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Hi Reader. Sorry to have taken so long getting to this, but I have been so busy. And no, you are never bothering me talking about the Scriptures―that is my desire―to work in the Scriptures. Let's get right into it. First I'll take your last letter, then answer your general question (from all the letters on this topic, together). Regarding your last piece, which you supplied from another author:
Oh, have we really? You know that I don't like the jumping through hoops to make a Scripture say what one wishes it to say, by playing Strong's Concordance games. That is what the author has done with the term "putting-away." Putting away means to divorce, period. All the "word-study" gymnastics in the world shall not change that.
They wouldn't be committing adultery. It is not adultery for a single woman to live in a sexual relationship with a man, whether he is married or not. It is a sin for her however, and it is not moral; for, a woman is to be a virgin for her husband, but it is not adultery. Adultery is the taking of a married woman by a man other than her husband. Let's not lose sight of that fact (more on that later).
Well, more on remarriage in a moment. The author of the above piece is confusing marriage with sexual intercourse, and he/she does not seem to grasp that male and female have different rules. This is New Age interpretation, at it's "best." The blending of male and female and the confusion of gender roles caused in no small part by the ungodly Feminist Movement. It is impossible to council a woman on marital issues the same as counseling a male on marital issues―they are both under different standards and rules. You remember some time back ago I got into a long heated debate with some New Age women wherein I ruffled a lot feathers by stating that in the Scriptures, a man cannot commit adultery unless the woman that he lies with is married to another? Well, now perhaps you can see why it was so important that I gave not an inch on that. Let me explain. And in this explanation you shall also have your answer. When a man and woman marry, they become one. Now some suppose that they both change, but they do not both change; it is the woman who changes. The author of the above piece left something out, probably because he didn't understand it, where he/she said:
What is left out, is that when a woman marries, she becomes defiled (spoiled). When a woman loses her virginity, whether married or no, she is changed. This is not so with the male. Observe:
And just in case your author,
who might like to use the Strong's Concordance Observe, at right (top Scripture segment), the modified version of the word, in the phrase "after that she is defiled" that implies the female gender. The lower Scripture segment (from Gen 34:5) is offered to show that the same Hebrew word (tame' ―#2930) is in different forms in the manuscripts, and that with a Strong's Concordance alone, you wouldn't see that. The below segment has the same Hebrew word (tame') in it's purer form, without the feminine gender modifier attached to it. Chastity (virginity) is godly (and commanded) for women, but for man there is not that admonition in the Scriptures regarding chastity. Paul says that it is better for a man to be chaste (not to marry), but that, that is Paul's opinion, and not the Law. Paul states as much: that it is his opinion or recommendation not by commandment (and that is for different reasons, which for confusion's sake, we need not get into here now). Regarding the woman, marriage is synonymous (the same) with losing her virginity; and her being unmarried is the same thing as her never having laid sexually with a man. Today, in our satan-corrupted society, this is not so. But we cannot interpret Scripture based on contemporary values; rather we ought to interpret contemporary values based upon Scripture. Today women have been led to play the whore everywhere. That is why I get onto them (women) in these question/answers―they are not interpreting the Scriptures or their sexual lives in a Biblical manner―they are abiding by today's lowered moral standards for their positions. It is not that I am trying to point a finger at them, calling them "sinners, sinners;" for, who am I? That is not my right, perhaps; but that they should know that a sin is sin, is a duty of all who teach Bible. Many women today have been beguiled into thinking that what they do is of no offence to God, and that their rampant sexual immorality is not a sin. I am just want that they know that it is indeed sin. And what they do about that info is between them and God. But can men be jumping from bed to bed? No, they can not:
So, men; zip it up. But let's focus on the female, since this is the subject of your question: "Can a woman remarry after being divorced." But understand that the same rules do not apply to the male. New Age (and spiritually overthrown) women will be taken aback by such statements, because they feel that they "have every right" to act as whorish as men. Never realizing the magnitude of the act of giving herself to a man sexually. It is a very mighty thing that a woman does when she gives herself to a man. Today this lost. And that, by satan's design. You will notice in Scripture that in marriage, a man marries, but a woman is given in marriage. i.e., a man takes, and a woman is taken. In the below Scripture, we see male and female spoken of regarding their roles in marriage. True, Jesus is speaking of angels, and how when we die we are in our spiritual bodies; but He also refers to the flesh act of marriage today in His analogy. In His reference, we see Him clearly and painstaking differentiate between the male and the female, regarding the marital act. The below Scripture, by the way, is one of the few places that specifically come right out and say that women shall be in Heaven. We know that they shall, of course, but that they shall not be female any longer. Many ungodly feminists take objection to the preponderance of male gender terms in the Bible; they even have rewritten the Scriptures into a new Bible version that uses gender-neutral terms, making God an "it" or a "she;" just like the Gay-Rights movement and Social Engineering is making our sons into 'she' and 'it.' They shall pay hell for that. I suspect that the author of your piece above has subtle feminist leanings and/or sympathies. Which is not say that it is a female writer, many (most) men today are socially and mentally nuetered. But anyway, aside from tampering with the Holy Scriptures (not a little sin by any means), they also do not realize that in God's eyes, in the eternity, we are all, the male and the female, sons of God. But anyway..... Observe the below Scripture for my points:
I'm going to start shortening this up a bit, for we could write a thirty page study on the matter and still not have left nothing undone. You may feel free to write back and ask for an expansion on any particular issue. What the Scriptures teach, is that when a woman has sexual intercourse with a man she HAS married him! The sexual act is what consummates a marriage, not some piece of paper (or papyrus, or slate, or whatever). The term "bill of divorcement" was not some legal tendered document, not some paper that the divorcee carried in her pocket to show perspective new husbands; it was PERMISSION to go and be another man's wife. It was a loosing, a release from contract. It was the man's (who rules over the woman) legal way of saying that he does not want her anymore―and that she is free to go to another. Before Moses, such a woman was then left alone till she died. For the woman is for the man, not the man for the woman. She was his property, they did not belong to each other. She was below, he above. She was his and he owned her. Today that almost sounds insane, I know, by today's satan-degraded standards. But Moses showed mercy of God in that he ordained the "bill of divorcement" wherein such a put-away woman could have another man. But she was never again a virgin, and was spoiled goods. For even the Levitical Priesthood (in Ezek 44) could not defile themselves by marring a divorced woman―unless she was at the first divorced from another Levite Priest. The reasons for this are beyond the scope of this subject. (And no, Ezekiel chapter 44 [or any part of Ezekiel, for that matter] is not about the Millennium, as is commonly supposed.)
But the point is that when a woman marries (has sexual intercourse with a man) she is changed, she is defiled by him. So long as she is with him she is not defiled, because the two became one, but if and when he casts her away (divorce), she has been forever defiled by him before another. You can only lose your virginity once. And men are never spoken of in the Bible as virgins. Only females are referred to by their sexual status (baby, virgin, betrothed, married, widowed, adulteress) But none of this answers your question, does it? Well, a little background was necessary to understand the answer. You want to know if you, a woman, having once been married, and now are divorced, can remarry―and be OK in God's eyes. You want to know if your are sinning every time you lay (sexually) with your second (or third, etc.) husband. Well, the answer has two parts. One, is it a sin? Two, can you be forgiven? For the second, any and all sin can be forgiven in Christ Jesus, period! There is no debate on this, Christ's blood is able to wash your sin. I choose to not go into the "unforgivable sin," and there is an unforgivable sin, because it has absolutely nothing to do with any sexual matter). But you want to know if you must repent every morning after you have sex with your new husband the night before. The answer is no, for you are not married to another, you are married to him. You are his, and by Law are to be his wife and obey and please him. If there were any sin in this situation, it would not be the remarrying to the new husband, it would be in the divorcing of the first. But once you are a man's wife, you are not sinning in your sexual conduct with him. That is your responsibility to him. When woman marries, she gives herself to the man. When a man marries, he takes the wife. These gender roles must not be confused (though today they are hopelessly intertwined and blurred and corrupted). That is why today, almost as many (or maybe as many) woman cheat on their husbands as men cheat on their wives. Technically, in the Bible, a man (except for church officials--Deacons and Pastors) is free to marry more than one wife. However, this does not apply to us today because we are told to abide by the laws of the land wherein we live (Rom 13). And in America, and the rest of the free world, a man may only take one wife legally; and for a man have sex outside of that marriage is illegal by civil law, and grounds for divorce―thus man may not take other women to bed in America, because it breaks civil law and brings shame upon the Lord (Christianity is shamed by what appears to be immoral acts committed by self-professed Christians). So while for the man it is called adultery in our courts when he cheats on his wife, but it is not adultery by Biblical standards. But once again, Paul taught us that we are to live by the civil laws of our nation. A word must be said here for all the men who think to love em and leave em. Teaching this (the true meaning of adultery) can cause much grief because some men take it to mean that they can have sex with other women other than their wives. But they do not understand that in the Bible, when a man had a second wife (concubine) he was required to keep her and care for her for the rest of her life. This is not what most one-night-stand'ers like to do. So they are twisting Scripture if they think that they can have "love-em-and-leave-em" relationships all over the place. Actually, they could be guilty of adultery, in that, if he has her, then casts her aside, then another has her; the original cheating husband is guilty of the adultery of the "lesser wife" (in this case, the one night stand) when she sleeps with another man. That is what Jesus meant in the below, and explains a difficult verse:
Depending upon how old you are, you may remember a different time in America and the free world; It used to be that women acted better than men in matters of sexual morality. But then satan entered, and with Women's "Liberation" and Social "Justice" ideologies things changed forever, for the worse. Woman didn't bring us (men) up, they stooped down lower than we. And now look at the state of marriage today! In Bible times, the average "today's woman" couldn't find a husband who would stoop so low as to take her. And in Bible times, the at least half (maybe 60-65%) of woman today, who are adulteresses, would be taken to the city gates and stoned to death. Do they deserve any less? To say they do is call God's judgments unfair. The below is the perfect definition of adultery. Observe the conditions, they all hinge on the woman's marital status. And notice also that both adulterer (the man, married or unmarried) and the adulteress (the married woman) are BOTH to be killed. Not like the unjust Jews who just wanted to punish the unfaithful married woman (adulteress) in John 8:3-11, and not the adulterer (the man who lay with her).
Harsh? Well, God knows that after one public stoning, there would be a whole lot less adulterers and adulteresses in the land―a whole lot less of these heifers sleeping around to "live life to the fullest and to be all that she can aspire to be." The sexually 'liberated" woman of today thinks that she is "spreading her wings, soaring to new heights, tasting of the cup of equality;" when in reality, they are profaning themselves before their Lord God in ways they cannot yet fathom. The message of Eve is lost on today's whorish women. The same for Homosexuals as well―Sodom escapes their comprehension. Well, God is not so lax. "OH, but you don't understand, brother Nick, God winks and smiles at today's immorality; it's not like it was in those strict old mean Bible days," some fools will say. Well, to them I say: that God is the Great "I change not" (Mal 3:6). But satan will have none of that―he will not have any of God's Law in his new world. The same goes for satan's other great advance―the Gay Rights Movement―with the end result of that, today we have a land filed with sodomites and immoral women. By Biblical Law, there would be a lot of activity at the stoning gate. But yes, Jesus came to save sinners; but He didn't come to make sin not to be a sin; He came to die for the sin. Sin is, and will always remain, sin. Jesus didn't remove sin, He subjected Himself to it's penalty―death. Sin is sin, and sin kills; but for the Christian, that death was paid―if they repent upon His Holy Name. Jesus died for our transgressing of God's Law; though not a one of deserves it, and quite a few make abuse of His sacrifice That brings us to the first part: is divorce a sin? For the woman, the sin in divorce is not the cessation (end) of being married, it is the taking of another husband. It all comes back to the sexual act, regarding the woman. To be married IS for her to have sexual intercourse, for her to have sexual intercourse with man is tantamount (amounts to) to her marrying him. The marriage certificate that you get from the Church or the County Office today is nothing to God (as you see, soon Homosexuals and Lesbians shall have that same certificate framed and hanging on their wall that a man and a woman can have today); what makes you married in God's eyes is when you lay with a man. When you get divorced from that man, you have the right (by God, for our weakness) to remarry another man. You are free to be another man's wife. Once you are a man's wife, you are his, and are to live your life free, as his wife, enjoying all the luxuries of a wife to her husband. You may not return to your old husband because you have been defiled by another man (you new husband). But then, all in Christ can be forgiven; so that even divorcing your second husband and remarrying your first husband is permitted through repentance of the defilement of the first and second husbands. Oh what folly today's immorality has wreaked upon us. It is so very, very important, for a woman to read the Bible from the first verse in Genesis till the last verse in Revelation. Any woman who does this shall have no misunderstanding on how her Creator expects, no, demands, that she act. But women today have been ripped away from the Scriptures, starting in the schools, and turned unto the teachings of vile man. And us men are guilty in that we like to defile women as often as we can. Therein lies our sin. For like Adam was chargeable for Eve (though Adam went even further and sinned himself), so too are we men today charged for the whoredoms of our women (and we also, like Adam, go further in our own sin). I wonder if I made sense of that? So, if you are divorced from another man, and remarried to a new man―go and be a good wife to him―Christ washed you of any sin in your first marriage when you repented of it; and Moses, by God, allowed that you become another man's wife in good standing before the Lord. God knows that we are weak, and He knows what every woman knows: that a woman, once having lost her virginity, shall ever long for that touch. A virgin has not that same strong longing. But as with all sin, dear, we must repent of it―in Jesus' name―to be forgiven. So repent of your part in the divorce, and be made free in Christ Jesus. Then go, be another man's wife; and be his wife all the way, unashamed before God; for he is your husband now, the old things (1st marriage) are done away with in Christ; but only marry in the Lord (i.e., only marry a Christian man).
So while it is not a particularly great thing in God's eyes for a woman to get divorced and take another husband―it is allowed, due to our weakness, which He does understand fully. But it is better to make the first marriage work. Does that answer your question?
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Premarital sex; and marrying a mate who is not a Christian
Answer: Hello, you asked:
I know the natural "temptation" is to embellish the Scriptures to supposedly keep people "good." This is one of the sins of the Catholic Church. But I am not going to lie to you. To answer your question, I will say this (and weigh my words carefully, don't let a misunderstanding of my answer be a cause to sin): It is a sin for a woman to have sex before marriage with someone that doesn't become her husband. Let me explain. When a woman has sexual intercourse, she IS married in God's eyes. Sex is the marital act, marriage is consummated (made complete) in the sexual act. Sadly, women today have many husbands by virtue of the fact that most all women today have (had) many sex partners. You said:
While I like your optimism is the usage of the word "yet" in your above, this matter concerns me more than the premarital sex issue. The reason being that many times an unbelieving husband can draw a Christian wife away from her first love, Jesus Christ. For instance, if your husband is a Jew, then he may try to make you convert to Judaism (which requires that a Christian spit on a Crucifix during the conversion). Remember that the next time you have coffee with an ex-Christian who has converted to the religion of the so-called "chosen of God peoples," Judaism: that abomination to God false religion of the Babylonians! This is why these ex-Christians are called two-fold the children of hell [Matt 23:15]). Ok, enough of that. And if your husband is a Muslim, he may try to make you worship the false god, Allah. Imagine your horror if he raises-up the fruit of your womb to be spiritually dead! The Bible advises women not to marry non-Christians for this very reason.
But if he is listening to you about Jesus and the Gospel, then that is a good first step. I am not saying to go out and divorce him, for the Scripture speaks in another place that a believing wife may help save an unbelieving husband:
But if this becomes a problem later on, and if he refuses to convert to Christianity, or he tries to make you leave off of Christianity, or tries to make idolaters out of your children: then you can divorce him according to the Bible (but not in the Jewish controlled Courts Systems--no mention of God is allowed wherever the Jew is in control, and idolatry is not a legal reason for divorce in these courts--everything else is, but not God and Jesus Christ!). It is better to be a divorced Christian than a married blasphemer. Oh boy, should I go there? Yes, I will; but please understand that I making an analogy to the great woe in rejecting Christ after having once known Him: It is better to be a Christian prostitute, than an ex-Christian virgin. My point, which I hope isn't lost in the admittedly crude analogy, is that spiritual sin is a far greater thing than the sins of the flesh. You said:
Well, you can tell them that I said that they can't be blessed because they are lying in God's name. There is no Scripture that says that it is a sin to have sex with your husband before some Preacher or County Clerk tells you that you are married. You are married in God's eyes the first time you have sexual intercourse. And besides, If those so-called Christians in your so-called church knew one wit about the Scriptures: they would know, that in an instant, Christ can forgive you of any and all sexual immorality; but that a heathen husband may be a snare unto you, by which satan may attempt to draw you away from Christ Jesus. Am I advocating that women sleep with a man before they marry him? No, I am not; but I know that today many put off marriage till later for various reasons, and I also know the ways of mankind. But if you sleep with him, and then you two break-up, then you messed up. Hence it is better to wait till you got the ring. And I know that it isn't lost on you that men lie to get women into bed―especially non-Christian men. Which is another of many reasons to stay with your own (Christians). You said:
It's not "curious" to me, I know that a lot of those busybody, nosey, hypocrite old biddies in most churches today seem to be long on forgiving and forgetting their sexual past and sins, and short on doing do so for others. Let's just call them "lumberjack eyes," and dismiss them as ones who speak with no wisdom. So in closing, regarding the sex with other men before your husband, repent of it, and it is then forever gone. Jesus Christ paid that price upon the cross, so that all believers (Christians) who repent of their sins in His name are forgiven and washed white. Regarding your selection of a heathen to be your husband and the father of your future children? I think that you made a bad judgment call there, for he may prohibit you from teaching your children Christianity―maybe even going so far as to make them into Jews, Muslims, Atheists, or whatever he is―condemning them. And I wouldn't recommend other Christian women do the same as you have chosen to do. But perhaps God has you there to bring your husband to Christ. I don't know, only God knows. It is not my place to make judgment here. What I do know is, that women today really need to do a lot more thinking before they choose their mates, than they seem to be doing. For, if their choice of the husband is a poor one, their children suffer every fate along with them. As you know, men lead the family, especially in non-Christian families (satan is attacking the Christian unions) and they carry heavy sway with the children in matters religious. If the children see you praying to God and Jesus Christ; and then they see their father, say, falling to his knees chanting worship to Allah; or Mother Mary and other dead people; or a stone or a tree or an animal; or whatever religious system he is in; then they may be led astray into the idolatry of their father. Pray for the Lord to touch your husbands heart. Peace to you.
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Well, no, that isn't what I am saying, exactly. I am not saying that "thinking about gay sex is a sin," per se, I am saying that when a man has lusts for another man, there is definitely some kind of problem going on. You seem to be distancing the lust for gay sex, from the actual act of gay sex. But only gay men lust to have sex with other males―right? So where is the difference? I understand that if you don't have a homosexual sex act, then you have not committed the sin of sodomy. I get you there. But to say a man isn't "gay" when he is simply in abstention (not "doing it"), but is desirous to do it, is a little gratuitous. For instance, if I lust to murder: OK, true; I am not a murderer, per se; but my heart is consumed with murderous thoughts. Will I then be judged as a murderer? No, but I may be in danger of one day acting out on those perverted lusts. The Gay man or woman who is simply abstaining from all sex, is equally in danger of slipping into sinful homosexual behavior. So lusting after gay sex is not sodomy. But let's not forget that lust itself is a sin; it is the Tenth Commandment. So in way, he is sinning―by virtue of that. But I am not here trying to accuse him personally.
So then, to covet is to lust. What "law" was Paul referring to? Tenth Commandment:
Many people mistake this Tenth Commandment for adultery. It is not adultery, adultery is the Sev34nth Commandment. The Tenth is lusting for things, the Seventh is laying with another man's wife. Seventh Commandment:
I write in general, to a general audience, about a general problem/issue. So understand, that while I write in answer to you, my answer was tailored to a wider audience (which is why I went into areas that you didn't even bring up―but someone else might be interested in that aspect). I believe that homosexuality is a spiritual assault. I also believe that many forms of insanity are spiritual assaults, and that the psychotropic drugs that we give to people with "mental problems" simply numb that part of the brain which evil spirits interface with. I am wondering if that is the same area that God interfaces with us by―if so, that would explain why the Jewish psychiatric apparatus is putting so many of our children unnecessarily on psychotropic drugs lately [Ritalin, etc.], to numb them for the purpose of separating them from God as best that they can; for our children are to be their slaves in the endtime―so they would think. Jews are taught in their "holy book" [the Talmud] that at the time of the end, when they come into their kingdom, each Jew will have 2800 Goyim [human cattle―Gentile] slaves.
Most Christians don't realize that the kingdom that the Jews speak of, is the kingdom of antichrist. the Jew's god is Lucifer, their lord is money―yet beguiled and fooled Christians today call them "the chosen of God people." Anyway, see article excerpts below for our over-medicated and drug-controlled children. Didn't you ever wonder why, whenever Jesus dealt with a possessed person (insane?), He cast out a demon; and didn't instead heal some "chemical imbalance?" And didn't you even wonder why we don't see so many "possessed people" running around here today, as were in Jesus' day? I mean, Jesus healed more possessed people than people that He raised from the dead. Where are all these possessed people today? And why don't we see insane people in the Scriptures? I believe that we do see insane people in the Bible, and that we do see possessed people on Earth today; but that we do not understand that they are one in the same. So what I am saying is revolutionary, indeed; for I am implying that mental illness can be healed by casting out evil spirits. If I am correct in this, then homosexuals can likewise be healed (cleansed). Look at the conversions of homosexuals to "strait" lifestyles: the Jews don't want you to believe that a homosexual can be made strait, because it is part of their plan. But every Gay that has gone on to become a Strait was "healed, cleansed" in a CHRISTIAN Ministry. What does that tell you regarding evil spirit manifestations? Answer: They cannot abide in a strong Christian setting. It makes perfect sense. These people in these Christian recovery groups are, unknowingly, being cleansed of evil spirits. As far as gender-disinformation at a young age, and to what degree that figures into a man or woman becoming homosexual; I can only say this: Whatever tragedy had shattered their psyche is only the door-opener; once that door is open, evil spirits can take advantage of that broken person. Not all sexually abused children or fatherless children go on to become homosexual or lesbian, but most all Homosexuals/Lesbians are these children. Consider this: The rate at which we are seeing increased incidences of homosexuality (and other mental illnesses, I might add), is in direct proportion to the rate at which Christ is being left out of the world. We are in the 2000s, but back in the 1960s and 1970s, schools began teaching evolution, denying God, and began forbidding the mention of God or Christ in the schools. Not to mention that most children hear little mention of God or Jesus Christ at home, save for Christmas and Easter times. The result is that today, some thirty to forty years later; we have children coming into adulthood (and sexual maturity) two generations removed from God and Jesus Christ. How could we expect that there would not be consequences because of this? Over-medicated children articles below signature line.
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Ecumenism
President Bush signs Executive Order (# unknown)
regarding
religion, and refers to all religions being the same and equal:
The alleged Christian, President George W. Bush (Bush II) mentions a little-known event, his signing of a Presidential Executive Order (supersedes Congress), that he signed, in regards to universal religion:
"So I called on Congress to join me in passing laws that would allow the -- open up the federal treasury to faith-based programs, and they balked. They got caught up in the process. So I signed an executive order, an executive order that instructed all federal agencies not to discriminate against religious groups. Cabinet Secretary -- soon to be Cabinet Secretary Jackson now knows the call. One reason he's the Cabinet Secretary is because he already heard it, however, and that is that we're not going to discriminate against faith-based groups when it comes to housing initiatives. (Applause.) "― Official White House website, "President Speaks with Faith-Based and Community Leaders," Remarks by the President to Faith-Based and Community Leaders, Union Bethel Ame Church, New Orleans, Louisiana. (Office of the Press Secretary January 15, 2004.)
The crowd in the above
(pictured at left) applauded
because they thought they were going to be getting something for
nothing―more free housing in this case―this is the manner which by many (minority)
Christians
are beguiled and bought-off. President Bush delivered the
above address to the African American Union Bethel Ame Church (a
Baptist denomination), and they naturally thought that this was good for
Christianity, and that President Bush was showing his deep Christian roots.
Nothing could be further from the truth! What Bush did was to nail
another spike into the coffin of Christianity, by blending the Christian
faith with all other (false) religions; thus making Christianity just
another valid choice among many. This is not a good thing for
the Christian faith, for it reduces Christianity to the level of anything
that chooses to call itself a religion―instead of what Christianity really
is―the only "religion" sanctioned by God, and the only way that man may be
reconciled to God and eternal life (i.e., salvation.). What the
members of the church failed to see was that Bush is dismantling their
Christian Faith, not helping it be strong.
"Faith"-Based Programs Dismantle Christianity
Bush said moments earlier in that same above speech:
"There is the miracle of salvation in our -- that is real, that is tangible, that is available for all to see. Miracles are possible in our society, one person at a time. But it requires a willingness to understand the origin of miracle. Miracles happen as a result of the love of the Almighty1, professed, by the way, taught, by the way, by religions from all walks of life, whether it be Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu -- people who have heard that universal call to love a neighbor just like you'd like to be loved yourself, and then surround someone who hurts with love. Love is powerful. Love is soul-changing. Love doesn't happen because of government; love happens because of the inspiration of something greater than government. That's what we're here to talk about -- programs based upon faith. Right here in this church, there are faith-based programs. Any program emanating out of a church or a synagogue or a mosque is a faith-based program." ― President George W. Bush; ibid.
[#1WBSG NOTE: Notice the deliberate omission of Jesus Christ, and the use of the religious-neutral term "The Almighty." This is by design.]
In the same speech, President
Bush clarified that he believes that
Christianity is not unique, and that all religions are valid ways to God,
having the Word of God:
"There's nothing better, by the way, than a faith-based program to provide hope. Again, I don't care what religion it is. Nothing more hopeful than the Word. " ― President George W. Bush; ibid.
Shame on "Reverend" Brown of the Baptist congregation, Union Bethel Ame Church of New Orleans, Louisiana: for letting this blasphemy against Jesus Christ happen within his church walls, from his pulpit, on his watch. That church is now defiled.
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Where and why does WBSG differ with Pastor Arnold Murray regarding the Tribulation
Chase writes:
Hello Nick! I love your website! I have studied with Pastor Murray (www.shepherdschapel.com) ...for several years now. Your teaching is fairly new to me but none the less I have learned many new things on your website. I am a little bit confused on the issue of the tribulation. Pastor Murray teaches that Satan comes on the scene peacefully and prosperously. You teach a different scenario. I am not saying that he is right and you are wrong but this issue is confusing me. Since God is not the author of confusion, which scenario is correct. I don't believe that this is a time for a Christian to be confused on a matter of this magnitude. Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.....
Chase
Answer:
Hello Chase: You state/ask:
"Pastor Murray teaches that Satan comes on the scene peacefully and prosperously. You teach a different scenario. I am not saying that he is right and you are wrong but this issue is confusing me. Since God is not the author of confusion, which scenario is correct."
I love Pastor M, he is one of the best, but I also disagree with him some matters. Not on salvation matters, though; my main disagreements are along the lines of prophecy interpretation. It is Ok to disagree even with a teacher that you respect. We are not to be in lock-step. We are to think for ourselves searching the Scriptures daily. I have no bad words for PM.
I also appreciate the respectful and kind manner that you 'questioned me.' And I do not begrudge you of questioning anything that I write or say. I encourage debate where facts must rise to the top, but only in an environment where the Scriptures are esteemed as the written Word of God. Without that common ground we have no foundation for reaching or determining immutable fact. I trust that you trust the Scriptures of Life.
I disagree with PM regarding the end times, specifically regarding the Tribulation. He and I envision two very different worlds at that time, as you have noticed and brought forth. Have you seen our: Scriptural Evidences That Christians Shall Die In The Great Tribulation
The Scripture 'in question':
Dan 8:25
25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand. KJV
peace: Hebrew word #7962 shalvah (shal-vaw'); from OT:7951; security (genuine or false): KJV - abundance, peace (-ably), prosperity, quietness.
Reading the Scripture in context, we see anything but a 'chicken in every pot,' peace and love-fest time. We see a time of great trouble for God's people:
Dan 8:23-25
23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. [antichrist/satan]
24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand. KJV
I understand that "some" try to 'spiritualize-away' the impact of this Scripture, but I cannot see in any context, where one could deduce that this is not a literal overthrow of God's people. Especially since Revelation shows the completed (past tense) of this very Scripture: "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations." (Rev 13:7).
And regarding wherein you state that PM says, "Pastor Murray teaches that Satan comes on the scene peacefully and prosperously," I offer Scripture that speak to some of the events preceding the antichrist. You have the Scriptures, you decide if it is either "peaceful" or "prosperous":
Rev 6:1-11
6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. [NOTE: These quantities are the provisions to feed one man for one day (not his whole family, mind you), the penny is a day's wages (see Matt 20:2). So this is famine; at the very least it is extreme inflation. For, how can a man feed his whole family, day by day; on the food only sufficient for himself, which he earns for that one day's labor?]
7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him [this can't be a good thing!]. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. [Not a good at all for those living on the Earth at that time. Also notice that famine finds it's completion--death]
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: [Here are Martyrs unaccounted for in PM's doctrine.]
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. [These future (after the Tribulation commences) Martyrs are un-addressed in PM's doctrine, other than to be 'spiritualized-away.' That doesn't work for me; it may for you: but the references are much too specific to be parable or metaphor.] KJV
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"Forgiveness in Christ Jesus" means what? And What does it mean to "believe upon Jesus Christ?"
A Reader asks:
"IF I HAVE COMMITTED A SIN THAT CALL FOR ME TO BE PUT TO DEATH AS IN DEUTERONOMY CHAPTER 22 CAN I BE FORGIVEN IF I ASK GOD TO FORGIVE IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST OR SHOULD I BE PUT TO DEATH?"
Answer:
Well, let's see, Deuteronomy 22? We have pre-marital sex in verse 21, adultery in verse 22, rape in verse 25, and incest in verse 30. You could have found worse sins in the Bible elsewhere, though I do not minimize any sin. just that you aren't the worse of the bad. So then, the question is really: which of those sins isn't Jesus Christ's sacrifice able to cover? You know the answer; even little Christians, Sunday School kids, know the answer to that one! All sin can be covered by the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ. All. That's all. But...what about...this one...or that one..or...? ALL! (Except the unforgivable sin, which is not in Duet 22. And that's not because He can't forgive it, but that He won't. See our: The Unforgivable Sin)
It is not because we are worthy of forgiveness, none of us are; it is not because we could somehow atone for sin, none of us could; it is not because we deserve to be forgiven, none of us do. It is because Jesus Christ deserves, Jesus Christ is worthy, Jesus Christ was the perfect propitiation (payment in full) for sin. And this same Jesus Christ made a way for us to be forgiven and saved from the death that all sin deserves, if we would simply believe upon Him, and repent in His name to our Heavenly Father.
Rom 3:22-26
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. KJV
What does it mean to "believe upon Jesus Christ?" It means that you believe what the Bible says of Him, how that He was the Son of God, crucified for the sins of the world, died, resurrected again to life, and is now in Heaven. If you believe that, then you are a Christian; and as a Christian, you are covered by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ when you repent of any sin. All other study and teachings are secondary to that. Belief is the principle thing, after that, we learn obedience, we learn His ways, we learn how to live a life that pleases Him.
You are correct that we need to repent in the name of Jesus Christ to God. And you have done that. So you are free, why do you yet keep yourself in bondage? That is not by my word, but by Scripture, as we shall see below in Hebrews 2:9-3:1.
You can never take away what you did, but Jesus can. You are not bound so long as you have repented in Jesus Christ's name, whom you believe upon, to our Heavenly Father God. Jesus freed us from the sting of (eternal) death. And whom Jesus Christ frees, is free indeed. There is no more payment for a sin after Jesus pays for it, neither in the flesh or in the Heavens.
So while certain sins in the Bible are Capital Offenses (death penalty): once forgiven, there is no sin to perform sentence upon. It is paid for, it goes away, it is gone. No trial, no death sentence, it is paid for. Now, man's legal system may extract punishment for a crime, as that is the duty of a government, but once forgiven of a sin, God requires no such punishments any longer. Man and governments will do to man what they will, what we need to be concerned of is getting right with God.
Heb 2:9-3:1
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death [Jesus was made "lower" than angels because He came in flesh so that He could die (instead of us dying eternally)--angels cannot die on Earth], crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man [He paid with His flesh life so that we don't have to pay with our eternal life. ALL who believe upon Him are included].
10 For it became him [was good in Jesus' eyes], for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, [Jesus has AUTHORITY] in bringing many sons [children of God―no gender intended] unto glory [Heaven-salvation], to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings [He perfected us in God's eyes by His own suffering on the cross for our sins].
11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren [we are in kinship with Jesus Christ by His grace through faith in Him],
12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee. [prophecy from Psalm 22:22 fulfilled by Jesus Christ]
13 And again, I will put my trust in him. [words of promise from 2nd Sam 22:3, provided by Christ Jesus] And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me. [prophecy from Isa 8:18 made perfect in Jesus Christ]
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood [since we live in a flesh body, therefore], he also himself likewise took part of the same [God came for us by Jesus Christ into a flesh body]; that [so that] through death he [by Jesus dying] might destroy him [will cause satan to be destroyed] that had the power of death [satan brings death by sin], that is, the devil;
15 And [Jesus Christ did] deliver them [bring us through] who through fear of death [like you are currently in fear] were all their lifetime subject to bondage [the bondage of sin was upon all men until Christ came, for before Christ we were dead in our sins].
16 For verily [TRULY] he [Jesus] took not on him the nature of angels [didn't come as a supernatural entity like angels are]; but he took on him the seed of Abraham [Jesus came in the flesh through the family line of the patriarch Abraham...Isaac...Jacob...David...etc.].
17 Wherefore [the reason for this all is] in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren [flesh], that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God [that having lived in the flesh with all it's temptations, but overcoming them all, have mercy for our weakness that we were not able to overcome (sin)], to make reconciliation [to set things right, to make the score even, to clean the slate] for the sins of the people [through Jesus, we which are dirty are made clean in God's eyes].
18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted [Jesus was flesh, He knew the longings of the flesh and the temptation to do wrong―but He Himself did no wrong], he is able to succour them that are tempted [He can comfort us because He knows how it is. He understands us, having been one of us, except that He was perfect, and we marred by imperfection]. KJV
What the Scriptures are saying is that through Jesus, we that believe, can all be reconciled back to God. We need reconciliation, we need to be reconciled back to God (made clean, admitted back); because sin separates us from God, and because God is so against all sin, not just the ones in Duet 22, not just the ones in the Old Testament, not just the ones in the New Testament--but all sin.
The bottom line is this: When we sin, and we all do sin sometime, we deserve eternal death. But God, not willing to lose us all, made a provision that we may be saved, even though we have sinned. So how could God save us when He declared that all who sin should be killed? He sent Jesus Christ, a perfect man, who had not sinned even one sin in His 33 years on this Earth.
This man, Jesus Christ, but so much more than a man, the Son of God even; was a worthy sacrifice for us because He was perfect. There is no sin that this perfect sacrifice was unable to pay the price of. So, through Jesus Christ: those whom believe upon Him, those who accept God's offer of a second chance, can be saved from the second death of Rev 20:14 which we commonly refer to as "going to hell." So because of this new way, God does not have to lose all His children whom He loves. He doesn't want to lose any of His beloved children, but He made rules and they must be obeyed. God, in His mercy, gave us a way to saved even though we don't deserve anything other than death. He sent us Jesus Christ that we may be made whole in His eyes. What a mighty gift! And one that we could never repay, never earn, never deserve.
When you were a child, you may have stolen a candy bar from the store, and ate it; it was good, the fruit of your crime was at the time good to you. Then suppose the man at the store catches you and holds you for the law. But your father, having heard of what was going on, comes to the store and acts to intercede for you with the store owner, because your father doesn't want you going to the judge with a crime charged against.
So, even though your father knows that you are guilty and deserving of the full punishment of the law, your father nevertheless pleads to the store owner for mercy on your behalf, and pays the man every penny which the candy bar, that you had stolen and eaten, cost. You are set free, no charges are leveled; your record is clean. The man had pardoned your crime because of the intercession of your father on your behalf, and you were free from it's stigma.
But, was that free? No, your father had to pay the man for the candy bar, and he had to present restitution before him; HE had to plead YOUR case for YOU. So, while the forgiveness for your crime was free to you, and you even ate the fruits of your crime, enjoyed it even; there indeed was a price paid.
Such is Jesus' work on that Cross. He paid for our sins that we may be made free. But it was not free to Jesus, He paid a mighty cost. The least that we can do is to accept that forgiveness, which He had paid such high and dear price for, and try to sin hardy anymore.
Peace to you, friend. Now go onward, and live a life that you don't have to be ashamed of before our Lord, our God, our Saviour. But when and if you fall, and sin some sins (and you shall err, for we all mess up), then repent of the sin, and stop doing it. Simple, no? Why does man complicate what our Lord, through Himself, has made simple?
Below we see the promise made by God, way back in the Old Testament (Old Covenant-- "Testament" means Covenant--it is a contract, a binding declaration; it is a promise from God to man). And God doesn't lie, "In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began" (Titus 1:2). In His promise below, He tells how that someday He would send a new Covenant (Jesus Christ with the New Testament/Covenant) and that by this Covenant, man could be forgiven of sins. You also notice how God feels about sins that are forgiven (verse 34):
Jer 31:31-34
31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother , saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. KJV
In the New Testament we learn how that the New Covenant was extended to all people who believe upon Jesus Christ.
But since God purposely forgets your repented-for sins, why can't you? The price has been paid. Surely you believe that Christ Jesus paid the full sum, that He paid enough?
Of course He did.
Peace to you, prayer for you; and I'll see you in Heaven some day, God willing; in Jesus Christ!
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Why the seeming similarity to some so-called "Nazi Skin Head" dogma?
A Reader writes:
Nick: I'm a bit surprised by your exposing the Kenite Tyranny. It is exactly the kind of material the Nazi skin-heads use in their campaigns. I get the impression that you do not feel that the people running Israel today are really Jews, not really the offspring of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, in light of Gen12:3. Do you seen them as Kazars and not really Jews?
Answer:
Hello, you said:
"I'm a bit surprised by your exposing the Kenite Tyranny. It is exactly the kind of material the Nazi skin-heads use in their campaigns."
Yes, and don't think that the Judaics don't exploit that similarity. The so-called "Nazi Skin heads" are correct in some things, wrong in others. But then even a broken clock is correct twice each day. I am not a Nazi nor a Skin Head, but what the conspirators (International Jewry) do is lump in the good with the bad as a means to discredit the good. Kind of like getting us to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Pretty smart, aren't they?
It gets 'better.' The so-called "Nazi Skin Head' movement is a plant by Jewry. And it is said that 10% of any given White Separatist movement are "Government" (read Judaic) informers and plants. It is this 10% that does the outlandish things to turn you against their cause. It is all a bogey. These people are genius. Evil, but genius. Never underestimate them. I have several examples of Jews damaging and defacing Jewish graves and then blaming it on big bad racist whiter dudes. It's all a sham. Do you really think that white guys sit around just waiting to tip over a Jewish gravestone, or paint a swastika on a Jewish Synagogue? Please, get real! Don't be so easily led. How intelligent Christians couldn't have seen through that one is beyond me. But then, the Jews do control the medias, so I guess when one is bombarded with lies, he begins to believe them. Someday Christians are going to wake up, Then trouble comes.
You said:
"I get the impression that you do not feel that the people running Israel today are really Jews, not really the offspring of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob"
Well, you have the concept down, but err in your terminology. I am saying that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were not Jews, they were Israelites. The so-called "Jews" today are another people who stole Israel's identity. And now they are systematically going about on a pogrom to destroy the true Israel (the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic & kindred peoples) people today.
You said:
"Do you seen them as Kazars and not really Jews?"
Let me rephrase your question to make it read accurate: The so-called "Jews" of today, 95% of them, are what Jews themselves call "Ashkenazi Jews," and these 95% of all world Jewry are descendants of the Turko-Mongoloid peoples know to history (but extremely suppressed in history books) as the Khazar Jews, or also spelled as Chazar Jews. The remaining 5% of world Jewry is know as the "Sephardic Jews."
And in the State of Israel today, according to Jewish sources, these Sephardic Jews are oppressed by the Ashkenazi majority and are often called "niggers" by the Ashkenazi Jews. Intermarriage between Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews is frowned upon by the Ashkenazi Jews. Also, Sephardic Jews immigrating to Israel are placed behind Ashkenazi immigrants regarding housing and jobs. Israel and the Jews are very racist, when it comes to them; but all of us must be multicultural drones. But you won't read that in the New York Times.
A good book on the subject which is written by a Jew (actually an Ashkenazi Jew who married a Sephardic Jewess), is available as a free-read E-book on our site: The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel
Or, you can try to find the book to buy it: The life of an American Jew in racist Marxist Israel by Jack Bernstein
You might also like my book when it is complete, for I go into all of this.
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Nick Goggin
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Are "they" monitoring the internet?
A reader writes:
"Nick: I wonder how long it will be before people like you and I will become criminals because of the things we talk about through your web site? I think the name "Carnivore" will eventually become the lions for the eventual arena we'll be thrown into! Sound about right?"
ANSWER:
Hi. I believe that Internet is now being monitored to identify dissidents to the NWO. And that someday soon they will turn the Internet off. When the Internet goes down, I would be wary for what is coming right around the corner. Before they can round-up resistors in the first wave, they must shut down the Internet so people don't warn others. When the WWW goes down, they will be out rounding up people.
PS: I did not include this in the reader's original answer, so I hope that he sees it here. But it is said that when they are to do an "arrest" immediately prior to the Tribulation, they will block all cell phone signals right before they make their assault and entry into the premise. A word to the wise: If your cell phone suddenly gets "no signal," and you are a high priority Christian target (a leader type), right before the Tribulation begins: Get out quick. Once arrested, you will most likely never be heard of again. The Judaic "round-up teams" (which are currently training in upstate New York TODAY) will make the Ustashi look like Boy Scouts.
See also our: Internet Website tracking, Red/Blue round-up (arrest) lists, and the Judaic NWO
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