxman and making the Passion of the Christ
movie; just as the persecutions last year of "Holocaust Deniers"
has injured Judaic standing in the world. They are being exposed by
their own arrogance. Also, with Gibson's picture below observe again
their tactic of picture-selection to taint a story and torment a victim of
their persecution. Also, while reading the below lies, also bear in
mind their Yiddish saying, "Never Forgive, Never Forget."
They don't want Gibson's apology, they want his public begging and
humiliation.
Posted Aug 1st 2006 6:05PM by
Harvey Levin Filed under:
Celebrity
Justice, Mel
Gibson
TMZ has obtained a
letter from a prominent
Los Angeles Rabbi asking Mel Gibson to speak at
his temple on Yom Kippur, the Jewish day of atonement.
In
the letter, David Baron, the Rabbi for the
Temple of the Arts,
the largest entertainment industry synagogue in the
United States, wrote: "...I wish to invite you to
come and speak in order that you might directly
express to the Jewish community your remorse. I feel
that Yom Kippur, Day of Atonement, would be an
appropriate time."
Rabbi Baron added: "In our faith we
are commanded to forgive when the offending party
takes the necessary steps and offers an apology from the
heart."
Rabbi
Baron, who recently spent time with Pope Benedict XVI,
has had prominent Yom Kippur speakers in the past. Last
year, Senator Hillary Clinton spoke on personal
forgiveness.
On Tuesday, Gibson acknowledged he
made anti-Semitic remarks while under arrest on
suspicion of drunk driving. The actor reached out to
the Jewish community to "help me on my journey through
recovery." Gibson said he was not anti-Semitic but
added "I am in the process of understanding where
those vicious words came from..."
TMZ contacted Gibson's rep. No word
back on whether Gibson will accept the holy offer.
Pleeeaase, "holy offer"? Stop it, we aren't that
stupid anymore. You yourselves have educated us to your ways, dum-dums.
:o)
And as for you, Mel Gibson; you blinked when you should have been
staring―now they own you. Shame on you. You should have taken
the DUI, yes; but you shouldn't have backed-down when all you said was the
truth. The International Judaics do start all the wars, including this
present one in Lebanon which we or the UN shall have to extract them from,
or that may spread region-wide. And they are chomping at the bit to
bomb Iran. Syria is currently under high alert (wisely) fearing
Israeli attack. The whole world is very nervous right now. From
the Judaic's own manifesto we see that they admit to causing wars. How
come it isn't "AntiSemitic" when a Jew says it?
...[3.]
We [Jews]
must be in a position to respond to every act of opposition by war
with the neighbors of that country which dares to oppose us: but if
these neighbors should also venture to stand collectively together
against us, then we must offer resistance by a universal war
[WWI
and WWII (and
WWIII
in the Mideast?)].
[4.]
The principal factor of success in the political is the secrecy of its
undertakings: the word should not agree with the deeds of the diplomat.
[5.]
We must compel the governments of the GOYIM
[a pejorative for non-Jews―i.e., human cattle]
to take action in the direction favored by our widely conceived plan,
already approaching the desired consummation, by what we shall represent
as public opinion, secretly promoted by us through the means of that
so-called "Great Power" - THE PRESS, WHICH, WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS
THAT MAY BE DISREGARDED, IS ALREADY ENTIRELY IN OUR HANDS.
― Source: The Protocols of the
Learned Elders of Zion, Protocol No. 7. 1897, but published in
1905 (The Protocols of…Zion were the minutes of the First
Zionist Congress held at Basle, Switzerland in 1897 under the
presidency of the ‘father of Modern Zionism,’ the late Theodore
Herzl.) A copy of the Protocols of…Zion is in the British
Museum bearing the date of its reception, August 10, 1906. Source:
https://watchman.news/watchman-bs-site-arcv/plez.htm#26
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POSTSCRIPT:
News Story added on 25, Aug, 2006
(approx. three-four weeks after above article was written). The below
shows that perhaps the attacks on Mel Gibson are latent Jewish hatred over
the Passion of the Christ movie. [Bracketed text] mine―WBSG:
Reiner: Gibson, Come Clean on
`Passion'
Rob Reiner: Gibson Must
Acknowledge That `Passion' Was Anti-Semitic
Source:
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=2358573&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
LOS ANGELES Aug 25,
2006 (AP)— Mel Gibson's apology
for making drunken anti-Semitic remarks isn't enough to redeem
him, actor-producer Rob Reiner said.
The actor also must acknowledge that "his
work reflects anti-Semitism," particularly the 2004 hit movie
"The Passion of the Christ," Reiner told Associated
Press Radio.
"When he comes to the understanding that he
has done that, and can come out and say, you know, `My views
have been reflected in my work and I feel bad that I've done
that,' then that will be the beginning of some
reconciliation for him," Reiner said.
Some critics attacked Gibson's movie as
portraying Jews as evil. Supporters said the movie was merely
being faithful to Gospel accounts of Jesus' arrest and
crucifixion.
A call to Gibson's publicist seeking comment was
not immediately returned Friday.
Gibson publicly apologized for an anti-Semitic
tirade he unleashed when he was arrested for drunken driving in
Malibu on July 28. He has called the remarks "despicable."
Earlier this month, Gibson pleaded no contest to
a misdemeanor charge in a deal that calls for alcohol
rehabilitation, fines and probation.
Reiner, however, said Gibson also must do
some "major soul-searching."
"It's not a matter of just apologizing for
some words you've said," said Reiner, who is Jewish. "It's to
really understand why it is you're anti-Semitic and where those
feelings came from."
"I [the Judaic Reiner - WBSG]
believe that people [the Christian Mel
Gibson - WBSG] can be redeemed and
people can change, but that's going to be a very long process,"
he added.
Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All
rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast,
rewritten, or redistributed.
WBSG note:
What on Earth would the Judaic Christ-denying Reiner know about
"redemption," having denied the Prince of Life, Jesus
Christ? And as for the "very
long process" (for
Gibson's redemption and "change") in the last paragraph above; that
just reflects the Judaic aversion to forgiving others. "Never
Forgive, Never Forget" ― the true uncensored Jewish
saying. Sanitized for Goyim (human cattle; i.e.,
non-Jews) consumption to simply: "Never Forget."
Acts 3:14-15
14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a
murderer to be granted unto you;
15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised
from the dead; whereof we are witnesses. KJV
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A Christian Arab woman's uncomplimentary assessment of
Christian men and women under the sway of the amoral International Judaics
Below is an interesting article that inadvertently
explains much of what we have been saying here at WBSG regarding the
International Judaic's degrading of our morals, specifically the morals of
our women. The article is from a Website called Crescent & Cross,
and I don't know anything about it except what they say of themselves in
their "about us" page:
"The Crescent and The Cross Solidarity Movement
Mission Statement: Telling the truth about the relationship between
Christianity and Islam and why they have been deliberately set at war
against each other by interested third parties." ―
Source
The author of the article,
Joanna Francis, is clearly upset. She is angry and doesn't mince
words. She appears, from this article (and forgive me if I'm wrong),
to be an Arab Christian living in America writing of what is transpiring in
the Israeli war on Lebanon. Her first loyalty seems to be to Arabs,
which is her right. But for an American, she seems less than
patriotic. Though I may be reading her wrong through her anger (she is
rightly upset at all the innocents in Lebanon who are being killed).
But she fails to notice that the terrorist group Hezbollah (whom she
calls "men" compared to American men whom she refers to as "bitches") is
fighting from among them, drawing Israeli fire power at them.
The only comment that I would
make to Ms. Francis is that it is not a particularity brave thing to do for
Hezbollah to hide among civilians hoping that their inadvertent deaths can
become political economy to their political organization. American
men, or as she calls us, "bitches," would not fight and hide amongst
civilians thereby endangering them. After all, they are firing rockets
from the rooftops of civilian structures―what did they think any enemy army
would do in such a case, just shrug their shoulders and say "we can't take
out that missile battery because civilians are nearby"?
No, Hezbollah intends
for a high civilian casualty rate to turn the powers of the political in
their favor. Which it is succeeding in doing. Take for instance
the Qana strike which killed 56 people, the majority of them children.
In one article that I have seen, by
[The Lebanese website
LIBANOSCOPIE], the children are reported to be handicapped
children that Hezbollah moved into the building purposely. Then set up
a missile launce site on the building's roof. And when Israel bombed
the missile site, the sacrificed victims were killed. The media then
moved in, and the rest is history. Hezbollah gained a tremendous amount
of political economy from that "operation," as they call them. The sad
thing is that Hezbollah thought that handicapped children were less
important that other children―and thus chose them as sacrificial victims for
their own selfish ends. Ms. Francis is either an intelligence
operative or very naive, or perhaps just blinded by racial pride, or is an
emotional woman.
As to my position on this war?
I feel that Israel was very foolish to get drawn into this. They
cannot win, even if they win. That is the terrorist's game, for they
cannot loose, even if they loose. Hezbollah won the moment that Israel
bit. Hezbollah is now the top dog movement in the global Islamic resistance to
Israel, surpassing Al Qaeda in one fell swoop―even if every last Hezbollah fighter is killed. For terrorist-style organizations, dying is not losing. Muslims have a thing for the
martyr complex. That is why healthy young Muslim men blow themselves
up because they are misled into thinking that they will be martyrs rewarded
by God. What a shock they have when the bright flashes into their eyes
as the bomb goes off and they instantly see God, and feel His great anger at
their murders and their own suicide―which alone would have been enough to
anger God, much less taking innocent civilians along with them! The
Islamic martyrs are not enjoying themselves in Heaven defiling (raping) 72
virgins, they are in hell awaiting Judgement Day.
And no, neither the Muslims nor
the Jews have rights to Israel―it belongs to Christians through Jesus Christ
(and Christian Great Brittan had it after 1914, the Muslims lived there
since then, and the Jews stole it in 1948), though we (Christians) shall not
have it again until after antichrist defiles it in the Great Tribulation,
and God cleanses it for all eternity.
Unfortunately, regarding the
Christian West's capitulation to International Jewry, she is not altogether
incorrect. And she paints quite an ugly picture of the once-Christian
Western nations, especially America, under Judaic amoral sway. Anyway,
below is that article (Original
source) provided without further comment:
"Regarding what took place on September
11, well it's very good... Well, it's not good, but it will
generate immediate sympathy for Israel."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu’s response to the attacks on America as reported
in The Jerusalem Post, September 12, 2001.
Hezbollah: Model for
Manliness — Joanna Francis
As I watch the genocidal war crimes being
committed against the Lebanese people, I’m struck by the
images that come across my television screen. I see women
and children badly burned by the illegal chemical weapons
our tax dollars provide to the Israelis for the incineration
of their enemies; bridges, homes and roadways bombed into
oblivion; hundreds of thousands of internal refugees; and
death and misery palpable from halfway around the world.
But I must confess that what strikes me the
most profoundly is the sight of young Lebanese men marching
proudly, as they trample an Israeli flag underfoot.
Hezbollah. Many of them don’t even look old enough to shave,
and yet, they are truly men. The rest of the world hems and
haws at the carnage the Jews have wrought on the once modern
and beautiful country of Lebanon. But the average (so-called
Christian) American merely echoes the mantra of his Zionist
masters as he has been trained to do all his life. Americans
confidently state that the Khazar Jews have a right to
“defend their country” and that Hezbollah are terrorists,
militants, and now, insurgents. What they fail to mention is
that those Khazar Jews have about as much right to Palestine
or Lebanon as the Chinese have to France, i.e., none. They
are simply Jewish squatters on Arab land. And the Arabs
intend to evict them. That is not terror. That is justice.
And that is manly.
So, Mr. Brave Christian Weekend-Warrior,
call Hezbollah terrorists if you will, but one thing you
cannot call them is: cowardly. With few exceptions, they are
the only people brave enough to stand up to the Jew and spit
back in his face. They are willing to fight to the death for
their homeland, their honor, their religion, and their
women. Yes, I said “their women.” You see, unlike you, they
will not let the Jewish pornographers and abortionists
defile their culture and turn their women into whores. You
have been brainwashed into believing that Muslim women hate
their plight of being protected from sexual predators,
getting married young, becoming mothers, being treated with
respect and dignity, being taken care of in their old age by
their children, and living like innocent, strong, beautiful
women. To your surprise, they do not seem to miss the
beer-guzzling, Playboy reading, commitment-phobic,
narcissistic men-children who turn their women over to the
Jewish enemy. Their men are truly manning the frontlines, as
you strain your back to bow as low as possible before your
Jew masters, in true lackey fashion. They own you, because
you have sold yourselves (and us) out to them. You, Mr.
Macho, have become their bitch.
You are the unworthy sons of the great
Christian men who built Western Civilization. They were not
cowards, and they did not fight for the Jew, but for their
own religion, for Europe, and for the safety and honor of
their women. They kept the evil Khazar monsters locked up in
cages where they belong; only to see their descendants
unleash those beasts at the time of the Protestant Revolt.
How our Christian ancestors must be turning over in their
graves. Today, Christian men will only fight against other
Christians (World Wars I and II) or against brave, honorable
Muslims, at the behest of the Jew. Now, the Christians are
the beasts in cages, only allowed out long enough to pimp
for their Zionist masters, and buy the latest edition of
“Girls Gone Wild.”
Those “girls gone wild” are your sisters and
daughters, yet you contribute to their exploitation for your
own dirty, secret pleasure. You have abdicated your role as
men and defenders of the Faith. You have allowed yourselves
to be emasculated by a bunch of ugly, Jewish feminists. You
did not fight for our honor. It is truly stunning how
quickly you ceded Western Civilization, deciding that if you
can’t beat them, you’ll join them. And so you gleefully set
about exploiting our vulnerability, using us like unpaid
prostitutes, too weak and selfish to accept your
responsibility as head of a family. As a Christian, I do not
believe in polygamy, but I can’t help but admire the kind of
man who can take care of four wives, and all their
offspring; while American men put their one wife to work and
then expect her to cook, clean, feed their insatiable egos,
and then have to compete with their childish, Jew-inspired
fantasies in bed at night.
So admit that you are powerless before the
Khazar, step aside, and let “your women” do the fighting. I
have only my pen with which to fight, but at least I’m not
afraid to wield it, full blast, aimed right at my enemy.
Criticize me if you will, but I will pull no punches, use
euphemisms, or grovel before my enemies. I have lost too
much to them. I will not be their bitch. Unlike you, with
your sycophantic pen, when you dare even broach the subject
at all, regarding who has usurped the great heritage our
ancestors created. You make me ashamed to be an American
woman. Muslim women need feel no such shame. Their men would
die (and are dying) rather than hand their daughters and
sisters over to the Jew to be defiled and degraded. Their
honor is safe in the hands of their Muslim mujahadeen. That
is manly.
And don’t tell me that Jesus Christ was a
pacifist and that you are only turning the other cheek.
Christ was not the effete, kumbaya, Birkenstock
sandal-wearing, proto-hippie that the liberals would have us
believe. He wanted us to love one another but He also
believed in justice. Render unto Caesar, and all that. He
confronted the Pharisees face to face with words that you
could only fantasize about using, and wouldn’t dare utter,
even though we live in the last country in the West where
it’s legal to confront the Pharisees. Yet you cower before
them, justifying their incineration of Lebanese babies,
while you pay the Jew to murder the babies you create with
us. You bow before the Israeli flag, a foreign flag, while
the young men of Hezbollah march on top of it. Don’t hide
behind Christianity. It is not for wimps and cowards. Let us
not forget the image of Christ turning over the tables of
the money changers and whipping them out of the temple! That
was manly.
So the next time you turn on the
Zionist-controlled television news and see images of dead
and wounded women and children in Lebanon, just remember:
their men are fighting for them against a far superior
military force (thanks to us). But they are not cowering in
fear. And I wouldn’t be surprised if they were to steal
victory after all of this is over (if it ever is). Because
all they have to do is survive and they have won. The
Israelis have to eliminate Hezbollah to win, and that is
unlikely. You can’t beat a force that is fighting for their
families and for their homeland – in their own homeland. The
home team always has the advantage. Truly, a moral victory
is already assured for Hezbollah. Regardless of the outcome,
they win just for having withstood so much firepower, and
still being able to launch their hapless little Katyusha
rockets back over the fence. Yes, that is manly. Maybe you
American Christian men could learn something from them about
fighting for honor, family and homeland. Maybe you could try
to emulate Hezbollah. They might teach you a lesson or two
in manliness. And if you’re nice, they might even lend you
some testosterone.
Author: joannafrancis2005@yahoo.com
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The "woman wearing a veil in
church" doctrine of (some of) the COG (Church of God) denominations;
also, Homosexuality/Lesbianism; and gender roles
A reader writes:
First I
want to say I enjoy your site greatly and I have been
studying the bible with you guys for over two years now.
My
question is about a friend of mine who is with the Church of
God and she tried to preach some nonsense to me about
how Jesus already came back in the flesh "AGAIN" to fulfill
the prophecy in the old testament about David's ministry
reigning for 40 years. She said Jesus started his ministry
at 30 was crucified at 33 so the prophecy from The Old
Testament was not fulfilled. So he came in the flesh again
for 37 years to minister and fulfill that old testament
prophecy and then ascended back to heaven.
I thought
this was very absurd to say the least. Basically I just want
to know where in the scriptures I can go to help me explain
to her that she is in great error when it comes to this
matter.
Her
church also requires the women at the church to where veils
or they are not following God's commandment. I thought the
veil issue for females pertained to the fallen angels?
Hopefully you understand my main question and can help me
out.
Thank You
God Bless
[X. X.]
Answer:
Hello. You
said in your above about your friend's church's doctrine that:
"I thought this was very absurd to say the least."
It is indeed absurd. And more than that―it is false teaching
that leads the student into disregarding all the endtime
warnings of the Bible. As well as denying the glorious Second
Advent to come. It has the potential of invoking the below
feelings in the hearts of the once-faithful Christian:
2 Peter
3:1-4
3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in
both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken
before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us
the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in
the last days scoffers, walking after their own
lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming?
for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as
they were from the beginning of the creation.
[i.e., 'since the days of old
nothing has changed and nothing will―Christ isn't coming,'
they foolishly think]
KJV
And far more than "absurd," it is sinister, it is setting the stage for the
false god, satan (2nd
Thes 2:4), which we refer to in prophecy as the antichrist.
2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day
[the Second Advent]
shall not come, except
[until after]
there come a falling away first
[the great apostasy], and that man of sin be revealed,
the son of perdition
[satan/antichrist];
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called
God, or that is worshipped; so that he as
God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing
himself that he is God. KJV
The above prophecy finds its fulfillment in
the below:
Revelation 13:4
4 And they worshipped the dragon
[satan/antichrist―see verse 11-12
("ANOTHER beast")]
which gave power unto the beast
[the International Judaic's NWO]:
and they worshipped the beast
[NWO],
saying, Who is like unto the beast
[NWO]?
who is able to make war with him
[i.e., who can resist it?]?
KJV
The
COG (Church of God) is a
corrupt "spiritualist" denomination that entertains familiar
spirits (evil spirits) unawares. They "feel" a "spiritual"
presence, but it is not the Holy Spirit of God that they are
experiencing. Sign of the times, indeed. Perhaps the below
fits them well (as, sadly, it does so many other
pseudo-Christian denominations and church movements):
2 Timothy 3:5-17
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying
the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and
lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with
divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge
of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these
also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate
concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall
be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life,
purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch,
at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out
of them all the Lord delivered me.
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus
[i.e., Christians]
shall suffer persecution
[note that well, Christian; for
they are not vain words!].
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse,
deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned
and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned
them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy
scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto
salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is
profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for
instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect
[fully matured and ready for what comes],
throughly furnished unto all good works. KJV
Regarding where your friend stated:
"Jesus already came back in the
flesh "AGAIN" to fulfill the prophecy in the old
testament about David's ministry reigning for 40
years."
First of all, David was not a priest, he was
king―he had no ministry. And the "forty years" were
fulfilled in David, circa 920
b.c.; for, David
reigned seven years over Judah, then thirty-three years over the
whole of combined Israel. 7[1]
yrs. over Judah + 33 yrs. over all of Israel =
40 years reign (not
"ministry"). FULFILLED in ca. 920
b.c.!
[1] Actually 7½
yrs.; see verse five below.
2 Samuel 5:3-5
3 So all the elders of Israel came to the king to Hebron;
and king David made a league with them in Hebron before the
LORD: and they anointed David king over Israel.
4 David was thirty years old when he began to
reign, and he reigned forty years.
5 In Hebron he reigned over Judah seven years and six
months: and in Jerusalem he reigned thirty and three years
over all Israel and Judah. KJV
And yes, I know about types.
But if we aren't careful, we can end up "over-typing" everything
in the Bible until it is all one big type, and nothing
fulfilled in its own! There are indeed "types" (examples,
similitude's, etc.) in the Bible, many of them, in fact;
however, not everything is a type. Some things are
fulfilled and put away into the history of the Holy Writ
(Bible). The great task then, is to determine which
is which; and it is this that causes so many
disagreements in interpretation―not the least of all in prophecy
interpretation. Your friend states:
"[because
Jesus' ministry was only some three years long]
So he
[Jesus]
came in the flesh again for 37 years to minister and
fulfill that old testament prophecy and then ascended
back to heaven."
What many do then at this point is to
identify some Bible teacher from within the last century and
state that he (that Bible teacher) fulfilled "Jesus' ministry."
Blasphemous, to say the least!
A little bit of history
on the COG (Church of God) denomination is in order right about
now. From an outside Website (we are not endorsing or
chastening this website ministry in any way―we haven't studied
their doctrine to do that. A word to the wise is
sufficient). But we enjoyed their below concise history of
the COG movement. Also observe that Herbert W. Armstrong
did indeed set himself up as a finisher of Christ's work, as we
mentioned in the above paragraph of these type false-ministries:
Below Source:
HERBERT W.
ARMSTRONG American Minister, Educator, Radio and Television
Evangelist World Wide Church of
Godhttp://www.ondoctrine.com/10armsth.htm, quoting,
The Watchman Expositor
[Note: not affiliated with our Watchmen
Bible Study Group in any way]:
World-wide Church of
God origins
QUOTE:
...NOTE
This article will reference the Worldwide
Church Of God, which was originally founded by Herbert
W. Armstrong. Since his death, the Worldwide Church Of
God has been reorganized and has discarded many of the
doctrines taught by Herbert W. Armstrong. The Worldwide
Church Of God has attempted to identify itself more
closely with traditional Christian doctrine.
HISTORICAL
BACKGROUND
"Herbert W. Armstrong was born in
1892 in Des Moines, Iowa, into a Quaker family. In
1917, Armstrong was married to Loma Dillon. In 1927
Loma Armstrong became acquainted with the teachings
of the Church of God-7th Day while they were living
in Oregon. This was Armstrong's introduction to the
Sabbatarian movement. The Church of God-7th Day
split in 1933 and Armstrong was ordained a minister
in the Church of God-7th Day which set up
headquarters in Salem, West Virginia.
In 1934, Armstrong bought radio time and began The
Radio Church of God. He also published his first
mimeographed issue of The Plain Truth
magazine. He was the minister of the COG-7th Day
church in Eugene, Oregon at that time. In 1938,
Armstrong was stripped of his COG-7th Day
ministerial license. Armstrong had been teaching
that the Jewish Feast days were binding on the
church contrary to COG-7th Day doctrine. Armstrong
retained his Eugene church and his radio ministry.
In the years during the war, Armstrong taught that
Armageddon was just around the corner. He taught
that Mussolini and later Hitler were both the
Antichrist. He made many specific false
prophecies...
In 1947, he relocated the ministry to Pasadena,
California. He began Ambassador College, a bible
school to train ministers who would raise up
churches under his leadership. In 1968, the name of
the organization was changed to The Worldwide Church
of God.
There was a split in the church in 1974, when forty
ministers and several thousand members left the
church because of doctrinal disputes and resulting
abuses.
Armstrong disfellowshipped his son, Garner Ted, in
1978. Garner Ted formed his own church, The Church
of God, International located in Tyler, Texas. By
the mid-seventies, Armstrong was proclaiming
himself God's apostle for the last days. In
1979, the state of California placed the church in
receivership under allegations of financial abuses
by church leaders. After lengthy court battles the
courts removed the church from receivership."
Herbert Armstrong died in January 1986 at the age of
94."
― The Watchmen
Expositor.
|
I would also like to
point something ominous out in your friends statements, lest we
read right over the subtlety. I refer to where she said:
"So he
[Jesus]
came in the flesh again for 37 years
to minister and fulfill that old testament prophecy and
then ascended back to heaven"
Do you
realize what she is saying? She is saying that Jesus
Christ HIMSELF returned here to the Earth and led
a ministry for 37 years (presumably in the person of her
pastor or the founder of her denomination?). Blasphemy! There are today several
denominations and splinters that believe this of their own
pastors and Bible teachers. Indeed, there were to be many
antichrists. Must I remind your friend:
Matthew
24:23-27
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is
Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false
prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders;
insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the
very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he
[Christ]
is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is
in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth
even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of
man be [evident to all the
world, NOT to just some "select" group].
KJV
Can't you see where this is leading? Wherein it is said in the
above article that "...Armstrong was proclaiming himself
God's apostle for the last days"; then, therefore, whatever
that "Bible teacher" said, is, as they say "written in
stone"―the very words of God even. However, those "Bible
teachers" that they variously refer to, have introduced much
false doctrine into their respective congregations. I, for the
life of me (!!!), cannot fathom how any Christian, having opened
and read the Good Book, could fall into some spiritually-corrupt
group that teaches that Jesus Christ came in the flesh through
their pastor/preacher or founder of their congregation!
And any man that allows this to be said (or even thought) of
himself is one bad apple, indeed. By that fruit you
shall know them, and know that they are not from God―much less
finishing Jesus' ministry!
Matthew 7:13-23
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and
broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many
there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which
leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's
clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men
gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a
corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a
corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn
down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord,
shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that
doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not
prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out
devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you:
depart from me, ye that work iniquity. KJV
And concerning the above, which may well be
her fate, I chasten your friend to be mindful of the words of
the Master, Jesus Christ:
Matthew 24:24-25
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and
false prophets, and shall shew great signs and
wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall
deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before. KJV
Regarding where your friend's church
teaches/requires that:
"Her church also requires the women at
the church to where veils or they are not following
God's commandment. I thought the veil issue for females
pertained to the fallen angels?"
As you can see, once a group starts
descending into false doctrine they take-on all sorts of bizarre
practices and traditions of men. The Veil is Christ:
Hebrews 10:19-20
19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the
holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for
us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; KJV
Paul explains more perfectly on the matter
in the below. Observe please that at the end of his
dissertation, Paul says in verse 16 that there is no
such custom in the Christian churches; so, regardless of what
was done (regarding women's head coverings) in the Old Testament
"churches" (congregations), it is no longer practiced in
Christianity.
What confuses many is
that Paul was speaking during the transition time between
the Old Covenant and the New Covenant. Remember to
"rightly divide" (2nd
Tim 2:15) as to times, places, peoples, etc.; in other words, to
"rightly divide" is to look at a Scripture in context with its
time, with whom is being spoken to/of, as to where it is taking
place, is it prophecy or history, parable or exact event, type
or antitype, etc.
2 Timothy
2:15
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of
truth. KJV
To "rightly divide" the era wherein the "veil" statements
were made, we must understand that Paul was leading them out of
Old Testament Judaic Temple worship and into New Testament
Christian worship. The woman of old wore veils; but today, in
Christ, the churches need not have them wear a veil of silk or
wool; for, they have Jesus Christ as a veil (covering, power)
over them.
Below we shall examine the "veil" Scripture (1 Corinthians
11:3-16). But first, regarding where you stated:
"...Her church also requires the women at the church to
where veils or they are not following God's
commandment. I thought the veil issue for females
pertained to the fallen angels?"
You are correct in this; and we have a short study on that very
topic on our Website that you may find informative:
Why were women specifically
warned to have the veil of Christ over them?
As we go to our "veil" Scripture, notice also as a side note
that, in verse 14 in the below, Paul touches on homosexuality
and how that if a man is tempted by the fallen angels (evil
spirits), which are all male, then he is perverted
(homosexual). In that verse 14 we see the words "have
long hair" in regards to a covering; but it doesn't mean
what it means to us today particularly; it means to dress up
their hair like women do:
( Strong's Concordance: "have
long hair" = Greek word #2863 komao (kom-ah'-o);
from [Grk. word #]2864; to wear tresses of hair:
KJV - have long hair).
It is referring to effeminized men (men being made feminine like
women; i.e., homosexual) who must therefore be protected
from the male fallen angels from sexual violation. No
doubt that with today's wanton Gay lifestyle, there shall be
many homosexuals chomping at the bit to get at those fallen
angels to be defiled by them, as they today defile themselves
with each other. Nevertheless, all this should surely be a
relief to good strait Christian men who simply prefer to wear
their hair long. :o)
But that last point is not important to our veil issue, I
just mentioned it to remove confusion. Apostle Paul is
often-times difficult to teach because he says so much, spanning
several topics, in so few words; as Apostle Peter observed: "...even
as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given
unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles,
speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard
to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable
wrest..." (2nd Pet 3:15b-16a). Nevertheless, observe the
"veil" Scripture wherein Paul likens "hair" as an analogy to a
covering, a veil of protection:
1 Corinthians 11:3-16
3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is
Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head
of Christ is God.
4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered,
dishonoureth his head.
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head
uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as
if she were shaven.
6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn:
but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let
her be covered.
7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as
he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory
of the man.
8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman
for the man.
10 For this cause ought the woman to have
power on her head because of the
[evil
(fallen)]
angels.
11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the
woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also
by the woman; but all things of God.
13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto
God uncovered?
14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man
have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for
her hair is given her for a covering.
16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have
no such custom, neither
[do the (true)]
the
churches of God. KJV
In verses 1
&
6-8 above, Paul also sets the hierarchy of: man over woman, God
(by Christ) over man. This bears greatly on the veil
issue; for the veil is a covering, a protection; and the man is
the protection of the woman and Christ is the protection of the
man (as well as the woman, but the man is charged to be over the
woman―but both of course under Christ). Consider it like a
command structure at your own workplace: the owner is the
overall boss, but he sets managers over the workers. So too is
Jesus Christ (by God) over us all, but He set man over the
woman. To understand this dual authority we need only look
at our own families: the woman is indeed over the child, as man
is over the woman; but the man is also over the child, as Christ
is over both the man and the woman. So, as the child must
obey both the woman and the man (mother and father), so too must
the woman obey both (her!) man and Christ; yet, the child is not
over the man nor the woman, neither is the woman over either the
man or Christ. Below is the hierarchy of family:
God
|
Christ
|
Man
|
Woman
|
Child
So man was to be over the woman: "Therefore
as the church is subject unto Christ, so
let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing."
(Eph 5:24). But satan changed all that in our corrupt
society through Feminism, etc. Yet so many well-meaning
Christian woman are unwittingly "closeted-Feminists."
Though they will adamantly deny it―but yet live it out in many
ways in their lives today. The average Christian woman of
today has absolutely no idea how God had instructed her to act,
or where her "place" is―and are equally shocked when they find
out; only to discover how very far they are from following God's
commands. They have been corrupted; "An
enemy hath done this" ( Mat 13:28b).
Need I really drag the International Judaics into this again?
I could, you know. They founded and lead the Feminist
and Homosexual movements for their father satan. "Ye
are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye
will do..." (Jn 8:44a).
Lust(s): Greek word
#1939 epithumia (ep-ee-thoo-mee'-ah); from
NT:1937; a longing (especially for what is forbidden): KJV -
concupiscence, desire, lust (after).
And lustful movements they are! When you boil it
down, it's all about
the sex. Feminism allows women
to sleep with whomever, whenever, without any commitment;
Homosexuality allows men (and women) to engage in perverted and
evil sexual liaisons with members of their own gender.
Bi-Sexuals are no better, and are just fooling themselves; and
shall be judged as Homosexuals and Lesbians are judged.
Bi-Sexuality is a trap from satan. Listen, just because
"you" sleep with members of the opposite sex, it does not remove
the fact that you sleep with members of your own gender―quite
often in mini-orgy fashion ("threesomes," etc.). Talk
about lustful; sex purely for the sake of sex.
Hardly godly! Many females fall into this trap in college,
etc., and are programmed from early on that "two women together
is OK." Many men encourage this as well, and all the
global International Judaic pornographers utilize it in their
pornographic movies―even in so-called "soft-porn," which of
course brings on the two aforementioned phenomenon (men pushing
for, and woman doing, Bi-Sexual acts). But it is all from
satan, though, all of this filth; and he spreads it by his
emissaries on this Earth―the international Judaics and their
"lesser brethren."
And no (!), nobody is "born gay;" Bi-Sexuals are excellent
evidence of that, as are identical twins, with identical genetic
structure―one being "strait" and the other "Gay." And God didn't make anyone Homosexual
(man-with-man sex) or Lesbian (woman-with-woman sex) ― no
more than God made anyone a Pedophile (adult-with-child
sex) or a Bestiality (human-with-animal sex)
practitioner. It's all just pure animal lust
divorced from human moral.

Are
'Gay' people
born that
way?
Did God
create
them Gay?
Help offered

Nevertheless, as I have stated, Paul is so
vast that he is difficult to teach without getting side-tracked
on side-studies (as I just did above). There is so much more in
that above Scripture (1st
Cor 11:3-16, etc.) that we haven't touched on for confusion's
sake. Nevertheless, Jesus Christ is that Veil that shall
protect them from the fallen angels to come; i.e., the
Christian women shall be safe and unravaged.
In conclusion: A woman may wear her hair
any way that she chooses in church (only that it be discrete and
becoming a Christian woman of God). And if she fancies a veil,
that is fine; but just don't do it as by command; but rather, as
by preference or style―for it is no command from God; it is
rather just another tradition of man that has crept into the
various denominations. And we know what traditions of
men do when they collide head-on with Scripture of God:
Mark 7:13
13 Making the word of God of none effect
through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many
such like things do ye. KJV
Colossians 2:8
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through
philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men,
after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
KJV
Which traditions are we to
observe and keep? The ones in God's written Word, the Bible:
2 Thessalonians 2:13-17
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you,
brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the
beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification
of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the
obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and
hold the traditions which ye have been taught,
whether by word, or our epistle.
16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our
Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us
everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good
word and work. KJV
So, anyway; your friend's church is
entertaining evil spirits unawares, adding to the Scriptures,
setting up false christs (false men claiming to do the work and
bringing the revelation of Jesus Christ); yet, as in some kind
of reverent-seeming tradition, they require their women to cover
their heads with cotton and lace veils in church. Amazing! Is
it not? "Ye blind guides, which
strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel." (Mat23:24).
Can you see how satan is slowly,
methodically, dismantling God's Christian churches through
heresies, false doctrines, schisms, and blasphemous teachings?
Did you really expect it to be any other way in the end of the
world?
And if not, then you can see how we are
nearing that end presently; for, when the church finally fails
(save for a remnant), then comes the end.
Christian women: Stay close to your
Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and find a good Christian man to
lead you and your precious children (perilous times are acoming)―for they are not your
children alone; but rather they are the children of God which He
has charged you with protecting and leading in all good ways,
not the least of all into Christ Jesus. And to the headstrong,
pushy, bossy, obstinate, disobedient, among our Christian
sisters: you shall learn the right ways instantly; for, there
shall be no Christian Feminists in the Great Tribulation. Times
of trouble tend to put women into their place quite readily
and in an instant. :o)
"You" Feminist women won't be trying to
lead when the world goes to hell rapidly during the
Tribulation, you shall revert back to your nature―a nature which
satan has trained out of you presently (by
means of the you-know-who's). So quit playing games now and get
into your place under a good Christian man. And if you can't
find one―then stay alone, sleep alone, and live alone in Christ
Jesus. And you never know, if you pray for one, He just might
send him. However, what will that good Christian man do with a
Feminist minded fence-sitting Christian woman? Or a woman who
has been had by a multitude of other men―including even the
heathen?
Christian Men: Get yourselves worthy
of being followed, and then maybe a Christian woman just might
follow you. Above all, though, men, stay yourselves on Christ;
for, you too have been given a great responsibility by God―a
responsibility that most all of us men have failed miserably to
keep. We are in charge of the women and children. How have we
lived up to that task? Ha! What children made it past the
abortion chambers are grown up godless, and our women we have
turned into whores. Yes, we (men) shall answer for that as
well.
We are all, both men and women,
messed-up. But we don't have to stay that way. The choice
is ours, and we shall judged upon it. Repentance to God in
Jesus Christ' name cleanses any and all sins that we may have
committed till now. Do repent, move forward, and change. All
things everywhere in Jesus Christ.
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On keeping the Old Testament festivals
A reader writes:
Subject: ANSWER PLEASE,
IMPORTANT!!!!!!
Nick, Greetings! Please tell me of what we are to do for
Feast of Tabernacle. Is it like in Leviticus. Tell me of the
atonement to the Lord. This is new to me. Is their a reading of
Psalms 118. Do we do as the old testament for seven days w/o
service. Such as working as nurse?? All would be appreciated, Want
to do it right, want to do God's way. Are you going? I want to but
it not looking good. So I await instructions. I try to have a good
day every day with the Lord. I ask for correction and remolding to
his way. So he might find a pleasure in his child. Am I perfect? No!
Way! but I try. All praise and glory go to him, w/o him I am
nothing. A servant in Christ, Your friend , [Xxxxxxxx]
Answer:
Hi; the Feast of Tabernacles is an Old
Testament feast that we do not need to keep. And if we visit (with
each other) during this time, it is not as in the Old Testament.
Christ became all that.
So relax, there is no wrong or right way to do
it―as there is no admonition to even do it in the first
place.
My understanding of the Feast of Tabernacles
timing today at the Shepherds Chapel is just that it is a good
"excuse" to meet and gather. We do not abide to the OT procedures,
as they would be an insult to Christ today.
Shepherds Chapel (and I do not speak for
them, nor am I affiliated with them in any way save
for fellowshipping in Christ Jesus) doesn't call this gathering:
Feast of Tabernacles; they call it rather, "Fall Fellowship,"
because it is held in the Fall. That is all there is to it.
Yes, I am going. I have gone to both yearly
events at the Chapel for the last 8-9 years.
Gathering with fellow Christians is so very
important in these evil and godless endtimes. Some day soon we will
not be able gather together―by law. Enjoy your religious freedom
today―whilst you still have it. And be good to each other―none of
us are perfect, but we all Christians know SOMEONE who is. That
SOMEONE is Jesus Christ, our Savior and Friend. And if we are on
the ball, we work for Him. And if we work for Him, then we are
necessarily under His wing of protection.
John 15:13-15
13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his
life for his friends.
14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth
not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all
things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto
you. KJV
PS: I sense (and forgive me if I am wrong) that you
are scared that "you might do something wrong" in pleasing God, or that
you will make some accidental "technical error" and mess-up. Please
don't worry, you have the Scriptures—Follow them to the best of your
ability and believe upon Jesus Christ and trust God, and He will
understand. We learn over time the Scriptures more perfectly, but in
the beginning there is much that we do not understand. God knows this
and takes it all into account. Stay in your Bible studies and things
will become clearer and clearer as time goes by. Don't be scared. God
loves you and upon repentance Jesus stepped in and took your place in
punishment for your flaws and errors and sins.
Don't be fearful when your heart is in the right place.
2 Timothy 1:7 7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of
love, and of a sound mind. KJV
Whenever
you aren't sure about something, then just pray to God in Jesus' name
asking Him to guide you, and tell Him that you really want to be doing
the right thing but you are confused on what that may be. He will help
you.
Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
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Why is International Jewry now intentionally sabotaging
itself?
A (Judaic Christian) reader writes:
Rob Reiner1
represents the worst that Judaism has to
offer, as does Abe Foxman3
and people like that. I
thought the whole Mel Gibson thing was a total
embarrassment. The only person Mel Gibson maybe owes
an apology to is the policeman he yelled at.
WBSG footnotes from reader's above mail
1
The reader is referring to the article that we recently added to
the end of the Q&A:
The Mel Gibson Set-up and his capitulation for
"the fear of the Jews" (Est 8:17, Jn 7:13, 19:38, 20:19).
The added article is entitled: "Reiner: Gibson, Come Clean on
'Passion' 2 ; Rob Reiner: Gibson Must
Acknowledge That 'Passion' Was Anti-Semitic".
2 Mel Gibson's Jesus Christ movie, The
Passion of the Christ.
3 The national director
of the Jewish ADL (Anti-Defamation League).
Answer:
Hi. I agree. It seems that "they" are almost
intentionally trying to turn world opinion against themselves. Or,
better said, an element within Jewry seems to be trying to sabotage the
whole lump.
I have been noticing that very phenomenon since the
opposition to The Passion of The Christ movie debacle. And the
extremely draconian extraditions, show trials, and imprisonments of men
who simply choose to not believe in the extent of the Holocaust really
stated opening every-day people's eyes regarding the almighty and
terrible power of the "Jews." This has the opposite effect if your
intention was to secretly take control of the world. Why expose
themselves now? Could it be that they are confident that they cannot be
stopped; or, are they intentionally sabotaging their own plan?
Also, many once-suppressed books (from last century
and beyond) dealing with sensitive information AGAINST "Jews" and Judaic
exposés are suddenly popping up as available reprints on main-stream
booksellers, like Amazon.com. The same Amazon.com that four years ago
wouldn't sell the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion
without a heavy disclaimer!
And these once-lost books are only $15.00 dollars or
so—whereas two years ago you'd have been glad to pay $50.00-$100.00
just for the chance of getting a worn-out copy of the book, used. And
you wouldn't find it.
And the way that they managed the war in Lebanon
could only be interpreted as willful "make the world hate Israel." For,
that is what it is doing. And then bombing the clearly marked UN
observation camp, even after giving reassurances that it would be
safe?!?!?!?!?!? Nice move, intentionally killing a
Chinese-national UN observer! China doesn't like to forget.
How do you think the world will react if and when
Israel bombs Iran's nuclear enrichment facilities, spewing radioactive
waste & dust across Eastern Iran and a whole Southern swath of mother
Russia on into western China (not to mention Afghanistan)? Something that many agree they must do if they want
to ensure their survival in the Mideast.
Something is up. This is the same type of covert
activity used by the International Judaics PRIOR to
WWII. "They" declared (economic)
war on Germany [Judea
Declares War On Germany―in 1933], deeply hurting her
financially in a time of pre-war, on into a time of war; turned Hitler
against the Jews; denied any country to take the Jewish refugees that
Hitler wanted out of his country and the Reich-controlled areas of
Europe―the rest is history (albeit skewed "history."
Keep your eyes open and your head down.
Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
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Millennium/no second chance;
and the great importance of identifying chronology to understand
Scriptural flow
A reader writes:
Hi Nick,
I just
read, for the 2nd time, your answer regarding the "second
chance" doctrine. I was kind of shocked to learn there is
nothing biblical that says the ones that will reign with
Christ 1000 years will be priests preaching to spirit
people. I guess you can say my eyes were first opened by
Pastor Murray and so I did study with him and therfore
learned about what happens in the Millennium (what he
teaches). I was so surprised to learn that Satan is going
to get all those souls to encompass the ones that are
reigning with Christ and try to attack them. Where do those
souls come from that encompass Christ since the Great White
Throne Judgment doesn’t occur until Rev. 20:11?
Rev 20:11 And
I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from
whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was
found no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand
before God; and the books were opened: and another book was
opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were
judged out of those things which were written in the books,
according to their works.
When I
read your answer the 2nd time and just cleared my mind of
all past learning - it was clear to "see." Before, I never
saw how Christ and the others were being encompassed and
attacked! Where do they come from? There are still
questions I have and I guess I am trying to understand what
happens when Satan comes down to earth on the 6th trump.
Just yesterday I heard a pastor on TV say Christ could come
at any moment. Of course I don't believe this since I know
all the things Christ said HAD to happen would happen BEFORE
Christ comes for His Second Advent. I believe that Satan
will sit on the mount of Olivet and want to be God and be
worshipped as God - isn't that what Christ said? Christ said
that He would come AFTER satan so satan would have to do
what Christ said he would and that is sit on the mount and
act like God so people will worship him. Isn't that why the rapturist would worship him (satan) and therefore worship
the wrong one since they are "waiting for any moment for
Christ to come?"
2Th 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not
come], except there come a falling away first, and that man
of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
I believe
we are supposed to wait for Christ to come and that is one
of the signs Christ said would happen - that the son of
perdition would sit on mount to act like he is God and be
worshipped as God. I would know when I see this with my own
flesh eyes that its Satan not Christ because I know that
when Christ comes we all basically die and change from our
flesh bodies to our spirit bodies. Then like scripture
says, Christ comes AFTER satan and that is when they realize
that they have been worshiping satan. Is that right?
So here I
am - back to the second chance answer you gave and I now
understand and believe. I believe it because the scripture
supports it and I could see with my eyes what the God says
in His Word. In Rev. 20:4 is it talking ONLY about the
souls that overcame AFTER the Antichrist (Satan) came at the
6th trump?
Revelation 20:4
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment
was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that
were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and
for the word of God, and which had not
worshipped the beast, neither his image,
neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in
their hands; and they lived and reigned
with Christ a thousand years.
What I
see in Rev. 20:4 is that it doesn't include the people that
died like Lazarus and went straight up to God and didn't go
on the other side like the rich man. It looks like its ONLY
talking about the souls that died after the 6th Trump was
blown and Satan (AntiChrist) appeared. In Rev. 20:5 who are
"the rest of the dead" that its talking about? Are they the
ones like Lazarus who made it to heaven when they died -
before Christ came?
Rev. 20:5
But
the
rest of the dead
lived not again
until
the thousand years
were finished.
This is the first resurrection.
Now my
next question is - who are
those
that encompased Christ "..to gather
them
to battle…"? Since the Great White Throne Judgement hasn't
happened yet, who are those that satan gathers from Gog and
Magog - where is that place?
7
And
when
the thousand years
are expired,
Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the
four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog,
to gather them
together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the
sea.
9 And they
went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp
of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came
down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. KJV
Guess
that's enough questions for now!
Have a
wonderful blessed day. I look forward to your reply as it
always learn so much from you and God's Word.
In His
Service,
[Xxxxxxxx]
Second postscript
E-mail, same reader:
I just
was rereading Genesis the beginning and I guess I wasn't
paying attention before but I just realized the ANIMALS were
made the same day as MALE/FEMALE. Thanks for telling us to
read the Bible ourselves cause I don't know how many times I
read Gen 1 and thought the Animals were the 5th day when it
was not that way. On the Fifth day God created the Whales,
fish and things of the "sea" and birds (fowl). Then on the
Sixth day he created the animals - all the beast of the
earth - THEN he created male/female and that (animals/man)
were both created on the 6th day. I thought only man was
created on the 6th day.
Adam was
formed from the clay on the 8th day and then the domestic
animals were created after the "man" Adam - the Eve was
created from Adam's DNA after the domestic animals. Thanks!
I finally got it.
1st day -
Day and Night created - this to me is the Lord to me cause I
am a child of the Day not Night. Besides that I know its
good that God made in the world cause the
sun/moon/stars/planets were made on the 4th day. Also, I
noticed that the planets were first made, then sun & moon
then the stars!
2nd day -
God made the firmament to separate the waters - guess this
means there is water above some place? It clearly says he
put the firmament - heaven between the waters to separate
them.
3rd day -
Said the Waters need to be gathered into one place and let
the dry land show. Called the land "earth" the water "seas"
- told the earth to bring up grass, herb yeilding seed,
fruit trees whose seeds in itself.
4th day -
Let there be light in the firmament to divide the day and
night, for signs, seasons, days and years and for light (is
this the planets?) - He then created the sun/moon and stars.
5th day -
told the waters to bring forth whales and every moving
creature that has life & fowl to fly in the open firmament
of heaven.
6th day -
created every living creature on the earth, cattle, creeping
thing of the earth - THEN he created male/female in his
likeness and told them to be fruitful and multipy.
7th day
- RESTED
8th day -
Formed Adam in the Garden of Eden - alone. Later made the
domestic animals - then created Eve from Adam's DNA.
Got it!
[Xxxxxx]
Answer:
Hi Xxxxx. Yes, the chronological order reveals
much.
From your earlier points, you asked:
"What I see in Rev. 20:4 is that it
doesn't include the people that died like Lazarus and
went straight up to God and didn't go on the other side
like the rich man. It looks like its ONLY talking about
the souls that died after the 6th Trump was blown and
Satan (AntiChrist) appeared. In Rev. 20:5 who are "the
rest of the dead" that its talking about? Are they the
ones like Lazarus who made it to heaven when they died -
before Christ came?"
The side that Lazarus went to and the side
that the rich man went to were in the same place. They were, as
you recall from Scripture, separated by a great divide. And one
could see over to the other side. So, they were both in the
same location.
The "rest of the dead" are all others other
than those resurrected in Rev 20:4. In other words, everybody
else, both good and bad.
I personally believe that there are more
than two resurrections, as Scripture says "first" resurrection,
but never says "second" resurrection. It appears that some are
resurrected to be led by satan, and some are resurrected at the
Judgement Day when hell gave up its dead. That's at least two,
and then we have to add in the first resurrection, making at
least three.
Once again I must stress that the modern-day
use of the word "resurrection" causes confusion in this
Scripture. To our modern church thinking, "resurrection" means
"made it, saved in Heaven forever." However, that is not the
case at all. Many shall be resurrected only to be cast into the
Lake of Fire.
Resurrect means to live again,
nothing more.
Also causing much confusion is the word
"hell." "Hell" in the Bible means
the grave.
The Lake of Fire is what we commonly think hell to be—the final
depository of the damned. You will notice in Rev 20, after
Judgement Day, hell itself is also cast into the Lake of
Fire. So, logically, hell can't be the final end; for, the
Lake of Fire comes after.
Revelation 20:12-15
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the
books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of
life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were
written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell
delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every
man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is
the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast
into the lake of fire. KJV
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Surgical birth control
A reader writes:
hi, my name is [Xxxxx] and me and my DH
["Dear Husband"?] [Xxxxx] have been
married as of this coming
[Xxxxx] will be 15 years.
We have
[X] beautiful children
[X] boys and
[X] girl ..I had a tubal ligation done during my c-section with having my
last child and now after 2 years i know it was God that
has put it on my heart to have it corrected so now i'm
on a waiting list to have a Tubal Reversal done so that
i can put my fertility back into Gods hands and not in
mine...well my DH
[Xxxxx] says that he doesn't want anymore
children i have prayed that God change his mind well
what i'm looking for is where it really says in the
bible about letting god be incontrol of your family and
not us...i'm trying really hard to do what god has
asked me to do but my DH wants to see it in writing from
the bible about it he thinks its not really true just
because it says be fruitful and mutiliply he thinks that
we have been fruitful and mutilitplied we have gotten
into arguements over this so i'm asking for your help
with this...thanks for everything...god bless
Hello Mrs.
[Xxxxx]. Hmmm. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems
to me that
[Xxxxx] wants to hear the pitter-patter of
little feet running around the house again.
I see several problems regarding your current situation.
But first let's go the Scriptures. There is nothing in the
Bible against contraception. The only instance that some would
offer is in Genesis 38. But a careful read, paying close
attention to context, reveals that Onan was punished for not
raising up seed to his deceased brother, NOT for practicing the
withdrawal method of birth control.
A little history on "raising up seed"
In the Old Testament there was an edict that if a married
man died before impregnating his wife, then his brother, the
next oldest brother, was to impregnate his deceased brother's
wife so that she would bare (hopefully) a son and thus the dead
brother would have heirs and ever a name in Israel. We shall be
examining this from the book of Genesis, but the book of Ruth
also occupies itself around this concept somewhat.
Bearing that in mind, observe below E'rs (the deceased man)
brother Onan as he has sex with Er's widow (as by Biblical
formula); HOWEVER, he withdraws from her before completing the
act of impregnating her. In other words, he used her sexually,
then pulled out of her before he "completed" the act, and spew
his seed (semen) on the ground instead of in Tamar. God killed
Onan for this act; because, by not getting her pregnant (or, by
purposely not impregnating her, better stated), which was the
only reason that he was allowed sexual access to the widow, he
used her like a whore. Now, this woman was in the seedline of
Jesus Christ. It is unnecessary to further explain why God
became so angry with Onan for this. Observe the Scripture
below: (PS: I just love these holier-than-thou church
biddies that act like there isn't sex in the Bible. There are
many mentions of sex in the Bible, after all, it is a chronicle
of a seedline, Adam to Christ; the first 'birth' being
non-sexual (Adam) and the last birth being non-sexual (Jesus),
but everywhere in between these children were sired the old
fashioned way.) You get the point).
That point being that sex within a committed relationship is
not a sin, it is a duty, albeit an enjoyable one (today, by
custom we marry in a church and receive a legal document of
marriage from the state), but in the beginning they "married"
in the tent, and became man and wife at the moment of
sexual intercourse (witnessed by Isaac and Rebekah's marriage: "And
Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and took
Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac
was comforted after his mother's death." Gen 24:67; but
by Jesus' time, as witnessed by the events surrounding
His first miracle of turning water to wine at the wedding feast
of Cana (John 2), we see that Israel had evolved a structured
wedding ceremony, replete with an engagement period, as
witnessed by Mother Mary and Joseph's engagement (betrothal),
seen in: " Now the birth of Jesus Christ
was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to
Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of
the Holy Ghost. . . . And
[Joseph]
knew her not [no intercourse] till
[until after] she had brought forth
her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS." (Mat
1:18-25). Anyway, observe the Scripture, and notice that it is
not in any intended to be an admonition against birth control
generally:
Genesis 38:6-10
6 And Judah took a wife for Er his
firstborn, whose name was Tamar.
7 And Er, Judah's firstborn, was
wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him.
8 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto
thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy
brother.
9 And Onan knew that the seed should
not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his
brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that
he should give seed to his brother.
10 And the thing which he did
displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also. KJV
Surgical sterilization as birth control
Another matter that touches on your situation is that of
surgery; in your case sterilization surgery. The Bible is mute
on surgery and advanced medical developments. Certainly God
foresaw that we would make advances in medicine and surgery, and
had He found any problem with it, He would have mentioned the
matter in Scripture. He did not mention surgery in the Bible.
Therefore, it cannot be said that surgery is against God or His
Bible.
Regarding sterilization. This is a slightly different
matter. This form of "surgery" is mentioned in the
Bible, but not in regards to females. I speak of the eunuchs
(castrated males). Castration was used in several situations;
one being, the harem guards and servants. The personal male
attendants of the king's harem and wives was always a castrated
male (a eunuch). Castration of a male interferes with his sex
drive; thus, the king could at once have a strong guard for his
females (wives, concubines, daughters, etc.) but also have one
that he could trust.
I will give two instances from the Bible regarding the
making of a eunuch (but please understand that this has nothing
to do with you, as you are a female). In the first Scripture
below we see that eunuchs could not enter into the congregation
of the Lord, because they were defiled by their castration. In
the second, in the New Testament, we shall see that the term
"eunuch" is used more broadly to include those who abstain from
sex, but are not castrated, and are not held in low esteem.
Observe the first (from the Old Testament):
Deuteronomy 23:1-3
23:1 He that is wounded in the stones
[testicles], or hath
his privy member [penis] cut
off, shall not enter into the congregation
of the LORD.
2 A bastard shall not enter into the
congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall
he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
3 An Ammonite or Moabite shall not
enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth
generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the
LORD for ever: KJV
But, I hasten to add, that God had
mercy later-on in Scripture for these eunuchs, and they were
allowed in through obedience to God's laws and statuettes (I
mention this so that men who have already sterilized
themselves don't get nervous):
Isaiah 56:1-8 56:1
Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye
judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near
to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man that
doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on
it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and
keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
3 Neither let the son of the
stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD,
speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me
from his people: neither let the eunuch say,
Behold, I am a dry tree.
4 For thus saith the
LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and
choose the things that please me, and take hold of
my covenant;
5 Even unto them will I
[God]
give in mine house and within my walls a place and a
name better than of sons and of daughters:
I [God]
will give them an everlasting name, that
shall not be cut off.
6 Also the sons of the
stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve
him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his
servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from
polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
7 Even them will I bring to my
holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of
prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices
shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house
shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
8 The Lord GOD which gathereth
the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather
others to him, beside those that are gathered unto
him. KJV
And the second, from the New Testament:
Matthew 19:7-12
7 They say unto him, Why did Moses
then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to
put her away?
8 He saith unto them, Moses
because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to
put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not
so.
9 And I say unto you, Whosoever
shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication,
and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso
marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
10 His disciples say unto him, If
the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good
to marry.
11 But he said unto them,
All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it
is given.
12 For there are some
eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb
[born sterile, impotent]:
and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of
men [castrated]:
and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs
for the kingdom of heaven's sake
[willful abstainers, like apostle
Paul was]. He that is able to receive it,
let him receive it. KJV
Once again, none of this applies to you, since you are a
female. Females are under the strict rule of no sex except with
their husbands. Period. How are "today's women" measuring up?
Satan's minions have deluded them. But I'm not going to long be
talking about the International Judaics in this article. I
speak too much about them as it is. Just know and understand
and observe that they are both your enemy, Jesus Christ's enemy,
and the enemy of God, and are the foundation of every vile
practice and movement in the world. Enough said. Satan has his
own cadre—just as God and Christ has His own cadre of faithful
servants. This shall all flesh-out in the Tribulation when satan's defiles God's.
Regarding eunuchs and the Kingdom of God
Acts 8:36-38
36 And as they went on their way, they
came unto a certain water: and the eunuch
said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be
baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest
with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said,
I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to
stand still: and they went down both into the water, both
Philip and the eunuch ; and he baptized him.
KJV
So we see that sterilized males today are
not damned. Would I personally get sterilized? No, I
am a male, and I know from Scripture that a man's seed is a very
important part of himself. Would I let me wife (if I were
married) get sterilized? I would leave that up to her, I
wouldn't try to interfere one way or the other. But either
way, I would want her to be on some (non-abortive) contraception
until and unless I wanted children by her.
These matters are personal family decisions. But the Bible
does not forbid the practice. Of course, it is one thing for a
married woman to practice contraception with her
husband because they don't want any more kids, and it is a far
another thing for a single woman to do it so that she can
wantonly screw around with all these different guys and not bear
any consequences (children). That is a Judgement that God shall
make on Judgement Day. I am not judging women, but the Bible
does speak very lowly of whores. Much worse of adulteresses.
But forgiveness is always possible for the Christian. Do repent
if you feel that you have sinned and let-down God. I will speak
no more on the matter. You have the Scriptures, therein is your
answer.
Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
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A reader objects to statement that
"smoking dope" and masturbating is not a sin in the Bible
A (new?) reader writes:
anyone who claims to be a teacher of GODS word does NOT
tell people its okay to masterbate or to smoke dope.
thankyou.
Hello. I know that you meant this well, and that you feel that
I am incorrect; and that you are just doing your Christian duty
to correct a brother whom you think to be in error. It is in
that spirit that I accept your above criticism. May I point out
that I didn't say that it was "okay," I said that it wasn't a
sin. There is a difference, you
know? Actually, "smoking dope" is against the law, and as Paul
stated in Romans 13, we are to obey the laws of our land. So,
that while it isn't a sin, per se, it is still wrong.
And just for the record, I do not smoke dope or take any illegal
drugs.
So, since you have taken it upon yourself to enter this
fray, would you be so kind as to help our readers by producing
the pertinent Scriptures from God's Bible that state that either
smoking dope or masturbating is a sin?
Thank you, you will helping so many out with your
illumination of these subjects.
I shall date the time of this request of mine for Biblical
documentation from you, should you tarry, or as I suspect, come
up empty. Sent to you September 8th, 2006, early PM hours.
[No answer as of Oct 15, 2006]
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A Catholic writes critical
A
(one-time???) Catholic reader writes:
Subject: Hail
Mary, Full of Grace
You poor deluded litle
Protestants.
Answer:
Hello. First let me state that I believe that Catholics are
Christians, they believe upon Jesus Christ and fill the
"minimum requirement" of the below (for want of a better way to
term it).
John 3:16-18
16 For God so loved the world, that he
gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever
believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting
life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the
world to condemn the world; but that the world through him
might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not
condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already,
because he hath not believed in the name of the only
begotten Son of God. KJV
As I perceive that
you happened upon us here via Search Engine or perhaps by
a reference from another Christian on some Internet Talk Forum,
please allow me to state aforehand by way of introduction that
we here at Watchmen Bible Study Group are a
non-denominational Bible believing Christian Bible study group.
And while I cannot speak for all here who are members of WBSG,
I can say that that is how I set it up. And one simply
becomes a member of WBSG when he/she reads here regularly
and signs up for the e-mail alerts (mailing
list).
Other than that we have no
common protocol or traditions. We are not a sect or a
denomination or anything else like that—certainly not a cult or
subgroup—we are just a Christian Bible study group. A
gathering of Christians who opened the Book and believed God,
who believe the Bible to be His written Word, and believe upon
the Holy Son of God, Jesus Christ, as our Savior. And
through the Holy Spirit of God we endeavor to learn His Word as
He meant it. Many members here have churches in their
hometowns that they regularly attend. And that is fine and
that is good. I am not against church, I believe that
Christians ought to fellowship and praise God together, I am not
against any Christian church that tries her best at fidelity to
Scripture. Most here are
what you would consider "of the 'Protestant' branches of
Christianity" (where three divisions are recognized as the
Catholic, the Orthodox, and the Protestant
branches of Christianity). Many who study here have
been disillusioned by organized Christian denominations and have
determined to go right to the source—God's written Word, the
Bible, for their answers and their fellowship. After all,
every Christian denomination started at the Bible, but then most
added-on their own traditions, quite apart from anything found
between the covers of any Bible. We have Catholics who
visit here, and even Jews and some Muslims as well. How
long they stay, I cannot tell. I hope that they do not
leave, but rather that they become Christians. My name is
Nick Goggin, by the way; and I am the editor of Watchmen
Bible Study Group; I write the Bible studies that you read
here and answer the questions that come in. This Bible
study group is not affiliated with any denomination, we are
affiliated with the Bible alone. And where churches agree
with that Holy Bible, we too shall agree with those several
churches; however, where any church strays from that written
Word of God, we too must part company with them, in love, but
never saltless nor lukewarm. It is because of that final
line that we ruffle a few feathers along the way, like we
undoubtedly have ruffled yours. What I am trying to say is
that we are not your enemy, nor do we hate you.
Now I know that you wrote the above mail to us because you are
angry at us. So I shall be the bigger man and not return anger
to your anger; preferring rather, to remember our Lord's words
spoken through that wisest of all men, king Solomon: "A
soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up
anger." (Prov 15:1). I will instead speak to you of the
Scriptures, in brotherly love. Nevertheless, while I shall be
civil with you, I will not water-down the Gospel to win your
friendship. To do so would endanger me in the Lord, to draw His
ire. I will not be that for anybody.
And while I know that some non-Catholic Christians can be
quite harsh to Catholic Christians, we should both remember that
at the end of the day we are brethren in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Some non-Catholic Christians (loosely lumped together and
all called "protestants" by Catholics) think that the Catholic
Church is "MYSTERY,
BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE
EARTH." from
Rev 17:5. They feel that the Roman Catholic Church is the beast
of Rev 13:1 — "And I stood upon the sand
of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven
heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his
heads the name of blasphemy." But that is because they do not understand the
prophecies. Catholic Christians likewise think that
"Protestants" (all non-Catholics who yet believe in Jesus
Christ) are back-slidden and fallen away from what they
(Catholics) think is the only true church of Jesus Christ
(Catholicism). But that is because they do not understand the
Scriptures; and this because their church does not encourage the
reading of the Bible.
I have the right to speak of the Catholic Church and her
teachings, and I may speak with authority on the matter; for, aside
from much study and research on the Catholic Church and her
doctrine, I was also myself "born a Catholic," or, born into a Catholic
family, better stated. In my youth I went exclusively
to Catholic churches, I obediently went to Catholic Catechism
classes, was sprinkled with water as an infant into the Catholic
Baptism (later I was Baptized into Jesus Christ, by my own
choice and preference—fully immersed by a non-denominational
Christian), I was "Confirmed" in the Catholic church, I went to
the Catholic Confession and confessed my sins to the man in the
booth, I lit candles for the dead, I stood in awe and reverence
as the priest wafted incense to statues of Mother Mary which men
bore upon their shoulders as they carried "her" up the isle of
the church, I watched the women cast roses at the feet of
statues of Mother Mary, I dipped "holy water" with my finger and
marked my forehead and heart and right & left shoulder, I bowed
and kneeled towards the Altar at the head of the church before I
took my seat in the pew, I called the priests "Father," I
took the Catholic Communion wafer that they said was the
LITERAL flesh of Jesus Christ, at weddings I drank of
the Catholic Communion Cup which they told me had BECOME
the LITERAL blood of Jesus Christ—I was for all
intents and purposes a Catholic.
I was a Catholic—that is—until I read my Bible and discovered
that so much of what I had been taught to do by the Catholic
institution was an affront to God, and was a grave sin. I
was shocked! I did not realize what wrong I was doing—I
had been deceived from my youth by the hierarchy of the Roman
Catholic Church. All those things I am now ashamed of
doing; and now, knowing the magnitude of the error, I even
shudder to think that I had once done them. Nevertheless,
I know that I have been forgiven of it by Jesus Christ, because
I have repented to God in Jesus' name for having been involved
in those idolatrous practices. And any way you slice it—it
was and is overt and blatant idolatry! Let all Catholic lips be
still, let no Catholic dare stand up and deny it. Lest
their sin go from the unwitting category to the act of willingly
and defiantly sinning in their own very houses of worship.
But
even with all of that I was probably what you
Catholics call "not a good Catholic"; i.e., I did not
follow the edicts and teachings of the Catholic Church
Universal. Sure I did the above things, but I did them as
protocol, mechanically; or rather, I did them because
that is what everybody else in the church was doing. I did not recognize the primacy of the Pope; I did
not attribute to Mother Mary extra-human attributes; I did not
pray to dead men made saints by other men; and I never felt
right confessing my sins to a man who was just as fallible as I, and
who could never take away my sins (the priest). And I
will unapologetically state that I know more about the Roman
Catholic Church and her doctrines and dogmas than do most
practicing devote Catholics—and certainly more about the Bible
than bishops and popes. I say this not to boast; but
rather, to set my credentials as we move into this subject.
Should any choose to challenge my knowledge of this subject—let
him challenge me here and now.
Also, living in Chicago I have the advantage of knowing many
Catholics personally (family members, even); I can drive one
mile in a circle here and pass by probably ten or so Catholic
churches and institutions, as Chicago is a very large center for the Catholic
faith. In fact, here in Chicago we have a subdivision that
we use, kind of like in other cities where they would use
neighborhoods or communities—that being "parishes."
Chicago is informally divided up into areas called "parishes,"
that meaning the boundaries of the nearest Catholic church.
We have here in Chicago a very substantial Hispanic and Polish
population, both of whom are traditionally very Catholic
(though, of late, the Pentecostal and Mormon (LDS)
churches are making some headway into conversion of the Hispanic
populous). Not to mention our Irish, German,
and other European communities which are also substantially
Catholic here in Chicago. Many Koreans and other Asiatic
groups living here also have a large Catholic contingent.
Chicago truly is a "melting pot" of peoples, and her predominant
church is the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church in
Chicago is very large, popular, and powerful. But many of
my Christian brethren living in other parts of the country,
particularly in the "Bible Belt," and maybe in the Pacific
Northwest, have met few Catholics, and know little of their
beliefs.
Regarding Mother Mary, our Lord's blessed mother: I respect
her totally, she was undoubtedly a woman of the finest
character. She is the mother of my Lord Jesus Christ and a chosen
daughter of our Heavenly Father, the Lord God Almighty. I know
from Scripture that she was ever to hold a place of high regard:
Luke 1:39-56
39 And Mary arose in those days, and
went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda;
40 And entered into the house of
Zacharias, and saluted Elisabeth.
41 And it came to pass, that, when
Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe
[John the Baptist] leaped in
her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
42 And she spake out with a loud
voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
43 And whence is this to me, that the
mother of my Lord should come to me?
44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of
thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe
[John the Baptist]
leaped in my
womb for joy.
45 And blessed is she that believed:
for there shall be a performance of those things which were
told her from the Lord.
46 And Mary said, My soul doth
magnify the Lord,
47 And my spirit hath rejoiced
in God my Saviour.
48 For he hath regarded the
low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from
henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
49 For he that is mighty hath done to
me great things; and holy is his name.
50 And his mercy is on them that fear
him from generation to generation.
51 He hath shewed strength with his
arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their
hearts.
52 He hath put down the mighty from
their seats, and exalted them of low degree.
53 He hath filled the hungry with good
things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.
54 He hath holpen his servant Israel,
in remembrance of his mercy;
55 As he spake to our fathers, to
Abraham, and to his seed for ever.
56 And Mary abode with her about three
months, and returned to her own house. KJV
But Catholics take this too far, they inadvertently
disrespect Mother Mary by making a sort of idol out of her—they
shame her memory by doing that with her those things which they ought
not do. Surely she is in Heaven weeping at what the Catholic
Church (and the Orthodox Churches) have done with her. Poor
Mary—after enduring all the emotional pain of seeing the Fruit
of her womb hated and crucified so that all Christians may live
eternal with God; then to see those same Christians make an idol
and a false god out of her memory—poor Mary.
I know that the
"everyday average Catholic" in the pew does
not mean to do this, and that they would be the first to deny
that they "worship" Mother Mary. But they do worship her,
all the while saying that they do not. And as Apostle Peter understood the
Israelites of his time, because he was one of them, and as he
understood the Pharisees and Sanhedrin who ruled over them
religiously; may I too understand the
Christians of
my time, because I too am one of them, and may we also
understand the Catholic Church and the Vatican who rules over so
many Christians; and then may we be
permitted to say along with Peter: "And now, brethren, I
wot [know] that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers."
(Acts 3:17).
I also know that the leadership of the Catholic Church used
Mother Mary to subject the people, to heel them to the Catholic
Church by supposedly "owning her" and her memory. Dispensing
also Heaven as though they owned it as well. And all the other
things that she does in error and in direct conflict with the
Holy Scriptures. The listing of
which would fill not a small book.
So Catholic brethren out there reading this, consider the above my confession, my
testimony, my mia culpa; and now after having introduced
myself and hopefully allaying any fears that you might have of
me being "anti-Catholic" or a "Catholic hater," or—God forbid—a
disrespector of Mother Mary (!!!), may we proceed to the
Scriptures of the Holy Bible which I know that you trust, and
that I know that you will be humbled by, and would have been
changed by had you only have been shown them? And I will
do something special here for you, along with publishing the
Scriptures in the trusted King James version Bible1,
I shall also, in parallel fashion, post the exact same
Scriptures from a common modern day "Catholic Bible." I shall be
supply Scripture from the widely used (by modern Catholics)
New
American Standard Bible version.
Footnote:
1
For why I refer to the King
James Bible version as the "trusted King
James Bible," see our:
Adulterations in the Newer Bible Versions (NIV, NASB...);
Proof
that the King James Bible (KJV) is the True Word of God.
I know that we are to respect Mother Mary. And that she is
blessed of God forever:
King James version
Bible |
New American Standard
Bible version |
Luke 1:48
48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his
handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations
shall call me blessed. KJV |
Luke 1:48
48 "For He has had regard for the humble state of His
bondslave;
For behold, from this time on all generations will count
me blessed. NASB |
But the Catholics go so far as to assign to her supernatural
attributes. They say that she can aid in the forgiving of
sin, they say that she can intercede miraculously, and they say
that she lived her whole life without committing even one sin.
Which is something that Jesus Christ alone accomplished, I would
add. But I know from God's Word that all of mankind sins,
even the best of them:
King James version
Bible |
New American Standard
Bible version |
Romans 3:23
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of
God; KJV
1
John 1:8-10
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves,
and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to
forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all
unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned , we make him a
liar, and his word is not in us. KJV |
Romans 3:22-23
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the
glory of God, NASB
1 John 1:8-10
8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving
ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we
confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to
forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all
unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not
sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
NASB |
Catholics rear-up statues and images of Mother Mary and those
that they refer to as "saints." And they kneel before
these images and icons. They bow to them, they pray to
them, they reverence them as though they were some holy object
from Heaven. But I know that God forbids any such
activity. Below is the Second Commandment of the Ten
Commandments (observe the subtle [highlighted] change in the
Catholic Bible which "allows" them to bow down to these things
all the while claiming not to worship it):
King James version
Bible |
New American Standard
Bible version |
Exodus 20:4-6
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any
likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that
is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under
the earth:
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them,
nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,
visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children
unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate
me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me,
and keep my commandments. KJV |
Exodus 20:4-6
4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol, or
any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth
beneath or in the water under the earth. 5 You
shall not worship them or serve them; for
I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the
iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third
and the fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6
but showing lovingkindness to thousands, to those who
love Me and keep My commandments. NASB
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Catholics pray to the dead, they pray to dead "saints" and to the
deceased Mother Mary. They even save the bones and hair of
these dead "saints" (called Relics) and place them in
glass cases and pray to them in their churches. But God
said that we are not to consort with the dead:
King James version
Bible |
American Standard
Bible version |
Deuteronomy 18:10-12
10 There shall not be found among you any one that
maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire,
or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an
enchanter, or a witch,
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits,
or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto
the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy
God doth drive them out from before thee. KJV |
Deuteronomy 18:10-12
10 There shall not be found among you anyone who
makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one
who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or
one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or
one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist,
or one who calls up the dead. 12 For
whoever does these things is detestable to the LORD; and
because of these detestable things the LORD your God
will drive them out before you. NASB |
Now, Catholics will say "we aren't 'calling them up,' we are
just talking to these dead people, and asking them to intercede
for us." The irony is obvious. And regarding
"intercession," the Catholics say that Mother Mary and the other
dead "saints" can intercede for them. For instance, you
have the dead "Saint Jude" who Catholics call "the patron saint
of lost causes." Below is a Catholic Novena to their
Saint Jude:
Novena to Saint Jude
To Saint Jude, Holy Saint Jude,
Apostle and Martyr, great in virtue and rich in
miracles, near kinsman of Jesus Christ, faithful
intercessor of all who invoke your special patronage
in time of need. To you I have
recourse from the depths of my heart and humbly beg to
whom God has given such great power to come to my
assistance. Help me in my present and urgent
petition, in return I promise to make your name known
and cause you to be invoked. Saint Jude pray for
us and all who invoke your aid. Amen.
Say 3 Our Father's, 3 Hail Mary's and 3
Glory Be's. —
Source:
http://www.catholic-forum.com/SAINTS/novena09.htm
Below is a prayer that Catholic pray to the
deceased mother Mary asking her for intercession:
Hail
Mary (Ave Maria)
Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed
art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy
womb, Jesus. Holy Mary,
Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now, and
in the hour of our death.
Amen.
— Source:
http://www.catholic-forum.com/SAINTS/pray0033.htm
But the Holy Bible speaks
quite differently, which is why till a couple of hundred years
ago the Bible itself was on the Index Of Forbidden Books
in the Catholic Church:
1 Timothy
2:5
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between
God and men, the man Christ Jesus; KJV
The Catholic Catechism (the official teachings of the Catholic
Church) states the below blasphemy about Mother Mary:
Catechism of the Catholic Church
#969
"This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace
continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she
loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained
without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal
fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven
she did not lay aside this saving office
but by her manifold intercession
continues to bring us the gifts of
eternal salvation. . . . Therefore the Blessed
Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of
Advocate, Helper,
Benefactress, and Mediatrix."
―
Source: The Catechism of the Catholic Church
[electronic version of the book]. (Official permission
by the Catholic Church of this text version granted by
Amministrazione Del Patrimonio Della Sede Apostolica,
case number 130389.) Catechism #969 source:
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/969.htm
Further comment is superlative. And what about the
incense wafting that we see the Catholic priests doing to the
icons (idols) of Mother Mary during Mass?
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PICTURE: Pope John
Paul II offering incense from an incense burner to a graven
image of the Mother Mary (top right of picture), the Catholic
'Queen of Heaven', in direct violation of Almighty
God's Word in the book of Jeremiah (see Scriptures below). Photo
taken on May 13th 1991, as the Pope was thanking 'Our Lady of
Fatima' (Mother Mary) for saving his life on the occasion of the
tenth anniversary of the assassination attempt upon him.
— Source;
https://watchman.news/watchman-bs-site-arcv/mary.htm |
PICTURE: A Catholic Cardinal offers incense
from an Incense Burner to a statue (image) of a Saint. But God's
Word forbids any such activity.
Deut 4:16
16 Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven
image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or
female (KJV)
Hosea 11:2
2 As they called them, so they went from them: they sacrificed
unto Baalim, and burned incense to graven images.
(KJV)
— Source;
https://watchman.news/watchman-bs-site-arcv/mary.htm |
Notice how the Catholic's Bible corrupts the text to
allow for their incense practices:
King James version
Bible |
American Standard
Bible version |
Jeremiah
44:25-29
25 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, saying; Ye
and your wives have both spoken with your mouths, and fulfilled
with your hand, saying, We will surely perform our vows that we
have vowed, to burn incense to the queen of heaven,
and to pour out drink offerings unto her: ye will surely
accomplish your vows, and surely perform your vows.
26 Therefore hear ye the word of the LORD, all Judah that dwell
in the land of Egypt; Behold, I have sworn by my great name,
saith the LORD, that my name shall no more be named in the mouth
of any man of Judah in all the land of Egypt, saying, The Lord
GOD liveth.
27 Behold, I will watch over them for evil, and not for good:
and all the men of Judah that are in the land of Egypt shall be
consumed by the sword and by the famine, until there be an end
of them.
28 Yet a small number that escape the sword shall return out of
the land of Egypt into the land of Judah, and all the remnant of
Judah, that are gone into the land of Egypt to sojourn there,
shall know whose words shall stand, mine, or theirs.
29 And this shall be a sign unto you, saith the LORD, that I
will punish you in this place, that ye may know that my words
shall surely stand against you for evil: KJV |
Jeremiah 44:25-29
25 thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, as
follows:' As for you and your wives, you have spoken with your
mouths and fulfilled it with your hands, saying, "We will
certainly perform our vows that we have vowed, to burn
sacrifices to the queen of heaven and pour out
libations to her." Go ahead and confirm your vows, and certainly
perform your vows! ' 26 "Nevertheless hear the word of
the LORD, all Judah who are living in the land of Egypt,
'Behold, I have sworn by My great name,' says the LORD, 'never
shall My name be invoked again by the mouth of any man of Judah
in all the land of Egypt, saying," As the Lord GOD lives. "
27'Behold, I am watching over them for harm and not for
good, and all the men of Judah who are in the land of Egypt will
meet their end by the sword and by famine until they are
completely gone. 28'And those who escape the sword will
return out of the land of Egypt to the land of Judah few in
number. Then all the remnant of Judah who have gone to the land
of Egypt to reside there will know whose word will stand, Mine
or theirs. 29'And this will be the sign to you,' declares
the LORD,' that I am going to punish you in this place, so that
you may know that My words will surely stand against you for
harm.' NASB |
Is Mary the Catholic's "Queen of heaven"?
Catechism of the Catholic Church
966 "Finally the
Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original
sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken
up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord
as Queen over all things, so that she might be the
more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and
conqueror of sin and death." The Assumption of the Blessed
Virgin is a singular participation in her Son's
Resurrection and an anticipation of the resurrection
of other Christians: ― Source: The Catechism of the Catholic Church
[electronic version of the book]. (Official permission by the
Catholic Church of this text version granted by
Amministrazione Del Patrimonio Della Sede Apostolica, case
number 130389.) Catechism #966 source:
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/966.htm
Catholics also say that Mary was
perpetually (for ever) a virgin, even after the birth of Jesus
(Catechism 499-500) - Even though the Bible speaks of four other sons
(and according to Bullinger) "at least three" daughters born to Mary and
Joseph after the virgin birth of our Messiah Jesus Christ.
Catechism of the Catholic Church
499 The
deepening of faith in the virginal motherhood led the Church to
confess Mary's real and perpetual virginity even
in the act of giving birth to the Son of God made man. In fact,
Christ's birth "did not diminish his mother's virginal integrity
but sanctified it." And so the liturgy of the Church celebrates
Mary as Aeiparthenos, the "Ever-virgin".
—
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/499.htm
500
Against this doctrine
the objection is sometimes raised that the Bible mentions
brothers and sisters of Jesus. The Church has always understood
these passages as not referring to other children of the Virgin
Mary. In fact James and Joseph, "brothers of Jesus", are the
sons of another Mary, a disciple of Christ, whom St. Matthew
significantly calls "the other Mary". They are close relations
of Jesus, according to an Old Testament expression.
—
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/500.htm
In #500 above, the Catholic Church tries to answer away their obvious
earlier error with an excuse. But a full read of the Scripture
that the Catholic Church referred to clears the air perfectly.
Jesus had (step) brothers and (step) sisters. This is indisputable
by an in-context read of the below Scriptures. Note: the
"James" and "Jude" referred to below are the authors of the books baring
their name in the Bible. Also, neither this James nor
this Jude were among the original Twelve Apostles.
Mark 6:1-4
6:1 And he went out from thence, and came into his own country; and
his disciples follow him.
2 And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the
synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, saying, From whence
hath this man these things? and what wisdom is this which is given
unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by his hands?
3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the
brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda [Jude], and Simon?
and are not his sisters here with us? And they were
offended at him.
4 But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in
his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.
KJV
Galatians 1:18-19
18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter,
and abode with him fifteen days.
19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the
Lord's brother. KJV
Jude 1
1:1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and
brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the
Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called: KJV
1 Corinthians 9:5
5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other
apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?
[surname of Peter]
KJV
Matthew 12:46-50
46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and
his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy
brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my
mother? and who are my brethren?
49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said,
Behold my mother and my brethren!
50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven,
the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. KJV
Acts 1:13-14
13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room,
where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and
Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and
Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.
14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication,
with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his
brethren. KJV
John 2:11-12
11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and
manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.
12 After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother,
and his brethren, and his disciples: and they
continued there not many days. KJV
King James version
Bible |
New American Standard
Bible version |
Matthew
1:24-25
24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the
Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her
firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS. KJV |
Matthew
1:23-25
24 And Joseph arose from his sleep, and did as the angel of the
Lord commanded him, and took her as his wife, 25 and kept her
a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called
His name Jesus. NASB |
In conclusion:
In the below, the now deceased Pope Paul
II
blasphemes as he prays to the deceased
Mary, calling HER the "Temple of the Most Holy Trinity."
"Hail, O Daughter of God the Father,
Hail, O Mother of the Son of God,
Hail, O Bride of the Holy Spirit,
Temple of the Most Holy Trinity.
Amen."
- Pope John Paul II; Address at Blessing of Marian Shrine:
Poland, Monday, 7 June 1999
This is the evil spirit
that has invaded the Catholic Church universal! In all cults and
false religions there comes a time when they drift toward the worship of
the feminine, feminine deities, the feminine sexual form, etc. We
see that happening openly in the New Age Movement/New Age Religions.
Eventually the worship of the feminine force devolves into sexual
"sacred orgies," as Israel of old did in their "grove worship" which God
so strongly rebuked them of. "Grove" in the Old Testament is
Asherah, which was a tree or stock fashioned into the image of the
erect male sexual organ. This then was worshipped, and sexual
orgies took place under it. Bullinger has an appendix on this in
his Companion Bible.
Jerusalem in times
past had "Temple Prostitutes," who were high priestesses who played the
part of prostitutes in the Temple of God at Jerusalem (no wonder God had
it leveled). Much of this debauchery is preserved in Talmudic
Judaism and Cabbalism (Kabbalah), though hidden from the majority of
"Jews" because over 50% of "Jews" are Atheist ("Secular Jews," more
Politically Correctly stated). And the majority of the "believing"
layman Jews do not read Judaism's most sacred texts, the Talmud, and
haven't the slightest knowledge of the Kabbalah—two books that are
lifeblood and provide the spirit of their religion Judaism, though "the
lesser brethren" Jews be wholly ignorant to it.
What
spiritually corrupt people do is that they take the male penis and
attribute to it life-giving force. It then becomes an idol,
eventually a god. This cycle has happened too many time to count
in the past. It is called Phallic Worship in modern times.
The Catholic Church is just exhibiting the early signs of this
degeneration into perverted worship. But within the Catholic
Church we do see other signs of this free-fall. That being the
systemic homosexual pedophilia of the priestly class. The "sex
scandal" (if you can call child-rape by priests a mere "sex scandal")
within the Catholic priest's ranks goes all the way up to the top, and
was sanctioned and condoned for God knows how many centuries.
"They" got caught (or got called on it, better stated) recently because
the Catholic Church has lost most of her power. Being now only a
parody of her former self. Thus fulfilling the plan in the
Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion
(no, no, no; that document is not an "AntiSemitic forgery"! The
forgery story was just a cover to conceal a compromised document).
I document this UNDISPUTEDLY in my upcoming book. Below is a
portion of one of the Protocols detailing the International
Judaics plan, as early as 1897, to destroy the Roman Catholic Church,
which at that time was the largest and most powerful Christian body on
planet Earth. Now look at her! Since then the International
Judaics have infiltrated and wrested control of all other branches of
Christianity. The end of the Christian church is nigh, and her
inhabitants don't even see it coming, just like Jehovah'ism (Yehovah'ism)
[the O.T. Hebrew's religion] didn't see it coming in the first century
A.D. I shall cover
this IN-DEPTH in my upcoming book. Below is the 2nd through 6th
paragraph of the seventeen Protocol of the
Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion.
Bracketed [text]
mine:
PROTOCOL No. 17
...[WE SHALL DESTROY THE CLERGY]
[¶ 2].
WE [the International Judaics]
HAVE LONG PAST TAKEN CARE TO DISCREDIT THE
PRIESTHOOD OF THE "GOYIM," and thereby to
ruin their mission on earth which in these days
might still be a great hindrance to us. Day by day
its influence on the peoples of the world is falling
lower. FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE [Liberalism,
egalitarianism; since the French Revolution]
HAS BEEN DECLARED EVERYWHERE, SO THAT NOW ONLY YEARS
DIVIDE US FROM THE MOMENT OF THE COMPLETE
WRECKING OF THAT CHRISTIAN RELIGION: as to other
religions we shall have still less difficulty in
dealing with them, but it would be premature to
speak of this now. We shall set
clericalism and clericals into such narrow
frames as to make their influence move in
retrogressive proportion to its former progress.
[¶ 3.]
When the time comes finally to destroy the
papal court [the Catholic Church]
the finger of an invisible hand will point the
nations towards this court [their
religion—"Antichristianity"].
When, however, the nations fling themselves upon it,
we shall come forward in the guise of its defenders
as if to save excessive bloodshed. By this diversion
we shall penetrate to its very bowels and be sure we
shall never come out again until we have gnawed
through the entire strength of this place.
[¶ 4.]
THE KING OF THE JEWS WILL BE THE REAL POPE OF THE
UNIVERSE [the antichrist/satan],
THE PATRIARCH OF THE INTERNATIONAL CHURCH
[¶ 5.]
But, IN THE MEANTIME, while we are
re-educating youth in new traditional religions
and afterwards in ours
["Antichristianity"],
WE SHALL NOT OVERTLY [openly,
observably; i.e., in secret]
LAY A FINGER ON EXISTING CHURCHES, BUT WE
SHALL FIGHT AGAINST THEM BY CRITICISM
CALCULATED TO PRODUCE SCHISM
[divisions—divide and conquer; which is exactly what
is happening in this present Q&A between a Catholic
and a non-denominational Christian]
. . .
[¶ 6.]
In general, then, our contemporary press
will continue to CONVICT State affairs, religions,
incapacities of the GOYIM, always using the most
unprincipled expressions in order by every
means to lower their prestige in the manner
which can only be practiced by the genius of our
gifted tribe . . .
—Source: The Protocols of the Learned Elders
of Zion, excerpt of "Protocol No. 7."
Delivered by speech in 1897, but published in
1905 (The Protocols of…Zion were the
minutes of the First Zionist Congress held at
Basle, Switzerland, in 1897, under the
presidency of the "father of Modern Zionism,"
the late Theodore Herzl.) A copy of the
Protocols of…Zion is in the British Museum
bearing the date of its reception, August 10,
1906. On-Line source: https://watchman.news/watchman-bs-site-arcv/plez.htm
Twenty
Jewish Popes (by 1925), and The Inquisition
“Mrs. Van Hyning,
I am surprised at your surprise. You are a student
of history and you know that both the Borgias
and the Mediciis are Jewish families of
Italy. Surely you know that there have been Popes
from both of these houses. Perhaps it will surprise
you to know that we have had 20 Jewish Popes,
and when you have sufficient time, which may
coincide with my free time, I can show you these
names and dates. You will learn from these that:
The crimes committed in the name of the Catholic
Church were under Jewish Popes. The leade[r]
of the Inquisition was one, [Tomás]
de Torquemada, a Jew.”
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Understanding that
the Judaics have controlled absolutely the Catholic Church Universal for
more centuries than I am now at liberty to establish, due to time's
sake, goes a long way in understanding her suicidal policies.
(allegations of "AntiSemitism" in the church are strawmen and
bogeys. Same as the falsified "AntiSemitism" in Russia, which
the Int. Judaics are absolute masters of as well, and have been since
1917ff.) It also explains the infamous Inquisitions of the
Dark Ages, in which the Catholic Church burned, tortured, and tore more
Christians than pagan Rome ever did. The Inquisitions were run by
crypto-Jews within the Catholic priest ranks (see textbox at right,
excerpted from my upcoming book). It also explains why at
Vatican II,
in the early 1960's, the first order of business was to "exonerate the
'Jews' of the murder of Jesus Christ." I also document this and
more in my upcoming book. Also, several Catholic "Saints" were
"un-Sainted" because they were made Saints for their being killed
(Martyred) by the Jews in their Ritual Murder practice for Purim
and Passover blood sacrifice, and kneaded into their cakes ("Haman's
Ears," etc.)—unbeknownst to greater Jewry. See our free
E-book on this, as I know that it no doubt sounds surreal to you,
because you have been purposely kept ignorant of it, for obvious
reasons:
Jewish Ritual Murder.
Anyway...
See also our:
Do Catholics Worship the
Mother Mary? And if they do, is it against God's Word?
from which some of the material in this Q & A was
taken.
Peace to you in Christ Jesus. Feel free to follow-up
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