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The trail of
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'Dominionism'
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Immoral
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How to pick a
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corrupted by publishers; Also, the 1611 King James version Bible is the
true Word of God in the English language.
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Another Catholic defends the Catholic's
spiritually unhealthy (and UNbiblical) "over-adoration" (worship in
everything but name) of Mother Mary
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The trail of the serpent
A reader writes:
Hi. I am a student of (a certain television
preacher) :) and have studied with his Chapel for several
years. I actually found your site by accident. I usually visit
a forum started by students that study under this pastor.
Years ago I ordered his tape "the mark of the
beast" and I was particularly drawn to the beast system articles
you have on your site. I have read other sites that give the
same information as your articles and I have not rejected it,
however I had had some problems with their loosing credibility
by posting other more "out there stuff" . I am not one to throw
the baby out with the bathwater and know we are to be able to
sift the wheat from the chafe, however, I wanted to just drop
you a note and say that you presented the information in a very
well document, thought out way without over sensationalizing it
(although on its own it is pretty sensational as far as the
breadth one has to open their mind to in order not to vomit it
out)
One thing that stuck out to me was in the this
particular tape I was referring to, Satan and the mark of the
beast, there was one part where Pastor M stated it was like
stones worn smooth over time. This certainly would fit this
invisible beast being formed, generation to generation behind
the scenes that you painted. And the one thing about stones
being worn smooth over time, it is familiar, always been for a
long time. I guess the point I am trying to make is these plans
have been in the works since before I was born. The foundation
was laid before I even got here and I have grown up under its
shadow. (48 years) The things I have been taught have really
been a lie as far as what I innocently have been condition to
learn as far as patriotism, sovereignty, and our government.
I think one site I was reading on the illuminati
quoted Shakespeare - "the whole world is a stage" and that
definitely has stayed with me and this would certainly fit how
craftily Satan has set his plan out.
Answer:
Hello [xxxxx], Thank you for the kind words of
encouragement. As you can tell, pastor Murray is highly respected by
myself even though we are not always in 100% agreement on details.
May I comment on one of your points? You said:
"certainly would fit this invisible beast being
formed, generation to generation behind the scenes that you
painted. And the one thing about stones being worn smooth over
time, it is familiar, always been for a long time. I guess the
point I am trying to make is these plans have been in the works
since before I was born. The foundation was laid before I even got
here and I have grown up under its shadow. (48 years)"
Oh, it began long ago.
The Freemasons have a tradition that their craft goes back to King
Solomon, but the conspiracy itself began long before him; modern
Freemasonry only being a tool of the conspiracy of satan, taken over by
Cabbalist Illuminati Jews circa 400 years ago or so.
The conspiracy itself began in the Garden of
Eden; or, if you really want to trace it, it began at "the
world that then was" (2nd Peter 3:6). The modern expression of
the conspiracy became noticeable at the French Revolution. That is when
International Jewry began to noticeably excerpt control over
the civilized Christian nations, plunging them into wars and revolutions
designed to break them and lead us up to a world such as we have today.
But the main plan was in operation before the Khazars hit the scene. (The
Khazars [pronounced: Cah·zarre, or: Cah as in common,
and, zarre as in bizarre] are the ancestors of the main body of so-called
"Jews" of today, the Ashkenazi Jews [92%-96% of all "Jews"
today] descending from those Khazars of circa 7th-10th century
A.D.).
The course of the ancient serpent wove its way
from the Garden of God (Garden of Eden) to Sumer, moving through great
Egypt, Assyria, on to Babylon for a moment, passing through Persia and
Media generally, Greece and Rome respectively, back to Babylon, through
Khazaria, flooding into Eastern Europe, slithering through halls of
power and thrones a many, saturating all of Europe darkening it with the
blood of many innocents, establishing a notable strong hold in the City
of London, and finally settling in America where it is
currently making plans to return to its coveted position on Mount
Moriah, the Temple Mount, Jerusalem, God's favorite place on Earth, whence
comes the end. Wherever is found international power there find
you the serpent's notable men—the International Judaics so-called today.
These men are no more Hebrew or Israelite than the 92%-96% of modern day
Khazar "Jews" are. They are impostors, not the inheritors of any
Covenant of God, not the rightful owners of the nation-state of "Israel"
in Palestine, and most certainly not the "Chosen of God People."
And the only way for them to avoid eternal damnation is through
conversion to Jesus Christ and the receiving of the Holy Spirit which
accompanies such a conversion—just as with any other technical heathen
such as Moslems, Buddhists, Atheists, etc., et al. Since
Jesus Christ was offered, all others on this earth other than
Christians are considered in the Bible to be heathens. In the
Bible, following a false god does not make you "religious." Only
in our corrupt world is a false-god worshipper considered "religious,"
and accorded the respectful title of "a person of faith." God had
quite another word for them. That is why the Bible needed to be
discredited by the conspirators; for, with the Bible still held by the
people to be the literal words of God, how could they be deceived into
worshipping the antichrist; that is to say, worship satan as God (2nd
Thes 2:4)?
We have all grown up under its shadow, and
therefore the average person cannot detect it (the conspiracy of satan,
the symbolic serpent that trails through and coils the world). As
society and rules and morals change, the general population is changed
fundamentally from within—they do not realize that they have been
changed. I myself am 47 years old, and I am sure that you being 48 can
agree with me that society has changed drastically just in our adult
years. Morals have degraded, things that were once plainly wrong to
society are now heralded as "progression," "enlightenment." And those
who advocate "the old ways" are labeled as bigots and exclusionists. I
speak of Homosexuality, Abortion, un-virtuous women, rejection of God
and Christ, general dishonesty, infidelities, etc.
Satan could not take over this world until he
deluded the Christians, both morally and spiritually; for, what man
thinks, he is. And when mankind thinks filth and blasphemy he is filthy
and blasphemous.
Satan is doing, and has done that (deluded the
Christians and all others), by way of his chosen servants on this Earth,
the International Judaics and their attendant witting and unwitting
minions, both Jewish and non-Jew alike.
The generation before ours was twice as moral
than we are, and the generation that follows us (our children) are half
as moral as even we are. There are exceptions, of course; but
generally, America and Americans are so far from living a Biblical
lifestyle that I shudder at the thought of what God really thinks of
us. God foresaw all of this. If you read the below description of the
pre-Tribulation world—the world as it is to be immediately preceding the
Great Tribulation (for, that is the end times)—one can't help
but thinking that he is reading a modern day newspaper, monthly women's
magazine, Prime Time television programming, and the nightly news. In
other words, we are almost THERE:
2 Tim 3:1-8
This know also,
that in the last days perilous times
shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters,
proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers,
incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers
of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from
such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead
captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the
truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist
the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
KJV
Does anything define the modern state of "Christian America" (and
all of the "Christian Western Nations") any better than God just did in
the above Scripture? I think not!
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'Dominionism' precariously leading towards Noahide
Law
A reader writes:
I am sure you are aware of a controversial religious / political
movement known as Christian reconstructionalism or dominionism. It
seems the issue of controversy is rooted in the modern day
application of Mosaic Law. I perceive deep divisions among
Christians based on varying interpretations regarding whether moral,
ceremonial, and or judicial law from the Torah apply to Christians.
The debate I have found myself caught in is whether advocating the
execution of adulterers, homosexuals, kidnappers, etc is
"Christian". Reconstructionalists (Dominionists) are working toward
Mosaic Law becoming the basis of a criminal code for the United
States, or whatever nation they may be active in; which would call
for the arrest and execution of adulterers, homosexuals, etc in
addition to murderers, kidnappers, etc. Should Christians support
the execution of homosexuals and other sinners guilty of moral
transgressions by their representative government? Should Christians
support reconstruction movements in general? I was hoping you could
address this movement as well as your understanding of the role
Mosaic Law should have in the Christian mind. This has become a very
crucial area of my studies.
Sincerely,
[Xxxxxx]
Answer:
Hello. As I understand it, "Dominionism," in its simplest form, is a movement
seeking to bring the United States under the laws of the Bible.
And in its most extreme form and through a strict reading of the
Holy Scriptures that would necessitate the enforcing of the Bible's
several Capital Offenses (idolatry, murder, adultery, homosexuality,
bestiality, the killing of a fetus, witchcraft,
pre-marital/out-of-wedlock sex [for females only], etc.).
I would add that there are many groups involved
in this theology and that they do not agree among themselves as to
the degree of enforcement or even as to ultimate doctrine and
procedure. So, the above is a generalized
statement. I'm sure that you understand. It's kind of
like the false doctrine of Rapture, there are many variations
of this teaching and even the several Rapturists groups cannot agree
with one another on key elements of the doctrine such as its timing,
scope,
etc.
And by your manner of speech, the use of the term
"Torah," reference to the "Mosaic Law," and your
very "Jewish" first name which
you supplied, it would appear to me that you are a Jewish fellow.
And that is fine, many "Jews" read here; however, it must be understood that when a Judaic
uses the term "Torah" he is including the Jewish Talmud onto
the Old Testament—two documents which are as far apart as night is
from day. The Judaics call the Old Testament the written Torah
and the Babylonian Talmud the spoken Torah. Many
Christians are unaware of that doublespeak.
That having been said, what is happening with
this movement is that Christians are being duped into becoming
Noahides. I am sure that you have heard of Noahides (Noachides
by Jewish spelling). An article in the Jewish Encyclopedia
describing Noahides (i.e., a non-Jewish "Jew") can be found here:
LAWS, NOACHIAN. And the dangerous slavery that becoming a
Noahide is, is found here on an official Noahide Website,
The Law is Only a
Minimum, where we read:
" Noachides
should pray, at least once every day. There are specific rules
how prayer should be done, rules that are routinely violated
(out of sheer ignorance) by Christians. There is a proper
way to pray, and a wrong way. . . . The Noachide commandment of
"justice" primarily means teaching one's neighbors, friends,
associates, etc., the details of the Noachide code, and that G-d
sees and hears everything, rewarding every good deed and
punishing every sin. This means outreach. Noachides must turn
Christians away from their idolatry and their disregard of
G-d's Law, and must bring all gentiles to a full acceptance of
G-d's Law, including the oral Torah
[the Jew's Babylonian Talmud] and
the complete authority of the orthodox rabbis. . . .
Noachides must also aggressively combat the schemes of Christian
missionaries, who are stealing Jewish--and gentile--souls
away from eternal life under G-d's Law to the
evil of Christian idolatry. . . . All the above
recommendations will accelerate the revelation of Moshiach
(the Messiah), so there is no time to waste. Let's get to
work!"
—
Source
Becoming a Noahide is an accual religious
conversion. The Jews seek to make proselytes (religious
converts) out of "Gentiles" (notably Christians), but they are not
considered to be "whole Jews," and have less rights than "natural
Jews." Jesus warned of this:
Matthew 23:13
15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea
and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make
him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. KJV
That should also settle the matter as to what God
thinks of Judaism and its adherents; for, modern day Judaism traces
directly back the Pharisees—it is the same religion. And in
today's corrupted form of Christianity, the so-called Christian
clergy of today betray Christ by reverencing Judaism which had Him
murdered, calling Judaism "Christianity's older sister in the
faith." Notably the Evangelical heretic, pastor John Hagee,
who claims that Jews don't need Jesus Christ to attain eternal life
because of the simple fact that they are "Jews" and "God's Chosen
people;" and the Catholic Church under the late Pope Paul II who
said the Jews don't need Jesus Christ because they are "covered by
the First Covenant of the Law." Can anyone say that
Christianity today is not corrupt!
And any Christian that becomes a Noahide has sealed for him/herself a
place in hell next to the rabbis and their subjects.
And rightly so; for, to become a Noahide (i.e., a non-Jewish
"Jew") one must renounce Jesus Christ as an impostor. All who
deny Jesus Christ shall not be saved; so says the Messiah (Moshiach
in Hebrew) Jesus Christ: "Jesus
saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no
man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
(John 14:6). The Jews killed the Messiah from God, Jesus
Christ; and now they brazenly declare that they are still waiting
for the Messiah from God! And Noahides shall share in the
eternal fate of these antichrists should they willingly submit to
'Judaism for Gentiles' (the seven Noahide Laws of the Talmud).
It should also be noted that when a Jew speaks of
idolatry, and when he speaks of an incidence of idolatry, he is
including the Christian's worship of Jesus Christ as Lord and
Savior. The punishment for violating the Seven Laws of Noah is
death by decapitation (beheading — see the ominous reference to
these Christian's beheadings in Rev 20:4), as the link above to the
Jewish Encyclopedia documents:
In the elaboration
of these seven Noachian laws,
and in assigning punishments for their transgression, the Rabbis
are sometimes more lenient and sometimes more rigorous with
Noachidć than with Israelites. With but a few exceptions, the
punishment meted out to a Noachid for the transgression
of any of the seven
laws is
decapitation, the least painful
of the four modes of
execution of criminals ( see
Capital Punishment).
The many formalities of procedure
essential when the accused is an Israelite need not be observed
in the case of the Noachid. The
latter may be convicted on the testimony
of one witness, even on that of
relatives, but not on that of a
woman. He need have had no warning ("hatra'ah") from the
witnesses; and a single judge may pass sentence on him (ib.
57a, b; "Yad," l.c. ix. 14). With regard to
idolatry, he can be found guilty only if he worshiped an
idol in the regular form in which that particular deity is
usually worshiped
[i.e.,
praying "in Jesus' name," etc.];
while in the case of blasphemy he
may be found guilty, even when he has blasphemed with one
of the attributes of God's
name—an action which, if committed by an Israelite
[i.e., a "Jew"],
would not be regarded as criminal (ib. 56b;
see
Blasphemy).
— The Jewish Encyclopedia.
1901-1906. Chapter: LAWS, NOACHIAN. Subheading: Laws
Before Sinai. Pg. 649. Facsimile of
page. On-line
source.
And the above is from a reliable source and one that is undeniable,
it is from the revered Jewish Encyclopedia itself! So
let no self-righteous Judaic try to go into "denial" and "forgery
claim" mode, as they do with their Protocols of the Learned
Elders of Zion and every other leaked document damaging to their
self made pristine image. Therefore, in other words, under
the Jewish laws for non-Jews (the Noahide Laws) the very act of
being a Christian is a Capital Offence. In the Tribulation the
only way for a Christian under Jewish rule to remain alive is to renounce
Jesus Christ—thus saving their body alive but condemning their souls
along with their Jewish persecutor's souls. It should not be
missed by the reader that God prophesied that in the endtimes
Christians would be
beheaded (decapitated)
by antichrists for the worship of and faith in Jesus Christ:
Rev 20:1-4
20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of
the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the
Devil, and Satan
[the
"Jew's" god of their Talmud and Kabbalah],
and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set
a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more,
till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he
must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was
given unto them: and I saw the souls of them
that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the
word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his
image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in
their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a
thousand years. KJV
I realize that this is way more than you asked
for, but it is impossible to speak of Christians going back to
living under the Law without mentioning that it is a trap set by
the Judaics to snare them. In effect, the Christians of the
Tribulation will be forced to carry out the Tribulation martyrdoms
of their own fellows by the very laws that they agreed to. I
quote again from the above regarding the "'duties" of all "good"
Noahides:
The Noachide commandment of "justice" primarily means
teaching one's neighbors, friends, associates, etc., the
details of the Noachide code, and that G-d sees and hears
everything, rewarding every good deed and punishing every sin.
This means outreach. Noachides must turn Christians
away from their idolatry and their disregard of G-d's
Law
[and
presumably turn-in and deliver-up any who refuse],
and must bring all gentiles to a full acceptance
of G-d's Law, including the oral Torah
[the Jew's Babylonian Talmud] and
the complete authority of the orthodox rabbis
[antichrists].
This of course finds its compliment in the
prophesies of God's Bible regarding the Tribulation:
Luke 21:16-19
16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and
kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be
put to death.
17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
19 In your patience possess ye your souls. KJV
Matt 24:8-13
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill
you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one
another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax
cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be
saved. KJV
Matt 10:17-23
17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the
councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my
sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.
19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye
shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye
shall speak.
20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father
which speaketh in you.
21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and
the father the child: and the children shall rise up against
their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he
that endureth to the end shall be saved.
23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into
another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over
the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. KJV
Mark 13:9-13
9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to
councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall
be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony
against them.
10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no
thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye
premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour,
that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.
12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the
father the son; and children shall rise up against their
parents, and shall cause them to be put to death.
13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he
that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
KJV
Can't believe it will happen? it is
already happening, and the Dominionists are just the vanguard of
Christian endtime traitors. There are many more false
Christians rising in these troublous endtimes. Pastor Rev.
John Hagee and his apostate Evangelical Christians are one notable
example among many.
A
Noahide has been trained and will view a Biblical Christian as an idolater worthy of only
conversion or death by decapitation. Noahides are no more a
friend to true Christians than are Judaics their friend.
In the above paragraph I gave the truest
definition of a Dominionist. A Dominionist is one who
advocates going back to the Old Testament Law, going back to that
which Jesus Christ saved us from. To the Dominionist, Jesus'
work on Earth was for not. And to any person who believes that
salvation is attained by a perfect adherence to the Commandments of
God, Jesus Christ is unnecessary. But God was very specific,
we are now saved by grace through faith upon Jesus Christ, and not
by works or sinless lives.
Ephesians 2:1-9
1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world,
according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now
worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts
of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and
were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved
us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with
Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly
places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his
grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of
yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. KJV
I will give you the answer that you are looking
for; however, it shall not be satisfying to you. The reason
that it will not help you is that it is impossible—the Dominionist
Movement is impossible, that is. Those who are trying to or
advocating a going back to the Old Testament Law are not really
Christians, they are play-actors. Consider them the Christian
equivalent of the Jewish Pharisees.
You asked should Christian nations go back to the Old Testament Law
of executing murders, homosexuals, etc? Well, had we
never left off of it there would be very few murderers and no
homosexuals. However, we did reject God's Law and now it is
not possible to take it up again.
Earlier I stated that Dominionism theology was
impossible today to enact. The reason that I said that was
because the same group of people that are controlling the
Dominionists are the ones that are controlling the Homosexual
Revolution, etc. I speak of the International Judaics
who control this world for their god satan. This is something that an alarmingly increasing
number of Christians seem unaware of.
The problem today is that people think that they can
"fix" this world, or that they can produce a Heaven on Earth.
What they do not realize is that this world is going to implode and
that man shall fail on Earth, satan shall rise to become the god of
this world, and the churches shall tragically fail their appointed
mission. What we are doing today is living through the final
days of a failed humanity, awaiting the final wrath of God upon this
Earth. And any group that thinks that they can "fix this
world" are Bible illiterates. All the Gospels, many of Paul's
writings, Jude, Peter, and the book of Revelation, all speak of a
failed world in the endtimes that shall be purged at Christ's Second
Advent. So, by what authority does any group or movement have
to imagine that they can right this floundering ship?
The Dominionist Movement is a Judaic snare to
discredit Christianity. And it is just one more nail in the
coffin of a failed Christian church upon this earth.
[Xxxxxx], no offence intended towards you
personally. But you asked a question and no doubt wanted it
hard and honest, as I see it. Feel free to follow-up.
Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
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Immoral occupations
A (female) reader writes:
I've been visiting your site for about a year now. I do
absolutely believe in God and Jesus Christ with all my heart. I
have a very hard subject to bring up, most Christians give me a hard
time about my occupation. I have tried multiple times in the past
of getting a strait job, but I either end up getting fired or end up
having to quit because I can't afford rent and groceries.
I'm a
stripper and I have been a prostitute a couple of times in the past,
but not for several years because I have a boyfriend that ive been
with for about [several] years. I live in
[Xxxxxxxxx], and my family lives in
[Xxxxxxxxx], they do not know what I do, they
think i'm still a [Xxxxxxxxx] (the only real
job I absolutely loved and wished I still had!) A long time ago, I
even used to [a strait occupation] but that
did not work out...
If stripping is so bad, why are the people in real jobs treat you
worse? The main reason I want to get out of stripping is because I
love God and I know that stripping is not what He wants me to be
doing. But I feel stuck, and what am I supposed to be doing? A
secondary reason why I want to quit is because I cant stand being
dishonest with my family. I pray for them often because the don't
believe in the true God and His word. Every time I bring it up no
matter how politely it just ends up causing an argument. The girls
I dance with are easier to talk to (and are interested) about God
than my own family!
One of [employees] at the club i work at is
a Christian, and he seems to believe in God's Word. He's working
[more than one] jobs just to make ends meet.
I had a discussion with him about God and His Word. I told him how
bad I felt and that I had tried getting a real job in the past. He
tried to give me some words of comfort and that God had said in the
(KJV) Bible that times would be very hard, and he says its okay
because we're both doing the best we can to survive no matter what
occupation we have.
I'm still very scared, when Tribulation is all done and over with
and Judgement Day is here and I have to face God himself, for my
judgement, I know I'll have to answer for my lifestyle, but i'm not
dancing to get rich, i'm not doing it for my health, i'm doing it to
survive and it's been the only job i've been able to keep! I'm
scared, what do I do? I'm asking you Mr. Goggin, because you (other
than my friend [Xxxxxxxxx], who referred me to
your website) are the Best Christian that I know.
ps: when is your book coming out?
Answer:
Hello [Xxxxxx]. Thank you so much for the kind words. As regarding your
past sins of prostitution: they are past if you have repented.
And I am sure that you know that prostitution is a sin (as is
Homosexuality/Lesbianism/Bi-Sexuality).
God speaks to his people Israel long ago:
Leviticus 19:29
29 Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to
be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of
wickedness. KJV
Deuteronomy 23:17
17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of
Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel. KJV
God forbade His people not to these things, and today, through Jesus
Christ, we can all be the people (children) of God; therefore those
admonishments written to Israel in the Old Testament apply to all
Christians today.
Romans 8:11-17
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus
from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall
also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit
[the Holy Spirit] that
dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the
flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die:
but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall
live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God,
they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage
again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption,
whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our
spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs
of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we
suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. KJV
I am also sure that you have repented to God, in Jesus Christ's name,
for those sins; so they are gone. Poof! It is as if they never
happened, in God's eyes. So you need not bring those sins up again.
We have all done things that we are ashamed of—all of us—every single
Christian that has ever lived or will live.
Regarding the stripping: is it a sin? Well, it isn't written (other
than under the general morality statues), and perhaps you aren't any worse
than the men who pay to watch you. And perhaps it is likened to looking at
pornography; as it isn't listed specifically in the Bible, but every
Christian knows that it is wrong. They don't need to be told, God puts it
in their heart in the form of a conscience.
There are many things which are sinful but that are not specifically
spoken of in the Bible; for, it is written that: "All
unrighteousness is sin" (1st John 5:17a). The simple rule of thumb
is that if it feels wrong; guess what, Christian? It is wrong.
You will notice that I am addressing Christians in particular throughout
this Q & A; for, what profit is there for an unbeliever to live a moral
life, when they are going to perish anyway? (See verse twelve below.)
1 John 5:10-20
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the
witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar;
because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given
to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he
that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that
believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have
eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
14 And this is the confidence that we have in him,
that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we
ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.
16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is
not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that
sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he
shall pray for it.
17 All unrighteousness is sin:
and there is a sin not unto death.
18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth
not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one
toucheth him not.
19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole
world lieth in wickedness.
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and
hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and
we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the
true God, and eternal life. KJV
Now, regarding your stripping (and men's use of pornography, I might
add), it is most certainly not Christ-like, it is not moral, it is not
decent, and it is not victimless. You know this deep inside (as does any
Christian man with half a conscience). Many families have been broken apart
due to pornography; I know, I have received letters from distraught wives.
And many young women have been destroyed through stripping and prostitution
and porn making. In times past I have been to "Bachelor Parties" (I
wouldn't go now), so I know that there is a very fine line between stripping
and prostitution, when look turns into touch. In
addition, when a man's money pays a stripper to "do or simulate doing things
to herself" on the stage (or with others), he is really paying to produce
his own porn act. There lies the grave sin to the man. Enough on that
matter; I trust that the men heard loud and clear what was just said.
I needn't receive letters from men about porn, they know in their heart that
it is wrong, or they wouldn't be asking. Pornography viewing is a deep
abyss that draws men down. And as with drug abuse, some are affected
more than others.
But most of all, you are a Christian, Christ died for you. You
are doing unChristian things in a house of iniquity, surrounded by
evil people, making money for wicked people who peddle more vice to destroy
the morals and souls of scores of other people (the latter also applies to
men who buy porn). You are better than that, you deserve to be better;
Christ deserves you to be better.
And as is so often the case, you yourself have answered your own
question; you were just looking for a little confirmation from one of the
Christian brethren. And that is fine, we are supposed to fellowship and
help each other. Your answer, from your own lips is:
"The main reason I want to get out of stripping is because I love
God and I know that stripping is not what He wants me to be doing"
What more advice do you need? Can the guidance come from any higher?
Has not God touched your heart to make the change and to live a life
becoming of a Christian daughter of the Most High God?
Pray for God's help in making a way for you to get out of
stripping to pay your bills. Surely He is able. I believe that, and I know
that you do too.
God can change hearts, He can influence decisions regarding someone
hiring you. God owns everything and everyone and He can and does as He
wills. It is such a small thing to change the heart of a prospective
employer for He whom simply spoke the universe into existence.
Pray for some special help from Him on this matter, a matter which I can
tell is disturbing you more and more as time goes on. Pray in Jesus' name
and you will not be confounded.
I am saying a little prayer with you as I send this E-mail. (Time and
distance mean nothing to God, He created them Himself; so it is as if you
and I are standing together praying.)
God can help you with a good job right there where you are at. Cheer
up; for, as Jesus said when Paul was worried:
Acts 18:9-10
9 Then spake the Lord to Paul in the night by a
vision, Be not afraid, but speak, and hold not thy peace:
10 For I am with thee, and no man shall set on
thee to hurt thee: for I have much people in this city.
KJV
And God has "much people" in your city as
well, and one of them will hire you; I just know it. But you must get out
there and do some leg work, don't just sit around waiting for a
miracle. God isn't that fond of lazy people. But I know that you are not
one of those. So, go out and get that job which you seek,
believing God will help you; and you will do marvelously.
Listen, God and Jesus weren't "play-promising" when they made all those
promises in the Bible, trust Them and you will be rewarded with what you
seek. And yes, it is just that easy.
And know that God never puts a conscience about a sin, vice, addiction,
etc., into your heart, except that it is possible for you to
stop, and that there is time for you to stop. This goes for all
things.
Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
PS: Hopefully the book will be complete by year's end.
Which obviously means that I believe that we have time
before the Tribulation begins.
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About a month or so later the reader writes
back:
Subject: update, another question,
and a prayer request
Dear Mr. Nick Goggin, not long after you replied to my email i got a
call from [Xxxxx Xxxxxxx] company and got hired as a sheet metal
worker!! I've been staying in God's Word and have been reading the
studies on your site as well as Texe Marr's site, Al Neal is another
very God inspired resource. Every thing has been going very well
despite my boyfriend and I are barely hanging on (financially
speaking). But we have faith and things are getting better. A friend
of mine invited me to her church (Bible Baptist Church) I went
thinking I'd make some new friends (my dancer friends were nice
ladies but were into stuff I know I'm not supposed to be doing).
However when I talk about God's truths to these other Christian
people, especially when I bring up the subject on the Kenites, they
blow me off and tell me not to dwell on such subjects!! I was
furious!! Is it okay to not attend conventional "church"; and just
study independently through websites and with my friend [Xxxxxxx]?
All people do at conventional church is make me mad. I apologize if
I sound unchristian, but when there's important Bible truths out
there and all church members want to do is sit around an sing kum-bi-yah!!
I can't fellowship with people like that! Thank you for your time
and God bless! - [Xxxxxxx]
P.S. Can you please pray for me one more time? I
just had an interview with the Sheet Metal Union, I've been trying
to get in for some time. Can you please pray for me that I make it
in? Thank you!
Answer:
Hello again. Well, Amen! I
am so happy for you. Isn't our Lord good to His faithful!
Regarding the "modern day churches;"
there are still a few good ones around, but they are becoming harder and
harder to find. If you cannot find a good church that teaches God's
Word, not the traditions of men, then you'll just have to study on your own
like you said in your above. There is no "rule" saying that you
have to go to church, but we are instructed to fellowship with each
other. In the past this meant to go to church for that fellowship with
like minded Christians; however, as you (and countless other readers) have
discovered, the modern day churches are a far cry from what the Bible says
that they should be. And our modern day fellow Christians aren't
measuring up too well, either.
But I do not encourage people to leave the
churches, but rather to find small Bible study churches that actually
teach what God said to teach, not the junk they are peddling today. If
Christians all stopped going to church then there would be no more churches.
Wouldn't satan and his you-know-who minions just love that!
And as for your prayer request,
consider it done when I send this E-mail. But let me also say this:
God hears us each individually, and the prayer of one is just as loud in
God's ear as are the prayers of many. This is basically in the model
of the "lost sheep" parable, where Jesus said that He exercises Himself more
to find the one than He does for all the other ninety-nine put together.
Everything is fair and compassionate with God. So you never need
another to pray for you for God to hear you. I just wanted be clear on
that. But the Scriptures also tell us to pray for one another, so it
is a good thing for us to do. Say a prayer for me as well, if
you will.
Matthew 18:10-14
[Jesus speaking]
10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say
unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my
Father which is in heaven.
11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone
astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the
mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?
13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth
more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that
one of these little ones should perish. KJV
And may I close by saying that I am
real proud of you for making the right decision, even though it is hurting
you financially. Now that's really what I call "walking the walk,"
instead of just "talking the talk." We can all learn from this.
You heard God's call to your heart to make a change in your life, you
listened, you trusted Him to make a way for you and to kick the rocks out of
your path, you did as much as you could do on your own, you prayed, and you
kept your part of the promise. Very well done, good job!
God sees.
Prayers to God with you in your
petition, in Jesus Christ's precious and powerful name!
PS: I once dated an ex-stripper and she was just
the greatest Christian gal I ever met. Like you, God set it in her
heart to make a change, and boy did she ever. Unfortunately, we did
not make it as a couple, but I to this day consider her a sister in Christ
and wish her all the best in life. I just wanted to share that with
you because I don't want you to think that anyone here looks down on you for
things of the past, as I am quite sure many other Christians do. And
there is not a one of us Christians who has not done something in our life
that we didn't regret later, many of us will stumble again against the
flesh. But that's the beauty and power of Christianity—Jesus saves us
and He helps us to improve ourselves. Other "religions" may help you
to improve yourself, but none other than Christianity can save a soul from
eternal destruction.
John 14:6-7
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:
no
man cometh unto the Father,
but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from
henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
KJV
And don't overlook the fact that Jesus
was calling Himself God in the above Scripture as well. The Jews who
would eventually have Him murdered on the cross knew full well that Jesus
was claiming to be God. They even tried to kill Him for saying it in
the below Scripture.
John 10:30-33
[Jesus speaking]
30 I and my Father are one.
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my
Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but
for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself
God. KJV
Jesus Christ is God in the flesh.
Let me take this a step further, when God is on the Earth walking with His
children (in this realm or "dimension," if you will), He is Jesus Christ.
This is why the Holy Spirit through Scripture stated that Jesus
created the world (John 1:3), and in another place the Holy Spirit through
Scripture stated that God created everything (Gen 1:1).
Genesis 1:1
1 In the beginning God created the Heaven and the earth.
KJV
John 1:1-14
1 In the beginning was the Word [Jesus
Christ], and the Word was with God, and
the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him [the Word,
Jesus Christ]; and without him was
not any thing made that was made.
[...continued to...]
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us
[as Jesus Christ], (and we
beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full
of grace and truth. KJV
So, how could God create the world,
yet nothing was made that wasn't made by Jesus Christ? There is
absolutely no contradiction if one is in possession of the fact that Jesus
Christ, God, and the Holy Spirit are one (1st Jn 5:7).
1 John 5:1-15
5 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every
one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God,
and keep his commandments.
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his
commandments are not grievous.
4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the
victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus
is the Son of God?
6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by
water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth
witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the
Word [Jesus Christ],
and the Holy Ghost: and these
three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the
water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for
this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he
that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not
the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and
this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God
hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the
Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may
believe on the name of the Son of God.
14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any
thing according to his will, he heareth us:
15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we
have the petitions that we desired of him. KJV
We have a Bible study that may be of interest to the
Christian in apprehending the nature of God and the Holy Trinity (called
Godhead in the Bible):
The Holy Spirit & The
Holy Trinity.
Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
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Dispensationalism corrupted;
and, the "end"
A reader writes:
Hi Nick... I have a question for you. I've heard a lot about
Dispensationalism but these preachers that teach Dispensationalism never
seem to really explain it. My question for you is.... Does
Dispensationalism claim that God has two separate but parallel means of
working, one through the Christian Church, the other through the State
of Israel, the former being a parenthesis to the later. Does a
Dispensationalist keep the State of Israel and the Christian church
distinct? In-other-words do the the Dispensationalist believes that
throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes.....one
related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved
which is Judaism or Zionism; while the other is related to heaven with
heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity?
If so...doesn't Dispensationalism therefore refutes the supposition
inherent in covenant theology that God has one purpose for all people
and that in Jesus Christ the earthly is transformed into the heavenly?
And if this is true.....Are these people a arm of the Kenites using the
Hegelian Dialectic process to confuse Christians by creating divide and
conquer conflict? Also is this how Christian Zionism got it start?
(note: From what I can see, these Dispensationalist always believe in
some form of a rapture)
God Bless,........[xxxxxx]
p.s. If true....I would think that this is probably the most basic
theological test of whether or not a person whose is a dispensationalist
knows the truth, and it is undoubtedly the most practical and conclusive
in-that the one who understands how to distinguish the State of Israel
(Kenites) from the real House of Judah and the Christian Church
consistently will inevitably not hold to dispensational distinctions;
and one who doesn't will.
Answer:
Hi [Xxxxx]. The problem is that Dispensationalists don't agree among
themselves on an exact doctrine (much like the Rapturists with their two
stage-, pre-, mid-, post- Tribulation Rapture theories). So it is difficult
to give a definitive answer-all on what they believe.
Basically, they believe that God deals with man differently in
different times (hence the term, dispensations), and that God
will deal with non-believing "Jews" differently than with non-believing
Gentiles (by "non-believing" I naturally mean those not believing in Jesus
Christ). Many of these groups including Pastor John Hagee's
Evangelicals (and now the Catholic Church, the leader of 50% of the world's
Christians!) believe that "Jews" are covered under the Old Covenant (Old
Testament) and have no need for Jesus Christ to attain eternal life (the New
Covenant/New Testament). Of course, this is high blasphemy and the greatest
of sins; but the International Judaics have long ago infiltrated every major
Christian denomination—and have skewed the doctrine and scattered the
sheep—just as they did with the corruption of the religion of Israel from
Moses (with Babylonian Talmudic filth) prior to Christ's First
Advent. Christ came to put that rebellion and usurpation down, and He will
return when it needs to put down again.
That is why in the Tribulation chapters of the book of Revelation you do
not see a working successful Christian church. Only stragglers who remain
faithful to the Lord of lords and King of kings, Jesus Christ. These shall
be persecuted. But God will intervene, though many shall die gaining
greater rewards later. The book of Revelation paints a gloomy picture of
the endtime world, a world without the love of Christ and God, a word given
over to idolatry, ruled by satan/antichrist and his dead-soul minions; a
world where family members betray the faithful within their own family to
incarceration and even death; where men are murdered for not worshipping
the accursed thing; a world that both acknowledges that the Two Witnesses
(Rev 11) were from God, but then celebrates with gift-giving and cheer their
murder by antichrist/satan. What a ghastly word the International Judaics
are creating! Look around you, it is being reared-up as we
speak. And it shall succeed, for a time.
And it all culminates with Christ's triumphant return in Revelation
chapter nineteen where all that offends shall be purged with great and
terrible wrath. And the just, those stragglers among the masses, as well
as those taken by God "into the wilderness" for protection (Rev 12:6 & 14)
shall see that day, live through it, and transfer into their spiritual body
without hitting the ground (2nd Thess 4:17); they shall not taste of death.
Then all flesh shall pass from the Earth. Next is the thousand year
Millennium (Rev 20), then Judgment Day where every soul (save for those in
Rev 20:4-6), both good and evil, shall stand before the Great and only true
God and answer as to his/her life. Then all that are unworthy, determined
by God, are cast into the Lake of Fire. This is the end, the second death
(Rev 20:16). Then the New Heavens
and New Earth rising up out of the old and descending from On High
shall be eternal, God Himself walking and talking to and with His faithful
children (Rev 21-22), and they shall call Him Father—these are the sons of
God. This time has no end.
That is why we fight today. And it is why we are unmolested in our
work:
1 John 4:4
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them:
because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
KJV
Keep
up the Good Fight; and peace to you in Christ Jesus.
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And know this: that no true prophet can contradict God's written
Word.
A reader writes:
Subject: Fwd: Repentance and Remission of Sin part 2
Lancelot Knight
I am so tired of this smoke and mirrors garbage - any scriptures you can
think of to tell this person who sent me this? [the
reader supplies a written study by Lance Knight] It is all spiritual to
them. After all, say they, we do not have to obey the law. We should not
study, etc, nor listen to prophets. We must get our knowledge from
spiritual thingies. I am about at the point to say "have at it". But, a
part of me knows that I maybe can yank them from the fire. After all,
they are not seeing smoke everyday...yet.
Answer:
Hello.
So, Lance Knight is up and running again, huh? Lance needs prayers, not
followers; Lance Knight is possessed by evil spirits. He needs prayers for
deliverance. And his followers are also likewise afflicted.
I have
written about Lance's new "movement," or whatever he calls it,
elsewhere on our Website. You can find the articles by using our website search
engine on the home page. Here are a few:
I
didn't read that whole article of Lance's which you sent to me, but what I did
read screamed of delusion—he
really thinks that he is God's big somebody, or something like that.
But
one thing that immediately caught my eye was where he excerpted an E-mail he had
received from a follower. In that E-mail the person mentioned that all of a
sudden he/she could not read the Bible any more. This is a classic sign
of demonic possession. Below is an excerpt from that E-mail which Lance had
posted in the article which you have forwarded to me. And below this I will
supply a parallel testimony, that we have on our Website, of a former possessed
person who was possessed by the demonic spirits in the Charismatic movement (and
they are legion). You may notice the similarity, even though the two
movements (Lance's and the Charismatic’s) hold to different doctrines. And
also, a good sign that one is following a false doctrine is in the fact that
they cannot explain it or get people to see it as they do. But good
doctrine—doctrine
contained in and confirmed by the Bible—is
clear and easy to explain to a fellow believer. Observe from Lance's article
(the bracketed [ ] text is mine):
". . . . I was ready when "church " was over I
threw away all my [Bible study]
tapes and booklets (I had tons of them)
and even stopped reading the
Bible because I felt my mind was full of the wrong
teachings and I needed to dump it all. I've
wondered why things have been so quiet over 2 years though,
maybe I needed that because
I have thrown away everything I thought I knew about
'religion'
[Christianity] reading some other authors interpretation of a
more spiritual understanding but that didn't fill the void either.
I could never put
into words or explain to anyone what I believed now..."
Compare the above to the below testimony from an ex-possessed
Charismatic Christian:
". . . . In July 1995, after re-committing my life
to the Lord, I experienced God's Miraculous Healing Power twice within a
single week. In the first instance, God totally delivered me from a
sexually immoral lifestyle and six days later He supernaturally healed
me from smoking. As you could well imagine, these experiences had a
dramatic influence on my life. Within a period of six days, God turned
my whole life upside down.
I had heard that God touched the lives of people in
similar ways in ____ Christian Church. But, I must admit at the time I
wasn't really convinced that these ‘‘manifestations’’ were from God. I just
couldn't believe that God would heal people in such strange ways. Then, to
my utter amazement, I experienced not one, but two supernatural healings in
the privacy of my home. I must admit, I began to think that which was being
experienced in the _____ Christian Church must be from God.
I began attending the Church's services on a
regular basis, but to my dismay, I didn't experience the ‘‘anointing’’ of
the Holy Spirit. Furthermore, I became extremely agitated when these
‘‘manifestations of the spirit’’ were displayed during the services.
Needless to say, I became somewhat concerned. When I spoke to my fellow
members about this problem, I was told that is was an attack from the devil
to prevent me from experiencing the presence of the Lord and that I should
seriously pray about the situation.
Thus began a period of serious spiritual warfare
against this attack from Satan, but alas, still no manifestations. I could
not understand it. Why was God withholding His Spirit from me? What was I
doing wrong? I prayed and prayed to God to Fill me with His Spirit - but in
vain. I continually pressed in, but nothing happened. At one
stage I actually began to doubt my salvation due to the fact
that I wasn't experiencing any manifestations.
I became so totally obsessed with the
manifestations that I found myself concentrating solely on trying to induce
a manifestation whenever I prayed or worshipped. It was only then that I
finally managed to successfully induce a manifestation. To my utter disgust,
this so-called ‘‘anointing’’ was a far cry from the wonderful life-changing
experience which I had previously experienced when God had delivered me from
an immoral lifestyle and smoking.
I
noticed that for some strange reason praying and reading my Bible suddenly
became virtually impossible. Furthermore, I became
aware of the fact that I often felt tempted to fall back into sin in the
areas where God had delivered me. I asked myself, "why is this happening?" I
was confused. Then I blamed Satan for the fact that
I was unable to effectively pray and
read the Bible. As for falling back into past sins,
I promptly found Scriptures with which to justify why God was
supposedly allowing these things to happen, but in fact I used these merely
to lull my own conscience.
[This is exactly what Lance is doing with his followers]
In the eyes of my Charismatic friend, I had made
it! God was actively working in my life. I most definitely couldn't allow
anyone to know that which I had experienced as the "manifest presence of the
Lord" wasn't everything it was made out to be. I couldn't risk being heard
speaking out against the Holy Spirit - after all according to Matthew 12:32
and Mark 3:29, 30 - this is an unforgivable sin. I certainly wasn't prepared
to be guilty of that. And so, the masquerade began. I pretended to enjoy
these experiences when in actual fact, every single time I allowed myself to
experience the ‘‘anointing’’, something deep inside my inner being
would be pleading with me to put an end to the charade.
I was bewildered by this predicament that I found
myself in:. .Was I the only person who felt this way?. . Were there others
who had the same problems? . . or. . Was Satan yet again attempting to stop
me from receiving God's blessing? Yes, that had to be it. Satan had to be
responsible for these doubts, as well as for the discomfort I was
experiencing. Of course, the only way I knew how to counter Satan's attacks
was to engage in Spiritual Warfare.
Once again I launched not a serious battle against
Satan. I earnestly prayed to God to: Remove anything and everything in my
life that wasn't from Him, as far away from me, as the North is from the
South and the East is from the West. If it wasn't from Him, I didn't want to
have anything to do with it. I thought He would take away the doubts and the
discomfort.
Instead, when I prayed to God in this way, the most
horrific thing happened. God took this
strange ‘‘spirit’’
away from me. Yet, amazingly for the first time in many
months, I was able to read my Bible without having to force myself to
concentrate on what I was reading. Suddenly God's Word once
again became a reality to me, as it had done when I gave my life to the
Lord; I could once again actually understand what I was reading. What's
more, I noticed that my prayer life dramatically improved and that the
temptations which hounded me before had disappeared...."
That "strange spirit" in the above final paragraph is an evil
spirit. God cleansed the above person because they prayed for a
deliverance, and they believed and trusted God and Jesus. This is what all
of Lance Knight's fellow demoniacs need to do; but will they? Or will they
continue to be seduced with praises and promises that have a "deeper"
understanding of the "secret doctrines?" God knows.
All you can do for these people is to pray for them. Pray that God
delivers them from their strong delusion; because they really think that
they are "onto something," that they have found "the secret doctrine," that
they have been given to understand things that "average" Christians cannot
grasp because the "average" Christian is not as "deep" and "gifted" as
they are. The poor deluded souls; all that they have really found is a
new hell. And it will drink them up if they remain there. Lance's
conscience is seared, he has gone over to the other side; and he is dragging
many down with him, unfortunately. Once saved, always saved? Don't be so
sure; for, how do you know that they were ever really saved in the first
place? It gives me no pleasure to write these things of them; but it is
necessary, so as to perhaps warn-off a fledgling Christian from being sucked
down into that abyss with them.
You asked for a Scriptural
response for them. Here it is, but will they accept it—that it applies
to them; or, will they think that it pertains to all other Christians
other than their small cult? We shall see; will they not say that
it is just that I do not understand? God knows. But I do
understand, I understand perfectly what is going on here.
2 Timothy 4:1-5
1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who
shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word [as contained in God's Bible,
not in Lance's extrabiblical "revelations"];
be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all
longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;
but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having
itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be
turned unto fables.
5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an
evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry. KJV
And know this: that no true prophet can contradict God's
written Word.
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Are Christians to support the State of Israel?
A reader writes:
Nick,
I read a little on your web
site and noticed what seemed to be a negative bent on Israel.
The explanation dealt with a group within a group of Jews, if I
understand it correctly.
Just my thoughts on this, of
course Israel does not follow Christ, but I would think that we
would still support them – believers would support and protect
them. God chose Israel, first, not because they were “good,”
but to reveal Himself to Jew and Gentile through them. He still
has His plans for them. They are still chosen in that He
protects them, even though they do not deserve it, and He will
draw end time events together with them a[t] the center – still
promising miracles in bringing them to the Lord.
One could make the analogy
that Israel, as a nation, is similar to us, individually, in
that we do not deserve God’s love because of the wrong we do,
yet He pursues us to save us. Still He protects us, chastens
us, et. al.
Blaming Israel for the Muslims
being against us, well, yes, in a way. But, knowing you know
Muslims beliefs, they are against Christ and God, anyway.
With, or without, Israel Islam hates the infidel. Which we
are to them.
I appreciate your reading this
and would like to hear from you on the matter.
Kindest regards,
In His Service,
[Xxxx Xxxxx]
Answer:
Hello, thank you for presenting your objection in such a
responsible manner. And in answering you we may answer all of
misguided Christianity who feel the same way that you do, should they feel
the same way that you do.
The problem that is hindering you is that
you do not know that those who say they are "Jews" over there in
Israel (and abroad) are not, and they do lie about their identity. In
other words they are impostors. Most of them do not even know that
their history and heritage has been forged and lied about. The Bible
warned of this phenomenon:
Rev 3:9
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are
Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship
before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. KJV
These same impostors, which most of
today's deluded Christianity esteems as "God's chosen people," are spoken of
by Christ as being persecutors of the Christian church in the endtimes.
They are associated with the imprisoning of Christians, persecutions,
tribulations, and even the death of Christians:
Rev 2:8-11
8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write;
These things
saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive
[i.e., Jesus Christ; Jesus is saying this];
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich)
and I [Jesus Christ]
know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but
are the synagogue of Satan.
10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer
[of this Synagogue of satan staffed by the false "Jews"]:
behold, the devil [as their leader/god]
shall cast some of you
[Christians] into prison, that ye may
be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful
unto death,
and I will give thee a crown of life.
11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the
churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second
death [i.e., the eternal death
of the soul; however, no protection from the first death (the
death of the flesh) is here promised].
KJV
That today's so-called "Jews" are not the
Israel peoples of the Bible has been documented so thoroughly that we need
not spend a lot of time rehashing it. Should you not be informed of this
fact, I present a few sources, all Jewish, to introduce you to the topic.
On our Website you will many more documentary articles, quotes, etc.
The Jewish Almanac (page 3):
"Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to
call an ancient Israelite a "Jew" or to call a contemporary Jew an
"Israelite" or a "Hebrew". The first Hebrews may not have been Jews at
all...Let the definer beware: original meanings of these loaded words
are no guide to subsequent meanings. How people misconstrue a word is as
much a part of its meaning as the "correct" meaning, and the history of
these... terms has included a number of creative - and sometimes tragic -
misconstruals."
The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1925 edition, Vol. 5, Page 41:
"Edom is in modern Jewry."
From the manifesto of the "World Jewish Federation," January 1, 1935,
through its spokesperson, Gerald Soman:
"No one can deny that the Jews are a
most unique and unusual people. That uniqueness exists because of their
Edomite heritage. You cannot be English Jews. We are a race, and only as
a race can we perpetuate. OUR {Jewish} MENTALITY IS OF EDOMITISH
CHARACTER, AND DIFFERS FROM THAT OF AN ENGLISHMAN. Enough subterfuges!
Let us assert openly that we are International Jews."
The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler
[Free E-book] This book traces the history of the ancient Khazar Empire,
a major but almost forgotten power in Eastern Europe, which in the Dark
Ages became converted to Judaism. Khazaria was finally wiped out by the
forces of Genghis Khan, but evidence indicates that the Khazars
themselves migrated to Poland and formed the cradle of Western Jewry…
The Khazars’ sway extended from the Black Sea to the Caspian,
from the Caucasus to the Volga, and they were instrumental in stopping
the Muslim onslaught against Byzantium, the eastern jaw of the gigantic
pincer movement that in the West swept across northern Africa and into
Spain.
"...but that does not alter the fact
that the large majority of surviving Jews in the world is of Eastern
European — and thus perhaps mainly of Khazar — origin. If so, this would
mean that their ancestors came not from the Jordan but from the Volga,
not from Canaan but from the Caucasus, once believed to be the cradle of
the Aryan race; and that genetically they are more closely related to
the Hun, Uigur and Magyar tribes than to the seed of Abraham, Isaac and
Jacob.
Should this turn out to be the case, then the term
“anti-Semitism” would become void of meaning, based on a misapprehension
shared by both the killers and their victims. The story of the Khazar
Empire, as it slowly emerges from the past, begins to look like the most
cruel hoax which history has ever perpetrated." ―
Arthur Koestler (a Judaic Author, later "suicided" along with his wife),
in The Thirteenth Tribe;
pg.17.
In his, A Jewish Defector Warns America, Judaic author Benjamin H.
Freedman enlightens us as to the true history and genealogy of his fellow
"Jews":
"What are the facts about the Jews? (I call them Jews
to you, because they are known as Jews. I don't call them Jews myself. I
refer to them as so-called Jews, because I know what they are.) The
eastern European Jews, who form 92 per cent of the world's population of
those people who call themselves Jews, were originally Khazars. They
were a warlike tribe who lived deep in the heart of Asia. And they were so
warlike that even the Asiatics drove them out of Asia into eastern Europe.
They set up a large Khazar kingdom of 800,000 square miles. At the time,
Russia did not exist, nor did many other European countries. The Khazar
kingdom was the biggest country in all Europe -- so big and so powerful that
when the other monarchs wanted to go to war, the Khazars would lend them
40,000 soldiers. That's how big and powerful they were.
They were phallic worshippers, which is filthy and I do not
want to go into the details of that now.
But that was their religion, as it was also the religion of
many other pagans and barbarians elsewhere in the world. The Khazar king
became so disgusted with the degeneracy of his kingdom that he decided to
adopt a so-called monotheistic faith -- either Christianity, Islam, or what
is known today as Judaism, which is really Talmudism. By spinning a top, and
calling out “eeny, meeny, miney, moe,” he picked out so-called Judaism. And
that became the state religion. He sent down to the Talmudic schools of
Pumbedita and Sura and brought up thousands of rabbis, and opened up
synagogues and schools, and his people became what we call Jews. There
wasn't one of them who had an ancestor who ever put a toe in the Holy Land."
—
I could go on considerably longer with quotes
from more Judaic sources and also from non-Jewish sources, but you get the
point. What is in the modern day nation state of Israel today—the
overwhelming majority of the "Jewish" people, that is—are not God's true
Israelite peoples, but rather they are impostors. Therefore, the modern
day state of Israel is not any planting of God and is no fulfillment of
prophecy. Thus, you become compounded in error
when you seek to attribute Biblical blessings to an antichrist, impostor
people in a land stolen by murder, rape, and violence, of which, no doubt, you
have not heard anything.
And Christian preachers need to stop
"sleeping with the enemy," and start learning, and then teaching, who the true
enemies of the Christian and the Christian Church are, before it is too late.
These people have a plan for this world, and there isn't a Christian Church in
it, nor are there any Christians in it. You can figure out how they plan
to remove them.
So, that's my, as you say, "negative bent on
Israel," and the reason how I came to that position.
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A reader writes:
Hello Nick hope all is well
I just read your take on the millennium and how Ezekiel is not referring
to it, my question is this, what is the purpose of the millennium, why not
go straight to the white throne judgment after Christ returns and not
1000 years later?
Answer:
Hello. All that we know of the Millennium (the 1000
years) is in
Revelation chapter 20, and in a few places where "the day of the Lord"
is mentioned, which is the Millennium), going beyond that would be speculation.
(I am in serious disagreement with pastor Murray regarding his teaching that
Ezekiel 44 ff speaks of the Millennium. For more on our position on
that matter see our:
As to
your question of why not go strait to Judgment day and eliminate the
Millennium? Because it is God's will that there be a Millennium. We
know this because He spoke of it in the book of Revelation. It will
happen, regardless of whether we understand it now or not.
Perhaps—and this is only
speculation on my part, but it fits—it is a Sabbath, the seventh day of rest,
from Adam's day. Adam was formed in 4004 B.C., which is six-thousand
years ago. And according to Peter (2 Pet 3:8) every 1000 years with
man is a single day with God.
2 Peter 3:5-8
5 For this they willingly
are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old,
and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that
then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the
earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved
unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be
not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as
a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. KJV
So we are in our six-thousandth year from Adam
which is day six with God. The Millennium would be the seventh thousand
years, or the seventh day for God. The seventh day is the day of rest
from Gen 2:4.
Gen 2:4
4 These are the generations
of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day
that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, KJV
Incidentally, the above Scripture marks the first
Sabbath from the re-establishment of this world. And it is also the day
before Adam is formed, Adam's day being day one for God of the second
week (for God). So there is a flow in this timeline.
And there was not much more
information given us regarding the Millennium than there was during the
first day of rest for God in Genesis chapter two. Maybe it isn't
for us to know very much about these two "days" because they are God's
days.
Of course all of the above is simply speculation
on my part, albeit informed speculation. We will know your answers when
we get there.
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A reader writes:
...I know you study from the King James,
however I study from the Tyndale what do you know about the
Tyndale? From what i read and heard from the history channel
he was the first to interpret the word in English
translation because he was tired of the religious leaders
giving a false interpretation and he was burned alive for it
because they thought he was a witch. Afterwards King James
translated in English and that is the study bible.
I referenced King James alot when I first
got the Bible and it however did not differ from the King
James Version and may i add does not have the word Easter
in it used, in reference to what the King James scripture
references Easter but rather it uses the scripture in the
context it is to be understood.
Answer:
Hello. I haven't said anything about the Tyndale Bible
because I don't own one. But from what I understand it is in the style of
the King James manuscripts.
I just now downloaded a free copy off the Internet,
and I see that indeed it has the Textus Receptus type manuscripts
(of the King James Bible version), as it has 1st John 5:7:
The
Tyndale version:
1 John 5:7
7 (For there are thre which beare recorde in heuen the father the
worde and the wholly goost. And these thre are one).
— Tyndale version
King James Version:
1 John 5:7
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word,
and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. KJV
Does this match your hard copy of the
Tyndale, including the Old English spellings?
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The reader replies:
Hello hope you are swell today!! We are.
Actually it reads
[1st John 5:7-8 in his version of the
Tyndale Bible]
7) So we have these three witnesses*-
8) the Spirit, the water, and the blood and all three agree.
Under it; it has some late manuscripts add in
heaven-the Father, the Word, and the HolySpirit, and these three are
one. And we have three witnesses on earth.
Thank You for your response on this. I don't
understand why the King James was adopted as the study bible and not
the Tyndale, when he first interpreted it then King James did. Maybe
because he was a King huh. If he wasn't they probaly would have
killed him also. Just my thought. When I first started to study I
did I must admit go back and read from the King James just to make
sure it lined up. Didn't differ much then i lost my King James.
Im looking to invest in a Strong's and Companion Bible for study. It
seemed hard to understand i saw a copy of the Companion on the
website. O well i won't hold you any longr thank you again for every
thing that you do. We need more like you!
Stay Blessed in Fathers Will.
Answer:
Hi. You have a tampered-with copy of the Tyndale's.
You said yours read:
"Actually it reads
7) So we have these three witnesses*-
8) the Spirit, the water, and the blood and all three agree.
Under it; it has some late manuscripts add in
heaven-the Father, the Word, and the HolySpirit, and these three are
one. And we have three witnesses on earth".
Were you mention the note under the verse: this is
called a Critical Apparatus, and it was not in the original. As
the so-called "earlier manuscripts" to which the note claims to be
following in verse 7 over the Textus Receptus (the KJV manuscripts
the commentator refers to as "late manuscripts") were not extant in
Tyndale's day. Tyndale could not have written verse 7 above as you have it
in your version.
I speak of the Codex Vaticanus (stored in
the Vatican library since 1475, but not seen by scholars until
1909-1915), and the Codex Sinaiticus (only discovered
in 1844). And since Tyndale lived from to 1494 to 1536, he could not have
written that note on your page of the Bible that claims to be of Tyndale's
hand.
And this whole "older manuscripts/newer manuscripts"
thing only became an issue when the enemies of God started infiltrating
corrupt manuscripts and corrupt newer Bible editions into Christian's
hands. So, somebody has corrupted his work, and who knows what else they
went in and changed? If it were me, and wanted a Tyndale Bible, I would use
the one that has his original spelling.
But the one that I have from on-line appears to be in
its raw shape, and it has the verse 7 as below, just like the KJV.
1st John 5:5-9
5 Who is it that overcommeth the worlde: but he which beleveth that
Iesus is ye sonne of god?
6 This Iesus Christ is he that ca by water and bloud not by water only:
but by water and bloud. And it is the sprete that beareth witnes because
the sprete ys trueth.
7 (For there are thre which beare
recorde in heuen the father the worde and the wholly goost. And these
thre are one)
8 For there are thre which beare recorde (in erth:) the sprete and water
and bloud: and these thre are one.
9 Yf we receave the witnes of men the witnes of god is greater. For this
is the witnes of god which he testifyed of his sonne.
The above is from a PDF file that lists at the
heading:
New Testament, 1526.
William Tyndale, The newe
Testament as it was written
and caused to be written by
them which herde yt. To
whom also oure saveour
Christ Jesus commaunded
that they shulde preache it
unto al creatures. 1526
It appears to be from the below version:
Amazon.com sells a copy of the Tyndale Bible with his
original spelling, but I have not checked the variant readings. See Amazon
here:
The book that turned England upside down,
September 21, 2001
|
By |
Rick
Wirkkala
(Red Wing, MN USA) - See all my reviews |
This is the British Library edition of the William
Tyndale New Testament of 1526, original spelling Worms edition, in small
but easy to read modern type. This older freer form of spelling takes a
little to get used to but is worth it. The English is clear, often
clearer than the authorized version, although similar since the AV is
essentially a revision of Tyndale. The volume is small and easy to carry
around, much as was the intent of the volume of nearly 500 years ago. It
contains no notes or cross references, it has chapter headings. There is
no verse numbering, since these did not appear in English for the first
time until the 1558 Geneva New Testament. It has a brief preface by
Tyndale's biographer David Daniell, and a helpful historical
introduction by the editor W. R. Cooper.
These men have done a great service to the modern
English reader in increasing the accessibility of William Tyndale's
works.
Not only is this an important book to own for
historical reasons, it also is useful for the message it contains: the
life changing Gospel of Jesus Christ.
"For yf when we were enemys, we were reconciled to
God by the deeth of hys sonne: moche more, seynge we are reconciled, we
shalbe preservyd by his life. Not only so, but we also ioye in God by
the meanes off oure lorde Jesus Christ, by whom we have receavyd this
attonment," Romayns v. [end of review]
The King James Bible version is God's Word in the
English language, all other's are suspect where they disagree with the KJV.
God preserved His Word, He said that He would, and the KJV Bible for 400
years was the definitive Word of God globally. But Tyndale's is an obscure
work. Most conversions in the last half of a millennium where under the
King James Version.
Also note: the KJV was not originally called the King
James Bible, but simply The Holy Bible, which name graced its
cover. It began to be referred to and named the King James Bible after
the aforementioned forgeries began coming into existence. This was also an
act of evil. King James had nothing to do with the King James Bible, he was
just the king at the time and was paid reverence by the translators for
allowing them to do the work. Many lies have been fabricated against the
King James Bible version. That is because it is the true Word of God, and
the enemies of God, Christ, church, and Christians in general, hate that
fact.
One more thing, if you will. Where the newer
versions (and your "updated" version of the Tyndale) Bible's have chopped
verse 7 off is unnatural. Observe:
7) So we have these three
witnesses*-
8) the Spirit, the water, and the blood and all three agree.
Why would the Holy Spirit limit verse 7 to an
incomplete statement, only completed with verse 8? It would have been more
consistent with the rest of the Bible if it read as one verse, as thus:
7) So we have these three
witnesses*- the Spirit, the water, and the blood and all three
agree.
I will tell you the reason why that sentence is
spread across two verses: because they would have ended up with a blank
verse, as thus:
7) So we have these three
witnesses*- the Spirit, the water, and the blood and all three
agree.
8) [blank]
That is why they corrupted these verses. And why?
Because this is one of the best documentations in the Bible that Jesus
Christ was God in the flesh. Also, what they cut out, Jesus had stated
elsewhere:
John 10:30
30 I and my Father
are one.
KJV
1 John 5:5-9
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus
is the Son of God?
6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by
water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth
witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father,
the Word, and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the
spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is
greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his
Son. KJV
Thus, the King James Bible and Tydale's original work both agree with
Jesus' statement in John 10:30, and are written in a style and form
consistent with the rest of the Bible.
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The reader replies:
Hi.
I feel like crying because this is a Tyndale New Living
Translation they did state at the beginning that they broke
Tyndales work down to read more clearer.
i have been studying out of this Bible for years
every since I started to study and have even gave two of
them out. I call it my LD Bible as I stated before I am
still learning how to read. ( Meaning paying attention,
understanding, and making sure I know my subject).
King James Version is just so hard for me to read and keep
up with WELL i actually haven't tried since I have my LD
Bible (Tyndale) maybe I have graduated. Is there a certain
King James I should get?
I thank you for your help, it's truly my privilege. I was
actually getting upset with you ( I apologize) when you was
telling me this, but then at the very end I was relieved
with "XXXX you want the true word of God that's what you
asked for almost 10 years ago."
Is there a certain King James I should get I think its 1655
edition is that correct? Why would the King James Bible be
universal when wasn't the Romans enemies?
I know you are a busy person, so if you ever have time to
answer me whenever it could be weeks or months or years from
now I will wait I will go on now and read the link from your
site.
Well I Thank You for all your hard work, Until we speak
again Fathers will
3 John 1:2
Beloved, I wish above all things that
thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy
soul prospereth.
xxxxx
Answer:
Hi, just get a Bible that calls
itself the King James Version (NOT the "New King
James Version, which is also corrupted!). You know that you
have an authentic one if there is the complete verse of 1st John
5:7, as I supplied above in an earlier exchange in this Q & A;
and it has italics in it (which the Translators used to honestly
admit where they had to add words for translation
difficulties). This was the first and one of the few
Bibles that do this.
Also, the thees
and ye's have a purpose. Only in the King James
Bible do you have this accurately. Words starting with "t"
are singular, such as thee and thou; and words
starting with "y" are plural, you, ye. This
is most helpful, as it lets you know if a specific person is
being spoken to or a group.
You don't have to find
editions from 1655, the King James is a settled text. The
only changes were in spelling, punctuation, and certain
gender errors (his/hers). The changes are actually helpful,
and only reflect printer's error. So, the modern KJV (King
James Version) is actually more perfect than the 1611
printing. There is no mystery here in finding a good KJV
Bible. The text has been settled for over 300 years. And
there no omissions/additions of actual verses, etc.,
in today's KJV over the 1611, just the aforementioned
printer error corrections, typeset, spellings, etc.
In fact, the King James version Bible printed today is also
called the Authorized Version, or the 1611 King
James version Bible. That is how minor the changes
were—they did not constitute a revision or "second
edition." (See the ISBN page from Bullinger's Companion
Bible below.) And know that Bible enemies will try to
state all kinds of lies about the King James Version Bible,
because it is the true written Word of God in English. But
they will never attack a newer corrupt version like the New
International Version. That is something to think about.
And a word on the "King
James Only" debate. You will hear uniformed Christians make
arguments calling those like myself a squabbler or
trouble-maker for saying that the King James Bible is the
only authentic and accurate Bible in the English language
(hence, "King James Only"). They will argue that all Bibles
are equally accurate and equally inspired of God. Below is
my answer to all of them, and let it silence them all once
for all time:
They know that the King
James Bible shows 1st John 5:7 as below:
1 John 5:6-8
6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus
Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And
it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the
Spirit is truth.
7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the
Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three
are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the
spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three
agree in one. KJV
And they know that the
newer corrupt versions like the NIV below show the same
verse as:
1 John 5:6-9
6 This is the one who came by water and blood — Jesus
Christ. He did not come by water only, but by water and
blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the
Spirit is the truth.
7
For there are three that testify:
8 the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three
are in agreement. NIV
My question to them,
which is really a statement, and not a question, is: how on
God's good Earth can you call these two different
Bible versions both
accurate? Certainly you are not blind to the differences
(and there are many more than this)? And how can you call
them both inspired of God?!?
What the
NIV and other corrupt newer Bible versions have done is to
cut-out as with a penknife one of the greatest Scriptures
documenting that Jesus Christ was both Lord and God, as
doubting Thomas declared: " And
Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God"
(John 20:28), and which Jesus Himself declared: "I
and my Father are one"
(John 10:30 ). Look below at how the hell-bound
Translators of the supposedly "easier to read" version
called, The Message, corrupted this last verse,
trying to attack the Divinity of Jesus Christ:
John 10:30
30 I and the Father are one heart and mind."
(from THE MESSAGE: The Bible in
Contemporary Language © 2002 by Eugene H. Peterson. All
rights reserved.)
Being of "one heart and mind with God" is quite different
than the correct, "being one with God." In other
words, Jesus was God (in the flesh):
John 10:30
30 I and my Father are one. KJV
Even the most corrupt New International Version
got this verse correct, as did every other version that
I checked (over 10).
John 10:30
30 I and the Father are one." NIV
I would like to add that
the translators of the Message could not get the words
"heart" and "mind" from the manuscripts, they made them up.
Below is the Interlinear Bible (manuscripts) for the verse:
See our:
Adulterations in the Newer Bible Versions (NIV, NASB...);
Proof that the King James Bible (KJV) is the True Word of
God.
You get
the point. Moving on...
The two Bibles that I
have recommended are correct. But it's not like you are
going to find a corrupt KJV Bible. The only difference is
that with my electronic version (from BibleSoft) they
removed the italics, which is why you don't see it when I
post Scripture. This was unfortunate.
The Companion Bible
is even more helpful, as Bullinger capitalized personal
pronouns of Divine Persons, i.e., where the word
"He" is being used of God or Jesus, Bullinger capitalizes
it. Also, Bullinger placed in bold type all quotes from the
Old Testament that appear in the New Testament, and in the
footnotes tells you exactly what Scripture was being
quoted—very helpful. He reverses the process in the Old
Testament footnotes. One really doesn't realize how often
there are direct quotations from the Old Testament in the
New!
The Companion Bible
below is twice as much as the other one below, but it is
well worth it. It's worth it just for the 198 appendices
Bullinger included at the back of the Companion Bible.
My recommendation is the
Companion Bible. You cannot go wrong with that
true text of the KJV. Below is from the ISBN page from the
Companion Bible listing the text type:
One more thing about Bullinger, and here a word of caution. He
compares the text of the KJV to the newer corrupt manuscripts, and seems
to give deference to the new. In other words, he will say in a
footnote: "this word is not in the manuscripts." But what he means is
that it is not in the corrupt new version manuscripts which he
used for comparison. But the words are in fact in the KJV manuscripts
(the Textus Receptus). Not knowing this could cause
confusion. For an explanation of the corruptions of these newer
Bible versions and manuscripts, see our:
Adulterations in the
Newer Bible Versions (NIV, NASB...); Proof that the King James Bible
(KJV) is the True Word of God. Anyway, this
represents the single worse blot upon Bullinger's otherwise most
excellent work. But in his day these corrupt new manuscripts were just
being examined and he went with the flow. (Just like your "updated"
Tyndale Bible version did with the footnote that you shared with me
[re-supplied below]) But Bullinger does this all in the margin and
leaves the KJV text intact, whereas the "updated' (corrupted) newer
version of the Tyndale bible corrupted and altered the actual text.
Observe from Tyndale, where you said yours read:
"Actually it reads
7) So we have these three witnesses*-
8) the Spirit, the water, and the blood and all three agree.
Under it; it has some late manuscripts add in
heaven-the Father, the Word, and the HolySpirit, and these three are
one. And we have three witnesses on earth".
The below two Bibles will meet your requirements. And if I could
only get one Bible it would be the Companion Bible, but if I
could afford both a study Bible and an everyday reading Bible, I would
get both. The Companion Bible below is large, almost 12 inches
tall, but they also have the same Bible, printed with the exact same
printing plates (just at a different enlargement) in the normal size
version, but the text is uncomfortably small, even for those with good
eyes. You will find a link there to get the smaller original size.
-
King James Compact Giant Print Bible
 This
particular Bible has pictures, maps, and Christ's spoken words in
red type. It has read-along references in the margin which list
parallel scriptures. It has a small concordance, and best of all, it
has large print with plenty of room in the margins to make your own
study notes. The King James Version of the Holy Bible is the only
recommended Bible version to study from. Nelson Bibles; $19.79
Read-Along References®
Words of Jesus in
red
Self-Pronouncing text
Concordance
8-page Full-color Family Record Section
8-page Full-color Bible Map Section
Type Size: 11.2 pt.
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Another Catholic defends the Catholic's
spiritually unhealthy (and UNbiblical)
"over-adoration" (worship in everything but name) of Mother Mary
A reader writes:
Hi,
How are you? I would like to talk to you about your article
[A
Catholic on Mother Mary] that was written on how Catholics
worship Mary. I, unlike you will not be radical in this message. First
of all, I would just like to ask why you felt you needed to write this?
Why did you feel the need to personally insult 70% of the Christian
population? What value did you get from this? Did you feel God told you
to insult and attack 70% of his people? Not only did your article
include false statements but it included things in it that did not prove
your point at all. First of all, I do not apologize for praising the
EVER virgin Mary. She gave birth to our Lord and savior. Also, she was
crowned Queen of Heaven and Earth. You added several verses where Mary
was giving praise to God in an attempt to prove us wrong. Does it? No.
We know that Mary had a great deal of respect, love, and fear for the
Lord. We know she worshiped and praised Him. Otherwise, God would not
have chosen her to be the Holy Mother of Jesus. Also, when you say that
Mary was not an ever virgin you are not only insulting the Catholic
Church, but also the Orthodox Church and even some Protestants. If you
did more studying you would realize that back in Biblical Times people
called many people that are related to them brothers and sisters. ...
You put pictures of The Holy Father praising Mary. So
what? I am proud to say that Mary is my Holy Mother. You said at the
beginning of the article that you wish not to offend Mary. Let me tell
you something. Every time anyone, ESPECIALLY a Christian says that Mary
was not an ever virgin you are spitting on Mary's face. And every time
anyone, ESPECIALLY a Christian attacks another Christian Church not only
are they spitting on Mary's face but they are also spitting on God's
face. And every time anyone, ESPECIALLY a Christian is insulting someone
for praising Mary you are spitting on her face. I realize that you might
have not been the one who wrote this article. This is NOT intended for
you. But PLEASE forward this to the writer. It is VERY important they
see this.
Thank You,
[Xxxx X.]
Answer:
Hello. Your heart is in the right place but you are
simply swept away with the traditions of man that make void the Word of God.
This is eternal problem of the Catholic Church, as it was with the Pharisees
before and is with Talmudic Judaism today—they changed many core points and
doctrines in the Bible to suit their own needs. I will take your
objections line-by-line and supply you with Biblical documentation. If,
however, like the average Catholic, you take the word of popes and Catechisms
over the written Word of God as delivered by His apostles and prophets, then I
can be of no assistance to you—you will have already been overtaken and
overthrown.
You said:
"I would like to talk to you about your article
[A
Catholic on Mother Mary] that was written on how Catholics
worship Mary. I, unlike you will not be radical in this message. First
of all, I would just like to ask why you felt you needed to write this?
Why did you feel the need to personally insult 70% of the Christian
population? What value did you get from this? Did you feel God told you
to insult and attack 70% of his people?"
Well, first of all, Catholics are
approximately 50% of all Christians, not 70%. But anyway, you asked why I
felt the need to expose their false
unBbiblical
doctrine? The answer is a simple one—because it is dangerous false
doctrine that impresses upon men's souls. And if you seek to know by
what authority I do this, that can be found in your Bible:
2 Timothy 4:1-4
4 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall
judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke,
exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after
their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned
unto fables. KJV
Titus 1:13-16
13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be
sound in the faith;
14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from
the truth.
15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and
unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being
abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. KJV
And if I, being a Christian,
possess knowledge that my fellow Christians (but of the Catholic denomination)
were stumbling due to the false teachings of their elders, it would be for me a
sin to remain silent simply so as to not "offend" you and your fellow-deceived
Catholics:
James 4:13
17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is
sin. KJV
You said:
"Not only did your article include false statements but
it included things in it that did not prove your point at all. First of
all, I do not apologize for praising the EVER virgin Mary. She gave
birth to our Lord and savior."
I do not make false statements, though I am capable of
error. However, in the case of Mother Mary I do not err. And yes,
she was one of the best women of all time. No argument there. I will
get the the "EVER (as in forever) virgin" part later.
You said:
"Also, she was crowned Queen of Heaven and Earth."
This is a most dangerous error on your
part, but I know that you do it ignorantly, not knowing what you are saying.
Mary is never called the queen of anything in the Bible, never. The
use of the term "Queen of Heaven" for Mary is strictly a Catholic invention, and
adopted by some other sects. It is in the Catholic Catechism, not in the
Holy Bible. It is not from God's lips, but from the corrupt papacy's pens.
There is however a queen of heaven in the Bible, it is a false goddess,
and we were warned NOT to worship this phantom (for every false god is nothing,
they do not exist). Below you will observe that certain of the early
apostate Judahites (men of Judah) also worshipped the pagan "queen of heaven."
The Catholic Church just gave her a make-over and changed her name to Mary:
Jeremiah 7:14-20
14 Therefore will I do unto this house, which is called by my name, wherein
ye trust, and unto the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I
have done to Shiloh.
15 And I will cast you out of my sight, as I have cast out all your
brethren, even the whole seed of Ephraim.
16 Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer
for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee.
17 Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of
Jerusalem?
18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women
knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out
drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the Lord: do they not provoke
themselves to the confusion of their own faces?
20 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, mine anger and my fury shall
be poured out upon this place, upon man, and upon beast, and upon the trees
of the field, and upon the fruit of the ground; and it shall burn, and shall
not be quenched. KJV
Below we find the same obstinacy and disobedience in the
mouth of those apostates of Judah that you find in the Vatican and even from
your own letter here. Observe what God does to them:
Jeremiah 44:15-28
15 Then all the men which knew that their wives had burned incense
unto other gods, and all the women that stood by, a great multitude,
even all the people that dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered
Jeremiah, saying,
16 As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we
will not hearken unto thee.
17 But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our
own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour
out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our
kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of
Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no
evil.
18 But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour
out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been
consumed by the sword and by the famine.
19 And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink
offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink
offerings unto her, without our men?
20 Then Jeremiah said unto all the people, to the men, and to the women, and
to all the people which had given him that answer, saying,
21 The incense that ye burned in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of
Jerusalem, ye, and your fathers, your kings, and your princes, and the
people of the land, did not the Lord remember them, and came it not into his
mind?
22 So that the Lord could no longer bear, because of the evil of your
doings, and because of the abominations which ye have committed; therefore
is your land a desolation, and an astonishment, and a curse, without an
inhabitant, as at this day.
23 Because ye have burned incense, and because ye have sinned against the
Lord, and have not obeyed the voice of the Lord, nor walked in his law, nor
in his statutes, nor in his testimonies; therefore this evil is happened
unto you, as at this day.
24 Moreover Jeremiah said unto all the people, and to all the women, Hear
the word of the Lord, all Judah that are in the land of Egypt:
25 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, saying; Ye and your
wives have both spoken with your mouths, and fulfilled with your hand,
saying, We will surely perform our vows that we have vowed, to burn incense
to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her: ye will
surely accomplish your vows, and surely perform your vows.
26 Therefore hear ye the word of the Lord, all Judah that dwell in the land
of Egypt; Behold, I have sworn by my great name, saith the Lord, that my
name shall no more be named in the mouth of any man of Judah in all the land
of Egypt, saying, The Lord God liveth.
27 Behold, I will watch over them for evil, and not for good: and all the
men of Judah that are in the land of Egypt shall be consumed by the sword
and by the famine, until there be an end of them.
28 Yet a small number that escape the sword shall return out of the land of
Egypt into the land of Judah, and all the remnant of Judah, that are gone
into the land of Egypt to sojourn there, shall know whose words shall stand,
mine, or theirs. KJV
So whose words shall stand, the Catholic
Catechism or God's Bible? The apostates of Judah said:
"But
we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own
mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour
out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our
kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of
Jerusalem"
and you said in your above letter:
"First
of all, I do not apologize for praising the EVER virgin Mary. She
gave birth to our Lord and savior. Also, she was crowned Queen of
Heaven and Earth."
You said:
"Also, when you say that Mary was not an ever virgin
you are not only insulting the Catholic Church, but also the
Orthodox Church and even some Protestants. If you did more studying
you would realize that back in Biblical Times people called many
people that are related to them brothers and sisters. ..."
You refer to the weak argument of the
Catholic Church against the below Scripture. Bible Christians point to the
below verse to prove that Mother Mary was only a virgin until after she had
Jesus Christ, then she was a normal married woman who had other children the
normal way. These children were Jesus' step brothers and step sisters.
The last line of your above apologia was intended to blunt the evidence in the
below Scripture:
Matthew 13:53-57
53 And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these parables, he
departed thence.
54 And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their
synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this
man this wisdom, and these mighty works?
55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and
his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man
all these things?
57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not
without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house. KJV
To say that the above verses 55-56 pertains to
all men and all women as being Jesus' brethren and sisters here is
absurd in light of the fact that His four stepbrothers were individually named.
A simple read of the above Scripture will reveal by context that these four men
were Jesus's (step)brothers and that the (at least three) sisters where His
stepsisters. Note also that in addition to Jesus' siblings, they also
mention His (step)father and His mother. This is a specific family, not
all of humanity. But we have an even better witness that Mary was only a
virgin until after she bore the Christ Child. We will supply that as a
response to your next statement:
You said:
"You put pictures of The Holy Father praising Mary. So
what? I am proud to say that Mary is my Holy Mother. You said at the
beginning of the article that you wish not to offend Mary. Let me tell
you something. Every time anyone, ESPECIALLY a Christian says that Mary
was not an ever virgin you are spitting on Mary's face."
You have no mother in Heaven, you only
have a Father in Heaven, and that is God Himself. look at the end of the
Bible, in Revelation chapters 21 and 22, you only have the father and the lamb
in Heaven. The lamb being symbolic of Jesus Christ. You only have us
and good in Heaven, as Jesus was God in the flesh. Observe in the below
Heaven age Scripture, search in vain for your Heavenly Mother figure:
Revelation 21:1-7
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the
first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of
heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle
of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his
people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no
more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more
pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And
he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and
the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water
of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God,
and he shall be my son. KJV
All pagan and paganized religions utilize
female goddess figures. But there are no female genders in Heaven.
Woman was made for this world to reproduce the sons of God (angels—us, our souls
in human flesh. And I think that your "spit it the face" comment is a bit
of hyperbole. Okay, below is another Scripture which clearly shows that
Mother Mary was only to be a virgin until she had the Messiah Jesus Christ:
Matthew 1:19-25
19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a
publick example, was minded to put her away privily.
20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord
appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to
take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the
Holy Ghost.
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for
he shall save his people from their sins.
22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the
Lord by the prophet, saying,
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and
they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had
bidden him, and took unto him his wife [married her]:
25 And knew her not [sexual intercourse]
till she had brought
forth her firstborn son: and he called his
name JESUS. KJV
till: Greek
word #2193 heos (heh'-oce); of uncertain affinity; a
conjunction, preposition and adverb of continuance, until
(of time and place): KJV - even (until, unto), (as) far (as), how long,
(un-) til (-l), (hither-, un-, up) to, while (-s).
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with
Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 Biblesoft,
Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)
You closed with:
"And every time anyone, ESPECIALLY a Christian attacks
another Christian Church not only are they spitting on Mary's face but
they are also spitting on God's face. And every time anyone, ESPECIALLY
a Christian is insulting someone for praising Mary you are spitting on
her face. I realize that you might have not been the one who wrote this
article. This is NOT intended for you. But PLEASE forward this to the
writer. It is VERY important they see this."
Oh, it was I that wrote the article.
And I have seen your comments. And the above is the means by which the
Catholic Church keeps you in bondage. By forbidding Christians to question
false and corrupted doctrine, the Catholic Church fathers were able to get away
with all sorts of excesses, not the least spiritual and doctrinal.
Be a free thinker, and above all, trust
the Bible as the final authority under Heaven for all doctrine and religious
instruction.
Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
[Related article, see our:
A Catholic on Mother
Mary]
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The reader replies:
Hello again, thank you for responding to my e-mail. I
clearly see that you did not watch the videos that I intended you to
watch. I had this long planned out e-mail with a response to every thing
you just said. But I am not in the mood to argue. All I will say is that
I want you to watch those videos I sent you and to listen to the part
where they talk all about the word "till" used in the bible. You will
see that there is a different meaning to it than you think. I am happy
that you are a Christian. I believe that you are either going to heaven
or purgatory.(Purgatory is something I DO get out of the bible that I
know that you do not believe in because someone decided to take out a
few books of the bible that were originally in there. If you read the
second book of Macabbes you will see it.) I would argue with you all day
on this subject but I don't feel like attacking a fellow Christian. If
you are truly a Christian then you believe that because I have accepted
Jesus Christ into my heart then I am saved from the fires of hell. I
believe that about you. However, I do believe that you are terribly
misguided and uninformed. I, unlike you believe in not only the holy
bible but also holy texts and sacred tradition. I have tried to guide
you to the right path and that is all that I can do. I am sorry you have
failed to listen to the truth. At least I know you shall not perish in
hell since I am sure, based on your e-mails that you are indeed a
Christian. I will pray to God for you. I shall ask the angels and saints
of heaven to intervene in your life and show you the true path. And I
shall ask the holy ever virgin Mary to shed her holy grace upon your
heart.
Answer:
Hi again. That is fine; we can agree to disagree, agreeably. May I close
with two brief points that you brought up?
You said:
"All I will say is that I want you to watch those
videos I sent you and to listen to the part where they talk all
about the word "till" used in the bible. You will see that there is
a different meaning to it than you think."
Don't you believe it! And it is not just the use of the word "till," it
is also the use of the entire clause "till she had
brought forth her firstborn son". It would not be necessary had Mary
been a perpetual virgin. And I sent you the Greek definition of the
word for "till" in my prior reply, surely you read it. Here it is again:
Matthew 1:19-25
19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make
her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily.
20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord
appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear
not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her
is of the Holy Ghost.
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS:
for he shall save his people from their sins.
22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of
the Lord by the prophet, saying,
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son,
and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God
with us.
24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had
bidden him, and took unto him his wife [married
her]:
25 And knew her not [sexual intercourse]
till she had
brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS. KJV
till:
Greek word #2193 heos (heh'-oce); of uncertain affinity; a
conjunction, preposition and adverb of continuance, until
(of time and place): KJV - even (until, unto), (as) far (as), how
long, (un-) til (-l), (hither-, un-, up) to, while (-s).
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and
Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994,
2003, 2006 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators,
Inc.)
I don't suppose that I can impress you with the fact that you only call
a son a firstborn son if there was later another son in the
family. An only son (as you claim Jesus was) is never a "firstborn son."
By the way, look what your Catholic Church did (in Their American
Standard Bible [ASV or sometimes ASB]) to the above last verse, they took
out "firstborn" and inserted simply "a son." Why? Because their
virgin goddess was not have any other children, of course. And this
Scripture in the Bible destroyed their construct.
Matthew 1:25
25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her
firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
KJV
Matthew 1:25
25 and knew her not till she had brought forth
a son: and he called his name JESUS. ASV
And the same in the corrupt New International Version Bible (NIV) based
upon derivatives of the corrupt Catholic manuscripts, the
Codex Vaticanus and the Codex Sinaiticus:
Matthew 1:25
25 But he had no union with her until she gave birth to a son.
And he gave him the name Jesus. NIV
But, amusingly, they forgot to corrupt another verse which calls Jesus
the firstborn son, to match their alteration of the above verse:
Luke 2:5-7
5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being
great with child.
6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the
days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
7 And she brought forth her firstborn
son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in
a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn. KJV
Luke 2:7
7 And she brought forth her firstborn
son; and she wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him
in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. ASV
Sloppy forgery! Though the NIV, which came out later (circa 1973; the
American Standard version came out, I believe, in 1901; and the King James
version came out in 1611) tried to corrupt the meaning the best that they
could with the words they had available:
Luke 2:7
7 and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son.
She wrapped him in cloths and placed him in a manger, because there was
no room for them in the inn. NIV
Nevertheless, from the accepted Bible in the Catholic Church (the ASV)
we have Jesus being referred to as Mary's firstborn;
imply, logically, that there were more that followed. In comparison: you
never call your marriage a "first marriage" unless there was one or more
that followed. Point made? And why the big lie,
anyway? There was no need for it, certainly not for Mary's humility's
sake. For, there was nothing wrong with Mary having other children the
normal way; after all, she was a respectful married woman, and subject to
the below directive of God, just as we all are:
Genesis 1:28
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and
multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have
dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and
over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. KJV
Repeated to Noah's family after the Great Deluge, of
whom, Mary was a direct descendant:
Genesis 9:1
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be
fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. KJV
You said:
"However, I do believe that you are terribly
misguided and uninformed. I, unlike you believe in not only the holy
bible but also holy texts and sacred tradition."
That, of course, is the crux of your problem. But will you see it?
The Catholic Church—like the Pharisees before them who added Talmud-type
teaching to the Scriptures—have added a whole plethora of man-made
extrabiblical doctrine and tradition which is not contained anywhere in
God's written Word. They just made it up. And when you say in your above
that you believe in "sacred tradition," you of course mean "sacred
tradition" of men that make void the Word of God:
Mark 7:6-13
6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias
prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me
with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me,
teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God,
ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups:
and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye
reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy
mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or
mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou
mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his
father or his mother;
13 Making the word of God of none effect
through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like
things do ye. KJV
Colossians 2:8
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy
and vain deceit, after the tradition of men,
after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. KJV
Below is the natural result when a people, nation, church, or
denomination turn away for God's ways and turn unto the traditions of men:
2 Timothy 4:1-4
4 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who
shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove,
rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound
doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves
teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall
be turned unto fables. KJV
Pray on it.
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