QUESTION
LIST #16:
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Is America the Babylon of Scriptures?
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What is the so-called "Recovery
Version" of the Bible
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"...but we shall all be
changed" (1Cor 15:51): Is this some kind of Rapture???
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Rebuttal to a Pre-Trib Rapturist
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A mocker of God answered; Witnessing to a
Heathen
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An Atheist ignorantly says that the Bible
is copied from Pagan myths
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Is "Christian Identity" &
" British Israelism" teaching, racist?
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Documentation that Adam of Gen 2:7 was
Formed after (and separate from) the creation of man and women in Gen
1:27
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Question #9
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Documentation that Adam of Gen 2:7 was
Formed after (and separate from) the creation of man and women in Gen 1:27
Jan asks:
I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school, etc. When you're 6
years old, I guess you believe what you're told. Anyway, now that I'm 54
years old, I have a question that's ALWAYS bothered me. To this day, I
have not had anyone give me an explanation that makes sense.
Adam and Eve where the first two people on this earth (correct?).
They had two sons, Cain and Abel. Here's where it gets sticky. Who did
Cain and Abel "mate" with, if there were no other women. Eve?
If so, isn't that incest?
Jan
Answer:
Hi Jan:
I'm sorry but Adam and Eve were NOT the first two people on
the planet. All races (white, brown, black...) Were CREATED on the sixth
day. Adam was FORMED on the day after the Seventh Day of rest. See: Mankind;
two separate 'creation events'
Cain married a woman from the sixth day creation that he found in the Land
of Nod. But Seth married his sister; this was not yet a sin, for the
incest laws were not yet given by God. (Abel was murdered by Cain before
he had reproduced, thus he is not reckoned in the genealogies).
I supply the below couple paragraphs that document that the sixth day CREATION
is different than the ‘eighth day’ FORMING of Adam. Bear
in mind that adam, in the Hebrew, means ‘man’; thus mankind is ‘adamkind’.
| Differences
between the two ‘‘creation events': |
| Adam and
Eve were not the first people on the earth. The CREATION
event in [Gen 1:27] is different that the FORMING of
Adam [Gen 2:7] in the Garden of God (Garden of Eden). |
| In Genesis chapter
One
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In Genesis chapter
Two
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| In [Gen chpt. 1] they are CREATED. |
In [Gen 2] Adam is FORMED (an entirely
different word and purpose). |
| In [Gen 1] they are created male and
female at the same time. |
In [Gen 2] Adam is formed some time
before Eve. |
| In [Gen 1] they are told to multiply. |
In [Gen 2] no such command is given
(Adam's family was told to multiple after the flood (Noah told in
Gen 9:1). |
| In [Gen 1] the people were
hunter/fishers. |
In [Gen 2] Adam was a farmer. |
| In [Gen 1] the animals were wild
animals and the plants were wild plants. |
In [Gen 2] they were domestic
animals and crop plants. Adam named these. |
| In [Gen 1] there is no rain. |
In [Gen 2] God made the rain. |
| In [Gen 1] the creation was completed. |
BUT AFTER THAT, in [Gen 2] God saw that
He did NOT HAVE A MAN TO TILL THE GROUND (farmer). So God FORMED
Adam. |
| But probably the most
obvious is that in Gen 1 the plants and animals (wild) were
created before man, in Gen 2, Adam was formed
before the plants and animals (domestic). This immediately
dismisses the misconception that the account in Gen 2 is merely a
deeper explanation of the events in Gen 1. |
See: Mankind;
two separate 'creation events'
God bless!
Nick
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Question #8
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Is "Christian Identity" &
"British Israelism" teaching, racist?
Mr. ‘Anonymous’ writes:
...The word of God teaches us that his elect will be
gathered out of every nation, tribe, people, and tongue, this includes
Jews, and other people considered to be mud people by the abomination
taught by Christian Identity, British Israelism, etc. You cant get to
heaven by swimming upstream, and Jesus does not rent out motorboats to
help you get up the stream.
Answer:
Dear ‘Anonymous,’ you wrote:
“and other people considered to be mud people by the abomination
taught by Christian Identity, British Israelism, etc.”
The so-called Christian Identity and British Israelism have been assailed
and slandered by the fascist liemongering Jewish AntiDefamation Leage (ADL)
for obvious reasons.
British Israelism and Christian Identity (so named by it’s influential
detractors) teach that the Ten ‘Lost’ Tribes of Israel migrated north
and west (as prophesied) and settled Europe (hence: British Israelism) and
later populated the Americas. Thus the true Israel peoples of the Bible
are now found in the west, not in Palestine (Israel). They will not be in
the Israel of the region Palestine until Jesus Christ returns at His
Second Advent and cleanses the land Jerusalem and Zion of the antichrist
and his minions (who will, and are even now, hijacking the land Israel and
the identity of “God’s chosen”. God’s “chosen people,” if that
is what you like to call them, are among the Christian Nations of Great
Britain and America (Ephraim and Manasseh, Joseph’s children and
receivers of the blessing from Isaac [Gen 48:11-22].), spreading the
Gospel to the world as Christ commanded: “And
he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to
every creature” (Mark 16:15).
This of course causes some discomfort for the ‘pirate’ so-called Jews
residing in the modern day country of Israel who are Jesus Christ deniers.
For if the Israel peoples are not in Israel today, who are those who CLAIM
to be Israel in Palestine today?
ANSWER:
Rev 2:9
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich)
and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not,
but are the synagogue of Satan. (KJV)
The Jewish global lobby has found some success at discrediting any
teaching that identifies their commandeering of “God’s chosen”
status. They do this by lying. They accomplish this by people like you
that spread their lies, and the uninformed believe the lies and hyperbole
because it is in ‘print.’
The “Ten Tribes” teaching does not call any people, Mud people,
this is a lie from the Jewish ADL and her political and spiritual
agentures and Christian traitors.
The “Ten Tribes” teaching does not teach that black people or
ANY race is less than human, this is a lie from the Jewish ADL
and her political and spiritual agentures and Christian traitors.
The “Ten Tribes” teaching does not teach that white people are
superior to any other race, this is a lie from the Jewish ADL
and her political and spiritual agentures and Christian traitors.
The “Ten Tribes” teaching does not teach that ALL so-called
Jews are Kenites, this is a lie from the Jewish ADL and her
political and spiritual agentures and Christian traitors.
The “Ten Tribes” teaching does not teach that Adam was the
first white man, this is a lie from the Jewish ADL and her
political and spiritual agentures and Christian traitors.
The “Ten Tribes” teaching does Not teach racism and is Not
represented by White Racist organizations that
have corrupted the Ten Tribes teaching, this is a lie
from the Jewish ADL and her political and spiritual agentures and
Christian traitors. (The ADL shadow-finances many inept racist
organizations so as to exploit them as mainstream for their (ADL’s)
own means.)
People will remain ignorant and believe these Internationalist Jewish
lies as long as they allow themselves to be informed from those (ADL) who
perpetuate the lies in the first place. The truth is out there, seek it;
the truth is in the Bible, seek it. To learn what true "Ten Tribes
Teaching" teaches, see: The
re-formation of Israel in the west. Israel's migrations to "the
appointed place."
Nick
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Question #7
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An Atheist ignorantly says that the Bible
is copied from Pagan myths
Don states:
Most Biblical scholars agree that much of the Hebrew Old Testament
was based on the legends of ancient Sumeria. In this article, the story
of humankind's creation is explored in the parallels between the
Sumerian legends of the garden, Dilmum, and the Hebrew garden of Eden.
The Hebrew account of the Garden of Eden is well known to most people
however facts point to the core of that popular Hebrew story as having
been lifted straight from Sumerian legend. And the story may well have
roots dating back long before the Sumerian civilization.
A goddess of Sumeria, Ninhursag, also known as "exalted lady"
is given the credit for bringing the green plants to the earth and for
creating humans. This ancient "Mother Nature" brought to life
a place called Dilmun, reputed as the true Paradise of the Gods. Many
scholars, Zecharia Sitchin among them, believe that this Dilmum -if not
the original garden- was at least the basis from which the Hebrews
scholars borrowed in forming their scriptural stories of Eden....
Answer:
(Don is a fine example of "a little knowledge is
dangerous." And also the folly of those whom have no
faith.)
Uh, excuse me, Don:
Do you really believe the
error- laced article you wrote, or are you just a predatory atheist trying
to mislead a weak among-the-flock Christian? No true Christian would
pay attention to the filth you just posted about our Lord’s written
Word. Perhaps you posted it here in error, go find an atheist forum to
post it on, atheists will believe anything BUT the truth. You wrote: “Most
Biblical scholars agree that much of the Hebrew Old Testament was based on
the legends of ancient Sumeria.”
Now Don, come-on, don’t be
absurd, “Most Biblical scholars” deny that the Bible is the
Holy Spirit inspired Word of Almighty God? That is what you are in
essence saying with your false statement above. Don, don’t be
foolish!
You also ignorantly wrote: “In
this article, the story of humankind's creation is explored in the
parallels between the Sumerian legends of the garden, Dilmum, and the
Hebrew garden of Eden. ”
Yes, Don, the myths and false
regions do closely parallel God’s Word, but they corrupt God’s truth
and the true Garden of Eden events. Why, Don? Because the Sumerian legends
were taken to Sumeria by Cain after his expulsion. Cain corrupted God’s
Word, commands and histories. The pagan religions that you speak of even
have ‘dieties’ that are perversions of Adam and Eve. For instance, Anu,
Ea and Murdoch are ancient Babylonian ‘dieties,’
but they are simply the corrupted form of Adam (Anu), Eve (Ea), and satan
(Murdoch). Cain started the corrupt religions in rebellion to God.
Don, all major corrupt
religions have a “Garden of God” with a man and woman, a struggle
between two sons, and a “Great Flood” wherein a man and his family
were saved. This is a testament to the reality of God’s Word,
for while all the corrupt religions have these stories, they all
contradict each other. They were all taken, and corrupted, for the true
event that is contained in God’s Word.
In other words, Don, the
corrupted religions copied the truth from Eden and perverted it, NOT Eden
copying the pagan myths and placing them in the Bible. It’s kind of like
which came first, the chicken or the egg? Well, the chicken came first, of
course, for God created them with their ability to reproduce. Likewise,
the truth came first, then foul spirited men like you perverted it.
Sumeria is in Mesopotamia (the
land between the rivers), it is just north of the dead city “Erech”
which is thought to be the Biblical city of Enoch that Cain builded
(approx 3800 b.c.) and named after his son Enoch (Gen 4:17). Cain went
there (Nod), found a wife and set-up a corrupted religion against Jehovah
that not only denied Jehovah, but made gods out of His creation (Adam
& Eve) and even deified (made a god out of) satan! Not, some 6,000
years later, you come to a Christian Website and perpetuate Cain’s lies
against God.
Satan always corrupts truth (Jn
8:44). Even the ancient Greek mythical heroes were perversions of Biblical
personalities, i.e., the Greek Hercules is the Biblical Samson
corrupted.....
Educate yourself, son, then write. (In that order)
God bless, in Jesus Christ’ name!
Nick
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Question #6
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A mocker of God answered: Witnessing to a
Heathen
Mr. "B" writes:
When God speaks to the heart of the christian, does he sound like
Elvis or Howdy Doody?
Answer:
(Our first impulse was to answer this guy with Christian righteous
indignation, but then we thought better of it and decided to use this as
an opportunity to share the Gospel with him. People tend to hear you
out when you are replying to their statements.)
Mr. (Or Ms.) B.:
I will answer your question, but I fear that it will all be just so much
silliness to you. For as the Word declares: “But
God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and
God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which
are mighty” (1 Cor 1:27).
Nevertheless, lest I judge you unfairly, I will give you the humble
opinion of one Christian – myself.
God 'speaks' to the heart of a Christian in that He guides that Christian
into a decision or motivates him/her through inspiration and/or conscience
to do/not do a thing that is in accordance with God's will. Call it
spiritual guidance, if you will.
This ‘speaking to the heart,’ or also referred to as ‘laying upon
the heart’ is within not without. The heart (a euphemism for mind) is
not an organ of hearing, thus the manner of communication is not audible
but mental, heard from within.
The problem, of course, arises when one claims to have heard that which
God has not sent. Therein lies certain danger of deception. But with
prayer and faith a Christian can just feel deep down inside that they
should/should not do a certain thing. It is through the Holy Spirit of God
that this communication/interaction takes place.
In the Old Testament times, in the beginning, God walked with man and
communicated with Him naturally (as with Adam, Eve, Cain, Noah...), but
then later in the Old Testament God communicated with His people through
the priests and prophets. Man of course disobeyed God at every turn until
God left of communicating with His man. This is the inter-Testament years
(between the last book of the Old Testament and the first book of the New
Testament.
Then God saw that His children were wholly corrupt (once again) and had
fallen hopelessly into idolatry and corrupt religion. Man, once again, had
become worthy of nothing but death, the worst kind of death, death
eternal, death of a soul.
But God did not want to have to destroy that which He loved, so He came to
earth in the flesh as a man. This Man is known to us as Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. It was He that would take away the sins of His children and
restore the dead to life (I speak of the eternal death and life of a soul
in the lake of Fire).
So for three and a half years in the first century A.D. God dwelt with man
once again (though Christ lived 33 years, His Ministry was three and
half). God had to take on a flesh body because He (God) is spirit and we
are in a different realm (flesh). Thus, once again spoke mouth to ear to
His man as He had back in the days of old.
But man rejected God in Christ Jesus, and slew Him. The Kingdom was in
abeyance (not yet) and the end time was reserved to a time appointed (our
near future).
Immediately after Christ’s resurrection, God once again dealt with man
through man. That is to say, that the promise that Christ Jesus made of
the sending of the comforter was accomplished. This is the Holy Spirit of
God. It was this most Holy Spirit that drave the Apostles to write the New
Testament (God to man to man in writing).
Regarding the Old Testament inspiration, God spoke one on one with Moses
who wrote the Pentateuch (first five books of the Bible), and as for the
Prophetical Books (Isaiah, Jeremiah, &c.), God spoke through His
Spirit, the Holy Spirit, to the Prophets as to what to write.
Now, today, in our times, even from since after the resurrection of Jesus
Christ, God speaks to the 'heart' (mind/intellect) of His true believers.
These true believers are called Christians, for they believe upon Christ,
they believe upon God. All other religions on the planet are false and
corrupt, either fabricated of corrupted away from the truth. The natural
progression of the Old Testament religion of the Hebrews is Christianity.
Christianity is the fulfillment of the promises of the Old Testament.
Christianity is found in the New Testament (New Covenant, New Promise, New
Contract). Judaism is the corruption of the Old Testament religion of the
Hebrews. Islam is a lie from Mecca in 622 A.D. Buddhism and Hinduism are
lies as well. Satan is the father of lies and the patriarch of false
religion.
But it is impossible for me, as a Christian, to explain to you, and
unbeliever, to the point that you would believe me that God communicates
and fellowships in and upon a Christian. When a Christian prays he/she
feels the presence of the Holy Spirit, the presence of God. It is not like
a slap on the back, it is just a felling of His presence. This I cannot
make you feel or even believe in. I just know ‘cause I know, you know
what I mean?
Is it safe to guess that you are a heathen, Mr. B.? If you are (indicated
by your mocking of the Lord) then this will all have sounding like the
delusions of a Delude. But then, even though you believe not in Him, God
believes in you, God spoke of people such as you:
1 Cor 1:18
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness;
but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. (KJV)
1 Cor 1:21-25
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God,
it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that
believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and
unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the
power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of
God is stronger than men. (KJV)
My advice to you: You had better be right real sure that God isn’t,
because if He is He will ask you one day why you mocked Him
that had made you.
And of a surety God is, for even His name declares it. God
is the I AM:
Exod 3:13-15
13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of
Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me
unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say
unto them?
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou
say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto
you.
15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the
children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham,
the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is
my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. (KJV)
And Jesus is Lord and God:
John 8:56-58
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was
glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and
hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham
was, I am. (KJV)
Would be to God, Mr. B., that if just even for a moment you would know and
feel the presence of the Lord as a Christian does. You would then convert
on the spot instantly! But only God can turn a heart. Ask Him to touch
yours with faith -- He will. He won't do it with great theatrics, He isn't
going to plop down in your living room and show you a couple of miracles,
He doesn't operate that way; And He might not do it for a long time, but
He promised that all would find Him whom first sought Him out.
Luke 11:9-10 (Jesus
speaking)
9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall
find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and
to him that knocketh it shall be opened. (KJV)
I'll say a prayer for you if you wouldn't terribly mind.
God bless!
Nick
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Question #5
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Rebuttal to a Pre-Trib Rapturist
In a recent internet
correspondence with a Rapturist a very long montage of
taken-out-of-context Scriptures were strung together by him that
supposedly explained this man's Rapture beliefs. Below we have
excerpted the man's letter and answered some of his inconsistencies.
In reading his 'points' and
the Biblical answer against them it becomes abundantly clear why these
people (Rapturists) are so wholly lost and deceived when it comes to
understanding end-time Biblical prophecy. The whole of their beliefs
regarding their so-called Rapture is nothing more than a house
built upon the sand that shall be washed away at the true Second Advent of
Christ, when He, Jesus Christ, shall return to this earth and promptly
deposit their antichrist (false christ) into the pit. It is then
that the Rapturist shall shamefully join the rest of the world as she
fulfills the prophecy:
Rev 6:15-17
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and
the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every
free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the
face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to
stand? (KJV)
Below
is our rebuttal to some of the man's points. At times he seems to be
'arguing' against those who hold that there is no Rapture contained in the
Scriptures, and at other times he seems to be 'arguing' with those
Rapturists who differ from his particular Rapture faction; in other words,
he is what is called a Pre-Trib Rapturist who is debating relative timing
with a Post-Trib Rapturist. Of course they are both wrong, it is
just that one is more wrong than the other. We did not post his long
errant letter as we do not post false doctrine here, lest anyone happen on
it and think it be the truth. Lord knows there are too many of false
doctrine Rapture Websites as it is. We do not want to feed into the
deception by mistake.
Our reply to the Pre-Tribulation Rapture
believer (David):
Hello David:
I welcome your rebuttals, and
fully support your right to believe in whatever end-time scenario that you
choose.
That having been said, allow me
to explain some of the things that you see as contradictions. For
they are not contradictions, they only appear as contradictions when one
tries to insert a monumental event (Rapture) into the Bible when it is not
there.
David said:
“ post-anything rapture [referring
to a Post-Tribulation Rapture view over a Pre-Tribulation Rapture view]
flies in the face of many scriptures which
clearly demand a coming of Christ that could occur at any moment.”
AND:
“To be watching and waiting for Christ if
antichrist must appear first would be like...”
But David, on an individual
level, the day of Christ is at hand for everyone. If you walk
outside your door today and get run over by a truck, guess what? It
is the day of the Lord for you, for you shall see Him that day. Yes
David, Christians must always be ready. No contradiction there.
David said:
“That the coming which Christ's bride longs
for will bring the resurrection of the dead and the transformation of
the living into new bodies is clear not only from 1 Thessalonians 4, but
from other passages such as...”
Dave, you seem to forget all
those whom died prior to this event. God’s plan includes those who
pass away before the end-time as well as it pertains to those whom are
alive at His coming.
David said:
“Nor does the following from Christ fit a
post-trib coming: "Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour
as ye think not the Son of man cometh" (Mt 24:44).”
I believe I covered that above,
regarding the individual. However, even in the end-times, when
Christ does return at His Second Advent, many shall think it an hour that
He wouldn’t come. The reason being that they shall think that He
ALREADY CAME! They shall think that the antichrist is the true
Christ. Thus the reason for all Jesus’ many warnings about not
worshipping the first one who comes claiming to be Jesus Christ.
Matt 24:24-26
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall
shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they
shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he [the
false christ antichrist] is in
the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret
chambers; believe it not. (KJV)
&c...
David said:
“ It is absurd to imagine that anyone who
had survived the Great Tribulation and had seen the prophesied events
(the plagues and judgment poured out upon earth; antichrist's image in
the temple; the mark imposed to buy and sell; all killed who would not
worship antichrist's image; the three witnesses in Jerusalem killed,
then resurrected and caught up to heaven; Jerusalem surrounded by the
world's armies, etc.), and who had counted the foretold 1,260 days,
could possibly imagine at that hour that Christ was not about to
return!”
David, you bring up a great
many topics in your above statement. May I take them by the numbers and
offer BRIEF explanation that may be later expounded upon if any one of
them is a stumbling block?
“It is absurd to imagine that anyone who had
survived the Great Tribulation” – ANSWER:
The Great Tribulation is deception, not slaughter. Those looking
for slaughter shall be deceived by the false christ antichrist and his
false peace and safety.
“the mark imposed to buy and sell”
– ANSWER: The mark of the beast is not yet
fully comprehended. Even you will agree that we simply do not know
if it is a literal mark or a spiritual mark (or both) bore by the deceived
masses.
“all killed who would not worship antichrist's
image” – ANSWER: Yes, Dave,
many shall be killed, but they will killed as Heretics for denying the
false messiah antichrist whom the world esteems as the true Messiah of
God. This is not unimaginable, for how true Christians many did the
Catholic Church burn during the Dark Ages as Heretics. Can’t happen
again, you say? Don’t you believe it! For Christ Himself said that it
would: “They shall put you out of the
synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think
that he doeth God service.” (John 16:2)
“the three witnesses in Jerusalem killed”
– ANSWER: I’m sure that you meant Two
Witnesses, i.e., Rev 11:3-12
“then resurrected and caught up to heaven” – ANSWER:
Oh yea, Dave, the world will get a wake-up call at that moment for sure.
However, that happens ONE LITERAL HOUR before the Second Advent of Jesus
Christ, i.e. “And the same hour
was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell,
and...” (Rev 11:13)
“Jerusalem surrounded by the world's armies”
– ANSWER: You are out of sequence with this
statement. We can discuss it later if you like.
“could possibly imagine at that hour that
Christ was not about to return” – ANSWER:
Dave, they will not imagine that Christ can come to them at that time
BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT HE IS ALREADY THERE! That is the only time a
Christian could ever fathom that Christ will not return. Below is
the situation at hand just prior to the Second Advent, and it is the one
single reason that they shall think He cometh not:
II Th 2:3-4
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day [the
day of the Lord, the Second Advent] shall
not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be
revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or
that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God. (KJV)
David said:
“ Christ says He will come at a time of
peace and prosperity when even His bride will not expect Him”
Explained above.
David said:
“ Yet Scripture says that the Messiah comes
when the world is almost destroyed by war, famine and God's judgment and
Israel is about to go down in defeat”
Does it really? You confuse the
first beast of revelation chapter 13 with the second beast of that
chapter. We can expound on that deeper if you would like.
David said:
“ How could Christ come from heaven to
execute judgment upon earth "with ten thousands of his saints
[i.e., multitudes]" (Jude 14) if He had not first taken them to
heaven? Here we have another reason for a pretrib rapture.”
Dave, you make the same mistake
that the Rapture Churches make today. You assume that the whole
Bible and the whole plan of God revolves around ONLY THOSE ALIVE AT HIS
COMING. What will you have us do with the Billions who died before
the Second Advent? What would you do with the great multitudes that
died in Christ in times past? It is they whom are the returning army
with our Lord. We believers are still on earth, and when Christ
returns with His army we whom are still alive on the planet whom believe
upon Christ shall be changed (transformed to our spiritual bodies without
tasting of a flesh death for Judgment to eternal life), while the
unbelievers shall be slain (and thus enter their spiritual bodies for
Judgment to death).
I an interested in continuing
this, but could we focus on just maybe one or two subjects at a time to
facilitate a better coverage of each and a shorter response?
And yes David, I agree with
your statement: "Come Lord Jesus,"
but much has to happen before it is yet time for that. Let's not let
our guard down in the last hour like the five foolish virgins shall do.
God bless!
Nick
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Editor's Note: David never responded.
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Question #4
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"...but we shall all be
changed" (1Cor 15:51): Is this some kind of Rapture???
Internet correspondence with M.:
Hi Nick,
There will be a rapture irregardless of whether it is pre, mid, post
trib. You cannot ignore the scripture that was presented to you in the
study.
1Cr 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We
shall not all sleep, but WE
shall ALL be changed,
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a
trumpet, and they shall gather together his ELECT from the four winds,
from one end of heaven to the other.
Notice that it says he shall gather the elect and it will be the lost
that sleep.
Answer:
Hello M.:
You error is apparent in
your final summation sentence where you said: "Notice
that it says he shall gather the elect and it will be the lost that
sleep." We shall cover that quite in-depth in
our below reply. But let me just rThank-you for taking the time to
explain and defend your particular Rapture beliefs. For in doing so
you give opportunity to clear up misconceptions that are keeping others in
deception. Though we know that you are being sincere, you have just
been taught falsely in the many Rapture churches of these end-times that
have supplanted traditions of men where sound Biblical doctrine should be.
I think it all comes down to
what one means when they say “Rapture.” Since the term is not in
the Scriptures, we must guess what each other means, every man placing his
own spin on the term.
Now I understand all the “Harpadzo,”
“Rapere” stuff, which I feel feeds into the great confusion.
[Note: Harpadzo is the Greek word that means to
violently seize by force, it is this that they claim is their Rapture.
The word Rapere is a French word and they claim that this
somehow supports their Rapture. By manipulation these foreign
language words they have been told that the word Rapture is
in fact in the Scriptures, and that it takes on some secondary meaning
that they (the Rapture Doctors) attributes to it. They believe this.
It's all smoke and mirrors!] See: The
Rapture Theory; What Does God's Word Say About It?
I do not argue the point that
Christ Jesus shall return to this earth and change His believers in a
twinkling of an eye into their spiritual bodies without them tasting of
flesh death. I also do not argue the point that Christ Jesus shall
return to this earth and slay the unfaithful and the evil (thus
transforming them into their spiritual bodies by the death of the flesh).
For it is written that “We shall not all
sleep, but we shall all be changed” (1 Cor 15:51).
I run into problems with
‘Rapturists’ over the relative timing of these events and the sequence
of them. All ‘Rapturists’ (Pre, Post, Mid, Two-Stage...
Tribulation Rapturists) place a significant period of time between these
two events (the ‘bad’ dying, and the ‘good’ being transformed
without dying). Herein lies the problem.
Those ‘two’ events happen
at the same time, or at best, are separated by minutes, not months or even
days. Observe the Scripture you supplied bearing in mind my above
comments:
1 Cor 15:50-52
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the
kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep [die],
but we shall all be changed [transform into spiritual bodies],
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:
for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,
and we shall be changed [i.e., at the
Last Trump]. (KJV)
Verse 52 both sets the timing
of the event and also causes some confusion regarding one segment of the
verse. The timing is clear “at the last
trump.” That is pretty strait forward, the last trump, that
means there are no more after it, it is the end.
The confusion comes in
regarding the statement “and the dead shall be
raised incorruptible.” It is widely regarded in the
rapture Churches, though errantly, that these dead are ‘good’ people
that died in times past, and that this is them raising from their graves
to joint the Rapturists in their reward, i.e., being ‘Raptured.’
As far as I can tell, this is very consistent among Rapture beliefs
regardless of whether it be pre, mid, or post tribulation Rapture
doctrine. But they err in that they seem to be unaware that when we (all)
die we (all) instantly go back to the Father (Luke ch. 16),
we do not remain in the grave with our rotting flesh.
The main problem, I think, is
centered around the meaning of the word “incorruptible” as it is used
here. Many suppose that this word refers to moral character,
i.e., an ‘incorruptible person’ thus receiving just recompense for
a life lived well and rewarded for faith in Christ by ‘going to
Heaven,’ in other words, a saved person. This is incorrect and is
not at all what the word and the Scripture is referring to. The
misunderstanding of this feeds into the Rapture debate in no small degree.
Let’s look at the word in the Strong’s, and then follow-up with
explanation and some Scripture:
incorruptible: Greek word #862 aphthartos (af'-thar-tos);
from 1 (as a negative particle) and a derivative of 5351; undecaying
(in essence or continuance): KJV-- not (in-, un-) corruptible, immortal.
This word in our Scripture is
referring to the flesh body verses the spiritual body. This entire
Scripture is about the change of body at the Second Advent. In fact
Apostle Paul is rather blunt when he sets the stage for this entire
Scriptural truth, Paul prefaces this Scripture by telling us what it is
that he is speaking of:
1 Cor 15:35-36
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body
do they come?
36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
(KJV)
Paul is not
talking here about going to Heaven or going to hell, he is speaking about
what happens to us when we die. For we do not cease existing when we
die, that only happens after Judgment Day when some shall perish in the
Lake of Fire. Paul uses the terms “corruption” and
“incorruption” to refer to the flesh body and the spiritual body.
I know that the word “corruption” carries a secondary meaning in our
modern English language, as in "a corrupt politician,"
thus the common confusion.
Corruption of the body means decay,
the rotting of the flesh back to the dust whence it came. Nothing
more, nothing less. It was prophesied of Jesus Christ that His body
would not see corruption, His body would not decompose (and it did not,
for it stayed not in the grave):
Ps 16:10 (speaking
of Jesus Christ)
10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell [the
grave]; neither wilt thou suffer thine
Holy One to see corruption [decomposition].
(KJV)
Hell: Hebrew word #7585 she'owl (sheh-ole');
or sheol (sheh-ole'); from 7592; Hades or the world of the
dead (as if a subterranean retreat), including its accessories and
inmates: KJV-- grave, hell, pit.
Let’s reexamine our Scripture regarding this “corruption”:
1 Cor 15:42
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption [flesh
that rots]; it is raised in
incorruption [spirit that is immortal -
unless God blots it out AFTER Judgment day]:
(KJV)
1 Cor 15:50
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the
kingdom of God [because flesh rots back
to dust]; neither doth corruption [flesh]
inherit incorruption [immortality
- un-decomposing, un-perishable]. (KJV)
What these Scriptures are
saying is that, in the first Scripture (1 Cor 15:42),
we die and our body corrupts in the grave, then we resurrect in a
spiritual body that does not decay. (This happens at the moment of
the individual's death.). In the second Scripture (1
Cor 15:50), that flesh can not be in the realm of God (for God is
spirit and not flesh — Jn 4:24), and that a temporal flesh body cannot
live eternal. There two bodies within us each, a flesh body and a
spiritual body. When we die our flesh corrupts back to dust but our
soul and spirit live on in our spiritual body (unless and until God Judges
it to death at Judgment Day):
1 Cor 15:42-44
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption [flesh];
it is raised in incorruption [spirit]:
43 It is sown in dishonour [flesh];
it is raised in glory [spirit]: it
is sown in weakness [flesh]; it is
raised in power [spirit]:
44 It is sown a natural body [flesh];
it is raised a spiritual body [spirit].
There is a natural body [flesh], and
there is a spiritual body [spirit].
(KJV)
None of this has to do with
‘making it to Heaven,’ for even though the ‘evil’ among dead do
rise, as do the ‘good’ people who die, some rise only to be judged to hell
(Lake of Fire), and some rise to eternal life in Heaven. This
determination is not made until Judgment Day, and all are in
spiritual bodies at that time (God will not punish anyone till the have
been fairly judged and sentenced). A spiritual body is eternal
EXCEPT and UNTIL God destroys it in the Lake of Fire (commonly, though
errantly, referred to as hell):
Rev 20:11-15
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose
face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place
for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books
were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and
the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the
books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell [this
is what we call the grave - to die] delivered
up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man
according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This
is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life
was cast into the lake of fire [this is what we
errantly call hell]. (KJV)
One last note: The Rapturist
fabricates a second Judgment Day (called by them, the Bema Seat Judgment)
to accommodate their fabricated second Second Advent (Rapture).
There is only one Judgment Day, there is only one more Advent of Christ.
There is no Rapture before the Second Advent of Christ. You may call
the gathering back to Christ at the Second Advent a Rapture is you like,
but in addition to being inaccurate, it confuses the heck out of everyone
and everything.
See: The
Rapture Theory; What Does God's Word Say About It?
God bless
Nick
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Editors Note: M. did not respond; we hope that she took
some of this to heart.
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Question #3
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What is the so-called "Recovery
Version" of the Bible
Kristi asks:
Can someone tell me what this "Recovery
Version Bible" is about or if anyone has ever heard of this or it's
author? For some reason it just sounds wrong, don't know why and I could
be wrong.
The reason I ask is I like to enter contests so I
go to some contests message boards which also has a freebies listing. I
try to share Jesus when I can with my friends there and I would like to
tell them if this bible is ok or not. It has been nagging at me and I
just want to make sure.
Thanks,
Kristi
Answer:
The
so-called "Recovery Version" of the Bible is a 'Commentary
Bible' written by and used by a sect of Rapturists who call themselves
"The Church." They are based at Living
Stream Ministry, Anaheim, and have braches
worldwide.
This 'Bible' version is a corruption written by one
'Watchmen Nee' and his sidekick 'Witness Lee.' They are two Oriental
gentlemen who teach the Rapture lie and have written Rapture into their
new Bible. Witness Nee is claimed to have received further
revelation from God and he placed this "recovered" wisdom into
his new Bible; hence the name "Recovery Version."
As of
last year (2000) they only had corrupted the New Testament, but even then
work on the Old Testament was under way.
It is
satan's handiwork, as is the false rapture theories, beware! If they
need a new Bible to teach their pet theories, then their pet theories are
offensive to God. Such is the Rapture hoax.
Below
are a couple of trailers for their new version bible:.
Observe how they use the Holy Scriptures as a platform to introduce their
own corrupted commentaries that pervert the Word of God:
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CAUTION - deceitful
sales pitch below for the "Recovery Bible"! |
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The below excerpted from: The
New Testament Recovery Version, promotional package, Witness
Lee, 1985, 1991. Living Stream Ministry, Anaheim, CA.
"A Brief Explanation
Throughout the centuries,
translations of the Bible have steadily improved. In general, each
new translation inherits from previous ones and opens the way for
later ones. While a new translation derives help from its
predecessors, it should go further. The Recovery Version of the
New Testament, following the precedent set by the major
authoritative English versions and taking these versions as
reference, not only incorporates lessons learned from an
examination of others' practices but also attempts to avoid biases
and inaccurate judgments. This version, frequently guided by other
versions, attempts to provide the best utterance for the
revelation in the divine Word, that it may be expressed in
the English language with the greatest accuracy."
"A Proper Understanding
Translating the Bible depends
not only on an adequate comprehension of the original language but
also on a proper understanding of the divine revelation in the
holy Word. Throughout the centuries the understanding of the
divine revelation possessed by the saints has always been based
upon the light they receive, and this understanding has progressed
steadily. The consummation of this understanding forms the basis
of this translation and its New Testament footnotes. Hence,
this translation and the accompanying footnotes could be called
the "crystallization" of the understanding of the divine
revelation which the saints everywhere have attained to in the
past two thousand years. It is our hope that the Recovery
Version will carry on the heritage that it has received and will
pave the way for future generations."
"Features of the Recovery
Version
The subject provided at the beginning of each book and the
outline of each book take the historical facts as their base
and express the spiritual meaning in each book. In the New
Testament, the footnotes stress the revelation of the truth,
the spiritual light and the supply of life more than
history, geography, and persons. The Old Testament with
footnotes should be available in 2001. The cross references lead
not only to other verses with the same expressions and facts but
also to other matters related to the spiritual revelation in the
divine Word."
"...published by Living Stream Ministry. The product of
over 10 years of extensive research, the New Testament Recovery
Version is based on the consummate understanding of the divine
revelation. Truths that have been recovered steadily and
progressively since Martin Luther's time are brought together in
this unique version of the New Testament."
"Bibles for America (BFA) is a non-profit organization
that distributes free Recovery Version Bibles as well as Christian
literature throughout the United States. Its hope is that people
would "come to the full knowledge of the truth"
according to God's desire in 1 Timothy 2:4. Bibles for
America primarily offers the Recovery Version of the New Testament."
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Be careful with this corrupt work!
God bless!
Nick
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Question #2
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Is America the Babylon of
Scriptures?
David (different David) writes:
Hey Nick, I've been doing some studying and researching
Revelations where it talks about the harlot that sits atop seven hills
(or mountains) and I have always thought that that verse is talking
about Roman Catholic church (or Rome). As of late I starting to
think that possibly it could be America and that the hills or mountains
are really the seven continents. That is not what I believe a 100%
but just curious and will continue to study and research. Oh yeah,
really appreciated your in-depth study of the rapture doctrine. I
was never really for sure about a rapture but leaned more towards the
post-trib rapture doctrine before I know what I know now. Do you
think America could be the beast that was to be wounded? I do know
that there is more going on behind the scenes with this attack and Satan
is behind it all and ushering in his New World Order right before our
eyes.
God bless.
David
Answer:
Hi Dave:
For centuries
people have determined that this 'seven mountains' is Rome; for, they say,
Rome is built on an area composed of seven hills. But by that
reckoning Jerusalem herself could not be ruled out, for she is built upon
a series of hills, how many were originally there is obscured because many
have been leveled off and filled in over the millennia. So then, if
we were to take the Scripture as seven literal hills we
could locate several possible locations worldwide.
We do not feel
that this is the correct interpretation of the prophecy, and as we shall
show below, Scripture gave us much hint as to where this woman (whore)
sits.
The "woman" (the whore) is the one-world
politico-religious system of the antichrist. It is Mystery Babylon.
Rev 17:4-5
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked
with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her
hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, [i.e.,
her name is -] MYSTERY, BABYLON THE
GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)
She rides (controls) the world. There are two beasts
in Revelation chapter 13, the second is the antichrist (satan) but the
first is his (antichrist's) politico-religious system, and it is global
once fully in place:
the
prophecy of the first beast (the 'New World Order' - NWO)
Rev 13:1-4
1 And I 1
stood upon the sand of the sea 2,
and saw a beast 3 rise
up out of the sea 2,
having seven heads 4 and
ten horns, 5 and
upon his horns ten crowns, 6
and upon his heads the name of
blasphemy. 7
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were
as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the
dragon8 gave
him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his 3 heads
as it were wounded to death; 9
and his deadly wound was healed: 10
and all the world wondered after the beast. 3
4 And they 11
worshipped the dragon 8 which
gave power unto the beast: 3
and they 11
worshipped the beast, 3 saying,
Who is like unto the beast? 3
who is able to make war with him?
12
(KJV)
scripture
notes
1 I
- John,
who was taken forward to the Millennium and shown events future-yet.
2 sand
of the sea -
'edge of humanity'. Waters are peoples in the prophecies of the
book of Revelation, i.e., "...The
waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and
multitudes, and nations, and tongues" (Rev 17:15).
3 a
beast - the first beast of
two beasts in Rev chpt. 13; this is a political beast, being
the one-world system (NWO). The second beast is
antichrist/dragon/satan (the same one entity). There are two
beasts in Rev chapter 13: "and
I beheld another beast..." (Rev 13:11).
4 seven
heads - seven regions or
territories of influence, seven geographical regions of the
confederacy, liken it representative of all seven continents.
7 = completeness.
5
ten horns - ten
centers of power, ten confederated magistrates. The 'capitals'
in the seven heads. 'Horns' always symbolize power and rule (see
Dan 7:20-21).
6 ten
crowns - ten men, ten
rulers, ten kings (most likely ten Kenites).
7 name
of blasphemy - the blasphemy
is that this beast (the one-world system) shall eventually worship and
pay honors to a false god (satan/antichrist). "...with
a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with
glory...." (Dan 11:37-39).
8 the
dragon - the
antichrist/dragon/satan (the same one entity), this is the second
beast. The dragon (satan/antichrist) controls the first beast
(the NWO), first from his place of holding (in Heaven - Rev 12:7-8),
then, after he is cast out unto the earth (Rev 12:9), he rules from
earth as the antichrist, as the false god of 2nd Thes 2:4.
9 wounded
to death - war or near war.
This first beast is a global system, a confederacy of the world's
powers. The 'deadly wound' to a beast such as this is a
political blow (civil war, secession attempt by one of the heads or
horns?) that destabilizes the NWO.
10 was
healed - union strengthened,
rebellion put down, global unity restored. This is accomplished
by satan/dragon/antichrist when he arrives on the earth in Rev 12:9.
11 they
- "all the world"
from the preceding verse (verse 3).
12 who
is able to make war with him? - they
(all the world) shrink at the irony of a one-world system, there is no
way to resist it, for it is universal. There can be no option to
a one-world system, there is only one government, one banking system,
one food distribution system, one school system with one curriculum,
one media, one law, and one religion. They would ask: "Who
can resist, who can fight it?" Answer: God's Elect, through
His grace and the power of the Holy Spirit!
This whole-world one-world system begins politically by the hands and
operations of mankind (though motivated by satan/antichrist from his place
of holding) and evolves into a solid whole-world Confederacy,
becomes wholly a global Communistic
government, and then finally when satan is cast out of his place of
holding in Heaven (Rev12:9) as the antichrist, it manifests itself into a
pure, albeit wholly corrupted, planetary Theocracy
(God ruled, or ruled by a god figure). The whole planet and
every citizen in bondage and enslaved by satan (as the antichrist) through
deception and lies.
But getting back to the woman, she sits upon the seven regions of the
world, which indicates her supremacy over the entire globe:
Rev 17:9
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven
mountains, on which the woman sitteth. (KJV)
Below we see that this
woman sits upon the peoples, all the peoples (the sea — the waters = the
peoples):
Rev 17:15
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore
sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
(KJV)
Mystery Babylon is that
woman:
Rev 14:8
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is
fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she
made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication [religious
adultery]. (KJV)
Scripture then tells us
that the woman is the great city (Jerusalem):
Rev 17:18
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great
city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. (KJV)
We see Jerusalem referred
to as that great city even in the Old Testament:
Jer 22:8
8 And many nations shall pass by this city, and they shall
say every man to his neighbour, Wherefore hath the LORD done thus unto this
great city? (KJV)
Finally, Scriptures nails
down, without any room for doubt, the exact location and thus the identity
of the great city:
Rev 11:8
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city,
which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord
was crucified. (KJV)
And after the end of this age, after the great Judgment Day, after the old
things are done away with, after all evil and evil doers are cast into the
Lake of Fire (commonly referred to as 'going to hell'), the new Heaven and
new earth (commonly referred to as Heaven) is identified as the great city
Jerusalem (rejuvenated and with God present):
Rev 21:10
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain,
and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem,
descending out of heaven from God, (KJV)
America is not Babylon! America is the greatest Christian nation
existing, had not God so blessed America (and her brother nation
Great Britain) the world would not have any Christian nations left.
This was done by God's good pleasure and His design, we are strong and
feared militarily worldwide, and because of that, Christianity has been
allowed to exist globally. if you remove Great Britain and America
from the history of the world, Christianity would have long ago become
not. But God was and is always in control.
Sadly though, the end-time Jerusalem shall be Babylon, God's holy city
wholly trodden under and defiled; for it is there that the antitype to the
'King of Babylon,' i.e., (antichrist/satan/dragon/serpent/devil/son
of perdition/man of sin/ &c. — many names, same entity — see Gen
3:15, Rev 12:9, Rev 20:2, &c.) shall sit and rule
the world:
II Th 2:2-4
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit,
nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ [the
Second Advent] is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come
[the Second Advent],
except there come a falling away first, and
that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition [the
antichrist];
4 Who [the antichrist] opposeth
and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is
worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God. (KJV)
There is only one place on the planet that would contain the "the
temple of God," that is Jerusalem,
that great city. For satan shall sit there imitating the Lord (as
the antichrist, the instead-of christ), no other place would do, for satan
is vain and proud and shall seek to become as God; he will not set up some
cheap temple in some second-rate city anywhere else in the world, he will
reign (falsely) from Jerusalem, that great city, "shewing
himself that he is God."
In prophecy, America is Manasseh and Israel, as Britain is Ephraim and
Israel in prophecy — they are brothers who received the blessings from
their father Joseph (by God's approval & design), see Gen 48:8-22.
Israel is wherever the Israel peoples are.
In prophecy, 'Jerusalem' and 'Judah' and 'Zion' are the location of modern
day Israel (in Palestine). The reason being that the Israel
peoples are not now in the modern day Israel of the Middle
East, they (true Israel) are in the places whence they were scattered
(America, Great Britain, &c.). The people currently in the modern
day state of Israel are not the Biblical Israel
peoples, they are mostly (not all!) impostors of the house
of Edom (Esau & Kenites & Khazars &c.), mixed in with some
of true Judah. They are mostly (not
all!) the people spoken of below:
Rev 3:9
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they
are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them
to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
(KJV)
Rev 2:9
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich)
and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are
not, but are the synagogue of Satan. (KJV)
If this is something you have never studied you
might enjoy: The
re-formation of Israel in the west - Israel's migrations to "the
appointed place," and, When
was the word 'Jew' first used in the Bible versions; are modern day so-called
Jews the 'chosen of God' in the Bible?
We could have examined many more Scriptures, perhaps you will take this
study forward for yourself. I think your question was excellent and
timely given the current events, thank-you for asking it.
God bless!
Nick
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