Hi.  Thank you for the technical info.  It seems that there are many different kinds of twins, and that it is all very complicated.  But the main point is not lost in the use of the layman term "fraternal twins."  Thank you for the follow-up and clarification information. 

    A quick Google search on the medical term that you supplied (Heteropaternal Superfecundation), which I had heard of before but can never remember the long name, revealed something very interesting.  Specifically, look at the last section of the below excerpt titled “Use in Mythology”.

    Now, if one understands that all mythology is a perversion of the ancient truths, (just as the Babylonian Creation Account, which has swayed the faith in the Bible of many "Christians" because it was written before the Bible was begun in circa 1490 b.c., is a perversion of what really happened as outlined in the Bible book of Genesis, carried East by a dejected Cain and corrupted in spite against God)  then the mention of a human woman fathering twins, one of the twins sired by a human father and the other twin's father being a “god,” then you have the Garden of Eden event between the serpent (satan), Eve, and Adam, preserved in mythology, albeit in a corrupted form.  Understanding that since satan (the serpent) was a supernatural being, he would have been by the ancients thought of as a god; Eve and Adam of course considered humans.  Very interesting collateral documentation for the two-seedline teaching!

    Also of note is that Cain, after being rejected of God and cast out, went on to found the religion that the Babylonians would come to follow, making gods of Adam, Eve, and the serpent (satan) in the personages of Anu, Ea, and Bel. — Chapter XVI "The Babylonian Priests", Sargon the Magnificent. Mrs. Sydney Bristowe. pg. 57.  We offer a free on-line version (E-book) at SARGON THE MAGNIFICENT.

    Equally of note is that the religion of Babylon is the basis for modern-day Judaism, as contained in their Babylonian Talmud, and not the Old Testament of the Holy Bible as commonly mistaken.  The Old Testament religion of Israel/Judah being corrupted during the captivity in Babylon, and then again later after the "Jews" returned to Babylon setting up Talmudic academies after the sacking of Jerusalem and the razing of the Temple of God in a.d. 69-70 by the Roman General Titus.  A little known (suppressed) fact is that the world center for Jewry between the years a.d. 70 and circa a.d. 740 was Babylon.  From there till the eleventh century a.d. the "Jews" were located in Khazaria, adding exponentially to their numbers by the assimilation of the Turko-Mongoloid Khazars who converted from Phallic Worship to Talmudic Judaism.  From there they migrated into Eastern Europe on to Europe generally, usurping the title of the Biblical peoples and calling themselves the "Jews," "God's chosen race."  Never has there been a greater lie than that the "Jews" of today are the Israel people of the Bible.  Not having any family relation to the Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob of the Bible, but rather being the blood descendants of Turko-Mongoloid Khazars who migrated into what is today South-Western Russia from the East (that Jesus warned the Apostles not to go to), who worshipped the erect male member as a god, as the giver of life (they were a Phallic Worship cult, which explains the sexual degeneracy and pedophilia of the Jewish Talmud).  Homosexual Pedophilia (male-on-male adult-on-child sex) is common (though hidden) in all false and corrupted religions; mainly, Judaism, Islam, and Catholicism.  Yes, I can document that.     

    Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
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Hi, thank you for the kind word, and I hope that you doing well.  The problem is that man has assigned alternate meanings to many of the words and concepts in the Bible—then, based upon "our" modern day understanding of a thing (or word)—we read that (errant) definition into the Holy writ.  Let's just focus on our word (and term) "hell."

    In the Bible, "Hell" is metaphoric for the eternal assignment of the damned.  And "hell" literally is the grave, the last repository of man's flesh upon this earth.

    Remember that it was said of Jesus in prophecy that God would not leave his soul in hell?  Well, this wasn't speaking of Jesus being in "hell," as we reckon hell to be today; but rather that He was in the tomb.  And that His body was not left there—He ascended into Heaven.

    Literally, hell is the grave, it is the state of being dead.  When we die, we go into the grave.  The Bible expresses that as going "into hell."  However, that is literally; but the Bible also uses for illustration that hell is were the wicked are.  Because the wicked do not get to rise into eternal life.  Therefore, they ever remain in hell, which is to stay that they never leave the grave, per se.  In other words, it is God's way of saying that if you don't "make it," if you don't overcome, then you shall never taste of eternal life because you are to be the eternal dead—metaphorically you do not leave the place of the dead, for, you are the dead.

    That is why when the Bible illustrates this sad consequence of the unsaved, it always employs the term "eternal torments," "eternal...".  That is taken by man's frail logic as meaning something along the lines of "eternal torture chamber," but that is not at all the case.  Nor does the Bible imply "eternal flesh pain and torture" when it uses the term "hell."  That is just how we can understand the severity of it, and that is why God used the term so, because our minds cannot now grasp the spiritual realm, wherein the overcomers shall bask in eternal presence of the Lord God, and the unsaved and damned shall ever be dead, eternally dead.

    The misapplication of the term (and concept) of "hell" has caused much confusion regarding endtime things and the millennium and the eternal Kingdom of Revelation chapter 21ff.  We commonly say to children: "If you are bad then you are going to go to hell."  But this is not accurate, for we all go into "hell" (we all die and are buried) if you take the term "hell" literally.  To be accurate, what we should say is:  "If you do not overcome at Judgment Day, if you are not saved, then you will go into the Lake of Fire at the end, and perish forever."

    Feel free to follow up if I have not been clear.  It is difficult to explain this.  If I were to "put it in a nutshell" I would say that "hell" is the representation of death, and eternal "hell" is the representation of one who shall never live again anymore—and that fate is eternal because it never can be overturned.  Hence, the Scriptures use the term "for ever and ever", etc. to focus upon the finality of it.

    Now, the Lake of Fire in the Bible is what we today think that "hell" is.  So, for every time that you think of the concept of "going to hell," just in your mind replace the word "hell" with Lake of Fire, and you will be right on track.

    That hell is not the final stop for the damned is easily documented from Scripture; for, in the below Scripture we see that even hell is cast into this Lake of Fire in the end.  So therefore, necessarily, "hell" cannot be the final fate of the evil and the damned because from hell they go into another place, they go into the Lake of Fire and are no more, ever again.  They are eternally dead.

    Below are the last five verses before the Bible moves into the eternity (which we commonly, and also somewhat confusingly, refer to as "going to Heaven").  After the below final verses of Revelation chapter twenty, Revelation chapter twenty-one shows us the world to come, the eternity, the glory of eternal life—us with God forever.  Observe that "hell" itself is done away with and yields itself obediently to the great and terrible Lake of Fire—the final destruction of all that offends God:

    Judgment Day:

    The next verse in the Bible begins the eternity, or as we today commonly refer to it, "Going to Heaven":

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Are you a Jew or a Christian?  Or worse, a so-called Judeo-Christian, which is just a nicer term that what the Bible calls them—apostates? 

    You referenced an article (Where Did Cain Find His Wife? by Bruce Malone) which states that Cain married his sister and not a woman of the land of Nod.  The author basis his "proof" of "Biblical perspective" on Jewish fables and their "traditions" which make void the Word of God.  Quote from your attached article:

God's Word warns:

    If you are a Christian then get on the ball, please!  If you are a Jew (or the new non-Jewish "Jew," the so-called Judeo-Christian) then please just go away—we don't want any of your antichrist tripe here.  You will answer to God for your part in bringing to pass the great endtime apostasy—away from God and towards antichrist—written of in 2nd Thessalonians:

    From your onslaught of E-mails you also seem like a Kenneth Ham disciple.  (See our: "Creation Science" and Ken Ham's AiG Ministry (Answers in Genesis).)  He doesn't know diddly-squat about the Bible.  He is an agent for the you-know-who's.  He gains followers by piously saying that he "believes the Bible from the very first verse," then he goes on to change what it says and to corrupt it, and buy$ (with your money) for-hire so-called scientists to write articles favorable to Ham's teachings—thereby making all of his followers Biblically stupid and easy for the pickings.  I am very familiar with AnswersInGenesis' website work, and it is setting up the Bible to fall; for, Ken Ham twists what the Bible says into something that shall easily be shown to be error—then you "Answers In Genesis" people will lose all faith in the Bible, and the Bible's enemies will prevail.  Take away the trust in the Bible and the people shall easily fall away to whatever the conspirators replace it with.  That is the plan.  And you are nurse-maiding it along, wittingly or otherwise. 

   And yes, yes, yes; I know that you mean well—a whole lot of you are going to have "meant well" when you realize that you helped to rear-up antichrist.  What shall be your fate then?  I prefer to let God do the judging on that one; for, He alone knows every little secret recess in your heart; nevertheless, it is quite clear that you shall be discomforted at that time (to put it mildly):

    Indeed, "who shall be able to stand?"

    At the Second Advent of Messiah, shall He find true Christian faith on this Earth in any others other than His faithful (and persecuted) remnant?  Well, Jesus didn't answer His own above question so I am sure not going to hazard an answer.  How are you lining up, friend? 

    Peace in Christ Jesus. 

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No, stay away from BAD churches, they all aren't bad.  I see that you are being driven away from the faith, and I know by who. 

    I am sorry that you are a new Christian in these end days, because I know what you are up against. 

    There is a controversy, a controversy for the souls of this world. 

    I know that you don't know me, and that if I say that you can trust what I teach that I would only be saying the same thing that even the false teachers say.  So I won't say that.  I will point you in the right direction and leave you with a prayer: 

Read the Bible, trust the Bible, pray to God to show you that which He desires you to know.  Only follow a teacher's teaching as long it aligns with the Bible's teaching.  Ask God to protect you from the lies of the false teachers.  Ask Him to help you in this weak time of yours.  And seal the prayer in Jesus Christ's precious and powerful name.  I pray that prayer along with you—in Jesus Christ's name.

    It's hard for new Christians today, I know.  I know that the enemies of God and man have bought-off most mainstream "Christian" teachers and preachers.  And it is only by the grace of God that any of us remain on that narrow path of true Biblical Christianity.

It is YOU who are breaking the Scriptures to fit your three Earth ages theory.

Answer:

Hello, unfortunately I do not have the time to debate back and forth with you.  I have Bible studies on all of these topics where I lay out my case Biblically.  I will here now just correct one of your legion of errors. 

    You said: "It is YOU who are breaking the Scriptures to fit your three Earth ages theory" 

    My "three Earth ages theory"?  What do you call this below?

    That isn't My "three Earth ages theory"; it is God's, in His Bible. 

    Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
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I forgive you for calling me that because I know that you don't know what you are saying.  See our:

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Don't worry, I have good spiritual discernment, I wouldn't call something that is of the Holy Spirit to be of Beelzebub.  When I see someone speaking in tongues I can see (feel) the evil spirits leaching out of them.  Look at this video, can't you sense the evil spirits in these children?:  Jesus Camp: Kids Worshipping to a George Bush Picture  I honestly didn't think that evil spirits could infect children so very young—until that is, I saw this video and felt their presence.  Learn something new every day, I suppose.  And I think that the negative side of the spiritual realm is going to intensify as we move forward into the Tribulation.

We can simply agree to disagree on this matter and still be Christian fellows. 

    And I wouldn't need a threat of non-forgiveness to keep me from lying about spiritual things.  I wouldn't lie about them even if I thought that I could "get away with it."  I don't lie about this stuff. 

    And I know that you feel a spiritual presence when you speak in tongues, but that doesn't mean that it is a good spirit.  Have you not read the warning below?  God wouldn't have included it in a Christian Bible if He didn't think that the evil spirits would be very tricky and deceptive:

    Perhaps you would listen better if a former tongues-talker stated that he felt evil spirits present when he practiced it.  I offer the below: 

    Below is an excerpt from our study: The Holy Spirit & The Holy Trinity with the testimonies of Christians that have "been there, seen this, done that."
 

The chance result of a skewed understanding of the Holy Spirit
The Danger Of Unhealthy 'spiritual' Visits by masquerading evil spirits
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        We mentioned earlier in this study that we would supply some personal testimonies of Christians who were exposed to lying spirits and demonic influences and left that church, and/or where once beguiled themselves by these evil spirits masquerading as the Holy Spirit, who 'came out' of these unhealthy 'phenomenon' that are racing through many Christian denominations like a wild-fire devouring anything holy and true in it's path, taking the Christian and spiritually beguiling him into some New Age psuedo-Christian religion.  

        Such has become of the phrase "Born Again Christian."  When most people hear the term "Born Again Christian," they think of those who participate in the bizarre spiritual manifestations we pointed out earlier, they see them on T.V. begging for money and forehead slapping people who fall backwards wailing and sobbing into strategically placed 'catchers' hands.  They seen Benny Hinn throwing the supposed Holy Spirit around like a laser beam, sometimes laughingly throwing the supposed Holy Spirit at them again knocking the person down a second time (as though once would not have been enough for the true Holy Spirit!) while they try to get up from the first anointing from the Abyss that Benny Hinn is delivering.  What a mockery to claim that this is of the Holy Spirit of God.  Does anyone really think that God would allow the Holy Spirit to be so irreverently handled!  The Holy Spirit of God is not something to defame; remember Simon (the Sorcerer) who was in grave danger for trying to 'buy' the Holy Spirit (Acts 8:18-24).  Shame on any Christian who has been a part of that, especially the Christians that finance this ungodly facade through their tithes and offerings.  "For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds." (II Jn 1:11).   

    Thus the word "Born Again" has been corrupted by satan and his evil spirits who have infiltrated the Baptist/Pentecostal/Charismatic/Word-Faith (Rapturists all) denominations just as deeply as they have infiltrated and corrupted the Roman Catholic Church.  For a study on the Rapture lie, see: The Rapture Theory; What Does God's Word Say About It?  

     Below is a Testimonial from a new reader of our Website.  After talking to her via e-mails, I asked her if she would mind sharing her Testimonial on the Website, as it might help others who may have gotten caught-up in the same trap the she, by the grace of God escaped from.  Below is her testimony, unedited, unaltered, EXCEPT for the underlining and emboldening of selected segments of text to draw the attention of the reader, and segmenting the e-mail into easier to read smaller paragraphs (a huge paragraph is hard to keep your place in).  Other than that the e-mail is exactly as I received it:

 

The Word of Faith Movement
 

Subj: Re: Thank-you Date: 7/19/2003 9:07:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: ----------- [As is our policy, name withheld by WBSG] To: WatchmenBS@aol.com Dear Mr. Goggin I would be more than happy to share my testimony as requested. I will add that I have decided not to give the name of the church in which I was involved. I feel pretty much as [A fine Christian Pastor from Ark. - name withheld by WBSG] does about not using specific names or organizations etc. However, it was part of the word of faith movement. Many of the ministers who visited our congregation were names you might have heard. When I first started attending this church I was hungry for the Word of God. I felt an intense desire to serve Him and be around others who felt the same. However, I was not grounded in Gods Word at all. I was at the time like other Christians, and had pretty much accepted teachings from others all of my life. Yes, I read the Bible, but in the concept of organized Bible studies. As you probably know, many of the Bible studies out there in Christiandom today may focus on only one verse, or skip around all over the Bible, not really reading the entire scripture surrounding a particular verse, therefore, things are taken totally out of context. I was even less than an infant in Christ. I was probably still in utero if you can imagine. However I still had a genuine love and hunger.  I was attracted to this church because I thought I was seeing love for God and each others amongst the members. I also saw many different study groups, etc. and was excited to learn more. And in fact, God did allow me to grow closer and learn much while I was there. However, it did cause a few heads to roll. I would ask questions and challenge people as to where one concept or another that they were presenting was actually located in Gods word. Many times they were ill informed, and could not even find it there. Another words, the teachers and ministers were not even grounded in the Word. Their focus was more on the pentecoastal experience if you will. I guess my first feelings that things were not right occurred when I realized this. Even the pastor, it was obvious spent little time in Gods word other than preparing his weekly sermon, usually focused on one particular scripture. There was no actual deep verse by verse teaching, no one was really familiar with Gods word, or even where what they "believed" actually came from. They seemed to be more into that "ooey-gooey" feeling. Almost acting hypnotized. Our pastor was not a strong leader, and many people tried to "lead" resulting in chaos. There were many outside evangelists, etc. brought in and the pastor would turn the pulpit over to them quite frequently. This is when the evil happenings became obvious.  First there was "the spirit of laughter". Some one in the congregation would start laughing without control, red faced, falling down on the ground, rolling, then another would do the same, eventually hundreds of people (I am not exagerating) would be rolling about in the sanctuary. I admit I laughed (in my seat) once myself. However, to me it was like the whole scene was hilarious. I am sure you have been in a situation when someone laughed, and it just seemed as though the laughter was catching. This was like that. I was embarrassed at the same time to see this happening to people I cared about.  Here is an example of the animal sounds I talked about. The pastor was in front of a quiet congregation when suddenly a woman began howling like a dog. She started alternating between this howling and then started making hissing sounds like a cat, first jumping around the front of the sanctuary, then up and running around. The pastor told the congregation that she was releasing a demon spirit that had inhabited her since someone had treated her like a dog in the past.  Another instance. Do you remember the movie titled The Karate Kid? Do you remember the posture the karate kid made when he was going to fight? Raising his arms up like a bird. This was a common occurance in this church towards the end of my time there. There were people who would take this posture and make blowing noises. There were also some women who would do something that looked like an epileptic seizure, falling under the pews, having to be pulled out by ushers and and taken to another room. These are only a few examples. The money raising (tithes and offerings) got out of control. The congregation of this church was primarily made up of people who were not (how can I say) very wealthy at all. There was a constant request for money for a new building. Sometimes even construction equipment would appear, and people would rush in and give lots of money, but ground was never even broken. Still nothing had been done, even when I left. Many weeks pastor would have everyone throw their purses and wallets on the altar for prayers. Then after services everyone would go and retrieve their wallets. Many weeks pastor would put buckets on the altar telling everyone that there was a special offering, have the congregation march up to the altar and put money in the buckets. Those who did not go up front and put money in were obvious to everyone. The pastor would even jokingly say,"I hope someone wins the lottery this week and pays their tiths". All of these things were not happening when I first became a member, but started happening gradually. I was a part of the praise and worship team. Usually the church had attendance of about 1000 on a Sunday morning. I was one of five who led the praise and worship services. When the guest evangelists came I was also in the same position. There was one well known husband and wife "healing ministry" that would visit once a month for "healing services" I remember one man from the congregation who was brought to the front and told that his back problems were because he had one leg shorter than the other and that God was going to heal his short leg. He was told to hold his legs straight out while sitting in a chair. A lot of loud yelling, commanding God to heal him, pushing on his forehead, etc happened, and then the evangelist started yelling look, look, his leg is growing longer now!! I was standing above the man looking directly down on his leg. It was not growing. There was absolutely no change. However, everyone was rejoicing, claiming a healing. Over a period of time, I felt more and more condemnation in my heart, I felt God telling me things were not right. One Sunday morning, some events very similar to the above were happening, I was singing in front of the congregation. An overwhelming sadness came over me. The condemnation grew very very strong. It was like God was letting me know that if I continued to sing on the praise and worship team, I was part of what was happening there. I was part of a web of deceit. It did not matter what my personal intentions were, He was showing me the problems and I needed to not be a part of it. I wasn't really thinking about what I was doing, but I dropped the mic beside me and quit singing. The pastor and some men ran up on the platform, laying hands on my forehead. Someone asked me to please continue (into my ear) as the service was being videotaped for television. I just could not. I stood there for probably only a minute or so (but it seemed much longer) and walked off the platform, and out the door, stopping only to get my purse. I am not certain, but I do not think that part of the service was put on television. I later in the week went to see the pastor, told him why I was leaving, and that was that. Since that time, I have been sort of having my own "wilderness experience" of sorts. I have had a difficult time finding anything "right" with any congregation I have visited. Therefore, pretty much on my own. God has been good. The teaching has been wonderful. He has guided me, and put me where I am today. I still have a long way to go. It seems as though Gods Word is never ending. No matter how much I study and pray, I just keep on being shown more that I need to study and learn. However, my sights are set on Him, firmly ahead, not behind. Waiting for those God may place in my path, perhaps others caught up in the same thing. I hope this letter is not too long, feel free to glean from it what you feel you can use. [WBSG NOTE: We used it all, thank-you for sharing!  Our prayer is that this Testimonial ends up on the computer screen of someone who is new in one of these beguiled churches, and through your story, themselves search deeper into what is going on around them.  May God keep you and Jesus bless you!] In His Service ------------ [As is our policy, name withheld by WBSG]

 

      Below is a letter from a woman, whom we will leave unnamed, regarding her experience with the demonic Talking in Tongues, Slain in the Spirit, and Toronto Blessing experiences.  (We at WBSG feel that there is no need to embarrass anyone by posting their names.  Benny Hinn, in the above, and other public Ministers are a different case, for they deceive many and needs be exposed.  But the people below are lay Christians, individuals who should not be publicly shamed for sharing their witness).  (emphasis is added (bold italics) to highlight certain statements they made in the below):
 

"I have been to some really good churches where everyone was very friendly and nice but I ended up leaving these churches because these people were falling down, making animal noises, and in my opinion they were acting almost as if they were under a spell of some sort. I have never felt particularly comfortable with the practice. One day some of the ladies invited me to fellowship at one of their houses and I was a fairly new christian at the time and not well grounded in the word.  After dinner, these same woman invited me to pray with them and they all started to pray in tongues which was alright but then they started to make animal noises and fall all over the place.  I was immediatly feeling a sense that something was very wrong. Later, at the table, we were all talking and one woman said that when they were doing all this, she got a feeling that she should stop doing it.  Guess what, she blamed it on the devil but I really felt deep down inside that it was the Holy Spirit convicting here for doing the practice. One night in a separate incident, One of the pastors at this same church laid hands on me and prayed over me with the elder.  All of a sudden the Pastor pushed me down and as I laid on the floor, I looked up at him, and while he was praying in tongues, he looked at me with the glassiest and craziest look I have ever seen before.  It sent a cold chill up my back and I knew something was definently wrong. Many times at church, this same pastor would stare at me with the same hypnotic glance to the point that I had to turn my head.  He acted very strange and very odd when I would see him in the basement of the church.  He was nice and everything but there was definently something very eerie about his presence. When I quit that church to go to another, I was told that I was being led by Satan to go to another church and that their church was the only one where I lived that was teaching the truth. I was also told that if I left that church, I would fall into apostacy so I never went back again."

        Below is a woman’s testimony how satan’s evil spirits made her uncomfortable around the Holy Spirit of God.  She gives us an excellent inside look into the so-called "Toronto Blessing" manifestation:
 

Deceived by Toronto Spirits by _____ A gripping testimony from somebody who knows!! This letter appeared in "Discernment", the newsletter of Jewel Van Der Merwe, and was recently posted to her website. It graphically portrays the dangers of toying with the deceiving spirits of the "toronto-blessing", now also being passed on under other names, and in use at Brownsville, Pensacola. The Toronto phenomenon is NOT NEW. It has been known throughout all centuries, and has been encountered before in many forms and under many different guises. It manifests itself as a "christian" experience where the worshippers are predominantly westernised and christianised. However, no real, genuine, Bible-loving and Spirit-filled, born-again believer is deceived for long by something that mimics Jesus. As you will see... A Letter from a Reader in South Africa "Dear Friend: I write to you, as a concerned child of God and ex-member of ____ Christian Church. Since leaving this church, God has revealed the true Gospel of Jesus Christ our Saviour to me. Among other things, He has exposed the true source of the so-called "anointing" or "outpouring of the ‘holy spirit’" which is being experienced in many Charismatic churches. Although it seems to have its origins in the spiritual realm, I can assure you that is most definitely not the Spirit of the Lord (2 Cor. 11:13-15). If, at this stage you are tempted to simply shred this letter, I implore you to at least read it through, before doing so. If however, thereafter you still feel inclined to do so, then be my guest. After all, it is not for me to convince or convict you in any way. That is the work of the Spirit of God. It is however, up to you to decide what you are going to do about that conviction. You can either choose to act upon it. or you can choose to simply ignore it. In July 1995, after re-committing my life to the Lord, I experienced God's Miraculous Healing Power twice within a single week. In the first instance, God totally delivered me from a sexually immoral lifestyle and six days later He supernaturally healed me from smoking. As you could well imagine, these experiences had a dramatic influence on my life. Within a period of six days, God turned my whole life upside down. I had heard that God touched the lives of people in similar ways in ____ Christian Church. But, I must admit at the time I wasn't really convinced that these ‘‘manifestations’’ were from God. I just couldn't believe that God would heal people in such strange ways. Then, to my utter amazement, I experienced not one, but two supernatural healings in the privacy of my home. I must admit, I began to think that which was being experienced in the _____ Christian Church must be from God. I began attending the Church's services on a regular basis, but to my dismay, I didn't experience the ‘‘anointing’’ of the Holy Spirit. Furthermore, I became extremely agitated when these ‘‘manifestations of the spirit’’ were displayed during the services. Needless to say, I became somewhat concerned. When I spoke to my fellow members about this problem, I was told that is was an attack from the devil to prevent me from experiencing the presence of the Lord and that I should seriously pray about the situation. Thus began a period of serious spiritual warfare against this attack from Satan, but alas, still no manifestations. I could not understand it. Why was God withholding His Spirit from me? What was I doing wrong? I prayed and prayed to God to Fill me with His Spirit - but in vain. I continually pressed in, but nothing happened. At one stage I actually began to doubt my salvation due to the fact that I wasn't experiencing any manifestations. I became so totally obsessed with the manifestations that I found myself concentrating solely on trying to induce a manifestation whenever I prayed or worshipped. It was only then that I finally managed to successfully induce a manifestation. To my utter disgust, this so-called ‘‘anointing’’ was a far cry from the wonderful life-changing experience which I had previously experienced when God had delivered me from an immoral lifestyle and smoking. I noticed that for some strange reason praying and reading my Bible suddenly became virtually impossible. Furthermore, I became aware of the fact that I often felt tempted to fall back into sin in the areas where God had delivered me. I asked myself, "why is this happening?" I was confused. Then I blamed Satan for the fact that I was unable to effectively pray and read the Bible. As for falling back into past sins, I promptly found Scriptures with which to justify why God was supposedly allowing these things to happen, but in fact I used these merely to lull my own conscience. In the eyes of my Charismatic friend, I had made it! God was actively working in my life. I most definitely couldn't allow anyone to know that which I had experienced as the "manifest presence of the Lord" wasn't everything it was made out to be. I couldn't risk being heard speaking out against the Holy Spirit - after all according to Matthew 12:32 and Mark 3:29, 30 - this is an unforgivable sin. I certainly wasn't prepared to be guilty of that. And so, the masquerade began. I pretended to enjoy these experiences when in actual fact, every single time I allowed myself to experience the ‘‘anointing’’, something deep inside my inner being would be pleading with me to put an end to the charade. I was bewildered by this predicament that I found myself in:. .Was I the only person who felt this way?. . Were there others who had the same problems? . . or. . Was Satan yet again attempting to stop me from receiving God's blessing? Yes, that had to be it. Satan had to be responsible for these doubts, as well as for the discomfort I was experiencing. Of course, the only way I knew how to counter Satan's attacks was to engage in Spiritual Warfare. Once again I launched not a serious battle against Satan. I earnestly prayed to God to: Remove anything and everything in my life that wasn't from Him, as far away from me, as the North is from the South and the East is from the West. If it wasn't from Him, I didn't want to have anything to do with it. I thought He would take away the doubts and the discomfort. Instead, when I prayed to God in this way, the most horrific thing happened. God took this strange ‘‘spirit’’ away from me. Yet, amazingly for the first time in many months, I was able to read my Bible without having to force myself to concentrate on what I was reading. Suddenly God's Word once again became a reality to me, as it had done when I gave my life to the Lord; I could once again actually understand what I was reading. What's more, I noticed that my prayer life dramatically improved and that the temptations which hounded me before had disappeared. But, alas as far as the Charismatics are concerned, it is only when we experience what they define as the "presence" of the Lord (or the anointing or the outpouring of the ‘‘spirit’’ as they call it) in our lives that we truly grow spiritually. In fact, according to their teachings, a so-called ‘‘personal touch from God" is considered to be far more important than the Word preached from the pulpit. What was I to do? I sincerely desired to become spiritually mature. So, I yet again sought the so-called anointing and before long I found myself caught up in an action reply of the previously described scenario, but with one small difference. As I had had previous experiences, I was now able to achieve the manifestations much easier than I had the first time round, but as I did, the battles against Satan re-commenced. Surely something was wrong - But I was reassured by my friends that these incessant attacks were a sign that I was doing something right because Satan only attacks those who are making progress in God's kingdom. At first I fell for this explanation, I even thanked God for the attacks, but after a while I began to doubt whether it was true. I simply could not believe that what I was experiencing was God's will for His children. I simply had to find the answers. Thus with much difficulty at first, I endeavored to seek answers to these and other questions I had in God's Word. (The Bible). The first subject I tackled was that of the Scriptures used to justify these so-called manifestations of the Spirit. It wasn't too long before I realized how totally misquoted, twisted and misinterpreted these were. Should you doubt this fact, read the following Scriptures - in context: Acts 2:15, 16 and Eph 5:18 (being drunk in the "spirit"); Amos 3:8 (prophets - roaring like lions); 1 Pet. 1:8 (uncontrollable laughter) and Acts 9:6 (shaking in the Spirit). Don't just skim over them because you believe you know them. Read them carefully. Sincerely pray that God will reveal the content through His Holy Spirit. Should you still believe that they do justify the so-called manifestations, and that these are of God, then read the following Scriptures carefully: I Cor. 12:7-11 (Manifestations of the Spirit); Gal. 5:22-24 (Fruit of the Spirit); Romans 12:6-8 (Gifts of the Spirit). In fact, perhaps you should also study Luke 4:33 and Luke 9:42 (Demon spirits). I also had believed that what I was taught was Biblical and it took some time for my to fully comprehend the truth. The reason for this is described clearly in Isaiah 5:9 and Matthew 13:13. Christians hear these Scriptures quoted so often, they actually no longer hear their true contents. They only hear what they are taught to hear. Even when reading these Scriptures they do not see what they are reading. God has shown me that what is happening in many churches is that the truth is being traded for a Lie. The danger lies in the fact that when a lie is believed for long enough it becomes the truth to those being exposed to it. God helped me to see that what I perceived as being the Holy Spirit was actually a Deceiving Spirit. And what I perceived as being a Deceiving Spirit was in actual fact the Holy Spirit. Your friend in Christ, _________  (Pretoria, South Africa)"

        Below is an article from a man, whom we will leave unnamed, who left the Pentecostal Movement, which he refers to as the "Tongues Movement."
 

17 REASONS WHY I LEFT THE TONGUES MOVEMENT "After a service one evening a Christian brother, who is a minister in the Pentecostal Movement, approached me and asked, "Can you tell me in a sentence or two why you left the Pentecostal Movement?". . . . . . But why then did I leave?  I will endeavour first of all to list the major reasons, and then elaborate on each one. However, it will be impossible to look at each reason thoroughly in the scope of this testimony. I LEFT THE TONGUES MOVEMENT BECAUSE OF: 1.   Sincere convictions regarding their doctrines, emphases, and practices. 2.   An unsound biblical basis for their doctrine of the Holy Spirit. 3.   An over-emphasis of one gift of the Holy Spirit. 4.   An under-emphasis of other doctrines. 5.   Their "experience" orientation. 6.   The undermining of the personality of the Holy Spirit. 7.   Spiritual pride and disunity produced by their doctrine. 8.   The teaching that tongues-speaking is a sign of spirituality and even of salvation. 9.   Sign-seeking instead of faith. 10. Questionable activities practised and condoned. 11. The fear of questioning the so-called activities of the Holy Spirit. 12. The view that the Corinthian church was a model church. 13. The danger of claiming extra-biblical revelation. 14. The excesses and deceptive practices condoned in divine healing campaigns. 15. The tendency to blind, unquestioning devotion to popular leaders. 16. The possibility that the Charismatic Movement will be instrumental in producing the prophesied world ecumenical church of the last days. 17. Their distortion of the true Spirit-filled life."

       Below is a letter from a young mother, whom we will leave unnamed, regarding her experience with the demonic Talking in Tongues and Toronto Blessing experiences:
 

"I have had the shaking thing [Ed note: this is the so-called: "Shaking in the Spirit"] happen to me at the Pentecostal church I attend but I am wondering what it is.  I do not believe it is of God.  It gives me the willies. One time in fact I went to a fellowship at one of the woman who attend my church's house and two other ladies went also.  I also had my kids and these women started to make animal noises and howl right in front of my kids.  I played a long as I was just a babe myself, however I felt something really wrong in the spirit about this. As I have said before, I have turned from allot of the gifts due to this.  I have even been trying not to speak in tongues although I fight the tongues thing.  I still feel led to pray in tongues but part of me hates praying in them after what I have seen in the Pentecostal/Charismatic church."

        Below is a letter from a man who, while it appears that he still advocates talking in tongues (even though he says that he senses demons around him when he does it) he seems to be nicely coming out of the spiritually depraved practices and seems to have a pretty good handle on the other false manifestations in the churches:
 

"Exercise caution when speaking in an unknown tongue. Be certain there is an interpeter present and no more then three praying at a time in the church. God revealed this to us in ACTS for a reason. Because there is a danger in speaking in an unknown tongue [The gentleman is in error regarding the word "unknown." See Appendix #3 'unknown' tongues. (return link supplied)-- Editor WBSG]. You don't have a clue what you praying for or who you are praying to. Even if you are a christian, Satan can use this to his advantage. I came into a situation a few times when either I or someone else was praying in tongues. I senced a strong presence of Demons around me. That is why it is very important to follow the words of God which so many Charasmatic churches today do not do and they have opened the door to Satan and his dominions. Slain in the spirit is another doctrine that has been invented by demons. If you think that it is ok to do this act then you are being decieved. In the first place, there is no where in the Bible that shows a man of God laying a hand on the forehead of someone and immediatly the person falling backward in a death position. Second, Slain in the Spirit sounds sinister. Think about it for a moment. The definition of slay is to kill violently, wantonly, or in great numbers. It is not a gift nor is it of God. Some people who have been slain in the spirit have even gone into convulsive states (even though seizures are said in the Bible to sometimes be caused by demons. God certainly does not cause an illness. In conclusion, don't believe everything you hear such as holy laughter, Gold dust theory, slain in the spirit. Many of these things are witchcraft wrapped up in a neat little package invented by wolves in sheeps clothing to tickle the ears of christians. Test the spirits. Satan is out to decieve and he will if we allow him. We are living in a very dangerous time and demonic activity is at an all time high because Satan knows his time is short. we now have so called "revivals," taking place all over the world, where Charismatic Christians come to receive the "gift of holy laughter." They line up to have some celebrity evangelist touch them or blow on them, while they fall on the floor and writhe in some sort of spiritual ecstasy. Others are supernaturally pinned to the floor for hours. Many are unable to speak or stagger like a common drunk. This kind of phenomenon resembles an Occult initiation more than a revival. And it brings reproach to the name of Christ. What happened to the weeping over sin that characterized the great revivals of the past century? The Apostle Paul told the Ephesian Elders, in Acts 20, that he had not kept back anything that was profitable to them, but had shown them everything God had for the Church. There was no "holy laughter" or carnival antics going on in Paul's ministry. There were no multi-million dollar "ministries" sucking up God's money from poor widows to be used for elaborate lifestyles of celebrity tele-prophets. The condition of the Church today is every bit as nauseating to God as the Laodiceans in John's day, even moreso. If we claim to follow the Scriptures as our sole source of authority, we are required to reject all extra-biblical phenomenon that passes itself off as a "move of the Spirit." Paul taught Timothy that Scripture is sufficient for equipping the man of God to be "perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works," [2 Tim. 3:17]. We don't need something new. If its not in the Bible, its not of God. The Word of God does not tell us to expect some great last days intoxication revival, or new knowledge of secret formulas to manipulate that Almighty Vending Machine in the sky to give us more material prosperity, [1 Tim. 6:3-11]. Instead, it warns us of the rampant apostasy in the Church, and the wolves in sheep's clothing, [Matt. 7:15-20, 1 Tim. 4:1,2, 2 Tim. 4:1-4]. The Word of God tells us to be skeptical. The teachers of the "prosperity gospel" are the ushers in Satan's Church, leading Christians in droves toward the great "falling away." This may seem like a harsh statement, but I stand by it. The same kind of power experienced by the Early Church in the book of Acts is available to us today. It has always been available. And, it will be indispensable during the tribulation. If you study Church history, you will find that the power of the Spirit and the gifts diminished as the Church became more worldly. This doesn't mean the gifts were done away. The problem is we have not been willing to pay the price to walk in that power. We have not been willing to forsake all to follow Christ. We covet the power of the Early Church. But, do we also covet the persecution of the Early Church? Soon a shaking is going to occur that will flatten all we have built in this world. Only what is built on the rock will stand, [Heb. 12:25-29]. When we find ourselves stripped of our savings, our homes, our insurance policies, our government checks, and even the ability to participate in a cashless society, we will only have God to rely on. He will be there to honor all His promises that we have so often quoted, but so seldom relied on. It's time to let go of the world and all it has to offer, and embrace the cross. Paul's idea of the Christian life is much different than popular "Christianity" today."

I Jn 4:1
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.  (KJV)

Rev 2:2
2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:  (KJV)

2 Pet 2:1-3
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.  (KJV)
 

"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." (Rev 18:4)

God bless!

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As Israel of old fell, so too shall Israel of today (Christianity) fall; and by the same hand, the hand of God.  And wherefore?  For our sins and for a whoring after the unclean thing in the very Temple of God (which is now, since Christ, the Temple built without hand, I speak of the body of Christ—the Christian faithful of all stripes and denomination):

  Still need more convincing?  Here, click on the below video from another place on our Website and be spiritually sickened at what "Christians" are doing in "Christian" churches in the name of God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit!

Video: Shocking video featuring the evil-spirit manifestations of Talking in Tongues (babbling in unknown language [probably the lost Babylonian tongue] saying things unknown to the speaker [probably blasphemy!]), Slain in the spirit (temporary paralysis by wiling possession of unknown spirits), Howling in the spirit (making animal noises and crawling around in church like a four-footed beast!—yes, you will see this), Dancing in the spirit (violent uncontrollable "dancing" [convulsing while on one's feet, better stated]), Laughing in the spirit (uncontrollable and inappropriate laughing fits in church), Drunk in the spirit (euphoric staggering and cloudy-headedness, which looks and feels just like being drunk), and of course begging for money.

    And this isn't some small denomination alone doing this, in the video below you will see some very familiar and enormously popular televangelists.  Some or all of the above spiritual degeneracy which you shall witness firsthand in the video below is committed by such mainstream denominations as the Charismatic's, the Pentecostals, the Apostolics, the Evangelicals, the Catholic Apostolics, the Baptists, the AOG church (Assemblies of God), etc. (Article continued at: Who and where is the TRUE tribe of Judah today?  And, are those in the "Gifts" and "Manifestations" type "spiritual" ministries and denominations in trouble with God?)

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"Neither REPENTED they of their murders, NOR OF THEIR SORCERIES, nor of
their fornication, nor of their thefts." {Revelation 9:21}

*"SORCERIES" = "PHARMAKEIA" = PHARMACIES, DRUGS, POISONS!

Answer:

Hello.  The subject in the original Q&A was Medical Marijuana [Is Medical Marijuana wrong by Biblical standards?].  Like Medical Morphine given during childbirth and Medical Aspirin taken when one has a headache.  It seems that certain people are trying to make it look like I am justifying the use of illegal drugs, when I have bent over backwards saying that illegal drugs are prohibited to Christians because of Romans 13, 1st Peter 2, etc., where we are told to follow the laws of the land so that we do not bring shame upon Christianity (and end up in jail as well).

Romans 13:1-6
13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers [government]. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 For for this cause pay ye tribute [taxes] also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.  KJV

1 Peter 2:13-17
13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
16 As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.
17 Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.  KJV

1 Peter 3:16
16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.  KJV

Titus 3:1
3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers [government & laws], to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,  KJV

    And let me also state that any of the addictive drugs and "hard drugs" (Cocaine, Crack, Heroin, Ecstasy and "Club Drugs," etc.) are terrible to do because it will absolutely ruin your life. 

2 Peter 2:19
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.  KJV

    Nevertheless, hard drugs aside, is smoking Marijuana (which I do not personally do, nor condone—not only because I am a Police Officer—but also because I have seen what drug excesses have done to lives and families and souls) any different than drinking a glass of beer?  (Alcohol has ruined many a man and woman as well.)  I speak strictly by Biblical instructions, all laws aside; for, Marijuana is legal in many places in this world and Romans 13 therefore would not apply in that case.  So then, the question would be, what does the Bile instruct in a case such as that?  And please don't misconstrue this to in any mean that I am condoning or encouraging recreational drug use—I am not, may God be my witness.  However, I ascribe to creed of total fidelity to the Scriptures and what they teach, and I do not believe that however well meaning one might be, that any of us has the right to skew Scripture to make it say what we feel is a good message on any matter.  I'm not smart enough to outthink God.  In other words, it is never right to lie about the Scriptures—that was one of the first sins of the Catholic Church.

    You offered a Scripture, supposedly showing that it is wrong, something to be repented of.  Let's look at your offering:

    Okay, as you have noticed, we get our English word "pharmacy" from this Greek word pharmakeia (as we shall show a little further below).  Okay, so what?  Certainly you aren't implying that illegal drugs and the ones legally purchased in a pharmacy are the same thing?

    There are many ways to determine what a word means in the Bible, one of them is as you have done—a Strong's Concordance.  But that is not always effective, as we see here.  Another way to determine the meaning of the usage of a word in the Bible is to read the verse that contains this word, and to read it in context with the surrounding verses to try to pick up the subject; i.e., WHAT is being spoken of.  You can't just extract a word from out of a verse and open a Strong's and always find the correct definition.  This is partly because many of the words in the Strong's have multiple meanings.  One example would be the word adultery.  In the Bible adultery can mean having sex with another man's wife, yet in other places that same word means idolatry to false gods.  Obviously one would error greatly if he were to assign the one meaning to a Scripture wherein the Holy Spirit meant the other.  (another problem with the Strong's method is that the Strong's only lists the definition of the word in its pure form, not allowing for its variations, gender, tense, plurality, article, etc.)

    Another useful tool, and perhaps the best, in finding out what a word means in the Bible is with an Englishman's Concordance (which is a part of the computer software in the  PC Study Bible Version 4 Reference Library + , which we use here and highly recommend).  What the Englishman's Concordance is, is a list of every verse that every word in the Bible occurs.  So that with an Englishman's you can enter a Greek or Hebrew word number (the Strong's numbering) and it will show you every verse that that Greek or Hebrew word appears in, REGARDLESS of the English word that the Translators used in place of that Greek or Hebrew word.  We shall use this valuable tool shortly below with our word pharmakeia (translated to sorceries in the verse that you supplied above).

    Before we go into these advance methods of searching out a meaning of a Bible word, let's begin at the beginning, let's use common sense.  Let us do the first step that any Bible student should do when trying to understand the meaning, use, and gravity, of a word that he encounters in his Bible.  Let us take the verse that contains our word, and read it IN CONTEXT with the surrounding passages and thus have the whole Scripture before us for inspection.  Below is the verse that you supplied; but I will also include the surrounding passages so that we read a compete Scripture.  (Note on terms here:  A "verse" is a single verse, a "passage" can be either a verse, part of a verse, or even a group of verses that make up a Scripture, a Scripture is a group of verses that complete a thought.)

    Below is the scripture that contains your verse that contains the word in question.  As you read through this Scripture please tell me that you don't really think that the Scripture that you supplied was referring to smoking Marijuana?  Please read the verse in context, do you really think that is speaking of a 'Cheech and Chong'  Marijuana party?

Revelation 9:17-21
17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.
20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.  KJV

    Hopefully your answer was: "Of course not."  We see that verse 21, which contains your word (sorceries), comes hard after (no break in subject, object, or thought—so smoothly does the one verse [21] flow into the next [22] that they could have been one single verse) the verse before it which is speaking of devil worship and idolatry and rearing up of idols to worship.  In other words, this is in purely a "religious" context (a bad religious context—idolatry).  Now, before we look at the other places that this word is used in the Bible (there are only three), let's look at the Strong's Concordance Dictionary entry for the word (which was the sole method that you used, and which, if I may say, accounts for your difficulty here).

    As we see in the definition for "sorceries" the word is multi-meaning, meaning either/or "drugs" and "witchcraft, and also that the word is used both "literally or figuratively."  This of course makes it difficult for us.  And in cases like this the Strong's is not the best tool to determine what the Holy Spirit meant in this particular place.  For, there is a great difference between drugs and witchcraft.  And further, there is a great difference between being a witch (which was a capital offence in the Bible ["Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." {Ex 22:18}]) and being a modern day Pharmacist (which is a form of Doctor).  Certainly you can apprehend the difference between a licensed Pharmacist and a "poisoner."

    Morphine is good if you need to have a limb amputated, Morphine is bad if you are addicted to it recreationally.  Most of this stuff is common sense.  Often times, it seems, we overcomplicate the Bible by imagining that there is always some super-secret super-deep meaning to a word when the Holy Spirit was in reality dumbing it down for us so that a man uneducated but yet possessing some amount of God-given common sense can grasp what is trying to be relayed.  In other words, we shouldn't complicate that which God has sought to simplify.  A Strong's Concordance can indeed be very helpful in understanding a word as it is used in the Bible, but it can also overcomplicate the matter.  Dr. Strong isn't God, Dr. Strong does not have the absolute last word on what a word means in the Bible.  The Holy Spirit has built into the Sacred Text it's own dictionary.  That is why the Bible often seems redundant—saying the same thing over and over again in slightly varied terms.  This was done by the wisdom of God so that we can read the various seeming identical passages and come to fuller and complete understanding of God meant when He sad thus and thus.  it is also the reason that we have four Gospels, not just one.

    On and on we could go with tools to understand the Bible.  For instance, another most excellent tool is to compare Old Testament passages with New Testament passages which the Holy Spirit inspired the holy men to recite.  For instance, when we read the Ten Commandments we encounter, "Thou shalt not covet..." (Ex 20:17a).  What does that mean?  I mean, who knew what "covet" meant for sure?  Well, the Holy Spirit inspired Paul to give us a simple yet complete definition for the Old Testament word "covet" here in the New Testament (anything explained of the Old Testament in the New Testament is "written in stone" so to speak—it is God's own explanation of the matter, and superseded by nothing:

  Therefore, to "covet" is to lust for.  It doesn't mean "to steal," that is covered in another of the Ten Commandments "Thou shalt not steal." (Ex 20:15), but rather to desire to have by any means, an "attempt" if you will.  One can covet a possession (car, money), a human (another man's wife), a job, a fame, power, etc.  "Covet" is to earnestly want that which is not your right to have, so much so that it leads you to make an attempt to gain it.  Nevertheless, a careful read of the Ten Commandments would have shown anyone that the definition of "covet" is to desire anything that which is not yours to have.

    Yet, so many today read that Commandment and attribute it to "adultery," which it isn't.  Adultery is contained in another of the ten Commandments "Thou shalt not commit adultery." (Ex 20:14).  So then, to "covet" another man's wife is to lust after her, but to take her sexually is to commit adultery.  In other words, adultery is taking her, coveting her is to want to take her, to try to take her, to desire to take her.  Adultery is a sin of the flesh/body, Coveting is a sin of the mind/spirit.

Matthew 5:28 [Jesus speaking]
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a [married] woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.  KJV

Exodus 20:17 [God through Moses speaking]
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.  KJV

    One more thing while we are on this subject:  Jesus made a statement in the Scriptures that most Christians today misunderstand.  And here is one place where your Strong's IS very helpful.  Many read Christ's words below to mean ANY woman.

    And thereby many a man has felt sinful when he perked up and followed with his eyes a beautiful woman walking by.  That isn't lust; for, who knows, perhaps she is single, and he will, being attracted to her, court her, eventually marrying her and having children unto the Lord brought up upon the Holy Scriptures, strong in the faith.  Did that man "lust" when he admired her form upon first seeing her?  Nope.  He was doing what came naturally, he was selecting a mate that attracted him to the core of his very being.  Can this be misused?  Yes, may common sense prevail:  if that man beds down every beauty coming his way then he has sinned, for he made ugly that which God had intended beautiful and holy.  He wasn't selecting in his heart a mate, he was selecting a whore to use only sexually—whereby endeavoring to cause a daughter of God, beloved, to sin against God herself by committing whoredoms for him (uncommitted sex is whoredom for women. Why didn't I say "unmarried sex is..."?  Because, Biblically, when a woman has sex with a man—she is by that married to him.  When she goes with another, it is adultery.  Most women today have "many husbands.")  Enough on that.

    However, the word translated here to "woman" means specifically "wife," ANOTHER MAN'S wife, thus perfectly folding-in with the above mentioned Tenth Commandment.  You could say that Jesus was defining the Tenth Commandment in regards to "coveting" another man's wife—Jesus was defining "to covet" though many of us miss that in the Scripture:

    The phrase "specifically, a wife" in the above Strong's definition for gune means that when females are the subject the word means married female, but when men and women are being spoken of then this word can mean "female," regardless of marital status.  This accounts for the other places in the Bible that the word (gune) is used for females, not specifically married ones.  Like the below, for instance:

Acts 5:14
14 And believers were the more added to the Lord, multitudes both of men and women [#1135 gune].  KJV

  In other words, the word gune is always the stronger form, so that when men and women are being referred to, a gune is a female; but when a woman specifically is being referred to, a gune is a married woman.  The "difficulty" can be explained as: every wife is a woman, but not all women are wives.

    Compare the above usage of "woman" and "adultery" to the below Scripture which uses the same two Greek words, and which is well-known as the adulteress that Jesus forgave, and which made famous the saying, let him without sin cast the first stone. 

John 8:4-5
4 They say unto him, Master, this woman [#1135 gune] was taken in adultery [#3431 moicheuo], in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?  KJV

    It should be clear that it is a married woman being spoken of in both Scriptures, regardless of former President Jimmy Carter's misapplied confession (Carter stated on TV that he is an "adulterer" because he "lusted" after "women" in his heart). 

    Moving on...

    Oh, one more thing:  The other reason why I went to such lengths to document the meaning of the Tenth Commandment "though shalt no covet...thy neighbor's wife" (Ex 20:17) is because certain White Supremacists try to use the Ten Commandments to show that interracial marriage is a sin.  They will take this Tenth Commandment and call it in their mind "adultery."  then, they are presented with a problem; for, God already covered Adultery in the Seventh Commandment "though shalt  not commit adultery" (Ex 20:14).  So, to "correct this "problem" they say that the Seventh Commandment "though shalt not commit adultery" "really means" "though shalt not wed other races."  And while there are other verses in the Bible which speak against mixing with other races, this is not one of them, as, hopefully, I have ably documented here today.  And regarding interracial marriage; it was only forbade to the TRUE Israelites.  All Gentiles may do as they please.  So, if you are a true Israelite, then there were certain other races and tribes that you could not marry into or take wives from.  Another subject for another day.

    In closing: somehow we got off the topic of recreational (and illegal) drug use and onto adultery.  Oh well, topic drift.  The bottom line on Marijuana use is that it is illegal, and thus not something that a Christian can in good conscience do.  Is it a sin?  Well, only because it is against the law is it a sin.  By that model, even drinking a beer was a "sin" back during the days of prohibition because it was illegal.  What is sin?

1 John 3:4
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.  KJV

    Albeit the Scripture above was referring to the law of God as contained in the Bible, not necessarily the laws of man in the nations, which often are at odds with God's laws—in no small manner is this proven by the fact that in America you can kill your baby (abortion) and it isn't a crime, but if you park your car in a cross-walk you have violated the parking laws.  So much for man's laws.

    My advice?  Don't do that which is illegal even though it isn't a sin.

    Now, some will write in all indignant that I didn't scold you and call it a sin.  But if the Bible doesn't call it a sin, who am I to declare it a sin?  And what, pray tell, is the difference in God's eyes between smoking Marijuana and drinking wine?  Answer:  Marijuana is illegal, and wine is legal; let that be your answer.  If you feel comfortable as a Christian to wantonly be breaking the laws of the land in which you reside, then let that be your defense before God on Judgment Day.  I don't judge you.  But as a Policeman I will arrest you if I catch you with illegal drugs.  :o)

    Wine, OK; drugs, not Ok; don't we all know that?  Why do people keep writing in to me asking if they can smoke pot?  What, do they want me to tell them that it is OK with God?  I can't do that, any more than I can tell them that speeding in their car is Ok with God.  Every Christian knows what's wrong and what's right—God gave all Christians a good conscience, and when something feels wrong, guess what?  It is wrong for you.  You want to smoke Marijuana legally?  Move to Amsterdam, and it wouldn't be a sin.  But if you are here in America, and you want to be a good Christian, do not smoke it.  And if it is Medical Marijuana, then get a legal prescription and do it by the law, not as an outlaw.  That being said, is smoking Marijuana the greatest of sins?  No, it is little sin (yes, there are degrees of sin; for, to murder is much worse than to steal, though both be wrong.)  And many of us have done far worse with less remorse than to smoke pot.  The latter I write to the self-righteous hypocrites who condemn pot smokers while they have a couple abortions, many whoredoms, and perhaps even an adultery or two under their belt.

    Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
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Nick Goggin

Sir,

I just recently read your Q&A:

The non-Politically-Correct truth about race in Welfare abuse

I wanted to hear your thoughts and opinions to my specific situation along with a few of my comrades.

I am a combat soldier that recently returned from Baghdad, Iraq and I have combat-PTSD. [Post Traumatic Stress Disorder] I am currently being treated for this at a facility and I will most assuredly be receiving VA compensation along with Military compensation as "disability" pay.

In your opinion where does a combat vet who receives compensation from the VA stand in regards to the above article? Even though the subject was "Welfare" I wonder how my situation is or not related. As I wrote this I answered my own question but I would still like to know your thoughts.

Thank you and may our Heavenly Father in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord encourage, guide and bless you in completing your book and the overall ministry He has for you.

[Xxxxxx]

Operation Iraq Freedom 04-05 (Army)

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Sir,

Thank you for speedy response and the words of clarification. Thank you for your service here at home because we really need it.

God Bless you,

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Another (different) reader comments on the "Race in Welfare" Article:

Subject: minorities and welfare
I just read some of your question and answers as I do everyday or most everyday anyway, let me say this first, I have learned more on this site than I have anywhere else put together, and as I also study with a fine Pastor in Ark, I wanted you to know that I put you right up there with him, in teaching God's Word, and for that I thank you.

 

I do have a problem with how you portray minorities, by the numbers most of what you say is true, however I can debate a few points, but I won't, because in your apology to one writer (I forget the post) you did state that you did not mean all.

 

However I just read what you said about minorities and welfare, and thought I had to respond to that one.

 

Have you ever done a history on welfare, if not let me offer you a few tidbits

 

Excerpts taken from Blacks and the history of welfare

 

A. The Racist Origins of Welfare

Although much of the American public now views welfare dependency as a Black cultural trait, the welfare system systematically excluded Black people for most of its history. Besides its misguided faith in the family wage, the Progressive welfare movement was flawed by the elitism of the privileged, white activist network that led it. As a result, a defining aspect of its welfare vision was the social control of poor immigrant families and the neglect of Black women.

Immigrant women, who reformers incorrectly believed made up a disproportionate share of deserted wives and illegitimate mothers, became the primary objects of reformers' moral concern. Worried about urban immigrants' threat to the social order, the reformers treated welfare as a means of supervising and disciplining recipients as much as a means of providing charity. According to this social work perspective, the cure for single mothers' poverty lay in socializing foreign relief recipients to conform to "American" family standards. Thus, aid generally was conditioned on compliance with "suitable home" provisions and often administered by juvenile court judges who specialized in punitive and rehabilitative judgments.

Black single mothers, on the other hand, were simply excluded. The first maternalist welfare legislation was intended for white mothers only: Administrators either failed to establish programs in locations with large Black populations or distributed benefits according to standards that disqualified Black mothers. As a result, in 1931 the first national survey of mothers' pensions broken down by race found that only three percent of recipients were Black. The exclusivity of mothers' aid programs coincided with the entrenchment of formal racial segregation -- another Progressive reform intended to strengthen social order.

There is more but its long so what I ask of you is to please read this from the following link

http://academic.udayton.edu/race/04needs/welfare01c.htm

Answer:

"Black single mothers, on the other hand, were simply excluded. The first maternalist welfare legislation was intended for white mothers only: Administrators either failed to establish programs in locations with large Black populations or distributed benefits according to standards that disqualified Black mothers. As a result, in 1931 the first national survey of mothers' pensions broken down by race found that only three percent of recipients were Black."

Report reveals blacks now outnumber whites on U.S. welfare rolls - Lifestyles - Brief Article

Jet,  August 17, 1998  

Although welfare recipients are leaving the system at unprecedented rates, Whites are finding their way from welfare to work much faster than Blacks and Hispanics.

The disproportionately large numbers of Whites who have been able to leave welfare has altered the racial balance in a program long rife with racial conflict and stereotypes.

In the past, scholars have noted that there were more White families in America on welfare than there were Blacks. That is no longer the case. Blacks now outnumber Whites. Black and Hispanic welfare recipients combined now outnumber Whites 2-1, according to a New York Times report.

There are numerous explanations for the changing racial demographics which include possible discrimination by employers or landlords in neighborhoods near jobs.

Also, unpublished data from the Census Bureau, prepared for the New York Times, suggest that minority recipients were significantly more disadvantaged than Whites when the rolls peaked in 1994. On average they had less education, lower incomes and more children. 

Rep. Donald Payne (D-NJ) warned that the growing minority share of the rolls could erode support for welfare spending and reinforce racial bias in general.

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The above reader replies:

Thank you so much for your response to my Email

I would just like to say that, its not that I'm trying to deny the truth, because facts are facts, and as mush as I hate how some of us don't want to work its the truth I guess I get upset when it appears to me that you make it seem that we are the only ones, after having been studying with you for a while now I know this is not the case, but sometimes your wording of certain issues make it seem so, especially if it was my first time on your site and didn't know any better.

Again thanks for your response, and regardless of my feelings as to how you word certain issues, your site in my opinion is still the greatest, and I will continue to come and learn.

But now that I have your attention there is a question I have, that I sent awhile ago, I know you receive many so I was patiently waiting, but here is the question

You stated that you didn't think the millennium was for a second chance at being taught the true Word of God, so my question is this, what is the purpose and if its not for a time of teaching, as I agree with a fine teacher in Ark. why have it ,why not just straight to the white throne judgement after Christ returns?

Answer:

(NOTE also: WBSG received permission to use Norma's info in public)

Hello Norma.  All permission is always granted for anyone to use WBSG studies for private and Bible study group usage.  All I ask is that one doesn't change the words of the articles (except for obvious typos) and that the user cites Watchmen Bible Study Group or Nick Goggin as source, preferably with a link (biblestudysite.com). 

    I popped into your ladies Internet group website and liked what I saw.  Admittedly I do not presently have the time to read it all, but I like your premise.  I had almost thought that true Bible-based women were a thing of the past in this satan-saturated vile world. 

    Your site was like a breath of fresh air.  I wonder how the many of "today's new-thing" Feminist-minded women will take your Bible-based stand for marital and gender roles?  Sadly, the Bible is a foreign concept to most post-Sexual Revolution/post-Feminist era women today.  Would to God that there were more women who fulfilled their role as required by God and set forth in His written Word!  What a terrible and mighty victory was it for satan and his human henchmen to have women willingly delude and debase themselves into accepting and embracing the "Sexual Liberation" movement of the 1960's, thus separating them from God!  The Abortion thing of the 1970's was even a greater evil feat for satan and crew, making many vulnerable to being judged now as both whore and murderer.  Coming up in third place was the separation and flight from God and Christ of the 1980's, "the ME generation."   Followed closely by the Homosexual revolution of the 1990's.  The 2000's aren't shaping up any better, what with the ecumenism and saltlessness of the remaining and overthrown Christian churches.  And good Christian men to their own shame did nothing to stop it, but rather encouraged and participated in it, thus they also have spiritual blood on their own hands as well.  But I hasten to add: repentance to God in Jesus Christ's name brings immediate forgiveness to all faithful Christians!  But how will they know to repent if they do not know their wrongs?  For instance, many men allow (or encourage) their women to get abortions, errantly thinking they do not also bear the recompense for that sin on their own soul.  Likewise for all other sins that men encourage/seduce/cause/allow women to commit.  For, women were instructed: "But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." (1st Cor 11:3).  And, "Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." (Gen 3:16).  And regarding fathers and husbands who fall short in their duties, understand that the previous two Scriptures are a two-edged sword.  In other words, you want to be obeyed, not understanding that in that you take responsibility and consequence upon yourself for her choices that she is obedient to you in making; for:

Numbers 30
30:1 And Moses spake unto the heads of the tribes concerning the children of Israel, saying, This is the thing which the Lord hath commanded.
2 If a man vow a vow unto the Lord, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.
3 If a woman also vow a vow unto the Lord, and bind herself by a bond, being in her father's house in her youth;
4 And her father hear her vow, and her bond wherewith she hath bound her soul, and her father shall hold his peace at her: then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she hath bound her soul shall stand.
5 But if her father disallow her in the day that he heareth; not any of her vows, or of her bonds wherewith she hath bound her soul, shall stand: and the Lord shall forgive her, because her father disallowed her.
6 And if she had at all an husband, when she vowed, or uttered ought out of her lips, wherewith she bound her soul;
7 And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her in the day that he heard it: then her vows shall stand, and her bonds wherewith she bound her soul shall stand.
8 But if her husband disallowed her on the day that he heard it; then he shall make her vow which she vowed, and that which she uttered with her lips, wherewith she bound her soul, of none effect: and the Lord shall forgive her.
9 But every vow of a widow, and of her that is divorced, wherewith they have bound their souls, shall stand against her.
10 And if she vowed in her husband's house, or bound her soul by a bond with an oath;
11 And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her, and disallowed her not: then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she bound her soul shall stand.
12 But if her husband hath utterly made them void on the day he heard them; then whatsoever proceeded out of her lips concerning her vows, or concerning the bond of her soul, shall not stand: her husband hath made them void; and the Lord shall forgive her.
13 Every vow, and every binding oath to afflict the soul, her husband may establish it, or her husband may make it void.
14 But if her husband altogether hold his peace at her from day to day; then he establisheth all her vows, or all her bonds, which are upon her: he confirmeth them, because he held his peace at her in the day that he heard them.
15 But if he shall any ways make them void after that he hath heard them; then he shall bear her iniquity.
16 These are the statutes, which the Lord commanded Moses, between a man and his wife, between the father and his daughter, being yet in her youth in her father's house.  KJV

    Did you catch that: "then he shall bear her iniquity"?  In other words, all you "I wanna be the boss," and "king of my castle," and "captain of my ship" type men: You are boss, king, and captain; but you are also responsible!  What?  So you say that she is only your "lover" and that you haven't been "officially married" in a church or city hall?  Just "living with" her, are you?  Sorry charley, once you have sexual intercourse with her she is in God's eyes your wife, and you her husband.  Obviously, we have in modern days absolutely confused that Biblical precept!  We have sex with many of them, but we nary "marry" a one—so we think!  Observe in the Scriptures below that the Biblical establishment of a marriage is the act of sexual intercourse.  This is carried down in our traditions in the term "consummating the marriage," meaning, ...well, ...you know, committing the marital act. 

Genesis 24:67
67 And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife ; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.  KJV

took:  Hebrew word #3947  laqach (law-kakh'); a primitive root; to take (in the widest variety of applications):  KJV - accept, bring, buy, carry away, drawn, fetch, get, infold, many, mingle, place, receive (-ing), reserve, seize, send for, take (away, -ing, up), use, win.

became: Hebrew word #1961  hayah (haw-yaw); a primitive root [compare OT:1933]; to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary):  KJV - beacon, altogether, be (-come), accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall, follow, happen, have, last, pertain, quit (oneself-), require, use.

1 Samuel 25:40-43
40 And when the servants of David were come to Abigail to Carmel, they spake unto her, saying, David sent us unto thee to take thee to him to wife.
41 And she arose, and bowed herself on her face to the earth, and said, Behold, let thine handmaid be a servant to wash the feet of the servants of my lord.
42 And Abigail hasted, and arose, and rode upon an ass, with five damsels of hers that went after her; and she went after the messengers of David, and became his wife.
43 David also took Ahinoam of Jezreel; and they were also both of them his wives.  KJV

Ruth 4:13
13 So Boaz took Ruth, and she was his wife: and when he went in unto her, the Lord gave her conception, and she bare a son.  KJV 

    Incidentally, the tradition that we hold in our marriage ceremonies is a direct takeoff of the earlier above Numbers chapter 30 Scripture—it is a perfect symbolism of it: a woman is taken down the aisle by her father and given by him to her husband, and she then becomes his, even dropping her father's name and taking-on her husband's.  And "they" (errantly) say that America and the Western Nations weren't built upon Biblical principals!

    On another note, also bear in mind that Joseph, before Jesus was born, was not "married" to Mary in the sense that we know marriage today, she was betrothed (espoused) to him, though referred to as "his wife."

Luke 1:26-27
26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.  KJV

Matthew 1:18-25
18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together [sexually], she was found with child [pregnant] of the Holy Ghost.
19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily [because he thought that she had been unfaithful to him].
20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
25 And knew her not [no sex] till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.  KJV

  Betrothal (espousal) was a practice where the woman would be set aside for the man, and actually was a form of wife, even living in the same house sometimes, but not fully a wife because they had not yet consummated the marriage sexually.  Paul even spoke that some would keep their "wives" virgins forever:

1 Corinthians 7:34-40
34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
35 And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.
36 But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry.
37 Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well.
38 So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better.
39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord [only to another Christian].
40 But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.KJV

    In the Old Testament a betrothed woman was regarded as being married to the husband, but yet not fully, for she was still a virgin.  Kind of like our modern day "engagement" used to be.

Deuteronomy 20:7
7 And what man is there that hath betrothed a wife, and hath not taken her [sexually]? let him go and return unto his house, lest he die in the battle, and another man take her [to wife (i.e., sexually)].  KJV

betrothed: Hebrew word #781  'aras (aw-ras'); a primitive root; to engage for matrimony:  KJV - betroth, espouse.

    In the below Scripture you should be able to pickup on the subtle differences between a wife and a virgin, betrothed and married:

Deuteronomy 22:13-27

    A woman who is accused by her new husband to not being a virgin at marriage:

13 If any man take a wife, and go in unto her [sexually], and hate her [seek to be loose of her],
14 And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her [sexually], I found her not a maid [virgin]:

    But if she truly was a virgin at marriage, and her new husband lied about it:

15 Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity [the bloody wedding-bed sheet] unto the elders of the city in the gate:
16 And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her [sought to (unrighteously) leave her];
17 And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid [virgin]; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity [blood from her ruptured hymen]. And they shall spread the cloth [bearing the blood spots] before the elders of the city.
18 And the elders of that city shall take that man [who lied] and chastise him;
19 And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away [never can ever divorce her for any reason] all his days.

    But if it's true that she was not be a virgin at marriage:

20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel [if she had been sexually active before marriage]:
21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

    The punishment for adultery, death to both the man and the married woman:

22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband [adultery], then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.

    The punishment for adultery where the woman (wife) is not yet sexual with her husband (i.e., is betrothed ["engaged"] to him):

23 If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her [with her being willing];
24 Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die [notice the same punishment for adultery with wife and adultery with betrothed virgin—both are publicly executed]; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city [had it been a rape there were men nearby to help.  She didn't cry out because she was willing, thus she was not a rape victim, but an adulteress]; and the man, because he hath humbled [committed adultery with] his neighbour's wife [notice also that this betrothed virgin is called "wife"]: so thou shalt put away evil from among you [this is the good reason for God's harsh punishment; after the first public execution there wouldn't be too many men and women willing to commit adultery again!  Today, adultery is almost a sport in our society because we didn't keep God's laws.  And on another note, regarding the forgiveness of the adulteress in the Gospels by Jesus (who hadn't asked for forgiveness nor mercy), it may be answer thusly: and notwithstanding Jesus' mercy, one reason may have been because the Pharisees acted unrighteously in only bringing the woman forward for punishment; for, the penalty by God for adultery is the public execution of BOTH the adulterer (the man) and the adulteress (the woman) together at the place of social gathering (the busy city gate); but they only brought the woman for judgment.  Also, without the adulterous man (who might well have fled and made good his escape—we aren't told) there may not have been the required two witnesses for a conviction in a capital offence; i.e., "At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death." (Deut 17:6).]

    The punishment for rape is death to the offender (the victim is free from any guilt):

25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her [rape her]: then the man only that lay with her shall die:
26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter [the victim was helpless and thus innocent]:
27 For he found her in the field [i.e., out away from civilization, and thus away from any help], and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her.  KJV

    Now, since satan through his agentures (the you-know-who's), has morally and spiritually demented the women of the once-Christian Western Nations with their orchestrated and controlled "social movements" including Feminism, Hedonism, Liberalism, plurality, rebellion, murders not a few, and gross selfishness, I can only liken most (not all) women who bask in this unbiblical "new-found freedom" as:

    Of course, for a good Christian woman to be Biblically-correct, she must find a correspondingly good Christian man who is also Bible-correct.  Sadly, we men fail in that as well.  I feel sorry for a good Christian woman who wants to live her life God's way, what with the caliber of men nowadays that she has to choose from.  Not least of all disappointing is the absolute fear in Christian men to stand-up against the blatantly obvious and sinisterly effective attack upon Jesus Christ and the religion that He died to found.  In short: most Christian men are wimps.  Muslim men, albeit following a false religion and a make-believe god, die for their faith, kill for it, defend against any slur of it; while most Christian men dare not object above a whisper when Judaists and others defame, destroy, and blaspheme Christ and Christianity. 

    Am I congratulating Muslims?  No way!  It is my wish that they find Christ Jesus and thus find eternal life with the God of the Universe, the only One True God, Creator of all, The Eternal Lord God of the Bible, the great and only "I AM THAT I AM" (Ex 3:13-16).  However, there is a Biblical parallel to my above wonder at the Muslims; God also "wondered" (and rewarded) the fidelity of the Kenites (sons of Cain) to their evil forefather, no doubt lamenting that His own followers had not that same degree of loyalty to Him:

    We've both been overthrown in the wilderness, both men and women (the world is the wilderness); so that now there isn't much that's decent left in either of the genders anymore.  The "best" of us today couldn't hold a candle to those of our counterparts of a hundred years ago—even fifty years ago—dare I say thirty, twenty, ten years ago?  And people aren't getting any better; on the contrary, they are becoming more ungodly by each generation, even by every half-generation lately as we steamroll towards the final generation and the Great Tribulation.  And with what we have allowed ourselves to be seduced into becoming, will Jesus even recognize us when He returns?  What is He thinking as He looks down upon His Christians even today?  My guess is: "Jesus wept." (Jn 11:35).  Oh well, signs of the times, I suppose.  The final generation was to be a most disobedient and ungodly generation, can our present generation claim to be failing to become the fulfillment of that wicked generation?  You almost want to hope that it is the final generation, so that it doesn't get any worse, and so that we don't subject children and grandchildren to a world that is any worse than what we have become in our generation!

    Now, no doubt, some Christians will be put-off by my above unflattering report, because they "trusted in themselves that they were righteous" (Luke 18:9b).  Nevertheless, we all must stand convicted by the Word of God—you, I, we, they, us—all Christians must do a careful and painfully honest appraisal of our own walk with the Lord.  Did not God warn: "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" (Rom 3:23)?  God didn't say 'all but the Christian...', He said "ALL have sinned."  (And yes, Catholics, that includes the blessed Mother Mary, whom, to your shame, you have made a goddess.)  And again He testified of us from before in a prophecy: "They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one." (Psm 14:3).  Sure, some are better/worse than others, and there might even be a few who are almost perfect in their lives; however, at the very least, none of us can claim innocence, in that we live in and failed to mold this nation to conform it to God; in that we have elected/allowed without protest leaders and representatives who legalized Abortion, justified Homosexuality, and patented ungodliness—all in a nation that hypocritically places the words "In God We Trust" on our currency, yet throws Him out of every facet of the national life.  Christians, many of us at least, need to read the below Scripture, not with an eye to "those other people," but with an eye as to how we might be the offender in the parable—if we aren't careful to trust in God, and not in ourselves, that is.

Luke 18:9-14
9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.  KJV 

    It's better to fall at God's feet under Christ's wing a broken sinner than to remind Him of how "good" you are!  Our "best" isn't even close to being good enough to impress God.  Thankfully, He is merciful and kind and pleasant to usward.

Isaiah 64:6
6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.  KJV

    I'd like to supply a link to your little Website on our Website; would that be OK?  And a little advice, if I may: be patient, it takes a long time to become established and gather a following of readers on the Internet—there is so much out there on the information superhighway that one little Website can become lost in the sea of other choices.  Especially when you take hard Biblical stands, because most Christians today "shop around" for churches and preachers who tell them what they want to hear, not what God wants them to hear.  Such also was prophesied to come about at the endtime:

    Yes, it is that serious!  Christians who love the words of the traditions of men over the Word of God contained in His Bible are set for a great wake-up call.  God isn't playing church, He expects to be obeyed.

    And for our estranged Muslim friends, since I mentioned them above and they might find their way here via a search engine or whatnot, that they may believe upon Jesus Christ and live eternal with The Almighty Father God, I offer the below Scripture.  And then, once converted to Christianity, I shall enjoy to call them friends, not friends; for it is then only that we shall see them in Heaven.  Until they believe upon Jesus Christ I am not a friend to them if I do not warn them.  "Ecumenism" and silence for "tolerance's" sake is a most cowardly form of hate crime. The unsaved need desperately to be told the hard truth, else why would they feel the urgency to love Jesus Christ; as His Father, our God, the only One True God, has commanded?

    What must a man do to be saved?

    I would like to post your E-mail as [above], including your name and Website address; but I need your permission, as by policy I do not use people's names and private information without their stated permission.  I think that a lot of women need to get back to their Biblical roots and leave all this Feminist/Sexual Liberation "new thing" of satan alone.

    God doesn't do "new things":

Malachi 3:6
6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.  KJV

Hebrews 13:8
8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.  KJV

Ecclesiastes 1:9-11
9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.  KJV

Matthew 5:17-18
17 Think not that I [Jesus] am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.  KJV

    Peace to you in Christ Jesus.

PS:  Does the reader think that I perhaps exaggerate the planned destruction of female virtue in the Christian Western Nations?  If so, then see the following article written by a Judaic, Dr. Henry Makow (naturally he won't tell you who is ultimately behind these type of "social movements," because he too is a Judaic).  But read between the lines understanding that Dr. Makow is also being used unwittingly or otherwise (the "lesser brethren" thing) to deflect guilt from the ultimate responsible party (the International Judaics): "Slut Pride: Mainstreaming Casual Sex" by Henry Makow Ph.D.  May 19, 2005. Savethemales Website.  These are the kind of books that your 13 or 14 year old "little Missy" may be reading secretly at her girlfriend's house or in the school lunchroom, all compliments of the you-know-who's.

Excerpt: "A spate of new books exhorts women to overcome their inhibitions about having casual sex. Typical is 'Happy Hook-Up: A Single Girl's Guide to Casual Sex' which counsels women to proudly embrace the labels 'whore' and 'slut'. . . .We, as females, need to show the world that sex without commitment is absolutely our prerogative... Say, 'I'm a slut I'm a whore! I love sex!' and mean it. Society needs to change and begin to encourage women to find pleasure for pleasure's sake...."  (Continue at source:  http://www.savethemales.ca/000950.html )

And the beat goes on....
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God bless the study of His Word; in Jesus Christ's Precious and powerful name!
Nick Goggin

Hi.  Thank you!  I have included your recommendation for that women's site in the original Q&A (without your name of course).  It may help other women to check it out. 

And thank you for the kind words of encouragement.