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QUESTION LIST; Page Number 36

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  1. The Russian, Lenin's, Jewish Ancestry: Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, better known as Vladimir Lenin (1870-1924), was of Jewish blood

  2. The Feminist's (both male and female) drive to destroy Apostle Paul and the Scriptures. (Also, a word on the 'lost to history' rape of the prostrated post-WWII German civilians en mass.)

  3. Tithing and offering to Christian ministries; should we?

  4. What does God require of us in the New Testament times?  (Also, Home Communion components and Anointing Oil type)

  5. Can false apostles and false disciples have real power today?  Can they make people actually feel supernatural influences and experiences?  How to discern.  One Christian's experience shared.  An eye-opener!

  6. Scriptural documentation, for parent of teenage daughter, that God requires her virginity until marriage

  7. Is God fair?  Also: Spiritual Bodies vs. Flesh Bodies

  8. Pending"Mansions" in Heaven?

  9. PendingThe Acronym of Jacob/Israel's tomb.  Also, who is Israel and who is Jerusalem in prophecy?

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The Russian, Lenin's, Jewish Ancestry: Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, better known as Lenin (1870-1924), was of Jewish blood


Mike writes:

Hi there,

             Frank Britton in Behind Communism tells us that Mrs. Lenin, aka, Krupaskaya or Krupskaya, was Jewish. Do you have any sources to confirm the point? Everything that I have found on line goes the other way. In fact they all originate from one Usenet exchange which is an unsupported assertion. I you know better it would help.

Yours
Mike xxxxxxx

Answer:

Hi.  below is another mention of Lenin's wife being a Jewess: 

"Well, but there is Lenin,” our Jewish publicists say—“Lenin the head of it all, the brains of it all, and Lenin is a Gentile! We’ve got you there—Lenin is a Gentile!”

Perhaps he is, but why do his children speak Yiddish? Why are his proclamations put forth in Yiddish? Why did he abolish the Christian Sunday and establish by law the Jewish Saturday Sabbath?

The explanation of all this may be that he married a Jewess. The fact is that he did. But another explanation may be that he himself is a Jew. Certainly he is not the Russian nobleman he has always claimed to be. The statements he has made about his identity thus far have been lies. The claim that he is a Gentile may be unfounded too."

--http://www.usa-the-republic.com/international%20jew/The%20All-Jewish%20Mark%20on%20Red%20Russia.htm

 

But I can do you one better.  Lenin himself was a Jew.  In the updated version of the book "Behind Communism", which is not the version that I have on my Website, there is an appendix titled

Treason update Update to 1994
Lenin's Jewish Ancestry. 

I will scan it in below, and will add it to my site later.  I have this newer version in paperback.

 

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Below and at right is from:  Behind Communism, [Fifth printing; ISBN # none. Publisher: Criminal Politics Book Club, P.O. Box 37432, Cincinnati, OH, 45222 1-800-543-0486] by Frank L. Britton, with special update by Lawrence Patterson, Appendix "Treason Update to 1994", pg.103. 

Treason Update to 1994

Jewish takeover in Russia still celebrated in 1994

You may be surprised to know that on November 7, 1994—well after the Soviet Union supposedly ceased to exist—the Judaized Russians still celebrated the 77th Anniversary of the Bolshevik’ Revolution of 1917 by waving red Soviet flags and portraits of Stalin and Lenin. 30,000 people marched through Moscow to the KGB headquarters The anniversary is a state holiday in what is now called the Confederation of Independent States. The “Soviet Union” never ceased to exist, and all planks of the Communist Manifesto are still enforced.

Lenin’s Jewish Ancestry

Since this book was written it has been revealed that the most active leader of the Bolshevik Revolution, Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, better known as Lenin (1870-1924), was of Jewish blood. Writing in the Broward Jewish Journal (2/25/92), Jesse Zel Lurie states that the fact that Lenin “had Jewish grandparents is indisputable,” and that “Lenin’s Jewish ancestry is fully documented.” Lurie further states:

The documentary evidence was published recently in the Moscow News. It was largely ignored, for understandable reasons by the Jewish media. . .
The story of Lenin’s heritage was discovered in the secret files of the Communist Party in Moscow. Lenin’s grandfather, Alexander Blank, had been born to Jewish parents.

 Lenin’s Jewish ancestry was also revealed in the London Jewish Chronicle (April 21, 1995), when it did a review of a recently published biography of Lenin titled, Lenin: A New Biography, by Dmitri Volkogonov (The Free Press, 1994). The article in the Jewish Chronicle stated:

Volkogonov was able to come up with the fact that the founder of the Soviet state was the great-grandson of Moishe ltskovich Blank and the grandson of Srul Moishevich Blank. At his baptism, Blank changed his name and patronymic to Aleksandr (Alexander) Dmitrievich.

Lenin’s Jewish origin on his maternal grandfather’s side became, after his death, a matter of controversy between Lenin’s sisters and Stalin. In a letter to Stalin, Anna, Lenin’s elder sister, wrote: “It is probably no secret for you that the research on our grandfather shows that he came from a poor Jewish family.”

Anna claimed that Lenin’s “exceptional abilities” were a result of his Jewish heritage. She also stated to Stalin that if Lenin’s Jewish background was known, it would “serve in combating anti-Semitism.” Stalin replied: “Not one word about it.” The article further noted that Lenin “praised Jews in somewhat excessive terms, just as he was excessive in his denigration of (white) Russians.” Lenin said that “the clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him.” Lenin also noted the Jews’ greater “steadfastness as revolutionaries” compared to the white Russians. Lenin is often pictured in a side profile view to hide the Oriental feature of his eyes (see page 34). Lenin, Trotzky and Stalin all agreed that it was vital that Communism not appear as a Jewish scheme. ― Behind Communism, [Fifth printing; ISBN # none. Publisher: Criminal Politics Book Club, P.O. Box 37432, Cincinnati, OH, 45222 1-800-543-0486] by Frank L. Britton, with special update by Lawrence Patterson, Appendix "Treason Update to 1994", pg.103.

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 Can you share with me what you have found, with citation? 

Thanks.

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God bless the study of His Word, in Jesus Christ's name!
Nick Goggin
 

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The Feminist's (both male and female) drive to destroy Apostle Paul and the Scriptures. (Also, a word on the 'lost to history' rape of the prostrated post-WWII German civilians en mass.)

 

Writer #1 (female) says:

"I think the accumulation of the evidence proves that [Apostle] Paul was not at all against women teaching or preaching. Either he was speaking to specific congregations where this would pose a problem, or it could make trouble for the churches in that day and age. But what he writes and does elsewhere contradicts those words."

Writer #2 (also female) says:

"Good job [to Writer #1 (female)] !

12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

And the two shall be one.

We are all the bride of Christ so we are all women and only Christ is the Man of the house who is to teach.

So weather a man or a women is doing the speaking it is Christ the MAN who is really the teacher even though He is using His bride to do the talking by the Holy Spirit.

So yes only THE MAN is doing the speaking but using HIS bride to be the vessel that HIS word is coming through weather that bride is male or female it doesn't matter. "

Writer #3 (also female) says:

"Hi Xxxxxxxx,

>> Either he [Apostle Paul] was speaking to specific congregations where this would pose a problem, or it could make trouble for the churches in that day and age.

I can see the likelihood in that concerning the various audiences, yet I consider he meant that as his personal opinion because of the "I suffer not..." passage. Whereas usually on such important matters, there's a Thus saith the LORD, It is written, or Behold, the LORD says somewhere in there. Like you, I don't believe him to have been against women at all."

Writer # 4 (male) writes:

"12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

This comes from [Apostle] Paul as his own personal opinion. That does not automatically mean it is a commandment from God. Paul is known to add his own opinion into his writings, which as a wise man of that day it is perfectly ok for him to share his own personal wisdom but he is clear to say "I suffer" this and not the "Lord suffers" not a woman to teach."

Writer #2 (female) again writes:

"Here are all the places that Bishops/Bishop is found in the Bible. 7 times..... Notice that it is only used in the New Testament. Here is the reason for why...."
 

 WBSG Comment:  And these four are all CHRISTIANS, who claim to believe that the Bible is the written Word of God!  They then go on in lengthy manner to say why the Bible isn't saying what it does say, and why Apostle Paul couldn't have meant what he did mean!  It is the same type of 'liberty" taken with the truth that has caused so many before her to fall.  People are stubborn, I suppose; but you can't cut and paste, dice and mix the Word of God―either it is to followed, or it isn't.  And just because some women have been corrupted by the spirit of this age, does not mean that they have the right to take clear concise Scriptures and dream them away.  We used to have mothers, wives and daughters, now we have far too many Zena; Warrior Princesses.  Zena is the Lesbian hero of a popular fantasy television show bearing her name.  For over a decade now, young girls have grown up watching her dominate and beat up lesser men.  This effects a change in a young girls developing ideals system.  This is what is called a "change agent," it is an agent for social and societal change.  Satan must accomplish this if he is prostrate the world.  And this is all by grant design.  In real life, a "Zena" would live approximately thirty seconds on a medieval battle field; but "reality" is not the foundation that our modern young women are being nursed on.

Old women today must marvel at the audacity of today's younger women (and by "younger," I mean 40 years old and less―the first batch of victims of the 1960's Judaic social experiment), and I would imagine that the older ladies see the danger looming on the horizon for the young girls of today.  Who do you think that these Feminists are going to turn to in the Great Tribulation, where all must obey or die, where human life means nothing?  To the Lesbian Community?  To tramps like the Jane Fonda's of this world (read her new book!)?  To Oprah?  To N.O.W. (the National Organization of Women)?  Hardly, these have all been agents of change themselves.  And they have been and are now still being used as useful idiots to destroy man through his woman--just like satan did Adam through Eve.  There is nothing new under the sun (in the world)!

Ecclesiastes 1:9-11
9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.  KJV

Yes, our Eve's are a forgetful lot!  But they shall remember, in a instant they shall remember, when it comes upon this world, and they see that they who were to nurture the world, helped her to destroy herself.  Women of today who are running around "roaring" and feminizing their men, are going to run under the nearest armpit of a man when the Tribulation commences and the riots and looting and raping mobs set in, making way for the last gasps of the Deadly Wound of this world as it rebirths into antichrist's hell-hole.  There will no Feminists by day two of the Great Tribulation.  They are all full of crap, and they are falsehood, vanity, and lies―three distinct thumbprints of the father of lies, satan.    Feminism itself, which is the usurping of authority from the male by the supposedly superior feminine mystic, can only exist in a society: built, prepared, fashioned, ordered, protected, and policed by men!  The Feminist's whole premise is a lie. 

     There weren't many women playing feminist in the wilderness, in the founding and trek West of the Americas, nor in ANY war torn area (think Russia, 1917, when the Jewish Bolsheviks overthrew Christian Russia and raped and murdered 60 million Christians, male and females; think Germany, 1939, when the Nazi machine went to war; and again in Germany when the Jews raped the country in 1945 after the allies subdued it for them (German women have been the focus of Jewish hate for the longest time!  After WWII, many many German women were forced sex slaves working in Jewish Brothels under threat of death!  But you never heard that, did you!  Too busy bewailing the Jewish, greatly over-exaggerated fate.), and in Bosnia where the women of the villages are raped routinely by third-world ignorant and savage United Nations "Peace Keepers" (the USA footing the lion's share of the budget); and in Iraq today, etc. et al).  When civilization and social order break down, women come to the startling fact of their lot in life.  They are always victims of both the victors and losers of all wars.  They rise to power only when their men do, and when their men are defeated, they are prostituted and raped, as happened in Germany after the Jews dissected the prostrated once-Christian nation. 

You never heard the sad fate of the German peasant after the war, did you?  Here, how many of you reading this today have ever heard on the below facts?

"...in November 1946, almost two years after the conclusion of the war [WWII], that Russia has 3,500,000 German prisoners, France 1,000,000, and the British 500,000.  These are slaves performing slave labor upon starvation rations.  It is improbable that this number is still alive [this written in 1950; WWII ended in 1944!], for it is the plan of the Communists [Jews] to either destroy the German people or convert them to Bolshevism [Judaic Communism―Marxism]; this is the [Jewish] Morganthau plan*.  It is in flagrant violation of the Geneva Convention and an offense against decency, humanity and civilization.  It is estimated, January 1, 1950, that the Bolsheviks [the Jewish party controlling Russia since the 1917 (Jewish) Bolshevik Revolution] have more than1,000,000 Japanese prisoners."  ― The Zionists, chapter 10; "Zionist Victory and the Nuremburg Trial" by Geo W. Armstrong, 1950; ppg. 111-112. (no ISBN#).

*  "[US] Treasury Secretary Henry Morganthau Jr [under the administration of crypto-Jew President Franklin Delano Roosevelt (real family name Rosenvelt)*] . . . .  Morganthau wrote in his diary how Rabbi Avraham Kalmanowitz 'wept and wept and wept' in his office. After one meeting with Orthodox leaders, Morganthau commented, 'Gentlemen, I knew I was born a Jew. Now I know I am a Jew. What can I do for you?' " ―  Jewish Media Resources "A historian finally acknowledges history"  by Jonathan Rosenblum. Hamodia, August 13, 2003. http://www.jewishmediaresources.org/article/619/

* The New York Times of March 14, 1935, quotes the President as saying: "In the distant past my ancestors may have been Jews. All I know about the origin of the Roosevelt family is that they are apparently descended form Claes Martenszen van Roosevelt, who came from Holland."

In the 1938 "World Almanac" under the heading "Biographies of U.S. Presidents and their wives," page 237, appears: "Franklin Delano Roosevelt was the son of James Roosevelt, a direct descendant of Claes Martenzen van Rosenvelt, who arrived in New Amsterdam in 1649 and married Jannetje Samuels.

On and on this could go!
 

     The result of Morganthau's question to his powerful rabbi lobbyists, of, "What can I do for you?";  was millions of expelled, enslaved, raped, and murdered Christian Germans.  After the war, entire German families were kicked out of their homes (and their country for East Germans); and their homes, replete with their life's possessions, were given lock-stock-and-barrel to Jews.  Were you aware of that?  I bet not.  Search the internet.

     These weren't Nazis, they were German civilians!  Imagine is we did this to the Iraqi people today in Gulf War II!  But the average reader has never heard the above facts.  Waiting to here it from the Judaic controlled media, are you?  Nor did your traitoress coward University Instructors dare tell you the truth.  May God remember them at the time, and reward them their deserves!

(I know, 'topic-drift.'  A little more, and I'll get back to the Feminists; but this stuff is important for you to know.)

     "But, why would it matter if President Roosevelt was Jewish", some may ask?  Because, we (the allies) were dragged into a war that killed millions of people.  The only purpose of this war to establish the outlaw modern day State of Israel.  "So", some would say, "what have Jews to do with this?"  Hitler was 1/4 Jewish (Rothschild).  U.S. President Roosevelt was Jewish (Rosenvelt) [Over the years, the Roosevelt family has used  other surnames, such as Rosenberg，Rosenbaum，Rosenbarium，Rosevelt. He may be a distant cousin of Hillary Rodham (Rosenberg) Clinton].  President Roosevelt's ally across the sea in England was the Jewish Winston (Jacobson) Churchill.  In fact, the main players in WW II were all Crypto (secret) Jews, as was much of their cabinet, including Hitler's:

Jewish WWII Leaders (CryptoJews―i.e., Secret Jews)

England
Winston Churchill (Jacobson)
Jewish Mother: Jenny (Jacobson) Jerome

United States
Franklin Roosevelt (Rosenvelt)
1st traceable Jewish ancestor: Claes Martenzan van Rosenvelt

Russia
Josef Stalin
(Joseph David Djugashvili)Djugashvili means "Jewison"

Germany
Adolph Hitler (Rothschild)
Father: Alois Hiedler. Jewish Grandfather: Barron Salomon Mayer Rothschild

 

Probable Jewish high ranking Nazis

     But back to the victim German people.  The civilians of German desent were just as much a victim of the Nazi Party as many others were.  Do you blame yourself for the invasion of Iraq just because you are an American?  Why then blame the German citizen for the invasion of Poland (to start WWII)?  And how few people even know what was done to the German citizens by the Judaics after the war???  Even fewer care, though the majority of Anglo Americans have at least some German blood in their heritage―these were their distant relatives.  

 

     A US guard looks over fenced off holding areas, holding thousands of German prisoners, exposed to elements. (Inset inset into picture above is the cover of Saturday Night magazine regarding the subject).  below is a U.S. soldier's eye-witness testimony:

"Starting in April 1945, the United States Army and the French Army casually annihilated one million [German] men, most of them in American camps . . . Eisenhower's hatred, passed through the lens of a compliant military bureaucracy, produced the horror of death camps unequalled by anything in American history . . . an enormous war crime." ― Col. Ernest F. Fisher, PhD Lt.; 101 st Airborne Division, Senior Historian, United States Army.

     Oh, did I mention: Eisenhower was also a Crypto-Jew Judaic President of the U.S..  Dwight David Jacob Eisenhower was Jewish, Born in Denison, Texas in 1890, his father was David Jacob "Eisenhower," although his mother was a Stover before marriage. His hatred of the Germans, and his murder of over a million of them he held prisoner AFTER WW II is all that is needed to fill in the blanks.  His predecessor, Harry S. (For Solomon) Truman was also a Judaic (And Abraham Lincoln, Bill Clinton, George Bush, Bush Jr.; they are all related to the Jewish power elite.  And there are more....).  Why do you think that you can't talk about "Jews"?  And Eisenhower being Jewish also explains this (which I'm sure you History teacher in the Judaic-controlled School systems forget to mention, mine forgot to mention to me in school; if he even knows it!):


In 'Eisenhower's Death Camps': A U.S. Prison Guard's Story, by Martin Brech, U.S. Army.

"In October, 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the U.S. army.  . . . In late March or early April, 1945, I was sent to guard a POW camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was forbidden. Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret out members of the S.S. (I found none.). . . . In Andernach about 50,000 prisoners of all ages were held in an open field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate enclosure I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no shelter and no blankets; many had no coats. They slept in the mud, wet and cold, with inadequate slit trenches for excrement. It was a cold, wet spring and their misery from exposure alone was evident.

"...Even more shocking was to see the prisoners throwing grass and weeds into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this to help ease their hunger pains. Quickly, they grew emaciated. Dysentery raged, and soon they were sleeping in their own excrement, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches. Many were begging for food, sickening and dying before our eyes. We had ample food and supplies, but did nothing to help them, including no medical assistance.  Outraged, I protested to my officers and was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they explained they were under strict orders from "higher up."

"...When I threw this food over the barbed wire to the prisoners, I was caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the "offense," and one officer angrily threatened to shoot me. I assumed this was a bluff until I encountered a captain on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, Why?," he mumbled, "Target practice," and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn't tell if any had been hit.

"...This is when I realized I was dealing with cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered the Germans subhuman and worthy of extermination; another expression of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper, Stars and Stripes, played up the German concentration camps, complete with photos of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and civilians.

"...Shortly afterwards, some of our weak and sickly prisoners were marched off by French soldiers to their camp. We were riding on a truck behind this column. Temporarily, it slowed down and dropped back, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was. Whenever a German prisoner staggered or dropped back, he was hit on the head with a club until he died. The bodies were rolled to the side of the road to be picked up by another truck. For many, this quick death might have been preferable to slow starvation in our "killing fields."

"...When I finally saw the German women in a separate enclosure, I asked why we were holding them prisoner. I was told they were "camp followers," selected as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. I spoke to some and must say I never met a more spirited or attractive group of women. I certainly didn't think they deserved imprisonment.

"...Hunger made German women more "available," but despite this, rape was prevalent and often accompanied by additional violence. In particular I remember an eighteen-year old woman who had the side of her faced smashed with a rifle butt and was then raped by two G.I.s. Even the French complained that the rapes, looting and drunken destructiveness on the part of our troops was excessive. In Le Havre, we'd been given booklets warning us that the German soldiers had maintained a high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.

"...I realize it is difficult for the average citizen to admit witnessing a crime of this magnitude, especially if implicated himself. Even G.I’s sympathetic to the victims were afraid to complain and get into trouble, they told me. And the danger has not ceased." ― In 'Eisenhower's Death Camps': A U.S. Prison Guard's Story, by Martin Brech.  Source: Reprinted from The Journal of Historical Review, vol. 10, no. 2, pp. 161-166.  (http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/us_war_crimes/Eisenhowers_death_camps.htm)


     The above was Jewish vengeance ("Never Forgive, Never Forget"), extracted upon innocent German prisoners by the lackey Allies, controlled from the top by Crypto Jews.  And that was just what we did.  And in America we were having parades.  And the Jewish controlled Russian Red Army was not as kind as the American and French German POW camps (to put it mildly).

     I'll tell you this:  the German people are waking up from a bad dream to day, and they are learning the truth about why Jewry has done to them.  The Russian peoples are waking up as well, for the have been raped, most brutally by the Jewish Bolsheviks who stole their country in a revolution in 1917.  This all may be the forerunner of the Deadly Wound to come.  And when Americans (where most all American Caucasians have at least some German or kindred blood in them) wake up―then International Jewry is going to have a real problem on their hands.  And while Canada and Great Brittan are solidly under control politically by the Judaics, as also is the USA and Australia politically infiltrated to the state of political and financial prostration―there are growing Nationalist Movements in these countries as well.  And all Judaic efforts thus far have been unable to suppress them. 

     In fact, the more contrived and absurd so-called "Hate Crime" and nonsensical "AntiSemitism" Laws that they institute globally―the more nationalists they create.  People want to be free, especially the Caucasian true people of Israel―the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, and kindred peoples.  The Judaics are waking up a very capable and angry bear, and that bear is beginning to realize that International Jewry has stolen and killed her cubs.  That is not good for the Judaics, obviously; since they only make-up .2% (12-18 million) of the planets inhabitants (6.4 Billion), and just three percent, I believe, of all Americans.  Which leads me to believe that this may cause a bump-up in the Judaic timetable for global Marshal Law. 

     Which will lessen it's (Martial Law's) effectiveness, as they do not have all the pieces in place; not least of all, they failed a decade ago to accomplish disarming the American citizen.  That shall be their downfall in America. (Both Canada, England, and Australia are a disarmed citizenry.)   Which means that they then might feel compelled to just vaporize us; as they have the finger that rests on the red button in Russia, Israel, China, and the USA, under there undisputed control.

     So don't worry about Iran Nukes, or North Korean, Pakistan, India, etc., Nukes―worry about U.S. and Russian Nukes, not to mention Israel and China's!  Not that I see widespread nuclear warfare, mind you; but perhaps localized strikes.  The city of Damascus, Syria, for example, is a prime candidate for nuclear destruction.

Judaic Power Men
M. Chertoff V. Lenin

     And once Martial Law is initiated, all ostensive authority leaves the President's hand, Congress is dismissed, and the Constitution suspended; and all power goes into the hand of one Judaic U.S.A. Homeland Security Chief (Michael Chertoff).  Comforting, is it not?  What's worse, is that due to so-called "global Islamic terrorism," Chertoff has counterparts in every free Western nation with similar "Homeland Security offices."  As we speak, F.E.M.A. is preparing the civilian prison camps and the underground bunkers.  (Only 10% of FEMA funding is used on disaster relief.  Gee, what do you suppose that they are doing with the other 90%?  They sure aren't giving it back!  In the 2005 budget, FEMA requested $5.5 billion, and Homeland Security requested $40.2 billion (that's a lot of Hurricanes and Airport Screeners!)  Are things beginning to fall in place for you yet, reader?  Can you say T H E  G R E A T  T R I B U L A T I O N ?  In America, FEMA and Homeland Security are to be the internal security apparatus to enslave the populace (Canada is allied, and Mexico can't be from coming on-board―can you say NAFTA and CAFTA?).  FEMA and the Homeland Security Office have nothing to do with Hurricane so-and-so, nor with ignorant unkempt barefoot third world morons, Akmad or Mohammed; who couldn't blow up too much more than themselves, much less hijack four jumbo jetliners, and blow into the United States Pentagon Building and BOTH main New York Trade Towers―simultaneously!

     And it is not a good thing if the Judaics begin to feel threatened and exposed, which they are becoming (evidenced by the legion of "AntiSemitism," "Holocaust Denial," and "Hate Crime" bills being enacted in every country they own―i.e., globally).  They are highly intelligent, the Judaics must grasp the concept that if they do not implement the final phase of their take-over soon, they shall face a growing resistance that is daily becoming more educated and more united (and more armed)―Internationally.  Remember, the Judaics had thought that the 1917 takeover of Russia would start the dominos falling.  But Hitler, as rotten as he was, stopped the spread of Global Communism dead in it's tracks.  Good can come out of bad sometimes.

Anyway, something to watch, Christian!

And you aren't going to be able to watch it on the nightly news.  The Jewish controlled media isn't going to let you become in the know!

Back to the prostrate German people at the close of WWII.

     Did anyone even ask about what we were dong to the survivors of the war?  No, everybody forgot about them, after all, "they all threw Jews into ovens" and all Germans were in the Nazi political party, right?  Wake up and deal with reality and not Judaic lies.  Do you know that it was in Germany that Martin Luther sparked the Great Reformation?  And that Germany was peopled from members of the "lost" tribes of Israel, and are in reality, are among the true "Israel people"?

     No, most people hear of Germany and think of "Nazi," and "Holocaust," and the "satanic attack on 'God's Chosen People'."   Did you know that today's so-called self-styled "Jews", whom Jesus speaks of thusly: "...I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan" (Rev 2:9),  are not hardly the least bit Hebrew?  And that they have little to no Israel blood in their veins?  And that they are impostors from the Stepps of Russia and are of the bloodlines of the Turks and Mongoloids, and not from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, of the Bible, as they claim?  And that there were many Jews in the Nazi Party High Command, and the Holocaust was grossly over-exaggerated for War Reparation$ profiteering $$$ which is still going on today, some 60 years later?  Yeah, that gives new meaning to the Jewish credo, "Never Forget"!  (Actually, the whole phrase originally goes like this: "Never Forgive, Never Forget,"  but they clean it up when they say in in front of the Goyim).  But anyway, are you starting to see why  International Jewry had to destroy Christian Germany and the once-Christian German people at all costs?

Am I upsetting you yet?  I mean to.

     Back to "Zena," and our Feminist and Homosexual Useful idiots.  One of a long line of great symbols that teach disobedient women to become perverse is Zena.  She (the mythical Zena) has been adopted as a "mascot" by the popular Lesbian Front (and the actress who plays her part in the series is herself a Lesbian).  And many Lesbians sport a tattoo of her image on their bodies (which bodies they [Lesbians] defile between themselves as Paul would warn in Romans 1:24-26).  "Oh, but that old Paul was just so old fashioned", the disobedient would say.  Well, wait till you see how "old fashioned" God is on Judgement Day!

Romans 1:24-27
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.  KJV

     Am I saying that gays and Lesbians are perverted?  Yeeaaaahh....Duh!  But my opinion is valueless; the principle thing should be that God's Word is saying that they are.  Now perhaps you can see why the Lesbian and Feminist "communities" (New Age buzzword) must at all costs discredit Apostle Paul and 2/3rds of the New Testament (which he wrote under Divine Inspiration of God, I might add!).  That is what is happening here today, my friend; nothing less!  this is about suppressing intelligent women, if your a smart woman, be one; what's the problem with that?  This (Feminism) was never about equal pay and breaking "glass ceilings."  Don't be so simple, please.  Look at the bigger picture, look deeper into the rabbit hole, there's more there than a nest.  There is not a "chauvinistic" man alive who would deny a capable woman equal pay for an equal days work.  It is all a ruse to whip women into a rebellious frenzy.  But this is rather about the wrecking of God's ordered world.  First satan turned out Eve, and now through his Judaic change agents, satan has accomplished in turning out the majority of the female victims of the 1960's desecrations.  First they burned their bras, and thought that they were liberating themselves, now they are burning their Bibles, thinking to liberate us all.  The last thing to the fire is themselves.  How could they have fallen for it!

     May I introduce you to something?
 

Introducing:

 Our World, A.D. 2005
 

     Have you met her; I mean our world today?  Have you taken a good look at her lately?  In the below, Paul describes our world to a 'Tee', as it is TO DAY.  In Paul's warning (actually prophecy) below, you can see the sorry result of each and every social agenda that the Judaics have foisted upon us as a society.  No wonder the Feminists, Lesbians, and other silly easily misled women; as well as the Gays; and the Judaics; and the Liberals (which are really just those possessing Jewish mind and thought processes, whether Jew or not); and every other selfish special interest group on the Earth today trying to take their piece of the pie from the middle, to the hurt of all the rest: all together at once hate Apostle Paul, and all work feverishly to mute his writings!  He exposes them, that's why they hate him.  There is no room in their New World for anything absolute, unyielding, like a Paul, or a Jesus Christ, or a Bible, or a God even.  You really have to pay attention to what is written in the Bible, it is written millennia ago about the future (our present):

Romans 1:21-32
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore [for this reason] God also [in return] gave them up [recompensed the disobedient into their disobiediance] to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who [these disobedient souls] changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause [this why God allowed them to fall into hells innumerable] God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature [female homosexuality―Lesbianism]:
27 And likewise also [as the women, so too would] the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly [male homosexuality, the sin that brought down ancient Greece and Rome*], and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as  they did not like [likewise as they desired] to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.  KJV

* Historical downfall of Homosexual Societies,
by Senator Robert Byrd
floor of Congress, 1996

"Indeed as history teaches us too often in the past, when cultures waxed casual about the uniqueness and sanctity of the marriage commitment between men and women, those cultures have been shown to be in decline. This was particularly true in the ancient world in Greece and, more particularly, in Rome. In both Greece and Rome, same-sex relationships were not uncommon.

"...Suetonius, the Roman biographer, relates that Julius Caesar prostituted his body to be abused by King Nicomedes of Bithynia, and that Curio the Elder, in an oration, called Caesar 'a woman for all men and a man for all women.'

"While same-sex relations were not unknown, therefore, to the ancients, same-sex marriages were a different matter. But they did sometimes involve utilization of the forms and the customs of heterosexual marriage. For example, the Emperor Nero, who reigned between 54 and 68 A.D., took the marriage vows with a young man named Sporus, in a very public ceremony, with a gown and a veil and with all of the solemnities of matrimony, after which Nero took this Sporus with him, carried on a litter, all decked out with ornaments and jewels and the finery normally worn by empresses, and traveled to the resort towns in Greece and Italy, Nero, 'many a time, sweetly kissing him.'"  ― Honorable Senator Robert Byrd speaking on behalf of the "Defense of Marriage Act."  Cataloged in the Congressional Record, "Proceedings and Debates of the 104th Congress, Second Session" Vol. 142. Washington, Sept. 10, 1996; No. 123.

    Not a very nice epitaph on the once-Christian West, is it?  The reason that Zena appeals to the Lesbian community is that she represents, to them, the complete woman, quite self-sufficient without man.  In the show (indoctrination platform), the only men that Zena interacts with―she is dominant over.  "Girl-power" gone mad! 

     For this reason Zena also appeals to the Feminist community.  The Feminist and Lesbian communities are sister organizations, all coming under the same hidden head of the international Jewish social-disorder campaign.  Later in this article we see that there are also male Feminists.  Yep, I kid you not!  Though they would probably rather be referred to as "progressive" (another New Age buzz-word).

     And speaking of new Age buzz-words, there are many phrases that we abopt and we do not know why.  Take the common phrase, "Unity in Diversity".  Think about that last phrase, which the New Worlder's bandy about every day.  They even have us parroting, or at least buying into the philosophy that "Unity in Diversity", and "Our strength comes from our diversity" shall save us as a society and as a world.  Oh, will it really?  Is diversity our "strength?  Jesus said that a house divided cannot stand:

Matthew 12:25
25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:  KJV

     Then how is "diversity" (divisions) our strength?  It isn't, it's a stupid buzz-word taught to stupid people to cause them to willingly allow themselves willingly be be divided and conquered by the Judaic world masters.  No society in the annals of time has ever survived once she ceased being became homogenous and commenced being heterogeneous.  That is why the Judaics are foisting all of this "new" Liberal thought upon us; to destroy us from within.

ho·mo·ge·ne·ous  adj.
1. Of the same or similar nature or kind: "a tight-knit, homogeneous society" (James Fallows).
2. Uniform in structure or composition throughout.
3. Mathematics Consisting of terms of the same degree or elements of the same dimension.

het·er·o·ge·ne·ous  adj.
1. also het·er·og·e·nous (hĕt′ə-rŏjə-nəs) Consisting of dissimilar elements or parts; not homogeneous. See Synonyms at miscellaneous.
2. Completely different; incongruous.

     In other words, once a civilization or empire became mixed with other peoples, other cultures, other religions, and other value systems―they all died.  Museums host their remains.  That is where the (once)-Christian Western nations are swiftly heading―the museums of the New World Order!  And behind every facet of this transformation with find the influential Judaic, financing it, suing for it court, controlling popular opinion for it through their absolute Media domination, and imposing it by laws made by Judges that no one voted for, but who lick the Kosher (Jewish) hand for their position, prestige and power.  The "rabbit hole" goes far deeper than any suspect.  And this final Judaic onslaught against humanity shall become known to Christians as the beginning of sorrows, the beginning of the Great Tribulation which Messiah Jesus Christ foretold of.  And it shall be global in scale, swallowing up all; not just Christians, but Muslims, non-complicit Jews, Hindus, Atheists; everybody everywhere who believes anything, or believes nothing.  No one can resist the beast when she rises; and arising it is:

Revelation 13:4-9
4 And they worshipped the dragon [antichrist/satan] which gave power unto the beast [the "New World" order]: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. [hopefully your name is written therein!]
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.  KJV

     And regarding Writer #2's, "only in the New Testament", comment; I would ask her: "As though that flaws it?!?" 

     The office of Bishop is, "only in the New Testament", because Bishop (and Deacon and Pastor) are CHRISTIAN religious offices.  The Pagans and the Catholics have "priests", the Jews have "rabbis", the Muslims have "imams", etc.  What the Writer #2 above does not seem to be grasping is that an entirely new religion is introduced in the NT (New Testament), and that it fulfilled the religion of the OT (Old Testament).  The Old Testament religion of the Hebrews NO LONGER EXISTS, it was fulfilled (completed) in Jesus Christ.  Any who try to follow the religion of the Old Testament are following a dead religion.  Had there been life in the Law (OT), Christ needed not die (NT).

In the OT religion of the Hebrews, they were to sacrifice animals for the sins of the people, in the NT religion, Jesus Christ became that once for all time sacrifice.  To sacrifice an animal today is to blaspheme God, not to receive any forgiveness from Him.

People must rightly divide the Bible by covenants.  God Himself speaking as Jesus Christ in the flesh declared that the Old Covenant (old Hebrew religion) is no more, and that it has superseded and replaced by Christianity, the new Covenant.

Disobedient women are now also willing to disannul the new Covenant to keep their "girl-power" fantasies alive (the "you go girl" syndrome ― compliments of the Pied-Piper New Age occultist Oprah).  So for them, it may be annulled.  But at what price "liberation"!  What?  You're free to go to hell?  "I am woman, hear me roar"?  There shall be a lot of "roaring" going on at the Second Advent in the New Age woman-power cults, where the "feminine divine" is the new god, and Yehovah (the Lord God) is a bigot and unfair, Apostle Paul a mesceginist (woman hater), and Jesus Christ was the husband of Mary Magdalene and a part time lover of the Apostle John!  Get yourselves to hell quickly, disobiediant witches, before you infect the few decent God fearing women left in this world!

My closing thoughts on the matter, for the reader's inspection:

    There are some things that I feel need to be addressed; not the least of all, the new twist from the writer's quoted by me at the start of this article.  They are saying that what we read there is simply Apostle Paul's little old personal opinion, and that, I quote [name omitted (male)], "One must discern between opinion and cultural ways of the past and things commanded by God." whilst reading our Bibles.  That is not how I learned to read my Bible.

    That is a slippery slope.  Does every thing that we "don't like" in the Bible, simply become the personal opinion of the human author of the Epistle?

    I have been following th line of thought of people such as those mentioned above.  I have seen where Deborah (Jud chapt. 4) is trust forward as justification to disannul Paul's MANY words on the rightful place of a woman under her man, and how that through her experiences, today's woman is somehow allowed by "Divine mandate" to usurp authority in the house of her husband and worse, in the house of her God.  But it is all smoke and mirrors.  Deborah was not a priest, Deborah was a civil leader, in a government close to collapsing, I might add.  Deborah was were she was because there wasn't a man fit to lead, they had all become panty-waists, they all became cowardly liberal disobeyers' of God; and we are not far from that same place today.

    And Priscilla (Acts chpt. 18).  What of her?  Sure, she no doubt was a decent woman, and one that I would have liked to have met.  But she is never mentioned without her husband, so how can she be the model of a leader?  She is a man's wife, she was not his head.  Nor obviously was she the head of that household.  That is her identity in the Bible.  Without him, she's not mentioned.  Maybe she cooked while her old man preached in their house.  She is first mentioned, and we are introduced to her by the Holy Spirit as being Aquila's wife; not some deacon of a church, not some leader of men, and certainly not the model of today's disobedient woman:

Acts 18:2
2 And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy, with his wife Priscilla ; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart from Rome:) and came unto them.  KJV

    Priscilla is mentioned exactly one five times in the Holy Scriptures.  Above was the first, and introduces her; below is the second:

Acts 18:18
18 And Paul after this tarried there yet a good while, and then took his leave of the brethren, and sailed thence into Syria, and with him Priscilla and Aquila; having shorn his head in Cenchrea: for he had a vow.  KJV

    Here we see that her husband had a (religious) vow.  But she did not.  Yet angry (Christian) feminists seek to make a virtual priest out of her.

    The one passage that "they" love to trust forward is the below.  In this Scripture the feminists like to point out that it says "that THEY expounded the Scriptures," meaning both Aquila AND Priscilla.  But that is not what it is declaring.  In the Greek, the words "they," "took," & "unto" are one Greek word (the "they" being added to prevent a noun verb disagreement).  And the word "them" is not in the text (being added for readability).  So while "they" might have brought the man home, it does not say that Priscilla did any teaching.  Observe:

Acts 18:26
26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.  KJV

"they took unto"  Greek word #4355  proslambano (pros-lam-ban'-o); from NT:4314 and NT:2983; to take to oneself, i.e. use (food), lead (aside), admit (to friendship or hospitality):  KJV - receive, take (unto).

"them"  Greek word #9999 [i.e., none]  NOTE: inserted word (x); This word was added by the translators for better readability in the English. There is no actual word in the Greek text. The word may be displayed in italics, or in parentheses or other brackets, to indicate that it is not in the original text.

    The final forth and fifth passage where Priscilla is mentioning gives us no authority to call her a preacher or a leader of any church, much less of her own home even:

Romans 16:3
3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:  KJV

1 Corinthians 16:19
19 The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.  KJV

    And what of Jesus Christ, did He ordain women over men.  Hardly!  When He spoke to the woman by the well, He stopped short and told her to go run and fetch her husband.

John 4:11-16
11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?
12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:
14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
15 The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw.
16 Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.  KJV

    And the word "prophetess," surely this means that women can lead churches, does it not?  Nope, not at all.  One Scripture cannot disannul another one.  To make woman the head over the man, and to make her the head in the church, is to make Paul a liar.  And if you make Paul a liar, you make 2/3rds of the New Testament a lie, for he wrote it   And you take down also Peter and John and Jesus who corroborated Paul's Divine work.

(That is really what is behind the Judaic-run Feminist Movement; and foolish neo-Christian women pitch a hand in to help!  Betraying theior own Messiah even, not to mention their men; and by default, their children.)

    Also, note that Paul quotes the Old Testament hundreds of times, so throw that all out too.  What's left then?  I'll tell you what's left, the Noahide Laws!  Look for it coming to your world very soon.  You Christians among you shall learn to call it the Great Tribulation.  And believe you me, there shall be nary a Feminist in power when satan sets up his false Kingdom on this Earth.  Feminists and other disobedient and whorish women and merely pawns in satan's game against God; "useful idiots" their Judaic handlers call them.

"But I was only burning a bra."  Honey, you burned far more than a bra that day.  But why go there now?  Who the heck is going to listen, anyway!  I am repulsive to the new order.

    What is a 'prophet" and "prophetess"?  They are simply human beings that speak the words of the Lord.  Many have prophesied that were not priests, nor were they heads of congregations.

Moving on...

[Writer #4 (male)] writes regarding 1st Timothy 2:12-14:

Quote:

"12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

This comes from Paul as his own personal opinion. That does not automatically mean it is a commandment from God. Paul is known to add his own opinion into his writings, which as a wise man of that day it is perfectly ok for him to share his own personal wisdom but he is clear to say "I suffer" this and not the "Lord suffers" not a woman to teach."

     Surely not liking it, he left off verse 11, which states, "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection."  But following the writer's line of reasoning, I have a question: What then became of the below declaration:

2 Peter 1:18-21
18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.  KJV

    Was this Peter just having a "bad opinion" day?  Writer #4 above, feeds into the feminist frenzy that is storming upon the Christian world by comparing Paul's teaching of: "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man" to the below scripture:

[Writer #4 (male)] writes again, comparing 1st Timothy 2:12-14 to 1st Corinthians 7:6-9:

"1 Corinthians 7:6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.
1 Corinthians 7:7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
1 Corinthians 7:8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.
1 Corinthians 7:9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

This is Paul's opinion only. It does not come from the Lord as a commandment to not marry."

    I would tread lightly calling Paul a "adder to Scripture."  And if you notice, the Holy Spirit gave Paul permission to state it; i.e., "1 Corinthians 7:6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment. ".  Thereby placing the thumbprint of God upon it.  Was it a commandment?  No, and I think that Paul did a very good job in making that crystal clear.

    But there is a world of difference between these two passages, so much so that they cannot be looked at in the same light.  In this first, Paul is making a declaration to the church that he had founded.  He is their human spiritual head, he built that church at the hand of God.  So yes, he refers to himself as being the speaker; i.e., "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence".  How many times may you yourself say, "I don't think that you should be cheating on your husband, because that is the damnable offence of adultery."  Now then, did you simply give your opinion, or where you relaying the commands of God?  But you said, "I don't think..."

    Paul was teaching, Paul was writing the Epistle under the direct inspiration of the Holy Spirit of God.  Read Paul's entire exhortation which contains the "offensive" statement.  Does the below sound like Paul is just dilly-dallying around with his own frail opinions?

1 Timothy 2:7-3:2
7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.
8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

1 Timothy 3
3:1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;  KJV

    Now, regarding the second Scripture that the writer brought into this in an attempt to nullify the, "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence", passage:  Below, Paul is very clear that he is giving human advice.  And the advice is true.  Paul is giving true and good advise, and he is very clear where his advice starts and where the Lord's Word begins.  But Paul was moved to speak these words by the Holy Spirit.  Is not the entire Bible God inspired text?

    Ever been in love?  I mean, really in love; hardcore butterflies in the stomach type love.  What happens when a man or woman falls in love?  Does not their closeness and dedication to the Lord suffer slightly?  Of course it does, for:

1 Corinthians 7:34
34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.  KJV

    But God isn't mad about that, because He built us to bond that deeply.  He is a jealous God, yes; but He is never jealous of the love between a husband and a wife.  In fact He orders it!

Ephesians 5:25
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;  KJV

    So, Paul gave good and true wisdom.  That being that, if a man or woman is to serve God in their best capacity, then they could do that much more effectively if they be spouseless.  But as Paul quickly interjects:  "But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn".  This was also "by permission."

1 Corinthians 7:1-10
7:1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.
7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.
9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:  KJV

    It was built upon this the destructive protocol of the celibate priesthood and cloistered nuns.  Wherein are both plagued by sexual corruptions.  They tried to be something that they were not, and in the end lost themselves.

    What is happening in this thread, is that feminist agenda is being subtly interjected.  And all the confused among the women, yearning to be more than they know inside that they are, love to have it so.  It tickles their ears to be told that they are as capable as a man at leading/dominating.  It's not true, even very nature screams to us that it is not true; but today's woman has been long ago separated from the realities of God's created order.  "An enemy hath done this." (Matthew 13:28a).

    Oh how absolutely barbaric I must sound to today's woman.  How dare I use the term "leading/dominating" in regards to a man over a woman.  Haven't I read the newspapers, haven't I been to the movies?  Have I missed the protests, demonstrations, and bra-burnings?  Am I ignorant to Jane Fonda and Oprah?  No, I am not ignorant to any of that, but I know the spiritual author of it.  And the Word of God knows nothing of those things.  They represent a reality that He never intended.  Nor shall He sanction or forgive popular social opinion.  It is satan's design to destroy God's ordered world; first stripping the woman from her man, then divorcing her from her God.  Am I bugging the reader yet?  Sorry, but unlike Bono, I did mean to bug you.  Trying to wake you all up before it is too late.

    Goddess worship is the driving force behind all Feminist idea.  And Lesbianism is the ultimate, perfect, and pure expression of Feminism; which is why the Feminist movement is top heavy with Lesbians, whom are atheist driven by the great enemy of God and mankind; unseemliness worked by influential Jews behind the scenes, footing the bill, pushing the agenda into every five year old girls head as she sits in front of the electric babysitter, the propaganda tube; while "mom" goes out and grabs the world by tail, and "dad" is off somewhere in search of his testicles lost somewhere in the 1960's when satan raped the mind of women in America and every other Christian Western Nation.  She is woman, watch her roar!  Oh, and roar she does; for now.

    And the bottom line is that, to adopt this feminist attitude, one must divorce him/herself from the Scriptures, and from God even.  And yes, there are non-female Feminists; look all around you. 

What will our feminists do with:

Genesis 3:16
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.  KJV

Was the author, Moses, just musing?  Just having a "woman-hating" day, was he?  A little of that old Paul "opinion" stuff?

    And you men out there: You are not guiltless; for, like our Adam before us, we became weak, and the wicked one has taken our women right out from under our noses; and we did nothing, afraid even to object. 

Genesis 3:17
17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;  KJV

     And in ever increasing numbers, we men, like Adam, are eating as well.  And like him, are we cursed.  Who can blame God?  We men were here to lead our women, but we became weak, wearied by the constant barrage out of a Judaic driven disobedient womankind.  So we gave in, and we gave up.  We said, "Hey, as long I get "lucky" with her, who cares."  Well, sure we got "lucky" with our women, but then, so too did many others have them, lately both men and women are having them!  I shudder to think at the next degeneration of the human female; but Scripture speaks of it right next to the Homosexuality admonitions. 

Leviticus 20:13-16
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
14 And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you.
15 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.
16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.  KJV

     And God doesn't generally outline death sentences if they aren't going to be happening.  And we don't even fathom marrying a virgin today; and if our wives cheat on us, we hope that they stop that; how far we have fallen!  Hey, Mister; are you starting to care now, stupid?

    Men who do object, men who do not "hearkened unto the voice of thy wife", men who lead their family and their women in a Godly and decisive way are in a sorry state; perhaps even sadder is the case of the younger men today, because they never had a chance to see how it was supposed to be; at least us older fellows (I'm 45) had, for moments, what should have been.  But then it is we primarily who let it corrupt into the confusion that it is today―on our watch it corrupted itself, and we did NOTHING!  Well, today, I am doing something; I am speaking out.  Will it matter?  Will any hear?  Will any agree?  I cannot now know.  Even unnatural freedoms are hard to relinquish once tasted.  Perhaps women today "love to have it so" (Jer 5:31b)?  that is for them each individually to decide.  And decide they must; for, even no decision is a decision by default.  No "fence sitting" allowed.

     Nevertheless; this I do know: that being lonely, many good intentioned Christian single men out there, read their Bibles and learn therein of the ideal woman that God has ordained for them to have.  Then they close the book and look out over the dance floor.  But there was none for them, none to be found; they have all gone away.  And the ones out there today, that looked like the women in the Bible, were too busy trying to be us, not be for us; quite content to have us be them.  And likewise, good Christian women wonder 'Where have all the good men gone?"  Satan has us both in conflict and confusion, and quite at odds with each other; and we never saw it coming!  Or, seeing it, being too weak to stand up, or too selfish to submit.

     Nothing natural has two heads, nor two tails; but everything has one of each, in harmony.  God, in His providence, and in His infinite and far-seeing wisdom, ordained the man to be the head.  Today's corrupted perversions of the relationship model have two heads; which really aren't two heads, but one head ineffective, and a tail trying to be a head to the destruction of the whole creature.  So how then did this all come upon us?

"...an enemy hath done this" (Mat 13:28a).

    I don't know, the end is coming upon us as a storm.  But had I been created a female, I would seek out a strong-minded, Bible-believing, kind-hearted, conscienced, Christian man, for the ride through the Tribulation; for a ride through the end of the Bible.  For whatever is, whatever is now; is going to be destroyed by God when He returns, as it is written.  So, obviously, something is going terribly wrong, even as we speak.

    And to you women who "just can't understand why" your children are so obedient; perhaps they learned it from watching your total lack of respect for your husbands.  And maybe that's why boys grow up not particularly liking the women, but only having need for them.

     And men, don't be fooled!  You are not without blame.  You cannot imagine how much it is the dream deep in a Christian woman's heart, to find a strong, kind, leading, Christian man.  It is in her nature, she cannot help herself; she wants that as much as you do.  But, alas; she also looked out over that same dance floor; and like us, she too found none worthy.  We had all gone away.  And all she saw was weak lying men looking more for a ride, than for the responsibility of leading his woman and family into a life in Christ Jesus, acceptable, Godly, scriptural, beautiful. 

    And finally, to the feminist-minded women, both the open and those in denial; and to the feminized men, who have lost all capacity to rule, or to stand, or to be anything like firm; both of which I have no doubt offended here today: I am not sorry; I do not apologize to you; nor do I seek your pardon.  What I said was the truth.  Bury me in it; but you can't change reality to suit your social consciences.  And God don't change just because His creation thinks that He ought.

     And if any (so-called) man thinks that they have some Holy Writ to be mean and abusive to his woman; or, if any women here thinks that I am saying that you must submit to ALL men, or that you don't have any worth or value: then you both have missed the point.  A woman is to submit to her husband, not any other man, save for her father on Earth when she is young, and her Lord in Heaven always.  And, we men, I think, must read every word in the below Scriptures; for, there is much admonition to us in there as well!  It's not all about "Women get in thy place", a lot of it is also about, "Men get thyself worthy of being followed".  I trust that you understand my point?  Let's close with Scripture, and weigh all things in the balances of the written Word of God:

Scripture to close upon:

Colossians 3:16-25
16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.
20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.
22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.  KJV

1 Corinthians 11:2-3
2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.  KJV

Titus 2:1-8
2:1 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:
2 That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.
3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;
4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
6 Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded.
7 In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,
8 Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.  KJV

Ephesians 5:20-33
20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.  KJV
 

Peace.

Nick

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Tithing and offering to Christian ministries; should we?  (with special note to small ministries)


Xxxxxxxxx Ministries writes:

Nick, 

I know this is a long one [article] and I don't expect you to comment on all that was written.  I am going to research this my self but I was hoping you might have some insight on the matter.  The subject is tithing 10% of you money back to the Lord, given to the church you are being fed by.  I came across this article* on the web given to me by a friend.  What is your over all understanding of tithing and do you have any material on it?

Thanks & God Bless,  Xxxxxxxxx Ministries

*Article title: Tithing is Unscriptural Under the New Covenant; A Scriptural Exposition
on the Fraudulent Fleecing of the Flock, by L. Ray Smith

WBSG preface note:  This is a very long article (34 printed pages) whose basic premise is that the churches are stealing the peoples money, and that Christians today do not have to tithe to their churches.  The article goes on to name some famous hucksters who pillage their congregations, and while admittedly I did not read it all; what I skimmed made me feel that the author paints all ministries as thieving, and that nobody should help any of them out.  So in other words, withhold from the good ones because of what the bad ones do.  I could be wrong on their ultimate premise, as I have not bothered to read through it all.  It seemed hateful of Christian churches.  It seems like they would like to kill all Christian ministries because of the sins of the false ones.  Here is a Link, but understand that I am supporting or condemning this Website by providing a link, as I don't read their work. I just thought that I should supply documentation as to what they wrote, which I am commenting on here.

Some outtakes should give you a felling for the mood:

  • "I couldn’t count the times I have heard self-appointed ministers of the gospel berate their congregations and listeners for "robbing God" in tithes and offerings."

  • "God is not partial and God is not a hypocrite. This example of Jacob proves that God doesn’t expect a tithe until He blessed the tithe payer first."

  • "A warning to all charlatans and would-be tithe extractors and collectors: There is NO temple of God being officiated in Jerusalem today. There is NO Levitic priesthood to officiate at such a temple. There is NO NEED for such a temple or priesthood at this time. Only Levites could collect tithes at the temple. Therefore, EVERYONE collecting tithes today is a charlatan and a fake."

And below, from the article, we see that false preachers have given the enemies of Christianity much ammo to use against the true churches of Jesus Christ:

  • "Yet today we have tithe collecting preachers like James Kennedy and John Hagee, with whom I am a little familiar, collecting tithe monies by the millions and millions of dollars annually. Yet by years end I heard them begging for more multiple millions of dollars to get them out of all the financial debt they had accumulated during the year. And then, (so help me, if I’m lying, I’m dying), John Hagee has the unmitigated gall to offer his followers (excuse me, sell to his followers--three video tapes, $60 US/$87 CAN) entitled The POWER to get WEALTH, by which Mr. Hagee assures us that we can learn to "STAY OUT OF DEBT"! Can you believe it? Would the word "hypocrite" be too strong or out of place here?"

  • "For those who don’t know, Mr. Shambach is a character on TBN who told everyone on international television, via 25 communication satellites and reaching about 50,000 major cities around the world, that God personally told him to tell everyone that in order for them to get out of debt and be blessed of God, everyone needed to send Paul Crouch $2000 each, even if they didn’t have the money! He said God would bless them even if they had to pay the $2000 in smaller monthly increments. Unbelievable!"


Answer:

Hello Xxxxxx Ministries:

     [First please note that I am not addressing you directly in this Q&A, so don't take any words to be directed personally at you.  I write to all who read.]  Ok, as we can see in the above, there are some bad ministries. And unfortunately they are the most popular ones, the most visible ones.  It really gives all Christians a black eye.  Odd that I saw no mention of the Catholic Church in the above money scam exposé, which uses a good portion of it's donations paying off its priest's homosexual pedophile rape of children claims.  (Apostle's Peter and Paul must be 'rolling over in their graves' at the depravity!)  And after placing the text into Word 2003, and doing a search for the word "catholic"--it returned exactly zero hits.  So, this may be infighting between the Judaic-run Catholic Church against the many Judaic-run Protestant branches of churches.  Or, in one place that I excerpted above, mention is made to the Temple of the Old Testament and the Levite priesthood of the time.  Well, Christians worship at the Temple of Christ Jesus, which is Him, God became flesh.  So maybe there is a Jewish attacking Christian angle here.  I don't know.  Nowadays "they" are so crafty in attacking Christianity, they use Jesus' name like He's their pal or cousin, then they go on to destroy the churches founded upon the sacrifice of this same Jesus.  I don't know; I just got a bad feel reading the writer.  Though I myself am not against exposing false (so-called) Christian ministries and denominations, as evident by my my own writings.  Enough about the author of the Webpage.  I don't know the man.

John 2:18-22
18 Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.  KJV

     And really, what are we supposed to do, mothball all Christian organizations because of some evil ones slipped in unawares?  Wouldn't satan just love that?

     But let's get back to tithes and offerings:

     As for tithing or offering, I don't think that I have anything written on it.  I may have mentioned it in one Q&A, I think; I'm really not sure. 

     The reason that I don't speak of it is because I feel that it could be looked at as though I am begging money out of people.  And enemies of Christ like to smear and defame ministries.  So why give them the opportunity? 

     I had a guy once berate me for placing a "donate box" on my Website.  I never asked anyone to put anything in, and I pay out of pocket for all related expenses, and offer the labor of my hands for free.  But anyway, it turns out this Jewish fellow had his own Website [a sort of Jewish Christian convert type of thing] whose bandwidth and hosting was DONATED by a large firm!  That's an offering.  Duh!  So he was a hypocrite. 

     Anyway, since you ask, I will give you a couple of impressions of mine.  And at first I wasn't going to be posting this Q&A on the Website, for the above reasons.  But half way through answering it, I thought better, and I will be posting this; as I feel that there is some valuable advice to be gleaned from the Scriptures on the matter.  (I will omit the name of your ministry from the public posting of this―I am always careful not to mention anyone in particular to their embarrassment). 

     And now I suppose that a little note must be made here as well.  I will mention a particular denomination or preacher if I feel that they are hurting the sheep of Christ.  And I do that, not out of spite, but so that maybe a tender twig who is in one of these ministries might see the article and be warned off into safety.  And if in carelessness, I "accuse" an innocent party, God shall require that of me.  I am very cognizant that it is a dangerous place to be, critiquing those claiming to be servants of God.  But if a man be a faker, or a wolf in sheep's clothing―then there is no greater duty, I think, than to warn God's blessed Christian children. 

     It is a very solemn duty to undertake, and that nobody should "just wake up one day and decide to go out and become a 'heretic hunter'."  It's easy to be wrong about one of them; then what have you really done?  Dangerous ground to tread.  I pray that I've never injured an innocent. 

OK.  Moving to your question: 

     Well, number one; I don't like the concept of "ten percent" today.  And I don't like the concept of ministries telling their people in their churches that they have to give 10% (or scaring them into giving at all).  As we all know, a "tithe" is ten percent, that's what the word means, literally.  But in the old days, the church in the New Testament times, and the religious body in Israel of the Old Testament were taking care of the poor, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, supporting military ventures, etc.  They took care of widows and orphans and strangers. 

     Today our government does that in Social Security and Welfare; and they charge us out of our paychecks.  So to give 10% to any ministry now, is over and above what was ever asked of by God; because you are paying so much taxes out of your paycheck to provide these human services.  And if you are a recipient of aid, then you don't have to tithe upon a tithe, so to speak.  In other words, the poor are free, or at least they need only give a pittance, for conscience sake.  And your tithe can be your time as well.  Many donate their time to help the needy.  Many do work around the church without accepting payment.  Many spend time and effort to speak of Jesus Christ to those who do not know Him.  These are all forms of tithe & offerings. 

     What's your time worth?  If you are a Plumber and you install new sinks in the church's bathroom; that is, what, $40.00 a hour times maybe four hours; and you probably donated the sinks to boot.  That's a pretty good offering, I think. 

     It's not the amount of the money that God looks at, it is what's in the heart when it is given.  One may give a trillion dollars and not please God one wit, because that man has a billion other trillions of dollars saved away.  And another might give not even a penny, because he has little for himself and his family, just saying a prayer for a less fortunate; and simply make God's day!  That later man shall be rich in Heaven, the other?  Well, let's let God do the judging.  But it doesn't take the sharpest knife in the drawer to realize who put a smile on God's face and who made Him upset.  And it was never about the money, it was about the charity involved. 

     Every kid learns that when they have their favorite candy bar, it takes something deep inside them to give half of it away to a playmate who has no candy in his lunch bag.  So too with us adults.  Many do not have as much in their pay envelope as do we, though they may even work harder and longer than us, and have more hungry little mouths to feed.  Shame on a selfish well-to-do Christian!  It had been better for you, at the end of the day, to have had been born poor.  Jesus didn't speak in vain when He said "And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!" (Mark 10:23).  It isn't because wealthy Christians are bad, it is because rich men have more temptations, and they tend to favor their money a little too much.  But there are many well-to-do Christians who, giving thanks, bless God for their good circumstances. 

     Do some so-called Christian ministries abuse tithes and offerings?  Yep.  Are some churches nothing more than a get rich quick scheme?  Yes, they are.  And boy, are they ever going to get it!!!  As our Lord has so stated regarding the hypocrite and the false: "They have their reward" (Mat 6:5b).  I don't know about you, but I'd rather have my reward in Heaven.  God will bless us here, but the greatest blessing is in the eternity with Him.  Why be rich now and broken at Judgement Day? 

     But we most all have needs here on this Earth as well.  No shame in that.  And the best 'givers' are those who know how it feels to have not.  In that experience, which many might call a 'curse' (being flat broke), is actually a blessing.  For out of your own need you have learned to succor the needs of others.  That is a blessing; and yes, it does hurt at the time.  But now look at you, you're a pretty nice person, and God likes us when we are nice to each other.  :o)  Specially when we are nice to a one who could never possibly ever repay us.    There are many who know exactly what I mean. 

     But beware, for if you knowingly support a corrupt ministry, you become a partaker of her evil deed.  Of course, if you did so ignorantly, not knowing that they were teaching for truth, lies; then you are free of the charges.  Once again, God looks at our hearts; what is important to Him is what we were thinking at the time of an act--what did we know.

2 John 10-11
10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.  KJV

     Apostle Paul collected funds from one church which had much, to help a fledgling church in another area.  Is that not "New Testament offering"?  Yes it is.  In the below, "robbed" means to take the donations from one church to help another:

2 Corinthians 11:8-9
8 I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service.
9 And when I was present with you, and wanted, I was chargeable to no man: for that which was lacking to me the brethren which came from Macedonia supplied: and in all things I have kept myself from being burdensome unto you, and so will I keep myself.  KJV

     Paul didn't take a salary, but he never said that other ministers shouldn't.  Paul was a special case.  But even Paul used donations from one church to support another work of God in another town.  Well, somebody had to be making those donations.  I am quite sure that the Jewish Sanhedrin or the Roman Senate weren't footing the bill for the growth and spread of first century Christianity. 

     Did God say that we are not to support those working in the churches?  You decide.  In the below two New Testament Scriptures; fifteen verses in the first, and nine verses in the second; you shall have your answer to that question:

1 Corinthians 9:1-15
9:1 Am I not an apostle? am I not free? have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord?
2 If I be not an apostle unto others, yet doubtless I am to you: for the seal of mine apostleship are ye in the Lord.
3 Mine answer to them that do examine me is this,
4 Have we not power to eat and to drink?
5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?
6 Or I only and Barnabas, have not we power to forbear working?
7 Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock?
8 Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also?
9 For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.
11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?
12 If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.
15 But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void.  KJV 

Luke 10:3-11
3 Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.
4 Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.
5 And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house.
6 And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.
7 And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
8 And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you:
9 And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.
10 But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say,
11 Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.  KJV

     Your answer is simple, really:  If Christians do not support the work, who the heck else will?  The government?  No, they want to put high walls around the churches.  The large corporations, the Media?  Please, they can't wait till one messes up so they can plaster it all over the world, shaming every Christian ministry with the same stroke.  Who else will help?  Jews, Muslims, Atheists?  Hardly.  One robs us, the other cuts off our head, the third mocks us; and they all blaspheme our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for denying Him who He really is. 

     And I think that it is a shame on us all that God has to step in with miracles, to do what we should have been able to do for Him.  He sees all.  God don't sleep! 

But your question seems more to the 10% thing, rather than offerings.

     I will say this:  You don't have to give 10%.  You don't have to give 1%.  You don't have to give anything.  And if you (not you specifically) are giving anything because you feel that you have to―you've wasted your money.  It meant absolutely NOTHING to God.  In fact, you've quite insulted Him, and it had been better for you not to give a dime.  Does the government thank you for paying your taxes? 

     For, God was there blessing you along the way, He heard your need and answered; and now you suppose that you could ever even-up with Him?  He who saved our wrenched souls!  Believe me, you really don't want God taking out the score-card.  :o)   Understand that I speak in a way to make a point.  When God forgives upon Jesus Christ's blood, that is final!  I am just making a point that our human minds can relate to.  And that there is no way that ANY of us could ever begin to repay Him for reaching down, cleaning us up, and putting His Holy Spirit to be within us for guidance through Christ Jesus unto life eternal.  How do you even begin making installment plans on something like that? 

     But lead one despondent confused person to Christ, pay one desperate single mother's rent, while the landlord is ready to throw her and her kids out into the street―and you have given more than you can ever know.  Because that person which was lost, is found in Christ Jesus; and that broken woman thanked God with much tears later that night, for answering her prayers of a fortnight ago.  And God used you!  And that my friend, is huge in anyone's book!

     So you see, "tithes and offerings" come in many forms, but all are to the Lord.  I don't have to remind you of what the Master said:

Matthew 25:31-46
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me .
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.  KJV

     Yea, and "Thy money perish with thee" (Acts 8:20).  Do you think that He needs our $$$?  Or that He couldn't bless a ministry Himself some other way?  Listen, there are many well-to-do Christian people.  God has "much people in this city" (Acts 18:10).  So, He can make all kinds of moves with the twitch of an eyebrow.  He moves people to accomplish His ends.  If any ministry is doing His work, and is pleasing in His sight (though no man can please God perfectly), He shall not let them go under.  And if they do fold, while yet being pleasing to Him, then maybe their work there was competed and He has other elsewhere for them; or, perhaps He is shaking the dust of your feet at the ones He's sent you to.  Trust God, He doesn't make the wrong choice. 

     But He wants us to care about each other, He wants us to help each other.  Oh, how He pains to see the well-to-do turn their eyes away from the needy.  Oh, how He hates when the "successful" speak about "their" accomplishments boastfully; as though God could'nt take it all away from them and give it to another in two and one half minutes! 

     So, my humble advice is this:  Pray and follow your heart.  There are no magic numbers, no percentile scale to work off of regarding love and charity.  If you have extra, and if you feel led to help the work or the needy, then let it be between you and God.

Matthew 6:1-4
6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.  KJV

     For it is God that shall see, and it is He whom shall weight the heart, and it is He that shall be pleased or whom shall be displeased. 

     And if you have only little yourself, and if your kid wants those new shoes, and you can't take care of both your own house and the church house―then take care of your own house first. 

1 Timothy 5:8
8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.  KJV

     God shall care for His true servants.  And He knows that you pained over where to use your little resources.  That is good enough for Him.  For, He weighs the heart, not the size of the offering. 

A closing word 

     I know how the false among the preachers tell you that if you donate money (to them), then God will "reimburse you ten-fold," etc. 

     I am nobody, but I say that God won't give you anything in that situation.  If you give to get, then you aren't really giving, you are investing for profits; you are charging God usury!  And then He may well take away even what little you have left.  You are supposed to give to give, not give to get.  And if you have need yourself, then you ask Him in prayer to help you.  You don't make financial bargains with Him.  To do so is a insult to him.  He doesn't need your "seed money", as the thieving play-ministers say; what He needs for you to do is to trust Him.  He isn't going to let go down any further than you can clime up.  Trust Him that just when it is at it's worst, He is beginning His greatest move; and it doesn't come with a price tag on it.  And it most always isn't as bad as we suppose it to be.  But He understands that, as well.  To us there is no greater tragedy than our own misfortune. 

     And you certainly don't give your last few bucks to some ripoff-artist false preacher, and then expect God to cash you out.  And really, no good Christian ministry would take your last few bucks.  In fact, there are even some that might surprise you, and along with returning your financial gift, maybe find you a job, or deliver a bag of canned goods to your door every week till you get back on your feet.  Those are the REAL churches of Jesus Christ―and sadly, to the shame of us Christians everywhere, they are most often the ones in financial straits.

     And I could just scream when I see a false preacher on television state that you must donate to them, "because God NEEDS something to work with to bless you  ... God needs 'seed money' so that as a tree grows from a seed, God will grow your wealth hundreds fold ... blah blah blah ...""  These fake ministers don't even believe in God!  There is no way that they could believe in God and do what they do.  Am I judging them?  There is One who judges from Heaven, let Him judge; I'm just calling it like I see it down here.  And I'll sleep very well tonight with my above statement, thank you.

     God doesn't "need" our money, He wants our love; and He wants us to care; after Him, caring specially for each other. 

     Don't worry, God has a keen eye on they fakes and thieves.  But don't now everyone throw the baby out with the bath water, the good churches out with the bad.  If God didn't want churches, Jesus Christ wouldn't have founded them upon Himself.  Don't let satan poison your hearts against the good churches, few of them that there are anymore.  Church is not bad, it's what goes on inside that matters. 

     And it is usually a little easier to have church when the electric isn't shut off, the front door isn't chained by the Landlord, and the preacher has been eating on a regular basis.  That's were the Christian in general comes in―he helps with those matters.  You know what I mean?  And I notice than none of the Apostles in the Bible had to go to bed hungry. 

     Then why are little Bible churches closing daily in the small towns all across America?  Because Christians are happier in a huge church where a huge name minister will sit there and lie to them for an hour, charge a couple hundred bucks and send them home "feeling much better now, thank you"; not knowing one wit more about God's Word than when they walked in the door an hour before.  It's almost like going to a therapist.

     And when all the small Bible-centered ministries are gone, closed, and forgotten; then where will truth be found?  Where will the people go to do as Jesus said: "learn of me" (Mat 11:29b)?  Will they go to the Catholic Church?  What, and learn how to worship idols, kneel down in worship and kiss the Pope's ring, waft incense offerings to deceased man-made "saints"?  To the Rapture churches?  For what, to learn how to desert the mission field, which is the world, in time of spiritual battle?  Or to the mainstream once-Protestant Churches?  What, and learn how to marry your own gender, rewrite the Bible calling God "she", and play Bible-version roulette?  How about to the New Age "spirituality" churches?  For what, to learn how to think yourself to be God?  There is little truth left in the so-called Christian churches anymore.  Did not the Scriptures warn of such for these endtimes?

     Why do you think that at the end of the book of Revelation that Christ returns and destroys the whole place?

Revelation 19:11-21
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.  KJV

     He destroys the whole lot of them, save for small number who remained faithful till the end; because at the time when He returns, it shall be to a godless world and a dead spiritually-prostitute church.  They are dying as we speak, and the world becomes darker by the day. 

Luke 18:7-8
7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?  KJV

    How far are we really from this!  Open a newspaper, turn on the television, get sick Christian.  And just who do you think are the ones tormenting God's Elect in the above?  Zombies from hell?  Who tormented God when He came here in the flesh!  Who runs the ACLU tormenting any mention of God or Christ anywhere except in your basement in the dark in shame!  After one reads the Bible, it isn't really all that difficult to determine who shall be persecuting the endtime church from within and without.  Put two and two together, please.  I know, I know; you can't talk about "them" or you'll be an AntiSemite.  So instead, deny Christ, because Christ offends Jews (I guess because they murdered Him and are sick and tired of us whining about it).  And if you are a Christian and you offend Jews with your Jesus Christ; then guess what?  Yep, you are an AntiSemite.  In much of Europe and Canada that is a jailable offense THIS VERY DAY.  In Canada, today, Christian preachers are being charged with "hate crimes" for reading from the Bible IN CHURCH!  Christian, can't you see what's coming?  What's right around the corner even?  Read Revelation chapter 13, that's what's right around the corner.

     Oh, how the Judaics have done their homework!  Those enemies of God and Christ and man.  They killed Christ, deny God, and destroy mankind.  And now Jesus Christ's church and His followers are dying off in droves, inside, spiritually beguiled, by the father of all lies, satan, and his human "chosen ones".

     AntiSemitic speech?  Gimme a break, it's the truth; look all around you!  Why do so-called Christians betray Christ for "for fear of the Jews" (John 7:13)?

John 7:13
13 Howbeit no man spake openly of him [Jesus] for fear of the Jews.  KJV

Martin Luther, author of the 95 Thesis, and founder of the Great Reformation, writes:

“If I profess with the loudest voice and clearest exposition every portion the truth of God except precisely that little point which the world and the devil are at the moment attacking, I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I may be professing Christ.  Where the battle rages there the loyalty of the soldier is proved.  And to be steady on all the battle fields besides, is merely flight and disgrace if he flinches at that point.”  


[the above comments not directed to Xxxxxx Ministries]

     And as far as Xxxxxxx Ministries is concerned; as a Christian ministry, large or small: God knows what you have need of, and He also knows that you will receive no funding from the government or from the corrupt super-denominations and television mega-ministries who have more funding than they could ever possibly use (for any good Godly purpose).  So then: do His will, teach His written Word to the best of your ability, never be afraid to observe error on your part, and happening one day to realize any, correct it humbly.  For, greater than we have made some mistake, some misinterpretation, some blunder, some error.  Do all these things with pure heart and purer prayer, and He will see to your needs.  For, He truly does "have much people in this city." (Acts 18:10).  And from what I can tell by the letters that I receive, most of them "much people" of God's have been praying for a long time to find a church that taught it the way God wrote it.  Do that, my friend; and they will come.

     And if you have to beg people that you are helping, do you really want their assistance anyway?  And moreover, if the Lord let's us fail, do we really have the guts to try to remain afloat?  I don't!  If God let me fail, I am going to be spending all my time figuring out what I did to displease Him, and asking Him for forgiveness―I sure am not going to be trying to work around Him and go against His will!

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God bless the study of His Word, in Jesus Christ's name!
Nick Goggin

 

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What does God require of us in the New Testament times?  (Also, Home Communion components and Anointing Oil type)

 

A reader asks:

Nick,

 

I have read your study on the Food laws, sacrificing laws, and offering laws [ ] and I do understand those now, but I am confused about other laws just wondering if you could help me to understand.

My question is "Are we to keep these laws (actually I do not know if they would even be called laws) and how do they pertain to us?" I have listed below the ones I am asking about;

- The circumcision on the eight day that is spoke about to Abraham in Genesis Chapter 17 and others

- The feast of unleavened bread and the other feast like the feast of the harvest that God told Moses and the people of Israel to keep every year that is in Exodus Chapters 12 and 23 and others (I really do not even understand exactly what the unleavened bread is and the feast of the harvest)

Just wondering if you could help me clear this up so I know I am doing what I am suppose to do.

 

God Bless, Xxxxxxx


Answer:

Hi, sorry to be so far behind in my mail ...Anyway, you asked:

"...My question is "Are we to keep these laws (actually I do not know if they would even be called laws) and how do they pertain to us?" I have listed below the ones I am asking about;

- The circumcision on the eight day that is spoke about to Abraham in Genesis Chapter 17 and others

- The feast of unleavened bread and the other feast like the feast of the harvest that God told Moses and the people of Israel to keep every year that is in Exodus Chapters 12 and 23 and others (I really do not even understand exactly what the unleavened bread is and the feast of the harvest)

Just wondering if you could help me clear this up so I know I am doing what I am suppose to do. 

God Bless,  Xxxxxxxx

 

As far as the feast days, 'rituals', and obligations: we only needs keep the ones that Jesus Christ told us to keep.  Those being mainly these,

Salvation (by belief):

John 3:16-18

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  KJV

 

Baptism (into Christ Jesus):

Matthew 28:19-20

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: [Jesus Christ was God in the flesh by the Holy Spirit]

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.  KJV

 

Acts 2:38

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ [Jesus Christ was God in the flesh by the Holy Spirit] for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.  KJV

 

Romans 6:3-5

3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:  KJV

 

The Lord's Supper (Christ became our Passover):

Luke 22:17-20

17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:

18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.

19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.  KJV

 

1 Corinthians 11:23-26

23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.  KJV

1 Corinthians 5:7

7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:  KJV

 

Repentance (to God in Jesus Christ's name):

Mark 1:14-15

14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,

15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.  KJV

Hebrews 7:25

25 Wherefore he [Jesus] is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.  KJV

 

Hebrews 4:14-16

14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.  KJV

 

1 Timothy 2:5-6

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.  KJV

 

Acts 17:30-31

30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent :

31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.  KJV

 

Revelation 2:4-5

4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.

5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent , and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.  KJV

 

Revelation 2:16-17

16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.  KJV

 

Revelation 2:21-23

21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.  KJV

 

Revelation 3:2-3

2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.  KJV

 

Revelation 3:19-22

19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent .

20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.  KJV

 

Acts 3:19

19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;  KJV

 

John 16:23

23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name , he will give it you.  KJV

 

1 John 2:1-2
2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.  KJV

 

Anointing (of the sick, and for blessings and mission):

James 5:13-16

13 Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.

14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.  KJV
 

Matthew 6:17

17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;  KJV

 

Leviticus 8:12

12 And he poured of the anointing oil upon Aaron's head, and anointed him, to sanctify him.  KJV

 

1 Samuel 16:11-13

11 And Samuel said unto Jesse, Are here all thy children? And he said, There remaineth yet the youngest, and, behold, he keepeth the sheep. And Samuel said unto Jesse, Send and fetch him: for we will not sit down till he come hither.

12 And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, and withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this is he.

13 Then Samuel took the horn of oil, and anointed him in the midst of his brethren: and the Spirit of the LORD came upon David from that day forward. So Samuel rose up, and went to Ramah.  KJV

 

Learn the Gospel (Bible study):

Matthew 11:29

29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me ; for I [Jesus] am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.  KJV

 

Matthew 28:20

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.  KJV

 

Acts 3:22-26

22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet [Jesus] shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.  KJV

 

Acts 7:37

37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet [Jesus] shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.  KJV

 

Mark 13:10
And the gospel must first be published among all nations.  KJV

 

Romans 10:13-18

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel . For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.  KJV 

 

Spread the Gospel (in any sincere way, great or small):

Mark 16:15-16

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.  KJV

 

Matthew 28:19-20

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.  KJV

Luke 7:22-23

22 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

23 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.  KJV

 

1 Thessalonians 2:4

4 But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.  KJV

 

1 Peter 1:9-12

9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

10 Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:

11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.  KJV

 

1 Peter 4:14-19

14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.

15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.

16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.  KJV
 

And if I've missed any other, let it be completed as stated by our Lord Jesus Christ:

Mark 12:28-34

28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?

29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.

34 And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.  KJV

In closing, you asked several questions, with which we shall be happy to let the Gospel itself answer:
 

Question: "...The circumcision on the eight day that is spoke about to Abraham in Genesis Chapter 17 and others "

Circumcision is no longer necessary.  Since Christ, the circumcision is of the heart (and includes females).  Observe:

1 Corinthians 7:17-20

17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.

18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.

19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.  KJV

 

Galatians 5:1-6
5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.

3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.

4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth anything, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.  KJV

 

Romans 2:28-29

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.  KJV

 

Colossians 2:8-23

8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
21(Touch not; taste not; handle not;
22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?
23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.  KJV
 

Question: "Just wondering if you could help me clear this up so I know I am doing what I am suppose to do."

Ecclesiastes 12:13

13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.  KJV

 

Mark 12:28-31

28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?

29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel ; The Lord our God is one Lord:

30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.  KJV

John 3:36
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.  KJV 

John 5:19-25
19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.  KJV

John 6:35-40
35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.
37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.  KJV 

Romans 10:9-11
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.  KJV 

1 John 5:7-15
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.  KJV 

John 6:47
47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.  KJV

 

Question: "The feast of unleavened bread and the other feast like the feast of the harvest that God told Moses and the people of Israel to keep every year that is in Exodus Chapters 12 and 23 and others (I really do not even understand exactly what the unleavened bread is and the feast of the harvest) "

    Well, regarding harvest feasts: there are too many of us who harvest crops anymore.  So that was of old.  But any celebration to the Lord God in Jesus Christ' name, is happy and acceptable to our Lord.  that is why many Christians say "Grace" over their meal before they eat, thanking God.  But none of the feast days are required any longer, save for the Lord's Supper (Holy Communion), and that because Jesus Himself said of His Supper, "this do in remembrance of me." (Luke 22:19)  Same goes for Baptism, because Christ has said, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them" (Mat 28:19)

    If I were pressed to give a one line answer as to how man may be saved, it would be the one complete perfect Scripture below; which can stand upon it's own, being complete in itself, all speaking.  Everything beyond this is greater pleasing to the Lord, any less is condemnation:

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  KJV

PS: "Unleavened" bread means 'made with no yeast.'  If you take Communion at home, use any bread or cracker product that has no yeast in it.  If it has salt, I might brush it off.  Any Bible Bookstore sells the bread (but use the biscuit shaped ones, not the solar-disc shape that the Catholics use! [host of Heaven worship!]).  You can make your own, as well.  Communion bread is made for the churches with just flour and vegetable shortening.  As for the wine, use a simple rose/blood colored wine.  Or, if you can't take alcohol, use a good pure grape juice.  Nothing fancy, our Lord was humble and simple and pure―though He owned the whole universe and spoke it into it's very existence.  That's why He was born in a manger (Lk 2:7), had no place to rest His head, no home (Mat 8:20), rode into Jerusalem on an ass (Mt 21:2-11), was spat upon by the heathen (Mk 10:33-34), betrayed by His own (Mt 17:22), and was hung on a cross like a common criminal (Heb 12:2).  And can you imagine it, men did this to God in the flesh?!?  Woe is the world for offences! 

    And once you consecrate (set aside) a portion of bread and wine/juice, do not ever use it for any other purpose—to do so would be to desecrate it.  In other words, if you buy a small bottle of wine; pour a portion into a separate container to use for Communion only.  And never use that set aside portion to drink recreationally, or as cooking wine, or whatnot.  The same with the bread.  And the same goes for the pure extra-virgin Olive Oil that you set aside for anointing.

 

    Once it is set aside, it is dedicated to the Lord.  Though the wine, bread, and oil do not take on any great characteristic themselves, they are still but wine, bread, and oil (the blessings coming from the Father), but they are set aside to the Lord, and that needs be respected.

 

    You do remember what happened to Belshazzar when he desecrated the Temple vessels by drinking "party wine" in them"?

Daniel 5:23-31

23 But hast lifted up thyself against the LORD of heaven; and they have brought the vessels of his house before thee, and thou, and thy lords, thy wives, and thy concubines, have drunk wine in them; and thou hast praised the gods of silver, and gold, of brass, iron, wood, and stone, which see not, nor hear, nor know: and the God in whose hand thy breath is, and whose are all thy ways, hast thou not glorified:

24 Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written.

25 And this is the writing that was written, MENE , MENE , TEKEL, UPHARSIN.

26 This is the interpretation of the thing: MENE ; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it.

27 TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.

28 PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.

29 Then commanded Belshazzar, and they clothed Daniel with scarlet, and put a chain of gold about his neck, and made a proclamation concerning him, that he should be the third ruler in the kingdom.

30 In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain.

31 And Darius the Median took the kingdom, being about threescore and two years old.  KJV

Peace to you.

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God bless the study of His Word, in Jesus Christ's name!
Nick Goggin

 

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Can false apostles and false disciples have real power today?  Can they make people actually feel supernatural influences and experiences?  How to discern.  One Christian's experience shared.  An eye-opener!

 

Question:
Hi Nick,
 
I've been composing this in my mind ever since I read your teaching regarding the rapture [  ].  I have always been taught the pre-trib rapture only, but something incredibly deep happened to me when I closely examined your teaching and re-examined what the bible says about it.  Wow!  My whole world has changed! I feel so free, so grounded, liberated, excited and studying MORE THAN EVER the Word of God!
 
I wrote to you previously asking about the author of the website (yourself) and your background.  You wrote back a very detailed explanation and it is still posted on your website (the Bio).  Thank you very much.
 
But now I write to you because I had mentioned that I had learned of the World That Then Was through another bible teacher.  You thought it might be Arnold Murray, but it was not, it was through a man who calls himself an Apostle. 
 
About three years ago I met a woman who said if I was looking for the deeper things of God she knew a man who could teach me.  I met this man who calls himself an Apostle.  He is very, very kind and patient, gentle...all the fruits of the spirit.  During my first visit I had a supernatural experience through the Apostle.  He held my hand and this incredible "spash" of energy hit my lower spine.  My natural reaction was to bend over (I didn't fall on the ground).  He then proceeded to tell me that I was a healthy woman but I was hanging out with people that said they were Christians but were not and that this power had gotten in my spine.  When I straightened up again, I felt GREAT!  The next day I met with him privately because I wanted counseling about a Christian man I met while he was traveling and he wanted to "get serious."  The Apostle told me he had a "check" in his spirit and that it would be trap for me.  He then proceeded to hold my hand and again, this incredible "power" came through my entire body.  Afterwards, I felt absolutely wonderful and I cut off the relationship with the man (he lived in Holland and who wants to learn Dutch anyway). 
 
Over the past three years I've been going to visit the Apostle and (not ever visit) but most visits, whenever he prays for me I get this incredible "rush" through my body.  This has happened even over the phone, when I call him for counseling or just when "the spirit" moves through him (over the phone as well).  He always says, "Thank you Father, Thank You Father" whenever this happens.  He has documentation of actual healings of people.  He has a small congregation which I thought was small because he is very strict about maintaining a clean and holy life.  But lately I've had a few questions regarding his bible teaching without very satisfying answers from him.  He definately preaches the pre-trib rapture.  Once, when I was sitting next to the Apostle, he pointed to the T.V.and I'm pretty sure it was Arthur Murray on and he said, "That man has the rapture scriptures and second coming scriptures all mixed up."  I didn't even question the Apostle because of this feeling of "power" that I had felt from him.
 
BUT when I read your teaching on the rapture something sooooooo deep happened to me.  I cannot explain it but that it too was supernatural.....I just felt NOT to be under the Apostle anymore and for him NOT to pray for me with this "power" anymore either.  But after thinking about it, I don't understand where the "power" I feel from the Apostle is coming from, if he is preaching a pre-trib rapture, which I believe is NOT the Jesus I now believe.  I'm thinking maybe he is a man with the spiritual gift of healing but not an Apostle.  The people who have been with him for a long time think that others that don't "go with his teaching" are not in "the Truth."  This kind of mentality I've read about from others on your website.  It's like he is never to be questioned or disagreed with.  But I still cannot understand where this incredible feeling of well-being comes from.  It blows my mind what I felt through my body and it is possibly not from God!  Is that possible?  Or has this man, with a gift for healing, appointed himself an Apostle and overstepped his authority.  Has the spiritual gift of healing gotten to his ego and now the Apostle doctrine has taken over?  Do you have insight for me?  Could he be working for God and just not right about the rapture?  I still have yet to call him and tell him about my change of thinking.  Right now I'm just praying for God to show me how I can compassionately and, with love, tell the Apostle about my change of mind & heart regarding the rapture doctrine and maybe he will change too.  At the same time I feel, from God, not to go and visit the Apostle anymore.  I just want to study through your website and Arnold Murray and other studies, always testing against what the Bible says, as you strongly suggest.
 
I know this is a very long email...you get them a lot I'm sure.  I know you're a very busy man working for God and I really appreciate any feedback when you have the time.
 
God Bless you,  Xxxxxxx
 
P.S.  I have read the scripture on false apostles but I find it hard to believe that this very dedicated, gentle, kind man could have a power from the "other side" working through him.   
 
P.S.S.  BTW was it really a cow (Mrs. O'Leary's?) that started the Chicago fire?
 
P.S.S.S.  Just a note:  One morning, immediately after swimming, I sat down to pray and I remember thinking--"Wow, this is how my body feels when the Apostle prays for me."  Could this power be an imitation of blood circulating in the body after acroebic exercise?  Thanks again, and God Bless again....
 
  
Answer;
 
Hello Xxxxxxx.  I want to be careful and answer your question in a right-by-God way.  Although God has answered you already; for, you yourself told me in what manner God has touched your heart about this man.  Especially telling is that you are minded to never physically be with him, and haven't contacted him in some time.  That should be your answer.  But perhaps I can help you with the "whys".
 
in the religious world, many people, usually males, seem to get caught up in themselves, they tend to think much more of themselves than they really are.
 
I do not know this man which you speak of; so for me to call him something, without knowing him or of his teachings and his doings personally, would be irresponsible. 
 
You say that he "healed" you.  Did he really heal you?  Of what, pray tell, did he heal you of?  All it seems to me that "healed" you of was possibly a good man.  You may well have cast off your soul-mate.  But I don't know.
 
And you were impressed that he kept saying "thank you Father," but do you really know to whom he was speaking?  Many are called father,"  even the devil:
John 8:44
44 Ye are of your father the devil , and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.  KJV
And many are called "God" by followers, even false gods:
1 Corinthians 8:4-6
4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.
5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many , and lords many,)
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.  KJV
 
2 Thessalonians 2:4
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he [antichrist/satan] as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.  KJV
 
You were impressed with the spiritual presence that the man projected.  You felt as though you were in the company of more than a mere man.  You felt physical manipulation, you felt a washing over of you by some unseen force.
Ok, great.  But that means nothing in and of itself.  Being a Christian, you naturally assumed it to be the Holy Spirit's presence.  But was it really?  And if it was, why do you now fear it?  A Christian's first gut instinct is usually pretty much right-on, because of the Holy Spirit that resides in the heart of every believer of Jesus Christ.  But then many Christians allow the person to suck them in with crafty words; thus ignoring their heart and allowing themselves to be 'convinced."
 
Many years ago, I too have been in the company of a group of people (who I later found out were into blasphemous doctrine); but at the time, I thought that they were this great deep spiritual bunch of folks.  They always used Jesus' name and read the Scriptures, and were nice people to others.  They all sems to know their Bibles inside and out.  Then one time with them, we formed a circle (I'll never do that again) and help hands, and the lead woman prayed to God out loud, speaking nice words to God.  And I suddenly felt a surge of energy as we held hands.  That was long ago, before I had good spiritual discernment.  That was the last time that I would ever go near these people; for that evening, one of them gave me some literature for their group.  And upon reading that literature I became spiritual sick (and ashamed that i had partaken in any community prayer with them).  They were possessed people!  I wrote a Bible study about this group afterwards.  You may read it at ( Anatomy of a False Doctrine  ). 
 
So I now know that it wasn't the Holy Spirit of God that I felt that day long ago, it was an evil spirit.  These same people today are saying that "you don't need to believe on Jesus Christ if you are 'Elect' because you are already saved without Him." (WHAT!!!!!)  They believe that they are becoming "Christ-ed" (becoming as Jesus Christ).  Same old New Age rhetoric, and hell-bound blasphemy, to boot.
 
So, what did I feel?  I definitely felt a power, a force from the "other side."  But had I then, and had you also at your time, done as Apostle John had instructed; we both would have found out on our own, what God would, in His abundant mercy, go on to show us later:
1 John 4:1
4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.  KJV
Had I done that, I would have known that these people can't be of God if they are blaspheming Jesus Christ.  And had you tested the spirits, you would have known that a man cannot work miracles for God and yet teach error and lies. But God rescued me by having them foolishly hand me their doctrine, whereupon I compared it to the Scriptures and it came up lacking (to put it mildly).  And God rescued you by putting into your heart a compulsion to steer clear of that man.  God also opened the Scriptures to you partly to show you the chink in that man's armor.  That is a blessing.
 
But then, can evil people act nice?  Why not.  Don't even silly men know that you attract more ants with honey, so that they all come to you that you may stamp them dead in one fell swoop?  How much more then, does satan understand the concept of deceiving his prey into range for destruction! 
 
Can false teachers falsely claim to work for God?  Can they lie in Almighty God's name?  Why not?  Is not their leader even called by our own Lord Jesus Christ, the father of lies?
John 8:44
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it .  KJV
Can false teachers and false preachers have flocks who adore them, who trust them?  Sure.  Is not their spiritual leader, satan, also called the "idol shepherd"?  Well, a shepherd necessarily must needs have a flock, else he isn't shepherding anything:
 
PS:  God is very angry in the below.  And keep an eye out for the prophecy of the betrayal of Jesus Christ (I will point it out).  Also observe that God allows satan/atichrist to come, yea, He even sends him--because of the sins of the people.  We are not far from this moment today:
Zechariah 11:6-17
6 For I will no more pity the inhabitants of the land, saith the LORD: but, lo, I will deliver the men every one into his neighbour's hand, and into the hand of his king: and they shall smite the land, and out of their hand I will not deliver them.
7 And I will feed the flock of slaughter, even you, O poor of the flock. And I took unto me two staves; the one I called Beauty, and the other I called Bands; and I fed the flock.
8 Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me.
9 Then said I, I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another.
10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it assunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock [humble, good] that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD.
12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. [The price that Jesus would later be betrayed for—this is why God is so angry in this Scripture—it prophecies the cutting off (killing) of Messiah]
13 And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD. [these thirty pieces would be cast to the floor by Judas Iscariot, in the Temple, to the Jewish rabbis; whom would then go on to use them to buy "Potter's Field" (Mat 27:6-7)]
14 Then I cut asunder mine other staff, even Bands, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.
15 And the LORD said unto me, Take unto thee yet the instruments of a foolish shepherd.
16 For, lo, I will raise up a shepherd in the land, which shall not visit those that be cut off, neither shall seek the young one, nor heal that that is broken, nor feed that that standeth still: but he shall eat the flesh of the fat, and tear their claws in pieces. [This is the exact opposite of what Jesus came to do! (Lk 4:17-21)]
17 Woe to the idol shepherd [satan/antichrist and his false ministers] that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.  KJV
Definitions, verse 15:
foolish:  hebrew word #196  'eviliy (ev-ee-lee'); from OT:191; silly, foolish; hence (morally) impious:  KJV - foolish.
 
shepherd (first occurrence of word [verse 15]): Hebrew word #7462  ra` ah (raw-aw'); a primitive root; to tend a flock; i.e. pasture it; intransitively, to graze (literally or figuratively); generally to rule; by extension, to associate with (as a friend):  KJV -  break, companion, keep company with, devour, eat up, evil entreat, feed, use as a friend, make friendship with, herdman, keep [sheeper]-), pastor, shearing house, shepherd, wander, waste.
Definitions, verse 17:
idol: Hebrew word #457  'eliyl (el-eel'); apparently from OT:408; good for nothing, by anal. vain or vanity; specifically an idol: KJV - idol, no value, thing of nought.
 
shepherd (second occurrence of word [verse 17]): Hebrew word #7473 ro` iy (ro-ee'); from active participle of OT:7462; pastoral; as noun, a shepherd:  KJV - shepherd.
Can those operating outside of God have apparent powers?
 
Why not?
 
Satan himself, when he comes here as antichrist, shall have power.  That much our Lord warned us of:
Revelation 13:11-18
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.  KJV
And it is written that satan's false ministers shall be as satan in pretended and apparent glory:
2 Corinthians 11:13-15
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming [disguising] themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed [disguised] into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed [disguised] as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.  KJV
transforming/transformed: Greek word #3345 metaschematizo (met-askh-ay-mat-id'-zo); from NT:3326 and a derivative of NT:4976; to transfigure or disguise; figuratively, to apply (by accommodation): KJV - transfer, transform (self).
We cannot know everything about the spiritual realm, which I why I stress that if anyone seemingly has a 'spiritual" experience; pray hard to God in Jesus' name that He let's you know if it in fact was from Him.  He will not hold you guilty if you seek to be innocent.  He will answer your heart.
 
And if satan's false teachers start taking on supernatural abilities as the end comes upon us, as it is; then that would serve to go  long in explaining the below curious statement of Jesus Christ:
Luke 18:7-8
7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?  KJV
And don't forget, Jesus Himself said that false "christs" would come, and deceive many.  He was speaking of THE antichrist alone in that verse, for He said "false christs," stating many, in the plural. 
Matthew 24:24-25
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.  KJV
Apostle John also spoke of these antichrist helpers in the plural; for, he too said, "antichrists" in the plural:
1 John 2:18-19
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists ; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.  KJV
You asked:
"P.S.S.  BTW was it really a cow (Mrs. O'Leary's?) that started the Chicago fire?"
That's how the story goes, anyway
 
And finally, you ask:
"P.S.S.S.  Just a note:  One morning, immediately after swimming, I sat down to pray and I remember thinking--"Wow, this is how my body feels when the Apostle prays for me."  Could this power be an imitation of blood circulating in the body after acroebic exercise?  Thanks again, and God Bless again...."
Answered above. 
 
Peace to you, and may God watch over you and protect you from any negative spirit, and teach you to discern--in Jesus Christ's powerful name!  Amen.
 
Amen?
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 Scriptural documentation, for parent of teenage daughter, that God requires her virginity until marriage


A reader asks:

Hey Nick,
I have a 15 year old daughter and she wants me to document where in the Bible it says to stay a virgin until marriage.  I read your answer to the question "Premarital sex; and marrying a mate who is not a Christian", but would love to get the scriptures you used to form your answer so I can present it to her with knowledge and scriptures to back it up.. 

I have studied on your site for years and really appreciate your knowledge of the Word. 

Thanks, Xxxxxxxxxx

 

Answer:

 

Hello; I commend you on the honest and frank manner with which your daughter has been made to feel that she can speak with her father.  I think that if there more father/daughter relationships like that, that there would be a lot fewer vulnerable young girls running around out there, shaming everyone, not the least of all themselves.

     But in today's corrupt world, we have let the Feminists and Homosexuals set curriculum for "Sex Education" classes in our schools.  And as a result, well...we see the moral compass of today's youth down somewhere below the gutter; right about at the level of a Homosexual or Feminist (two champions of both the corruption of Marriage and the Abortion debacle).  And I am not even going to get into by whose hand this travesty of morals is wrought by.  Sometimes I just get sick talking about the "them."  But "they" have their hands into every offense to God.

     Anyway, your daughter has a right to know what God expects of her regarding her "sex life."  And an answer she shall have.  If she believes that the Bible is the Holy written Word of our Lord God, which it is; then she cannot be deceived by some hot "petting" boyfriend into displeasing God by playing the whore.  You may simply print this off and leave it for her, or soften my language and just give her the Scriptures.  But I think that young people need to know that this world is corrupting itself, and that there are evil forces, using men and women, to destroy God's ordered world.  When I speak of them, I do not much fancy "softening the edges."  But if she is mature enough to talk about sex, then she is mature enough to get it strait and unapologetically.

     You decide, you are her legal guardian till she becomes 18.

     Let's address your daughter, and all young girls everywhere, with the Scriptures.  For the Scriptures are the higher authority bearing the very fingerprint of God Himself upon their validity, message, and authority.

First:  What is a virgin?

Genesis 24:16
16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin , neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.  KJV

     We see that a virgin is a female who has not had sexual intercourse with a man.  Nowhere in the Bible is a male ever referred to as a virgin, even when speaking of young boys.  A virgin is strictly a female term.  Often times young girls are called 'virgins" and "Damsels".  In God's eyes, the female is called according to her sexual status.  God insists on virginity out of His daughters.  And while the sons are not to be sleeping around all over town", nowhere is a male in the Scriptures referred to as, or directed to be, a virgin.  "That's not fair" some would say?  Take it up with God when you get there.  But I suspect that God knows a lot more regarding this matter than He is letting on, and that He has very good reasons for so jealously guarding the virginity of His daughters.  Below should serve as admonishment for men who think that they jump from woman to woman to woman:

Romans 13:11-14
11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.  KJV

chambering:  Greek word #2845  koite (koy'-tay); from NT:2749; a couch; by extension cohabitation; by implication, the male sperm:  KJV - bed, chambering, conceive.

NT (New Testament) #2749  keimai (ki'-mahee); middle voice of a primary verb; to lie outstretched (literally or figuratively):  KJV - be (appointed, laid up, made, set), lay, lie. Compare NT:5087.

wantonness:  Greek word #766 aselgeia (as-elg'-i-a); from a compound of NT:1 (as a negative particle) and a presumed selges (of uncertain derivation, but apparently meaning continent); licentiousness (sometimes including other vices):  KJV - filthy, lasciviousness, wantonness.

     And if I was to argue about fairness, I might tell the young girls that it doesn't sound so fair to me that the men went to war and died, while the woman hung out at home munching on fig cakes, popping out babies.  :o)   So, God is fair; He just has certain roles for men and women, and both have a little different parts to them.  But God is always fair.  I'd rather be a virgin at home eating figs than be getting killed by Canaanites all the day long on the field of battle.  :o) 

     In the Word of God; a female is either a virgin (maiden, damsel); a betrothed woman; a wife; a widow; or re-married, making her simply a wife again.  That is how they are reckoned in God's written Word.  A "betrothed woman" is one who is engaged, but not yet sexually active with her fiancée―as Mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, but not yet "touched" by him, when she became pregnant with Jesus Christ by the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit:

     The fact that the Son of God was to come through a virgin should by itself let any young girl know how strongly God feels about their virginity.

Luke 1:26-27
26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
27 To a virgin espoused [betrothed―engaged] to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.   KJV

Matthew 1:22-25
22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
25 And knew her not [no sex] till [until AFTER] she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.  KJV

     Below we glean several things; one, that a woman is to be a virgin at marriage; two, if a man makes a false claim that his new wife was not a virgin, he gets in trouble; three, if a woman is not a virgin at the time of her marriage, she gets in real big trouble.  I know that this is a far cry from how things are today, but that doesn't make today's way right; it just shows how far satan has come in causing us all to fall from grace and to defile ourselves and our women.

Deuteronomy 22:13-21
13 If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her [love less―seek to be freed from] ,
14 And give occasions of speech against her [accuse her of being a tramp and not a virgin on the wedding night] , and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid [virgin] :
15 Then shall the father of the damsel [her who was given to the man as a virgin] , and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity [the parents were given a cloth bearing the blood from her broken hymen as a token from the wedding bed to prove their daughter was virgin] unto the elders [the civil judges of the town] of the city in the gate [the gate of the city, where all matters were settled out in the open in public, so that there be witnesses that a fair and correct Judgement had been made] :
16 And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her [had her for a night and now wants to give her back] ;
17 And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her [made up lies to defame her], saying, I found not thy daughter a maid  [virgin, he was saying that she has been had by another before]; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city.
18 And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him [the liar is convicted by the evidence, and is in trouble];
19 And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel [this is witness that had she been a whore and not a virgin, it would have made her evil]: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days [I know, doesn't sound fair to her, but now he is stuck with her forever.].
20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel [is really was a whore like thger husband claimed, and was not a virgin]:
21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you [had man kept up the directions of the Lord, then we would have very few whorish women running around today.  But we didn't, and now look at the moral state of today's women; they make the men look chaste!].  KJV

     I would think that the above law from God would prove His point on virginity until marriage.  "But, but..that...was in the old days....it's different now...." our little modern day wonders would say.  Sorry, doesn't work; Jesus said that He did not change any of the laws of God with the New Testament. 

Matthew 5:17-18
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.  KJV

     Only that through Jesus Christ and a belief in Him, now, in the New Testament times, we can be FORGIVEN of our sins.  But they are still seen as sins to God and it is much displeasing to God when we mock the blood of Christ by intentionally sinning, and then "taking it to the cross," and dumping the vileness of our own sins on the Son of God whom Himself was sinless.  That isn't right to do, and God isn't so stupid that we can trick Him.  Just go ahead and try it, and see how fast He crumbles the little world of one whom would INTENTIONALLY take advantage of Jesus Christ' loving sacrifice on that Cross!

Galatians 6:7
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked : for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.  KJV

     Many times in the Bible God, through His prophets and apostles, would compare the falling away of His people to false gods with the falling away of the female into whoredoms.  That is how strongly He feels about both.  Observe:

2 Corinthians 11:1-4
11:1 Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.
2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus [a false impostor], whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit [an evil spirit pretending to be the holy Spirit], which ye have not received, or another gospel [false teaching], which ye have not accepted, ye might well [it might really happen that you do] bear with him [be deceived into sinning by the craftiness of the wicked one].  KJV

     Below is a Scripture that goes into a different direction, but I excerpt the beginning of it because it plainly shows that there is a difference between a virgin (untouched) and a wife (sexually active with her husband), and that the term "virgin" is synonymous (the same thing as) with being an "unmarried woman."  In other words, if she ain't a virgin, then she better be married.  Observe:

1 Corinthians 7:34
34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin . The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.  KJV

     In the below we see that when a virgin has sex, she marries.  Today's modern day corrupted women have had many husbands (sex partners"), thus making them all guilty of the sin of adultery after their first "partner" (that's one of the "Big Ten" [Ten Commandments!]) :

1 Corinthians 7:28
28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.  KJV

     We could go on and on in the Scriptures.  And if I have not made the point well, I shall be happy to follow this up with more Scriptures.  But why 'beat a dead horse,' I feel that the point was amply made.

     So, now, next; suppose that our little virgin isn't really a virgin anymore?  Suppose that a young girl has defiled herself with a man before marriage?  Well, if she is a Christian she may repent to God in Jesus Christ's name and be washed clean by the blood of the Lamb.  She must simply repent ALONE to God, she needn't tell anyone else.  It is not for us to shame any sinner, for we all have committed sins before and wouldn't like everybody hearing our personal shame.  God is the forgiver in Jesus' name.  He does not require us to repent of sins before man, like the corrupt Catholic Church requires.  Priests can't forgive sins, only God can; so why should we reveal our secrets and our shame to them!

     And once the young girl has repented, she is a virgin in God's eyes again.  She must then carry her vow of chastity to her wedding bed.

     And she will be fine, and well blessed by her God and Savior Jesus Christ.  For so few young people even give a darn about obeying and pleasing God; that makes them all the more special to Him who do.

God bless you, sir; and tell your daughter that she has a good man for a father.

     A word to parents:  Due to the (orchestrated) campaign (by you know who) of putting certain chemicals, which effect the secondary sexual hormones, into our foods and food containers, and in pesticides and certain plastics, and in other foodstuffs processing; young girls are developing breasts and hips (and menstruating!) as young as eleven and twelve nowadays.  Then mom paints little Missy's eyes with mascara and paints her lips with lipstick at thirteen, making her look like a little woman.  Then at fourteen mom let's little Molly go out of the house dressed like a stripper, with low cut shirts and belly shirts and tight form-fitting pants that leave little to the imagination.  Then old stupid mom and dad look at each other in bewilderment when little Stacy comes up pregnant at fifteen!

Duh!  You sexualized her!  At way too young of an age.  Not to mention the handy work of the Judaic controlled media which is one huge lust indoctrination, and where the sluttiest women are the heroes of the show, and the "uptight" Christian girls (if you can even find one on the Judaic-evision anymore!) are oddballs and idiots, definitely not one of the "cool" girls to be emulated.  And then the Judaic controlled core-curriculum in all schools (by law!), which make adult minds out of children's hearts way too soon.  And naturally the Judaics desensitize these children, both male and female, with Homosexual indoctrination concealed as "safe sex", "Tolerance," and  "Aids Awareness" campaigns run by militant Judaic-financed Gays and Lesbians.

Our little Eve's never had a chance!  And haven't you noticed, little Tommy is starting to act like a Tammy?  And we wonder why!

Peace.

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Nick Goggin

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Is God fair?  Also: Spiritual Bodies vs. Flesh Bodies

 

 

When you talked about spiritual bodies, do you mean that some have spiritual,  immortal bodies (the elect) and the rest that were blinded were in their spiritual bodies but had not obtained immortality until after the judgement of Yah.  The great white throne judgement is the final weeding or purifying of the imperfection to perfection in the eternity.  Why would Christ have to use a rod of Iron to rule which are his elect if they were all good people( handicapped, infants, aborted babies)?  Don't the wicked die at Christ's coming?  And if God blinded some people, even if it was because they were disobedient, shouldn't he give those a chance to see with open eyes the truth?  Isn't that what the millenium is about , so that God is just and fair to all.  I feel you are telling the truth but I'm not clear on the millenium theory.  Thanks for being a blessing to those who are seeking the truth.  Sharon

 

Hello, may I just insert answers along inside your text?

 
You said [I answer]:
 
Q:  "When you talked about spiritual bodies, do you mean that some have spiritual,  immortal bodies (the elect) and the rest that were blinded were in their spiritual bodies but had not obtained immortality until after the judgement of Yah."
A:  No, all have spiritual bodies.  This has nothing at all to do with salvation or eternal life.  A spiritual body is simply you without your flesh.  It was always there inside of you, but we just can't see it.  Your spiritual body is the part that returns to God with your spirit, whilst your flesh body dies in and rots in the grave.  Our study, The Holy Spirit & The Holy Trinity, should help you some, because in discussing the nature of God, we also touch on our nature lightly. 
 
By the way: I am not big on calling God by nicknames.  "Yah" instead of His name Yahovah, I feel is disrespectful.  It is tantamount to calling Margaret, "Marge," or "Margie;" which is fine for humans; but, I feel that God deserves more reverence.  Just a little pet peeve of mine, sorry.
Q:  "The great white throne judgement is the final weeding or purifying of the imperfection to perfection in the eternity."
A:  Perhaps I misunderstand the way that you worded that.  The White Throne Judgement is the final destination of each of God's created souls.  Some to eternal destruction (irreversible and eternal blotting out), and some to eternal life "Heaven."  There is no purifying there, all shall either be in one or the other category at that time, based upon what has already been done.  This is not probation or correction, it is the final Judgement of every soul, both good and bad.
Q:  "Why would Christ have to use a rod of Iron to rule which are his elect if they were all good people( handicapped, infants, aborted babies)?"
A:  The rod that Christ rules with is not human "elect people."  It is His judgments.  We are not as important as some have led people to believe.  God does have endtime servants, yes, but they are man and not deity; and they are only acceptable because of the grace of God bestowed upon them.  Else they too would have let God down like the rest of the creation shall.  Some people get a little too "puffed-up.  And I am not directly referring to you because I don't you, and I may be grossly misunderstanding you.  Below is the rod that you speak of:

Revelation 12:5
5 And she brought forth a man child [Jesus Christ], who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.  KJV
 
Revelation 19:15-16
15 And out of his [Jesus Christ's] mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.  KJV
 
A misreading of verse 26 & 27 below is the root of the "manchild" errant doctrine.  "They" (those who teach that God's elect become this Manchild) err.  Read the Scripture carefully, observing the colons (:) and semi-colons (;) which indicate a form of the period (.), and show changes of thought, statement, subject, object, and sentences:
 
Revelation 2:22-29
22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
28 And I will give him the morning star.
29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.  KJV
 
When in doubt regarding a prophecy, always go back to the original prophecy.  Determine WHO is being referred to.  That is called "rightly dividing the word."  Below we see that Jesus Christ was the one to whom the rod was promised, and that His servants are indeed blessed, but they do not hold the staff of the King.  And it isn't really a rod or stick that Jesus runs around with in His hand; it means His authority, and it is "iron," meaning the strongest:
 
Psalms 2:7-12
7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me [Jesus Christ], Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.  KJV
 
 
Compare:
 
Revelation 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
 
to the: [Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee]:
 
Psalms 2:9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
 
Q:  "Don't the wicked die at Christ's coming?  And if God blinded some people, even if it was because they were disobedient, shouldn't he give those a chance to see with open eyes the truth?"
A:  All flesh dies at Christ's coming.  The overcomers which are alive at the Second Advent are changed (transformed) into their spiritual body.  or better stated, their flesh falls away.  This is what Paul was speaking about.  The wicked are killed thus rendering them into their spiritual bodies.  Their flesh being killed off of them.  This is what Jesus was talking about:
 
But both good and bad put away their flesh and step out in their spiritual bodies (which were always inside of them, they were just covered with flesh).
 
Paul speaks of the overcomer's transfomation:

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.  KJV
 
Enoch and Elijah experienced this manner of transformation:
 
Genesis 5:23-24
23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not ; for God took him.  KJV
 
2 Kings 2:11-13
11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.
13 He took up also the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and went back, and stood by the bank of Jordan;  KJV
 
Notice Elijah's garments (his mantle) were left behind.  But don't make anything out of that like the Rapturists do in their "Left Behind" movies where all the rapture'es leave behind a neatly folded pile of clothing.  :o)  At the end, our bodies shall be left behind; "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." (Ecc 12:7).  
 
Why didn't God leave Elijah and Enoch's bodies behind, you may ask?  Because, had God left Enoch and Elijah's bodies behind, everyone would have thought that God killed them--because we do not understand God.  So He did it a little differently in these two fellow's cases.  "O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!" (Rom 11:33).
 
Jesus transforms (by death) all others:
 
Revelation 19:19-21
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.  KJV
 
But everybody has TWO bodies; both the wicked and the overcomers have both bodies:
 
1 Corinthians 15:44-51
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep [die], but we shall all be changed,  KJV
Q:  "Isn't that what the millenium is about , so that God is just and fair to all.  I feel you are telling the truth but I'm not clear on the millenium theory.  Thanks for being a blessing to those who are seeking the truth.  Sharon"
A:  Thank you for the kind words, I could use them right about now.  A lot of attacks right now (but these things pass); remember me in your prayers, will you?  Anyway, I think that we all have to be more careful with this "God has to be fair" stuff.  And I am as guilty as the next guy, I suppose, at times, for going on with the "God is fair" stuff.  We don't mean it (I don't anyway) to mean that we are judging God by His actions and determining whether they be fair or unfair.  But it can get to sound like that if we aren't careful.  Nevertheless, are we not STRONGLY admonished against this very behavior?
 
Romans 9:17-23
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,  KJV
 
Ezekiel 18:29
29 Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the Lord is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal?  KJV
 
But I know what you mean.  It seems hard to you that some have come through this age of salvation and redemption only to reject it and damn themselves.  You suppose that God should have tinkered with their minds and hearts to cause them to be saved?  For, surely it is in His power.  The same we say when "God allows" innocent children to die: "Surely," we say, "God could have stopped it."  This is entering into realms beyond our pale.  But, consider this:  Remember that WWII movie, called "The Dirty Dozen," (with Ernest Borgnine and James Coleburn), where the military convicts on military death row were sent on a suicide mission into wartime Germany?  Was that fair?  Was it fair to send men--condemned to death--into certain death?  Sure it was fair; they were going to die anyway; might as well die for some good reason.  Perhaps that is the fate of many today; to witness to the great glory of His mercy upon the saved.  And they simply awaiting their fate, for they are "fitted to destruction."  We don't know what God knows, and we need be careful about judging God without all the facts.  Neither dare we judge Him to begin with.  If someone perishes in the eternal destruction, it shall be for God's good reasons.  And seeing, perhaps we shall know that, but for the grace of God, go we.
 
Romans 9:17-23
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,  KJV
 
Peace.
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"Mansions" in Heaven?

 

A reader writes:

 

 

Hello Nick,

 
As I have stated in a previously submitted question, I enjoy your website.  I also appreciate your time to respond to questions and comments.  I have another for you if and when you get time to address it.  I long wondered about the belief of having a "mansion" in heaven.  Many people believe that we will literally have a home/lifestyle like a millionaire would have.  In fact, I have long heard a song which says we will all be millionaires in heaven.  Many popular songs in churches also allude to this in some fashion.  There is no doubt that descriptions of scenes in heaven as are related in the Bible certainly give a picture of beauty akin what we would refer to as "wealth" (streets of gold, precious stones, etc.).  I know that apparently to some extent, there will be things of that nature there, including the mention of the new Jerusalem in Revelation.  That being said, here is my question/opinion.  By what I have studied and read I have become of the opinion that what some have viewed as a literal house/mansion is actually our immortal, glorified bodies.  One example that brought me to that conclusion is the following statement by Paul:
 
2 Corinthians 5:1: For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
5:2: For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven.
5:3:  If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
5:4: For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
 
  I feel that this is the same thing Christ was referring to when he said:
 
John 14:2:  In my Father's house are many mansions:  if it were not so, I would have told you.  I go to prepare a place for you.
John 14:3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself, that where I am, there ye may be also.
 
 
  While one can interpret that to be a literal "house", why would we need one?  A house in this world provides shelter, a means of family being together, etc., things which we will no longer have a physical, fleshly need for.  David spoke numerous times in Psalms about dwelling in the house of the Lord, which I interpret to being in his presence/heaven.   I think sometimes we limit our ability to understand the correct meaning in the Bible by thinking in a worldly fashion without realizing it.  I am just curious as to your opinion about this.
 
Thanks for your time,
 
Xxxxxxx in Alabama
 
 

 

Answer:

 

Hello.  It obviously is metaphor, for how can there be "many" "mansions" inside of a "house"?  When a Scripture seems unintelligible, we must look at whether or not it is "parable" of sorts, or that it is speaking symbolically.  (We must also look to see if it isn't us who are simply not understanding it.)  The Scripture:
John 14:2
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.  KJV
The word "mansions" is:
mansions: Greek word #3438  mone (mon-ay'); from NT:3306; a staying, i.e. residence (the act or the place):  KJV - abode, mansion.
Every occurrence in the King James Bible of mone:
Mark 4:10
10 And when he was alone [mone], they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.  KJV

John 14:2
2 In my Father's house are many mansions [mone]: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.  KJV

John 14:23
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode [mone] with him.  KJV
Our Scripture in context:
John 14:1-6
14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.  KJV
In other words, in Heaven (God's house) there are many dwellings for many different peoples, and there is a place for all who are prepared by Jesus Christ for that expansive place.  There is room for Apostles and for common folk as well [but only in Christ--only Christians, I might add!].  Perhaps, understanding this, is the reason why the Disciples asked which of them would be the "greatest" in Heaven?
 
Gold, diamonds, and pearls, are the lust of flesh man; however, they mean absolutely nothing to spiritual entities (angels, as we shall one day be, when we are back "in Heaven.").
 
Those so-called "church folks" desiring great riches of metals and gems in Heaven are just showing their carnal lusts and their lack of understanding their God.  Jesus spoke with this sort before:
Mark 12:20-25
20 Now there were seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and dying left no seed.
21 And the second took her, and died, neither left he any seed: and the third likewise.
22 And the seven had her, and left no seed: last of all the woman died also.
23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.  KJV
Peace, and thank you for the kind words.
 
PS:  With the BibleSoft computer software you can do detailed searches as I have done above.  From our homepage I reproduce the below:
 
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The Acronym of Jacob/Israel's tomb.  Also, who is Israel and who is Jerusalem in prophecy?

 

A reader writes:

"Hi Watchmen's Bible Study, I have so enjoyed the material that you have posted. I find it all such a tremendous help. God Bless you and all your spiritual lead efforts. I am blessed!

Q. I study with Shepherd's Chapel and Pastor was doing a study and during the study he made note that Isaac and Sarah, Rachel and Leah were all buried (?) at the same place and the names spelled out Israel. I found this bit of history so fascinating!

Also? Where is the United State's of America mentioned in the Bible? I am going to check out your site and see if I can fine if you have had this question before. May God continue to show His favor upon this site and your ministry. Thank you Your Sister in Christ Xxxxxx"


Answer:

Hello; thank you for the kind words.  You asked:
"I study with Shepherd's Chapel and Pastor was doing a study and during the study he made note that Isaac and Sarah, Rachel and Leah were all buried (?) at the same place and the names spelled out Israel."
You can find that in the below Scripture:
Genesis 49:30-33
30 In the cave that is in the field of Machpelah, which is before Mamre, in the land of Canaan, which Abraham bought with the field of Ephron the Hittite for a possession of a buryingplace.
31 There they buried Abraham and Sarah his wife; there they buried Isaac and Rebekah his wife; and there I buried Leah.
32 The purchase of the field and of the cave that is therein was from the children of Heth.
33 And when Jacob had made an end of commanding his sons, he gathered up his feet into the bed, and yielded up the ghost, and was gathered unto his people.  KJV

     Since you have studied under Pastor Murray you know the below.  But for the benefit of readers who have not, allow me to explain the significance/phenomenon of this.  Below we see that Jacob passed away (whom God changed his name to "Israel" in Gen 32:28 "...Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel...."):

Genesis 49:33
33 And when Jacob [Israel] had made an end of commanding his sons, he gathered up his feet into the bed, and yielded up the ghost, and was gathered unto his people.  KJV

Then, according his last wishes, Jacob/Israel's sons bury him in a very particular tomb:

Genesis 50:13
13 For his sons carried him [Jacob/Israel] into the land of Canaan, and buried him in the cave of the field of Machpelah, which Abraham bought with the field for a possession of a buryingplace of Ephron the Hittite, before Mamre.  KJV
Genesis 49:30-33
30 In the cave that is in the field of Machpelah, which is before Mamre, in the land of Canaan, which Abraham bought with the field of Ephron the Hittite for a possession of a buryingplace.
31 There they buried Abraham and Sarah his wife; there they buried Isaac and Rebekah his wife; and there I buried Leah.

     So that Jacob/Israel was buried in the tomb which bore his name (by an Acronym of the five names of those buried there before him:

“There they buried Abraham and Sarah his wife; there they buried
Isaac and Rebekah his wife; and there I buried Leah.” — Genesis 49:31

  English; reads left to right:
   Isaac  Sarah  Rebekah  Abraham  Leah

  Hebrew; reads right to left:
   heaL  maharbA  hakebeR  haraS  caasI

 
 
You went on to ask:
"Also? Where is the United State's of America mentioned in the Bible?"
     My opinion is that the U.S. (as the heir of the Christian Western nations) is "Israel" in prophecy, because that where the [true] Israel people are [the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic & kindred peoples]; and that Jerusalem in prophecy is the Jerusalem in the Middle East (in the modern-day anti-Sate of anti-Israel [not sanctioned by God--antichrist's seat to come]).
 
     Notice that there are distinct and DIFFERENT prophecies for "Israel" and for "Jerusalem."  That is because they are two entirely different geographical locations.  Being cognizant of this shall open up many of the confusing and seemingly contradictory endtime prophecies for Israel and for Jerusalem.
 
Peace to you.
 
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